geoffrey giuliano

Julia Baird remembers her mother ironically saying how sorry she felt for Paul having lost his mum at such a tender age. “Can you imagine how that must hurt?” she would comment to John occasionally over tea and toast. “And he’s such a lovely, talented boy. What a pity.”
—  Geoffrey Giuliano, Blackbird: The Life and Times of Paul McCartney. (1991) [Note: Giuliano is at best an disreputable source and worst… well, but as Julia Baird includes this exchange in her own memoirs and has previously criticised Philip Norman and Albert Goldman for erroneous information and fabricated quotes (respectively), I think in this case the veracity of Giuliano’s source (i.e. from interviewing Julia herself) can be vouched for.]

The happenings in Hamburg secured the relationship between John and Stuart. Even when Stuart stayed in Germany and the Beatles returned to Liverpool, John and he frequently wrote lengthy, sometimes twelve page letters to each other, letters that have disappeared. I have known in my heart for many years that Stuart and John had a sexual relationship but to protect my mother and, out of an old fashioned sense of propriety, I kept my counsel about it although everything I knew, personally and professionally, pointed towards it. And, with hindsight, it was a lovely happening: two lost boys who needed and found each other. There have been hints published in the host of Beatles books about what happened sexually between John and Stuart. I want to set out what I believe did go on. First, to take a most recent example of the stories. In Geoffrey Giuliano’s book ‘Lennon in America,’ published in 2000, he writes that during the first trip abroad, when the Beatles were still unattached, Paul, George, and Pete went for a day out boating with some local girls. John and Stuart went on a pub crawl along the Reeperbahn. They got thoroughly drunk and all their troubles poured out; what a shitty place it was and what were they, two artists, doing there? The drink brought out the dejection in them. When they returned to the stark room they shared, with its one bare light bulb, Giuliano conjures this scenario: “Stu was sitting in the top bunk, while John rolled into the bottom. After a few minutes Lennon wordlessly climbed up to join Stu. What began as mutual consolation turned quietly sexual when Stu went down on him.”

Stuart performed oral sex on John Lennon? I would have thought it was the other way around. But no, if Stuart was more parental and more grown up in John’s eyes, it may have happened that way. […] Geoffrey Giuliano says Derek Taylor, the veteran public relations man for the Beatles, told him in 1983 about this sexual encounter between John and Stuart. He says Taylor was, in turn, told it by Lennon during ‘an intense acid trip’ in 1968. Stuart would fit the pretty boy image. And given that they all lived in such close proximity in Hamburg and had this amazingly wild and decadent life, it is very possible. […]

I’ve wondered many times over the years if that’s what some of the antagonism between Stuart and Paul might have been about, whether Paul suspected something. None of us directly connected to the Beatles have publicly acknowledged that John had less than conventional sexual attachments. We all thought that to ignore such things would go down better with the world, forgetting that to deny these parts of John - and John had been open to others about himself - would be to deny another level of complexity to John’s personality.

—  Pauline Sutcliffe, “The Beatles’ Shadow: Stuart Sutcliffe & His Lonely Hearts Club”

anonymous asked:

2 things: 1) how trustworthy would you consider these pauline sutcliffe quotes to be? should we take them with a grain of salt or do you think theyre pretty accurate? and 2) would you consider paul to be somewhat of john's second choice after stuart? stuart being john's preference but then after his death john moved on to paul?

I think that Pauline’s book should be taken into consideration, but should also be taken with a grain of salt. On one hand, she knew Stuart personally, he wrote to her often while he was in Hamburg, she used letters that Stu sent to his other friends while in Hamburg for reference, Paul helped her with the book and gave her an exclusive interview, and she has already made enough money off of Anthology and Stuart’s letters and paintings to be comfortable financially. But on the other hand, she is obviously biased and tends to hype up Stu’s importance in the Beatles story, she quotes Geoffrey Giuliano, and she wasn’t there to actually witness any of the events that took place in Hamburg. So it’s hard to say! I personally would not completely discount her, though I think it’s important to read any quotes from her with a good amount of skepticism. As for your other question, I answered a very similar ask a while ago, here’s a link : )


“‘John was always generous to a fault,’ Mimi often said when repeating the story of her move to Bournemouth. 'Even as a child, if he happened to have only one small bar of chocolate but two friends with him, then right into thirds it would go without so much as a blink.’ I know how true that was. John’s generosity became legendary. He was too warm-hearted to say No. He was always thinking up ways he could help out once he had the money to do it with.”

John Lennon My Brother by Julia Baird with Geoffrey Giuliano