gamzee you look like a tool

chain-chomp  asked:

Can you elaborate some on your thoughts between karkat and rampage-gamzee? In his conversation with equius, ordering to kill gamzee, he doesn't seem very concerned at all to demand the death of his best friend. It's only after gamzee actually hurts people that he thinks the solution should be shooshpapping?

Sure!! You have to understand where Karkat is at that moment. He just watched Eridan, one of his closest friends, just murder two of his other good friends right in front of him. When Karkat makes a memo informing everyone, past Eridan responds to it, and the way Karkat talks to him, you can tell he’s feeling horribly betrayed:

CCG: YOU ARE DEAD TO ME
CCG: PAST YOU, PRESENT YOU, FUTURE YOU
CCG: AND ABOVE ALL, UGLY SCARFNECKED DOUCHEBAG HIPSTER YOU
CCG: WAIT I FORGOT, ALL OF THE YOUS ARE THAT YOU
CCG: IF I WASN’T SO TERRIFIED, I’D BE CONSUMED WITH ANGER, AND AS SOON AS I’M DONE COWERING IN A DARK CORNER HIDING FROM THAT HONKING MURDEROUS TOOL, I’M GOING TO HUNT YOU DOWN AND FILLET YOU WITH MY SICKLE.

You also have to realize that Gamzee is a hero of rage. Rage as an aspect is about negative emotion. What does negative emotion do? It warps a person’s perspective. When you’re angry, scared, upset, sad, whatever, you see the world through a microscope. Even the most minor of details may look like a huge deal.

It’s been speculated (and I think it’s very possible) that by finding Lil Cal and looking into his eyes, Gamzee’s aspect was amplified, which is what led to murderstuck in the first place. Think about it. Vriska killing Tavros, Eridan killing Feferi and Kanaya, Kanaya killing Eridan… it all happened AROUND THE SAME TIME. That’s no coincidence.

We know the Condesce sent Dave the ICP video to send to Gamzee. This was Doc Scratch’s plan. By leading Gamzee into a trap where he would look into Lil Cal’s eyes and be possessed/influenced, it made Gamzee’s aspect go into overdrive.

When Gamzee pesters Karkat, he is quite obviously trying to get Karkat to help him, but Karkat is too scared, he can’t pick up on it.

FTC: i’m in your future, best friend.
FTC: I KNOW WHERE YOU MOTHERFUCKING ARE.
FTC: and what you’ll motherfuckin do.
FTC: i’m all about to be meeting up some friends. :o)
FTC: GOING TO GET PRETTY MOTHERFUCKING FRIENDLY AT THEM REAL SOON.
FTC: i wonder if you can all be at with me in time and make me get my reconsider on?

After Karkat tells Equius to go kill Gamzee, he starts chatting with John, and he says this:

CG: GAMZEE WAS MY VERY GOOD FRIEND, WHO WAS THIS GOOFY LOVEABLE BULLSHIT CLOWN UNTIL HE WENT PSYCHO AND KILLED SOME PEOPLE. I LIKED HIM A LOT.
CG: I DON’T KNOW, I GUESS MY BEST FRIEND IS REALLY JUST THE GUY WHO I HAPPEN TO BE FEELING MOST SENTIMENTAL TO AT THE MOMENT, IS THAT A FUCKING CRIME.

Notice how Karkat says Gamzee WAS his very good friend. He knows Gamzee is still alive, because Gamzee already killed Equius. Karkat genuinely believes that the Gamzee he knew, HIS GAMZEE, the one who was that goofy lovable bullshit clown, is officially dead. Karkat believes his Gamzee no longer exists. Whatever monster has taken his place, in Karkat’s POV, is not Gamzee.

Also notice how Karkat talks to past Gamzee in the memo where he warns everyone about Gamzee going on a rampage:

PTC: HeY BeSt fRiEnD.
PTC: nOw wHaT ThE MoThEr fUcK WiLl i bE SuPpOsEd tO Do?
PTC: i’M nOt FoLlOwInG.
CCG: PAST GAMZEE, GOD DAMN IT.
CCG: I AM TRYING TO WARN PEOPLE OF YOUR MURDEROUS FUTURE SELF.
CCG: THIS PRACTICALLY DOESN’T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

While Karkat tells past Eridan he wants to fillet him, he’s weirdly nice to past Gamzee. This further points to the fact that Karkat does not think murderstuck Gamzee is Gamzee. He treats them as two separate people. Also note: “this practically doesn’t even have anything to do with you”.

The better question is, why does Karkat reconsider? Karkat goes to that fight with EVERY intention of killing Gamzee. But he doesn’t. Why?

Well I don’t know, but my inner shipper says “Karkat couldn’t bear to watch Gamzee die, even believing him a monster”. But it’s also important to note that EVERYONE in that flash was there, not to FIGHT Gamzee, but to FILL A QUADRANT WITH HIM. Terezi wanted to make Gamzee her kismesis, Kanaya wanted to auspistize Karkat and him, and Sollux was torn between being flushed and being pitch for Gamzee. None of them did that for Eridan or Vriska.

Well, it’s probably because of Karkat. There is a reason he’s obsessed with romcoms. He’s the hero of BLOOD. Ever heard this idiom: “the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb”? The aspect of blood has to do with bonds. While being around Gamzee warps people’s perspective, being around Karkat causes people to desire to create stronger ties to one another. And for trolls, that generally means filling quadrants.

And that was a really long response but gosh this is just so interesting to me (plus it’s so romantic).

here’s the first in the series of drawings of the trolls as those old childhood fears, I figured I might as well start with good ol’ shouty nubs to get myself in the groove of things. One the left is the “lights out” view of him or what he looks like to the kids he’s trying to scare and the right is “lights on”, or how he really looks.

Karkat Vantas is the monster under the bed. He’s the thing that made you feel the need to jump onto your bed from three feet away to avoid whatever might reach out. He’s why you never slept with a foot out of the covers because it just might see that as an invitation to grab you. He’s why you didn’t retrieve things that fell under the bed until daytime.

He’s also the one that would sneak behind the couch to watch the romcoms your older sister/mom turned on. You swear you could hear him sniffling back there during the sad parts. And he’s the one that would steal some of your mom’s age inappropriate trashy romance novels and then your mom would blame you no matter how many times you swore you didn’t. Then she looked under your bed and found some of them shoved in the back corner and you told her, “No mom you don’t understand, I swear I have no clue how those got there. No mom I am not having any ‘new and confusing urges’. Mom please stop talking about puberty sweet Jesus. NO MOM YOU DO NOT NEED TO BRING OUT THE CHARTS AGAIN.” But she wouldn’t hear any of it.

credit goes to daveactualstrider for the au

Karkat / SolluxKanaya / Gamzee