from civil war on new avengers is basically my favorite thing ever

Dinner and a movie

Group chat: dinner and a movie

Avengers x reader

a/n: shout out to my favorite blog, @avengerschatroom who writes the most funny chatroom fanfics ever. i got this whole idea from them, so please check them out!

Y/n the best avenger has started a group chat.

Y/n has added Thor, Steve, tony, Bucky, Natasha, Clint, Bruce, Scott, Sam, rhodey, and Peter.


Thor: Lady y/n, what is this?

Y/n: It’s group chat, so we can all reach each other if we need it.

Steve: What a great idea y/n!

Clint: more like a terrible one. Tony will probably bug the hell out of us.

Tony: rude.

Peter: mr. Stark wouldn’t do that!

Nat: oh yeah he would.

Rhodey: as his good friend I can tell you he does that a damn lot.

Tony: hell yeah I will. Sorry kid but they’re right on this one.

Scott: wow guys, thanks for inviting me to this chat!

Scott: also, Thor, huge fan of your work. The lightning thing is awesome.

Thor: thank you, human bug.

Y/n: Scott stop fanboying.

Bruce: oh let him be. He’s new. You did that too you know.

Y/n: yeah, but I wasn’t that bad.

Scott: OMG


Scott: I can’t believe it’s you! It’s actually you! You’re the hulk. Omg omg

~y/n kicked Scott out of group chat~

Y/n: I’ll let him back in once he calms down.

Steve: that might be a good idea.

Tony: what are we talking about again?

Y/n: Wanda wanted to know if you guys wanted to eat with us.

Y/n: she cooked too much and now we have food for ten.

Sam: what kind of food?

Y/n: uhh… I’ll add her and ask.

~y/n added Wanda~

Y/n: hey wanda! What food did you make?

Wanda: a Slovak feast called bryndzové halušky. I made it before, do you remember?

Sam: i think we all remember that heaven. I’ll be there if Bucky isn’t.

Steve: hey!

Sam: did I say Bucky? I meant… Yeah I meant Bucky.

Thor: I shall be there and feast opon your delicious food!

Steve: I will be there.

Natasha: count me in.

Tony: I was planning to go to a party. But this is a great excuse not to go, so I’m in.

Bruce: since I eat for ten already I think I’ll pass.

Clint: smart choice.

Peter: aww. I can’t go. Homework stuff. :(

Tony: I’ll tell the teacher you’re working with me. You’re eating with us.

Peter: but I don’t think that’s right, mr. Stark.

Tony: no buts. I’m sending a car for you now.

Peter: o-okay.

~y/n added Scott ~

Y/n: Scott you’re invited to dinner and a movie with us if you don’t freak out.

Scott: okay fine. I won’t freak. Meet you there.

Y/n: okay now that we know who is and isn’t coming, we need to pick a movie.

Rhodey: you said nothing about a movie.

Natasha: I pick the movie!

Y/n: and now you see why I didn’t mention it before.

Peter: maybe we could watch stark trek? Or Star Wars!

Thor: those movies are inaccurate, and tell lies about the Galaxy’s past!

Sam: okay so no star movies around Thor.

Bruce: no action movies.

Wanda: I thought you weren’t coming.

Bruce: not to the dinner. I’ll be at the movie though.

Steve: so basically everyone will be there.

Sam: expect for Bucky.

Steve: that’s why I said basically everyone, Sam.

Natasha: every movie I had in mind is now gone since no action movies. Anyone have a idea?

Wanda: we could watch one of my old Slovak movies.

Rhodey: no no no no no. Not again. Never.

Bruce: what about love actually?


Tony: no one under 18 sees love actually. Got it? We are not ruining innocence today.

Y/n: do you really Peter and I haven’t seen love actually? We’re not 12.

Peter: I’ve never seen it. Does it have blood or something?

Y/n: oh you cinnamon roll. You’ll learn when you’re older.

Peter: what? We’re almost the same age.

Thor: I thought we were choosing a earth film to watch? Are we not?

Natasha: okay that’s it. We’re watching friends.

Tony: That could pass.

Scott: I’ve never watched it.

Y/n: I feel betrayed on a personal level.

Clint: so then it’s a go?

Steve: I think so.

Natasha: of course it is. I’m always good at picking TV shows.

Y/n: meet at the tenth floor okay? See ya in fifteen.


Bucky: did I miss something?

Sam: what? No.

Bucky: oh, okay. Wait, then why do I hear laughing from upstairs?

Bucky: you guys didn’t invite me to the party?

Sam: well to be fair, it was either me or you. And it’s not my fault that I’m such fun.

Bucky: jerk.

Sam: bitch.

anonymous asked:

This is stupid but I seriously need help. I desperately want to get into the Marvel Comics, but I'm slightly OCD and things ~bug~ me when I don't start from the beginning. No way to do that here--too much history--and I got shamed out of my local comic store when I asked for help. There are so many arcs and reboots and I'm feeling lost and have no idea where to start things off. Any suggestions? Please? I don't want getting laughed out of the store to hold me back from enjoying this fandom. :/

Hi, anon! It’s not stupid! I am here to help you! Many people are here to help you, and we all love talking about comics! First, I think you should maybe find a different comic store if that is at all an option, because people who want to make you feel bad when all you want to do is be excited about comics are LOUSY and do not deserve your money.

Second, I actually have a guide for people in your situation! I am one of the mods of @besafesteve‘s 18+ 616 Steve/Tony Discord server (come see us, we’re nice!) and we all actually wrote up a guide for for How To Get Into Steve/Tony Comics. We also summarize a bunch of the major arcs in the guide there. But you should join us anyway because it’s an awesome server and we have weekly book clubs.

(I assume you are asking me because you want Steve and Tony recs specifically; if there is something else you want, please let me know.)

Third! I get the whole “wanting to start from the beginning” thing! I wanted to do that too. I wouldn’t necessarily recommend reading everything from the beginning, but you could certainly grab the beginning couple Epic Collections of Avengers, Cap, and IM, and see if you like it. Or subscribe to Marvel Unlimited. (My plan was to read everything in order. I have given up. I read what I need to read to write fic.) But if the early stuff turns out not to be your thing, that’s cool too. There are a lot of comics out there!

Fourth! As for specific recs, it depends on what you’re looking for. There are runs that I really enjoy (like Avengers v3) but that I don’t think are particularly newbie-friendly. (Like, the second drinking arc in Iron Man is probably my favorite Iron Man arc ever – with Director of SHIELD a close second – but I would not rec either if you hadn’t read IM and didn’t already know what was going on and/or (in the case of the drinking arc) already knew you liked comics from the 80s.) There’s Marvel Adventures, which is sweet and I love it but it’s not 616, if 616 is what you want. There are shorter arcs (One Night in Madripoor) and collections (the Iron Man/Captain America TPB) that will give you an idea of Steve and Tony’s dynamic but they’re… well, kind of short. If you do want something short and sweet to start with, I highly recommend Captain America: Man Out of Time, which is a miniseries retelling Steve’s early days in the future (when the Avengers find him) that updates it for a more modern sensibility and it has a lovely scene of Tony taking Steve to the Smithsonian and showing him the future.

What I actually started with was New Avengers v1 (available in various trades; you will want ones that say they are the Bendis run, from 2004, and the first arc is called Breakout), which I will still defend as A Good Place To Start. It’s relatively recent, so the art style and pacing are all modern and probably a little easier to follow than the early stuff. The team is small and for the most part made up of people you will know even without having read that many comics (Cap, Iron Man, Spidey, Wolverine…) and they all get along well and have an excellent team dynamic. There’s maybe 15 issues of this and then Civil War starts. And I know some people will say not to read Civil War – but, let’s face it, we owe the entire 616 Steve/Tony fandom to Civil War. And now that you’re invested, you might as well see how you like the heartbreak. You can just read the Steve and Tony highlights if you want; I can rec a very abbreviated reading order if you’re interested. 

If you want to go back and read Steve and Tony’s BFF years, you can also do that (I mean, the great thing about this pairing is that they are ALSO great friends in addition to all the times they have attempted to murder each other recently), but you should probably at least see Tony crying over Steve’s body. (I recommend Garrideb’s vid Downfall. It got me into this fandom.)

It’s all angst from there on out, basically. When I decided that I was enough into this pairing to actually go to my comic book store and buy a real comic book, it was the week that Avengers v5 #29 came out, so, uh. Yeah. Angst.

I hope that helps!

Imagine celebrating the New Year with Chris (2.0)

A/N: ‘Cause you gotta have the option of spending New Year’s with Chris alone. I know it’s a little late but have been suffering from a bit of a writer’s block so forgive me. X

You and Chris decided to spend the weekend at a cabin as far away from civilization as possible so the two of you could have a quiet, romantic New Year’s Eve instead of the usual crazy A-Lister party. Chris was excited because it’d been a while since the two of you had some proper alone time; the entire December had been hectic, recovering from Thanksgiving and preparing for Christmas. While the two of you loved spending time with everyone, the escape to the cabin couldn’t have come at a better time- especially since Chris was about to leave for the next Avengers movie. It had become a routine by now that before he left for any job, the two of you would take a few days to yourselves to rest, relax, and reassure; a movie as big as Infinity War meant your boyfriend needed a lot of the third R.

The cabin was the same one the two of you went too when you needed a timeout from work and people and paparazzi, it was nice because out there- it was always just the two of you. It was peaceful and quiet; it had the calm you and Chris craved and loved. The cabin was basically a bubble where nothing bad could ever go wrong, in fact- it was at the cabin where some of your biggest milestones with him occurred. The first time he said ‘I-love-you’ happened at that cabin; he asked you to move in with him at that cabin; and you were sure it was at that cabin where he would eventually propose, so you definitely had a special place in your heart for it.

You sat by the fire, roasting marshmallows so you could have it with your hot chocolate. Chris had opted for a beer because he said, and you quote, “it’s my last chance to drink beer, sweetheart. I’m not giving it up for anything, not even your delicious hot chocolate.” You laughed but you knew the next six months were going to be challenging for him, and you, considering he was leaving you and your shared home.

“Happy Anniversary,” Chris sang-song, holding up two bags of Chinese food from your favorite Chinese restaurant. “I thought it’d be easier to get takeout,” he explained as he settled on the floor opposite you, “God knows we’ve done enough cooking over the last month.”

“I think you nailed this year’s present,” you nodded in agreement as you reached for the box marked 'spring rolls’. “Wait-” you felt your eyes narrow when you remembered where you were. “How did you get them to deliver all the way out here? And just in time for dinner too. I mean- we’re like a three hour drive from their restaurant.”

“It’s amazing what a little name dropping can do,” Chris bit back his smile when you scoffed in disbelief. “Don’t worry, I gave them a huge tip. Like- enough to cover gas and car snacks huge,” he told you and you chuckled. “They even got a selfie and an autograph, so- I think they’re walking away from this experience happily.”

“You really shouldn’t abuse your powers as Captain America.”

“You really should appreciate the fact that your boyfriend is Captain America and has powers to abuse,” he retorted with a smug smile. “Otherwise you wouldn’t have all this amazing Chinese food to eat and you’d have to cook dinner.” You shot him a weary look then cracked when he laughed; you threw a packet of soy sauce at him and he laughed harder.

“You’re a real piece of work, you know that?”

“I know,” he smiled. “How else did I get someone as amazing as you to fall in-love with me?”

You bit back your smile as you felt the heat rise to your cheeks. After being his girlfriend for four years, he still had the ability to make you blush; the butterflies in your stomach were also very much alive. It was a good thing though, it meant that you were still very much in-love with him- as much as he was with you because you had the exact same effect on him.

Chris watched you as you ate, smiling because he couldn’t be happier. Another year was about to pass and you were still his girl; it was also the fourth anniversary of the first time you met. It was at a bar on New Year’s Eve- a bar that neither of you had wanted to go to in the first place- when he fell for- well, fell because he tripped on your feet then fell in-love because you were who you were. He was still amazed that he somehow- in his drunken state- charmed you enough to take you out to brunch the next day when you were both severely hung over. It was an amazing date despite how horrible the two of you felt and everything had been amazing since that fateful meeting.

“What?” You chuckled when you realize he was watching you with his usual love sick gaze. “Are you falling in-love with me all over again?” You teased and he nodded with a smile that made you stomach flutter. “Stop it,” you giggled and blushed.

“You know what,” he reached for your hands and pulled you to your feet as he rose to his. “I am grateful everyday that Mackie dragged me to that bar.” You stepped around the boxes of food and melted into his arms that had wrapped themselves around you. “Honestly-” he continued and you looked up at him, “I don’t know what I’d be doing now if I didn’t meet you, I can only imagine how terrible it’d be.”

“You’d probably be getting drunk and hooking up with some other pretty girl at a bar somewhere, so not that bad.” You teased and he chuckled. “As for me- well, I know exactly what I’d be doing now and how terrible it’d be. I’d be single, definitely. I’d still be working as a waitress because I wouldn’t have a boyfriend constantly pushing me to do something more with my writing. And I’d definitely be asleep before twelve 'cause no boyfriend to kiss at midnight. So you think you lucked out,” you joked and he smiled.

“Yeah, I did.” He nodded. “I’m extremely lucky no guy was smart enough to sweep you off your feet because if they did then well-” he chuckled, “you wouldn’t have been able to sweep me off mine.” You laughed when you thought back to that day; Chris Evans on his ass because he’d tripped over your feet. “I have never been so happy to fall in front of so many people before.”

“And I have never been so happy to trip someone in front of so many people before,” you chuckled. “Thank you for falling for me,” you whispered and wrapped your arms around his neck which drew a bigger smile from him. “What would I do without you?”

“I promise you that that’s a question you’ll never have to answer,” he pressed a kiss against your forehead and you smiled. “Shall we finish our food before it gets cold?” He quizzed and you nodded, pulling away from him.

You and Chris settled back down on the ground and continued to have your dinner, chatting about little things and working your way up to talk about his upcoming leave. As much as you didn’t want to, you had to eventually. There were things to discuss, like when you could go and visit, and what day a weekly Skype session could be schedule. It was a little difficult to have a confirmed date now because he still hadn’t got a feel of the set and how much of a time crunch they were in but usually, visits could occur after the first two months and the weekly Skype sessions were on Sundays.

“Can you give me a spoiler?” You asked and Chris laughed; he knew it was coming because you’d been subtly hinting for spoilers since you saw Civil War. “It can be my high before we have to get to the low. I don’t really want to discuss you being gone for six months,” you said then pouted.

“I’ll be gone for longer if I spill Marvel secrets,” he joked then glanced out the window. “The snipers are just waiting to take me out. You know the book, Nineteen-Eighty-Four by George Orwell?” He asked and you nodded. “Well, think of Marvel as Big Brother. They have Thought Police everywhere so if I even think about telling you…” He trailed off and acted like he had just been shot in the chest. “Dead.”

“You’re so dramatic,” you rolled your eyes. “Fine, let’s just talk about you leaving me next week without a high to go on.” You crossed your arms over your chest like a child, drawing laughter from Chris. “What time’s your flight?” You muttered bitterly.

“You can have a high to go on,” he said and held out your fortune cookie. “Don’t pretend like you’re not excited,” he chuckled when you stared at it indifferently. “I know you too well, Y/N Y/L/N.” You bit back your smile and took it from him.

“I like fortune cookies, yes, but I don’t think-” you cracked it open and your breath hitched in your throat when a beautiful engagement ring slid out. “Is this…Are you-” You looked up at Chris and he smiled, cracking open his fortune to pull out a tiny piece of paper.

“You should propose now,” he read and you chuckled nervously, feeling the excitement overwhelm you. “Wow, this is one assertive cookie.” He rose and propped himself up on one knee then reached over to take the ring from your hand, and your hand in his. “I better do as I’m told otherwise I’m going to start the new year on a real low.”

“Oh my God,” you breathed.

“Y/N,” he squeezed your hand gently, “you are wonderful and talented and beautiful and kind. Every second I have had with you has made my life so much better, and I thank my lucky stars every day for that night. You make me so happy and make me feel so loved, Y/N-” He chuckled shakily; nervous and excited. “And I don’t ever want to stop feeling like this. I know this is not the best time because I’m about to go away for six months but I thought we could both use the high.” He said and you nodded vigorously. “So, Y/N, will you marry me?”


Chris smiled and slipped the ring on your finger, you squealed then rose on your knees and hugged him tightly. He chuckled and hugged you back. “I love you and I can’t wait to spend the rest of my life showing you how much,” he whispered.

“I already have a pretty decent clue,” you told him and kissed him; his smile could be felt against yours. “Happy New Year, Christopher Evans.” You broke the kiss and whispered, pressing your forehead against his.

“Happy New Year, Y/N Y/L/N.”

anonymous asked:

Why is Al Ewing's Avengers so great?

Real talk, to one and all who haven’t been following him: Al Ewing is one of the three best regular writers in comics right now. It’s him, Tom King, and some third person (Steve Orlando? Mark Russel? Kieron Gillen? Jonathan Hickman or Warren Ellis if we count them as ‘regular’ in terms of monthly publication?). And his work on Avengers is basically my platonic ideal of Good Superhero Comics.

It’s not just that he’s a remarkably skilled writer who’s excelled at just about every genre he’s tried his hand at, though he is definitely one of the most chameleonic creators out there at the moment* - I think part of why he hasn’t gotten as much attention as some up-and-comers is that there’s no one specific thing he excels at, he’s just great at everything, from comedy to horror to character moments to action scenes to long-term storytelling without sacrificing the single issue to tying his themes into the function of his plot to the kind of “fuck yes” moments Grant Morrison and Garth Ennis make their bread and butter on. It’s that he’s one of the handful of writers operating on that level who clearly dearly loves traditional superheroes and believes in their ability to tell meaningful stories without reinventing the wheel. It’s straight-up adventure stories with the Plunderer and Doctor Positron and the New Revengers, but with an intellect and sincerity that elevates them above just about everything else in the market.

For one, having a writer on that level determined to tell the best classic adventure stories he can means we end up with ideas like American Kaiju - as Ewing put it, “Godzilla exists, and he is American”; as David Uzumeri put it, “what if Frank Miller was TWICE as drunk when he came up with Nuke” - executed exactly as well as you’d hope. The kind of bizarre throwaway ideas Morrison deals in to add texture to a world that he doesn’t actually explore, both because he has a larger story to deal with and they’re often a little too quirky even for him? Mighty Avengers and New Avengers are basically built on those. It also doesn’t hurt continuity nerds like me that he’s building his own slice of the Marvel Universe to build his books around over time in service of something bigger down the line, same as Hickman, or Morrison across the aisle. Especially considering said slice largely revolves around Blue Marvel, who Ewing’s turned into the single best and most potentially enduring take on “how would Superman work in the Marvel universe?” we’ve ever had.** 

But what makes his work is that it has a heart. Not in the general sense of having emotional moments and well-developed characters (though it’s got those too), but in having a sense of conviction and meaningful idea of what the idea of the hero is supposed to stand for.

Most superhero books, frankly, don’t have a particularly well-developed sense of justice or ethics beyond the need to stop people from dying, and occasionally that you shouldn’t do it by killing because that would make you bad. Ewing on the other hand is clearly someone who’s thought a lot about what superheroes mean and what they can teach and how they can go wrong, and it’s something he’s conscious of in his work. It’s not just a matter of whether his heroes can win, it’s that they’re showing that civil liberties aren’t for pansies who don’t understand what it takes to get the job done, and that you have to give a shit about your fellow man even when you desperately don’t want to because the road to becoming the bad guy is in seeing others as fundamentally lesser, and that it doesn’t take powers to help your community. They’re unapologetically leftie books (Ewing’s Secret Wars tie-in Captain Britain and the Mighty Defenders had the panel you may have seen floating around with a supervillain quoting David Cameron), and it’s in a thoroughly humane and community-minded sense of right and wrong that it rebukes the idea of superhero as fascist: they’re the ones who stand up to the fascists, who protect their neighbors and inspire them to do better, who grit their teeth and believe in their fellow man no matter how much their fellow man seems to want to flush the world down the drain. That Ewing has his characters fighting amazing stuff in fun ways is what makes his Avengers damn good books - whether as a traditional superhero team in Mighty Avengers, an international science strike-force in New Avengers, or defenders of the Omniverse against the impossible in Ultimates. But it’s that they’re just as concerned with how to be better people and see justice properly done that makes them great books.

EDIT: Since I was asked and realize it’s not exactly obvious, the reading order for his stuff goes:

Mighty Avengers Volumes 1-3 (starting with No Single Hero)

Captain America And the Mighty Avengers Volumes 1-2 (starting with Open For Business, which opens with an Axis tie-in. Ewing gets handed a ton of tie-in stuff, and while he’s great at turning that into narrative momentum, know it’s there in advance)

Ultimates/New Avengers up through the present, soon to be followed up by Ultimates ² and U.S.Avengers (also check out his Contest of Champions, which ties into the larger story he’s building up and is also really fun)

He also wrote Ultron Forever with art by Alan Davis, which has a team of cross-time Avengers uniting to battle a future Ultron in events spinning out of Hickman’s Avengers, and one of those characters appears in his New Avengers. He was also behind Loki: Agent of Asgard, which has three volumes (with Original Sin: Thor & Loki: The Tenth Realm slotted between volumes 1 and 2), which is also definitely something everyone should check out and sets up some themes that are playing out further in Ultimates.

* Try for instance Zombo and his novel I, Zombie, which take opposite tacks on my least favorite major genre and both end up absolutely phenomenal. Or his trippy, 70s-psychedelia mixed with 90s-Vertigo style Zaucer of Zilk. Or his great little Black Widow horror oneshot in Avengers 14AU. And for those who really enjoyed his Avengers, I’d especially recommend checking out his pulp novel trilogy of El Sombra, Gods of Manhattan and Pax Omega (they’re technically set in a larger steampunk universe set up by another writer, but they’re fully standalone and require no knowledge of the other series).

** Which I maintain he expanded into the premise of “how would the Justice League work in the Marvel Universe?” with Ultimates. Seriously though, while I know he’s happy to work with characters of every degree of popularity, I need - need - to see that guy write Superman at some point down the road.

Little Do You Know (Part 5- Final)

Characters: Bucky x Reader, Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanov (other characters platonic), mentions Bruce x Natasha

Background: Bucky met the reader in Romania between The Winter Soldier and Civil War. The reader deals with the aftermath of being left behind once the events are over and he goes into cryo.

Genres: angst

Words: ~1000

A/N: Surprise ending! Hopefully. A continued Author’s Note at the end due to spoilers. Also since it’s really long.

Masterlist here | Previous: Part 4

“Hey Nat, can I ask you something?” You looked over at her over your cup of coffee. She had been a little surprised at first, when you asked to spend more time with her. But it was nice to have a new face, and a civilian at that who she didn’t have to talk about missions with. Truth be told, you were still warming up to everyone, and had mainly stuck to Steve. But she had quickly grown to become one of your favorites.

“Shoot.” She nodded, warming her hands with her own cup.

“It’s kind of personal,” you winced. The redhead stared you down.

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anonymous asked:

This will require a longer answer but you don't have to reply immediately. As someone not new to MCU but completely new to Marvel Comics, which comics would you say I should definitely read and in what order? As much as I prefer being a completionist, people have said I would get burned out super fast that way. Basically I'd like to know which ones are the most essential that contain important moments (like the Avengers finding out about Iron Man's identity etc). Thank you so much in advance!

Hi, anon! I answered an ask last week that covers a lot of this ground, so there are a bunch of recommendations there (including a list we made at the 616 Steve/Tony Discord; feel free to come by and ask if you have questions, and also we run a weekly book club if you ever want to discuss comics with people). There’s also the Cap-IM Slashy Moments list; not everything in the list is 100% essential, obviously, but there are a bunch of highlights and you can browse it and see what looks good.

Having said that, issues/runs that tend to come up in 616 Steve/Tony fic a lot include:

  • Avengers v1 #4: The one where the team finds Steve. If you want a modern-day reworking of this, there’s the miniseries Captain America: Man Out of Time, which is very good.
  • Avengers v1 #16: This is the beginning of Cap’s Kooky Quartet, in which all the founders except Steve quit the team, which is now Steve, Clint, Wanda, and Pietro.
  • Nomad (Cap v1 #180-#184): Steve gets a new superhero identity and everyone’s favorite costume ever.
  • Demon in a Bottle (IM v1 #120-128): The storyline that establishes Tony as an alcoholic. But when Steve/Tony fandom wants to talk about Tony as an alcoholic, the run that usually gets referenced is Denny O’Neil’s later run, usually just called “the second drinking arc” because the run itself has no official title.
  • Avengers v1 #215-216: This is where Steve finds out who Iron Man is. Please note that not everyone finds out who Iron Man is at this time; Steve is one of the first. The Avengers find out basically one-by-one over the years and the public doesn’t find out until Iron Man v3 and also during Civil War. (Yes, it happens twice. It’s a long story.)
  • The second drinking arc (IM v1 #158-200): Tony falls off the wagon, gives Rhodey the suit, is carried out of a burning building by a very upset Steve, is broke and homeless living in a cardboard box, and nearly dies drinking himself to death in a blizzard. My fave.
  • Armor Wars (IM v1 #225-231): Steve and Tony have their first big fight. If you see fic mentioning the Guardsmen, they come from here.
  • Operation: Galactic Storm (a multi-series crossover; the only issue you really need is the post-event wrap-up in Cap v1 #401): Another fight! If you see fic mentioning the Kree Supreme Intelligence, they’re talking about this.
  • Capwolf (Cap v1 #402-408). Uh. Yes.
  • Avengers/Cap/IM v3 in general is widely liked; within v3 you may see reference to Avengers Red Zone (v3 #65-70) and IM Sentient Armor (v3 #26-30) as well as the 1998 Cap & IM Annual (Tony wipes Steve’s memories and they have another fight). v3 ends with Disassembled, in which Wanda blows up the mansion.

After that is when New Avengers v1 begins (as well as Cap v5 and Iron Man v4), and Civil War starts. There are specific tie-in issues I can rec if you just want the Steve/Tony view of the war. The beginning of New Avengers comes up in fic a fair amount; Iron Man v4 comes up a lot, because it starts with Extremis (many people like Extremis) and it’s the run that’s happening during and after Civil War, so it’s basically What Tony Is Doing While Steve’s Dead. (Answer: Being the director of SHIELD and failing miserably at coping. I also have to rec the Avengers/Invaders miniseries which takes place while Tony is director. SO MUCH ANGST.) Cap v5 doesn’t come up that much because after Steve dies in #25, it is basically Bucky’s book until Steve comes back.

Honestly at that point (Civil War) it’s hard to recommend specific things to read (other than just starting with New Avengers and going forward and hitting the events as you go, which is what I did) because – since that’s when the Steve/Tony pairing really got its start – most of the fic assumes you know generally what’s been happening in all the major events since then. Steve dies and comes back, Tony deletes his brain, later on the incursions happen and Tony mindwipes Steve, and so on and so forth. Big events of the past ten years are roughly: Civil War, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign, Siege, Fear Itself, AvX, Infinity, Axis, Secret Wars, Standoff, Civil War II, Secret Empire. 

Post-CW, the only miniseries with a real Steve & Tony focus have been Avengers Prime (taking place near the beginning of Avengers v4) and One Night in Madripoor (Captain America and Iron Man #633-635), taking place slightly later. Hickman’s Avengers run (Avengers v5 & New Avengers v3) also focuses a lot on Steve and Tony, but, uh, not necessarily in a positive way. They haven’t been on the same Avengers team since Hickman’s run.

This doesn’t even take into account the other comics continuities in which people write Steve and Tony; I would say that the biggest are Ultimates (which is its own separate universe with hundreds of comics itself, where everyone is an asshole), Marvel Adventures: Avengers (an all-ages series with about 40 issues and another 13 for MA: Iron Man), Iron Man Noir (a miniseries where Tony is an adventurer in the late 1930s), and possibly also 1872 (also a miniseries, set in the Wild West).

If you want to read pre-Civil War Steve and Tony, I highly recommend buying or borrowing the trade paperback Iron Man/Captain America (yes, that is its real name) which basically covers a lot of the highlights of their early relationship and will give you a feel for what their dynamic is like: it has some team-up issues, the issues of the second drinking arc and Armor Wars that have Steve confronting Tony, the 1998 Annual, and so on. Most of these issues are collected in other trades or available digitally, but the one thing in here that was never reprinted anywhere else (as far as I know) and cannot be read online is the Tales of Suspense one-shot from 1995, which fandom has dubbed “the azure eyes issue.” It is worth reading. If only for that one conversation.

I hope that was helpful!

the bro thing

So it’s reasonable to expect a Certain Level of Weird when it came to the Avengers’ Resident Pair of Grumpy (”And Terrible - DO NOT FORGET TERRIBLE” - Tony Stark) Old Men™. 

There’s the old school New York attitudes, the Brooklyn accents, the swearing, the old-fashioned manners (”BARNES YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CHARM AWAY MY PEPPER RIGHT FROM UNDER MY NOSE!”) and the “back in my day, barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways” stories that were delivered with the best straight faces ever. 

(”Aw, Tony, but you still have the cutest nose” went a long way towards making Ridiculous Billionaire Past Playboy Philanthropist Geniuses melt into Happy Puddles.)

This one, however, was just.  Just.  All right, it’s easier to show rather than tell:

There’s a couch in the common room that’s been unofficially set aside for the exclusive use of the Grumpy Old Men™ and in all fairness, it’s a very comfy couch.  Steve and Bucky usually take up residence there on their down time with sketchbooks, books or occasionally their weapons - Bucky adores the Big Fuck Off Sniper Rifle™ that the entire team knows by its name of Tallulah. 

Sam is the witness when the following exchange happens:


Steve looks up.  “What, bro?”

Sam’s not sure what he’s supposed to feel at seeing Bucky’s intense face.  “Tell the whole world we’re bros.”

Steve shuffles over to get even closer to Bucky, tenderly cups his cheeks and whispers, “We’re bros.”

“Why’d you whisper, bro?”

And one hasn’t lived until one has heard Steve Rogers, Captain America, deliver this sentence in almost the same earnest, sincere tone that he’s used to inspire men and women to go to war for the Righteous Cause.  “Because you’re my whole world, bro.”

“Aw, hell, NO.”  Sam loses it.  He’s rethinking all the life choices he’s made, to be around these two hopeless losers who are falling all over themselves, cackling like the evil little shits that they are. 

“But you’re our bro too, Sam!”

“Yeah, Sam!  Sam’s the GREATEST!”

“Nope. I am going to Nope my way into Nopeville.  See, this is me, doing the Nope.”

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“Vengeance has consumed you”

Now that Captain America: Civil War is out, opinions on the movie version of Helmut Zemo have focused on two points.  In general people seem impressed with him as an innovative kind of threat for the superhero movie genre.  On the other hand, I’ve seen complaints that he fails to adapt key details of the comics character.  Personally, I think they got him exactly right, because being an innovative threat is the key detail for Zemo.

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Civil War Things (If want to discuss it, shoot me a message)

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