Today marks my 2 year anniversary on hormones! I can’t believe that it has already been two years. I put together a timeline to show the changes that I’ve gone through since before I started. It makes me so happy to see how far I have come. Transitioning was the best decision I ever made!
19 January: Official Danielle/Louis break-up announcement in the Sun
20 January: Daisy likes first pic of Eleanor on Instagram; Over the next month, she liked 32 different posts and pictures; Phoebe liked 9
20 January: Eleanor posts a picture to Instagram from the UK
22 January: Eleanor likes video of Gigi posted by Tommy Hilfiger like she was still promoting the brand/show
28 January: Eleanor posts instagram story from a hotel in the UK; Had drinks with uni friends there
29 January: Louis refollows Eleanor on Instagram; Russell, his manager, followed a minute later
30 January: The Sun & Mail write articles reintroducing Eleanor
4 February: James Arthur announces on Twitter he’s friends with Louis and just “hangin out” with him; Update Accounts report Harry was at LAX on his way to London
8 February: The day of the Tommy Hilfiger show; Eleanor didn’t attend, but Max did; Louis was in the studio
9 February: Her own UAs are confused about why she didn’t go to the Tommy show, especially since Max did
12 February: James Arthur starts following an Eleanor UA on Twitter
13 February: Louis on the James Corden show; Harry is papped in London
16 February: Eleanor follows Louis on Instagram and likes his selfie; Louis likes Eleanor’s selfie posted months ago of her in the same brand/design as the shirt Louis was papped in, also on the 16th; James Corden then followed Eleanor on Twitter late that night
19 February: The Sun writes an article “1D Star Louis Tomlinson Rekindles Romance with Ex-Girlfried Eleanor Calder” saying they’d been secretly spending time in LA together and she missed the Tommy Hilfiger show specifically to spend time with Louis.
What does all of this mean?
The effort that went into reintroducing her to this fandom using the actors in the current promo narrative (James Corden, James Arthur) is profoundly contrived. His own sisters accounts set the stage HOURS after the official break-up announcement of his “relationship” with Danielle. The ink wasn’t dry on the print edition of the Sun before Elounor 2.0 had begun.
They set the stage for the James Arthur reconciliation, too. Louis included him in an Instagram post on 4 February. Then, a week later, James Arthur’s twitter account happens to follow an Eleanor update account? @God why.
Louis followed Eleanor on Instagram on 29 January. His new “manager,” Russell, who had been on promo stops with him, followed her a minute later.
Then, on 6 February, James Corden and Louis announced Louis was coming on the show on 13 February. Then on 16 February, James followed Eleanor on Instagram late at night..
Even Harry’s flight out of town his own Update Accounts all knew about was part of this puzzle, too. He left town right as the 2 week window of Eleanor’s absence from social media began. Eleanor uses Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat religiously, including documenting her travel to and from London to other parts of the world. This just happens to be the one time in the last 18 months she hasn’t done that. She was also not included in any social media posts by her own friends in LA, so if she was there, did she spend 2 weeks surgically inserted up Louis’ asshole? That’s sure what they want you to believe!
But not even her own UAs are buying it.
They’ve been building a low level reintroduction campaign on social media with his sister’s accounts. Then, they added the additional layer of Louis’ and Eleanor’s social media account. They got relevant, timely actors currently doing promo with Louis to follow her and one of her update accounts. Harry got out of town in true 2013 style, to attend business with Jeff on another continent. Eleanor went ghost on social media, another 2013-2014 tactic. They set up a series of plausible events if you look at the surface, easy to write an article about without looking wildly false. And when all else fails, they’ll lie. That’s the ball game.
And this is nothing to say of the actual images involved here beyond the strategy behind it. I’m just going to quote @conscious–ramblings here.
Imagine splitting up with your long term boyfriend after while you dated he told everyone he wouldn’t marry you, and a year later cheated on you publicly. Imagine him then publicly going out constantly with different girls, spreading it all over social media to everyone you both know. Then imagine he knocks up one of the randoms he’s been out with once and her cousin tells everyone who will listen that he was dating the girl while he dated you. Then while he ignores pregnant girl and won’t talk to anyone about it, he starts dating someone else (who looks a bit like a budget version of you mixed with a budget version of his sister). Then after new girl publicly cheats on *him* he slides back into your DMs the next week.
IMAGINE explaining to your mates you are taking him back, let alone the whole world.
So yes, it’s contrived. Yes, it’s annoying. But it’s pretty transparent, too, so don’t give them the power of reacting emotionally if you can. Mock it. Ridicule it. Call out the bullshit. Shove the facts back down their throat. That’s how we get through this.
This seems pretty good, except for the fact that the Vietnam War was over by 1975. In 1973 the US decided to pull out from Vietnam, POWs were released in January and the last combat troops left from the country in March
*Edit* if there was any year that Logan would be in Vietnam, it would be in 1968 when shit really hit the fan for American troops
So here’s a visual look at the the end of Douis/beginning of Elounor timeline. I wanted to emphasize the absurdity of Eleanor supposedly reconnecting with Louis in the days after Jay’s death juxtaposed with Danielle’s birthday picture tweet and Christmas Day in his family’s snapchat stories.
The almost violently abrupt end of Douis is really funny laid out here. They went from “happy birthday my love” and Christmas with family to Danielle moving out of the house 2 weeks later.
And in the middle of all this, Eleanor and Louis are supposedly rekindling their romance!
Note, especially, the sharp line between the 19th and 20th of January. Just a day between romantic narratives in the fandom eye. And it’s just a mere 3 weeks between his last girlfriend moving out of his house and him being spotted with Eleanor in LA.
Miraculous. Applause-worthy. That this guy, so deep in grief that he’s now supposedly having impulse and mental health issues, would decide to dump a long-term girlfriend to get with an ex-girlfriend and immediately jet off to Jamaica with her. And when I say immediately, I mean, it was just 5 weeks “BYE BYE DANIELLE” and “WHO IS ELEANOR CALDER” in the Sun.
And yet, this isn’t the first time they’ve done this. In July 2011, Hannah announced the break-up with Louis on Twitter on the 24th of July and by the 30th of July, Eleanor’s cousin was implying Louis was Facetiming her. And just 3 short weeks after that, Eleanor tried to claim she and Louis were holding hands at V Fest.
So, once again, Elounor lacks all logic and (to be honest, lacks common decency if this was a real scenario).
It’s been 6 long ass years and Louis still has to be appear rabidly heterosexual in the public eye, to the point of absurdity.
1978- Murdered Steven Mark Hicks (remains found in a crawlspace under his
home and his bones found in woodland behind Jeffrey’s home)
Jeffrey enlisted in the U.S. Army
March 1981- Formally
discharged from the Army due to his alcohol abuse
1982 – Jeffrey exposed himself to a crowd of 25 women and children at
Wisconsin State Fair Park.
August 1986 –
Arrested for masturbating in front of two 12-year-old boys
1987- The charge was changed to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to one
November 20th- Murdered Steven Tuomi in a rented room at the Ambassador Hotel (remains
1988- Murdered James Doxtator (remains never located)
Murdered Richard Guerrero (remains never located)
1989- Murdered Anthony Sears (His preserved skull and genitals found in a
filing cabinet at 924 North 25th Street)
1990- Murdered Raymond Smith *The
first victim to be murdered at Jeffrey’s North 25th Street apartment*
(Bones were around his apartment as ornaments and his sjull was painted
grey and placed in his fridge)
– Murdered Edward Smith (remains never located)
– Murdered Ernest Miller (His entire skeleton was found in the bottom drawer of
a filing cabinet)
– Murdered David Thomas (remains never located)
1991- Murdered Curtis Straughter (Skull was found in his apartment)
Murdered Errol Lindsey (Skull found in his apartment)
– Murdered Tony Hughes (Skull found in his apartment)
– Murdered Konerak Sinthasomphone (Skull located in the freezer)
Murdered Matt Turner (Head and internal organs found in the freezer and his
torso was in a 57-gallon drum)
– Murdered Jeremiah Weinberger (Torso located in the 57-gallon drum)
-Murdered Oliver Lacy (Skeleton was found in his apartment and his heart
was in the fridge)
July 19th –
Murdered Joseph Bradehoft (Head was found in the refrigerator and torso
found in the 57-gallon drum)
– Persuaded Tracy Edwards to accompany him back his apartment. Tracy escaped
his apartment and flagged down Milwaukee police. Jeffrey was then arrested.
After admitting to the murders, Jeffrey was charged with four counts of murder.
Charged with a further 11 murders.
– Charged with the murder of Steven Hicks
1992 – Jeffrey pleaded guilty but insane to 15 counts of murder at a
His trial began
– The verdict was made, on the first two counts, Dahmer was sentenced to life imprisonment
plus ten years, with the remaining 13 counts carrying a mandatory sentence of
life imprisonment plus 70 years.
May 1st –
Jeffrey was extradited to Ohio to be tried for the murder of Steven Hicks. He
was sentenced to a 16th term of life imprisonment.
July 1994- While
in prison, Jeffrey was attacked by Osvaldo Durruthy and his throat was
attempted to be slashed with a razor embedded toothbrush. Jeffrey was not
seriously hurt in this incident.
1994- Jeffrey was attacked by fellow inmate Christopher Scarver while in
the showers. He had been bludgeoned over his head and face by a metal bar.
Jeffrey was later pronounced dead at hospital.
Today marks 5 years since the very official Twitter Welcome Committee made everyone aware of who Eleanor Calder was on Twitter and what her role was going to be going forward.
So Eleanor had been on Twitter for over a month on 17 March 2012 and had tweeted herself 260 times, but that didn’t stop everyone under the sun affiliated with Louis from “welcoming” her to Twitter. This was, miraculously, the day before she flew into NYC to spend the week with Louis. Even MORE stunning: it was the same week Up All Night was released in America and the summer headlining tour was announced and tickets went on sale.
It should be noted, this all began 30 minutes before the signing in Somerdale, NJ began (read: the exact time when the Twitter and Tumblr fandoms were most active waiting for pictures/fan reports).
Eleanor begins to tweet her own update accounts and 1D Fans around 1:30 pm EST ( x )
Dan tweets Eleanor “The lady that doesn’t tweet is now on Twitter! Hiya lovely how are you? Xx” to which Eleanor replies “I am indeed! Hello! I’m very well thank you :) how are you? Receovered from your lads holiday?! Haha x"
17: Woody Darling, Jay’s best friend, then tweets Eleanor for the first time 3 minutes later ”@amassive1Dfan no @eleanorJCalder and @DaniellePeazer had their own party #nottobeseenwiththeoldies x" ( x )
17: About 45 minutes later, George, Woody’s son, tweets Eleanor for the first time “glad to see you have joined the revolution ell, hope you are ok :)” to which Eleanor replies “Georgeee! I’m fine thank you babe :) I recognise your picture, is that from new year?! Xx” ( x )
17: George replies to Eleanor “I am glad to hear it :) yes it is - it was such a good night! Hope all is well and you’re behaving yourself! Haha x” to which Eleanor replies “I’m always on my best behaviour! Hope your thumb has fixed itself! See you soon xx” ( x )
17: Eleanor begins to call out fake twitter accounts ( x )
17: Louis tweets Eleanor directly for the first time at 7:24PM “Miss you ! X” ( x ) 17: Eleanor responds to Louis’ tweet 10 minutes later “Miss you too, got your biscuits! X” ( x )
18: Louis finally follows Eleanor on Twitter ( x )
18: Em, Eleanor’s cousin and a 1D fan, tweets her for the first time “You have so many followers already, lordy Lord!xx” to which Eleanor replies “Crazy!! Xx” ( x )
18: To make sure she authenticates who Em is, Eleanor tweets her 6 minutes later “Don’t forget it’s Grandma’s birthday today toooo! Xx” ( x )
18: Danielle (Liam’s then girlfriend) tweets Eleanor like Eleanor just got a twitter account yesterday “Really happy to have @EleanorJCalder join the Twitter World! I can now tweet about our antics and tag her in it! Xx” to which Eleanor replies “Woohoooo! :) #coffeeeverywhere xx” ( x )
18: Danielle tweets “@Real_Liam_Payne has said he’s not going to follow @EleanorJCalder unless we can get #therewasacrazymoose trending….let’s gooo! Xx” ( x )
So Louis didn’t follow Eleanor UNTIL EVERYONE HE KNEW WELCOMED HER TO TWITTER.
They coordinated this effort around a fan signing event, the album release in the U.S., and the announcement of the summer tour.
They used 3 of the 9 perception management strategies:
– Employ actors and organizations that will lend authenticity to the campaign
support – Supporters of the campaign should come from multiple levels –
personal, professional, public, private, etc.
– The flow of information should be centralized at the top of a chain of
And nearly 5 years later, this is very much like how they reintroduced Eleanor to the current scenario. In both cases she was:
She was waiting in the wings to be introduced to the fans when the timing was right
She was authenticated by accounts known to be “official” by fans
She participated just enough to lend credibility to the authentication
Recap stories were written about her and Louis’ “relationship” to date to remind fans of who she was and why she was important
Their tactics this time around aren’t quite as overt as asking fans to trend something stupid to get Liam to follow her (*cringe*), but they had Louis’ sisters accounts like pictures hours after the official Danielle and Louis breakup confirmation in the Sun. They have public “friends” following Eleanor update accounts (James Arthur) and James Corden following Eleanor on Twitter.
It’s all the same pieces working in the same way to create a story that, on the surface, seems plausible, but in reality is just smoke and mirror social media activity to give the press enough to write a story.
I know this isn’t anything knew, but the date reminded me of just how coordinated both of these little campaigns were and how easily they promoted the agendas of 1DHQ both times.
(And, sadly, I don’t think they went to the same effort again to pull the rug out from under Elounor after 4-6 weeks. I think this will last several months).
The companions above are sorted by year of birth. For some there is only an approximate year given. Blizz, Broonmark, Scorpio, M1-4X are not included for lack of data. For those with a ‘!’ wookieepedia states slightly different years of birth, that do not correlate with the ages given in the Encyclopedia.
Since I don’t have any months in these calculations, the actual year of birth as well as the age of a companion during current ingame events may differ slightly.
Theron is born in 3666, the same year as Raina. I still don’t have data on Lana.
(Note: Feel free to headcanon your companions as old as you want them to be.)
According to later writer Dudo of Saint-Quentin, in this year the king of the Franks, Charles the Simple, grants land around the city of Rouen to Rollo, or Rolf, leader of the Vikings who have settled the region: the duchy of Normandy is founded. In return Rollo undertakes to protect the area and to receive baptism, taking the Christian name Robert.
Emma, sister of Duke Richard II of Normandy, marries Æthelred (‘the Unready’), king of England. Their son, the future Edward the Confessor, flees to Normandy 14 years later when England is conquered by King Cnut, and remains there for the next quarter of a century. This dynastic link is later used as one of the justifications for the Norman conquest.
A group of Norman pilgrims en route to Jerusalem are ‘invited’ to help liberate southern Italy from Byzantine (Greek) control. Norman knights have already been operating as mercenaries here since the turn of the first millennium, selling their military services to rival Lombard, Greek and Muslim rulers.
Having ruled Normandy for eight years, Duke Robert I falls ill on his return from
a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and dies at Nicaea. By prior agreement, Robert is succeeded by his illegitimate son William, the future Conqueror of England, then aged just seven or eight. A decade of violence follows as Norman nobles fight each other for control of the young duke and his duchy.
Duke William visits England. His rule in Normandy now established, and newly married to Matilda of Flanders, William crosses the Channel to speak with his second cousin, King Edward the Confessor of England. The subject of their conference is unknown, but later chroniclers assert that at this time Edward promises William the English succession.
Pope Nicholas II invests the Norman Robert Guiscard with the dukedoms of Apulia, Calabria and Sicily. The popes had opposed the ambitions of the Normans in Italy, but defeat in battle at Civitate in southern Italy in 1053 had caused them to reconsider. In 1060 Robert and his brother Roger embark on the conquest of Sicily, and Roger subsequently rules the island as its great count.
Edward the Confessor dies on 5 January, and the throne is immediately taken by his brother-in-law Harold Godwinson, the most powerful earl in England, with strong popular backing. Harold defeats his Norwegian namesake at Stamford Bridge in September. But on 14 October William’s Norman forces defeat Harold’s army at Hastings. William is crowned as England’s king on Christmas Day.
The initial years of William’s reign in England are marked by almost constant English rebellion, matched by violent Norman repression. In autumn 1069 a fresh English revolt is triggered by a Danish invasion. William responds by laying waste to the country north of the Humber, destroying crops and cattle in a campaign that becomes known as the Harrying of the North, leading to widespread famine and death.
Worried by the threat of Danish invasion, at Christmas 1085 William decides to survey his kingdom – partly to assess its wealth, and partly to settle arguments about landownership created by 20 years of conquest. The results, later redacted and compiled as Domesday Book, are probably brought to him in August 1086 at Old Sarum (near Salisbury), where all landowners swear an oath to him.
William retaliates against a French invasion of Normandy. While attacking Mantes he is taken ill or injured – possibly damaging his intestines on the pommel of his saddle – and retires to Rouen, where he dies on 9 September. Taken to Caen for burial, his body proves too fat for its stone sarcophagus, and bursts when monks try to force it in. His eldest surviving son, Robert Curthose, becomes duke of Normandy, while England passes to his second son, William Rufus.
Following a call to arms by Pope Urban II in 1095, many Normans set out towards the Holy Land on the First Crusade, determined to recover Jerusalem. Among them are Robert Curthose, who mortgages Normandy to his younger brother, William Rufus, and William the Conqueror’s notorious half-brother, Bishop Odo of Bayeux. Odo dies en route and is buried in Palermo, but Robert goes on to win victories in Palestine and is present when Jerusalem falls.
Having succeeded his father in 1087 and defeated Robert Curthose’s attempts to unseat him, the rule of William II (‘Rufus’, depicted below) seems secure. But on 2 August 1100, while hunting in the New Forest with some of his barons, William is struck by a stray arrow and killed. His body is carted to Winchester for burial, and the English throne passes to his younger brother, Henry, who is crowned in Westminster Abbey just three days later.
Roger I of Sicily dies. By the end of his long rule, Count Roger has gained control over the whole of Sicily – the central Muslim town of Enna submitted in 1087, and the last emirs in the southeast surrendered in 1091. He is briefly succeeded by his eldest son, Simon, but the new count dies in 1105 and is succeeded by his younger brother, Roger II.
On 25 November Henry I sets out across the Channel from Normandy to England. One of the vessels in his fleet, the White Ship, strikes a rock soon after its departure, with the loss of all but one of its passengers. One of the drowned is the king’s only legitimate son, William Ætheling. Henry responds by fixing the succession on his daughter, Matilda, and marrying her to Geoffrey Plantagenet, count of Anjou.
Roger II is crowned king of Sicily, having pushed for royal status in order to assert his authority over the barons of southern Italy. A disputed papal succession in 1130 has provided an opportunity and, in return for support against a papal rival, Pope Anacletus II confers the kingship on Roger in September. He is crowned in Palermo Cathedral on Christmas Day.
Henry I dies in Normandy on 1 December, reportedly after ignoring doctor’s orders and eating his favourite dish - lampreys. His body is shipped back to England for burial at the abbey he founded in Reading. Many of his barons reject the rule of his daughter, Matilda, instead backing his nephew, Stephen, who is crowned as England’s new king on 22 December.
King Stephen, the last Norman king of England, dies. His death ends the vicious civil war between him and his cousin Matilda that lasted for most of his reign. As a result of the Treaty of Wallingford, which Stephen was pressured to sign in 1153, he is succeeded by Matilda’s son Henry of Anjou, who takes the throne as Henry II.
King William II of Sicily begins the construction of the great church at Monreale (‘Mount Royal’), nine miles from his capital at Palermo. The building is a fusion of Byzantine, Latin and Muslim architectural styles, and is decorated throughout with gold mosaics, including the earliest depiction of Thomas Becket, martyred in 1170.
Norman rule on Sicily ends. Tancred of Lecce, son of Roger III, Duke of Apulia, seizes the throne on William’s death in 1189; on his death in 1194 he is succeeded by his young son, William III. Eight months later, Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI, husband of Roger II’s daughter Constance, invades Sicily and is crowned in Palermo on Christmas Day. The following day, Constance gives birth to their son, the future Frederick II.
King John loses Normandy to the French. The youngest son of Henry II, John had succeeded to England, Normandy, Anjou and Aquitaine after the death of his elder brother, Richard the Lionheart, in 1199. But in just five years he lost almost all of his continental lands to his rival King Philip Augustus of France – the end of England’s link with Normandy.
We’ve had a bit of drama in the last year at least regarding characters not showing up on cards when they had flavor text and stories about them, or Wizards not anticipating the player desire for a UR artificer legend and Kaladesh being the perfect, now missed, opportunity to make it happen.
In response, Mark Rosewater has answered a lot of asks explaining what the process for a set/product going to print actually is and just how difficult it is to answer this stuff. Basically once we see that Kaladesh is coming out or see a character in story and flavor text, the thing is out of R&D’s hands. Here’s what we know:
Design starts about two years prior to release for a large set (source)
We learn about supplemental products roughly six to nine months before the release–under the old method of telling us about products prior to announcement day at least (source)
The finalization for set names varies greatly (source)
Flavor text occurs after design is finished–characters created in flavor text can’t become a card in that set (source)
Design hands a set off to development 16 months before release (source)
If anybody wants to send in links to additional sources on any of this info or if you can think of other timeline stuff we know about regarding the release of a set, send links to me and I’ll update this post.
The basic problem we’re running into is that Wizards needs to know about what we want at least a year beforehand and that would mean they essentially got lucky and could squeeze that desire into a product at the tail end of development somehow. But we don’t know what they have planned in even vague terms until about 6 to 9 months out, way too late for anything to be done.
And even then, the year out timeline is if things just happened to align perfectly–it’s still terribly unlikely anything could be done.
How fast should technology & clothing trends advance in Legend of Genji?
Here’s a question - looking back on Avatar:the Last Airbender and Legend of Korra, it seems that technology advanced INCREDIBLY fast in both shows. (Aang’s time saw the invention of hot air balloons and blimps, Korra’s time saw the invention of airplanes and GIANT MECHANICAL FRICKIN’ ROBOTS). We also seemed to jump in time quite quickly when it comes to fashion, manufacturing, etc. (Minus the robots etc. I think this DOES reflect the rapid modernization of Asia from 1840 - 1920. Take for example the images of Seoul, Korea before and during Japanese occupation).
Originally I wanted Legend of Genji to be in a 60′s - 70′s era (I saw Korra as happening in the 1920s), but I wonder how far I can stretch it. I also think a lot of 1960s/70s clothing is ugly and I don’t want to draw it haha~ But also I was worried that it might be too similar to Korra if it has the same worldspace/technology really. I.E. I’m tempted to be VERY liberal with technological advancement. My thoughts:
1) advanced manufacturing akin to the 1970s / 80s that speeds up global trade / capitalism / global inequality
2) widespread color tv, new television shows, televised probending matches, and the start of tv pop culture except to the poorest communities (the reason Lao’s shop has a shitty black and white tv, why Genji’s family can’t afford a tv)
3) Rudimentary computers
Most companies could have these old massive computers, but I also think these kinds of 1972 computers will just start to circulate:
4) more boisterous cities, urbanization, lights light lights! (Genji’s city is old and poor, so it looks like the cities in Legend of Korra. Republic City will be more like this)
Fashion-wise, sneakers were widespread in America by 1917, and converse were around in the 60s. Sweatshirts have been popular since the 1930s, and hoodies became more popular in the 1970s. The 1960s also saw the popularization of jeans, t-shirts with brands/symbols/bands, more decorative buckles/buttons/belts/zippers, etc. But if I go with 60′s - 70s fashion… flare pants and disgusting patterns.
God it burns my eyes I can’t
I’M IN PAIN PLEASE DON’T MAKE ME DRAW THIS PLEEEEEASE I CAN’T.
I like women’s fashion in the 60′s & 70s, but I cannot subject my poor little Genji to those clothes. I’m thinking I’ll update the Legend of Korra fashions style to incorporate women’s 1960s/70s dresses and simple versions of modern fashion with Avatar touches (the “asian”-esque accoutrements)
So yeah, I’m probably going to be VERY liberal with technological advancement - fashion development.
Plz ignore the ask where I’m flailing about this impossible thing, because I cracked it down! I want to believe I did crack it down. I did a little of research about the Ninja World Wars because Kishi’s logic is utter garbage and Math simply doesn’t add up with some of the years in which he sets the Wars apart.
I took Jiraiya as my main reference point because he fought 3 wars and survived 2 ½ and interacts WITH THE MAYOR PART OF THE KEY CHARACTER INSIDE THIS STORY. All of this starts, ends and FOCUSES with Jiraiya, I keep adding Key Characters to prove some logic with the research that I did and the Math that I did.
This the order: EVENT (AGE) Character - (AGE) Succeeding Character
Fourth War Starts (“Peace” Duration and Shitty Canon Planning: 17 years) 54 Jiraiya (DIES) -30 Kakashi- 16 Naruto Chuunin Exams 50 Jiraiya - 26 Kakashi - 12 Naruto Nine Tails Attack 38 Jiraiya - 24 Minato (DIES) - 14 Kakashi - Naruto Borns Third War Is Over (Time Duration: 5 years) 37 Jiraiya - 23 Minato - 13 Kakashi Third War Starts (Peace Duration: 6 years) 32 Jiraiya - 18 Minato - 8 Kakashi (Sakumo dies) Peace Time in Between 30 Jiraiya - 16 Minato - 6 Kakashi (<- Graduates the Academy) Second War Ends (Time Duration: 8 years) 26 Jiraiya - 12 Minato - 2 Kakashi Gets Genin Team / Fight with Hanzo 24 Jiraiya - 12 Nawaki (DIES) - 10 Minato - Kakashi Borns Second War Starts (Peace Duration: 10 years) 18 Jiraiya - 6 Nawaki - 4 Minato Conflict on Piece Time 14 Jiraiya - 2 Nawaki - Minato Borns Peace Time (AKA Shenanigans Galore, Wild Little Sannin Wreck Havoc) 12 Jiraiya - Nawaki is Born First War Ends (Time Duration: 10 years) 8 Jiraiya Academy Graduation (Hiruzen Becomes Hokage) 6 Jiraiya Second Year of the First War Jiraiya is Born
In the Wikia it says that the first war lasted 10 years and the peace time was that of 20, but that is really impossible since we see Tunade interact with Hashirama (I speculate that she’s like 3-4 on the flashbacks we’re given) We have a total of 20 years marking the Period of the first War, 10 years of conflict + 10 of peace. The second one is a bit unclear of its Canon duration and it says that the build up to the Third one is 10 years.
But like the stubborn person that I am I’m gonna say Fuck Canon and Kishi’s lack of Math and Logic.
The numbers I came up with (after comparing the ages) for the Real Durations of the War and Peace times make a little sense to me. If we take that in the 2nd one Tsunade made a fucking Improvement on Squads by entering Medic-Nin, it gave Konoha the upper hand. Peace duration also makes sense because let’s be real, given that we have Danzo as our favorite Conflict Catalyst, the other Countries were really paranoid, all that was needed was a really bad excuse or something gone really wrong.
Which brings us to the beginning of the 3rd one, Sakumo is our Scapegoat and all shit brakes loose, Minato builds up a reputation, [Cannabi is a small Catalyst for the 4th one] and the 3rd one ends because The Yellow Flash is scary AF. So this one was the quickest.
4th one, we all know how it goes.
I would like to add that Minato graduates at age 10 from the Academy and he and the Ame Orphans have a 5 years of age difference, so I find it kinda Illogic that just when Jiraiya gets his Genin team he abandons it like nothing. So I headcanon that Minato takes only 1 year to pass the Chuunin exam because he’s one of the prodigies inside his generation, then Hanzo’s fight happens and Jiraiya stays with the Orphans (wich are 6) and Minato starts rotations with the Chuunin Corps at age 11.
Now that I finished, with these small calculations that I did, I can see clearly the ages of the other characters that were born on those periods, and I really hope this helps someone to have some age / event reference or smth. Thanks for reading!