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You guys are taking this too far

The new popular post is really starting to concern me. It’s stating that Joseph is abusive, that he was the only person who cheated in the relationship, and that he is manipulative. This is really sad to see for such a good and well written character in such a sweet and wholesome game.

Neither character is flawless. They were both cheating - Mary was flirting with several men, and she actually leaves the bar with one in Robert’s route. Joseph cheats on her with you after they have decided to divorce. Mary didn’t care one lick about her youngest child in one part of the game. Joseph lost track of his twins who went on to tear apart another person’s property. Neither of them were happy in their marriage, and they are both flawed characters…But that’s what makes them so great!

Now, again, I’m not saying either of them are saints. I’m just saying this whole “Mary is pure and Joseph is literally hurting her” is actually making me sick to my stomach. You’re turning a sweet game into something even more sinister than the datamined cult ending based on no factual evidence at all. The devs haven’t said ANYTHING (at the time of writing this) about Joseph’s endings or Mary.

Both characters are flawed, yes! But that’s what makes them so good! Joseph’s route is morally grey, yes, but he wasn’t intentionally manipulating you into an affair, and he wasn’t ever hurting Mary. They both love each other, it’s just…Not working out anymore. And that’s okay! That happens! It’s implied Mary lost her fifth child and sunk into a depression while Joseph struggled to keep things afloat. It’s implied that Joseph is having a mid life crisis while Mary is struggling with alcoholism. They are both struggling at the time you come in. Both of them, and neither of them are at fault for not fixing or helping the other.

It is really unfair to tell people that them dating/liking Joseph was all a ruse and that it’s a bad idea. It’s unfair to take such well written characters and force them into a box of 100% good or 100% bad. It’s okay. Joseph’s route is okay, and if you count in the way your character reacts (the “was there something I did wrong?”) and the fact that we’ve find other content in the game that appears like it actually should have happened (walking Mary home), it’s more heavily implied that there’s a glitch than “the whole point of Joseph’s route is to show you the dangers of dating a married man.” That isn’t fair in a dating sim. You are literally supposed to date him, so saying that you weren’t supposed to date him completely destroys the entire point of the game.

What I’m trying to say is just…Can we please stop with this unneeded and poorly evidenced drama over Joseph? It’s very upsetting to people like me who just want to enjoy the game and enjoy wholesome content, but keep seeing people talk about how Joseph is a terrible man who may actually be hurting his wife is…It’s too much.

Please, guys? Can we tone it back a little?

Characters can make mistakes. Characters ALWAYS make mistakes. It’s what builds them as a character, they either learn from it or repeat. What does that remind you of? Oh yeah, people. Because characters are people. There is no such thing as a wholly ‘good’ character, nor a wholly ‘bad’. The world isn’t black and white, and some people need to realise that heroes make mistakes.

If you’re ever looking for a pure and flawless character then you’re going to be looking for a long time.

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Great, Aang. Maybe instead of saving the world, you can go into the jewelry-making business.” Sokka, ep 1x14

You know, you’re pretty wise for a kid. Sokka, ep 3.x16

What Skam Does Right: an essay by me because i’ve lost all chill

so there’s an infinate number of “““teen””” shows and films that deal with “““teen””” problems that are aimed at The Youths to try and tell us how to deal with our own lives. and there’s some obvious issues that we all know and love like when it’s written by 40-somethings who think the way they experienced highschool in 1979 is how it works now and generally have no clue about modern teen culture, slang, fashion, life, everything, etc.

that said, there’s still a lot of media that manages to avoid being like that. but i still think skam takes it to another level, like yeah, by how it’s marketed and the use of social media and everything the fandom has already discussed at length, but also the way the narrative structures ignorance as a concept.

often a narrative focused on Teaching Life Lessons has a clear character representing the Bad Ideas and a clear character representing the Good Ideas. makes sense, we want these troubled teens to know right from wrong, and they’re not smart enough to understand anything thats not a totally black-and-white plot filled with two-dimensional sterotypes right?? right. so say in a typical coming out narrative we have the Highschool Bully or the Shitty Parent or Religious Zealot or someone similar, and they spurt ALL the bad ideas, all the homophobia and ignorance, and the audience knows they’re wrong because they’re framed to be Evil and their beliefs Evil and everything they do is Evil. then we have the character, often a protagonist, who is Gay and Struggling and has Never Done Anything Wrong Ever. in the end, good overcomes evil and yay teenagers learn that queers are like people or something. then switch ‘gay’ for literally any other minority, make a different Teen Movie about sexism or racism or ableism, rinse, repeat.

like there isn’t anything really wrong with this formula it’s just wildly overdone and insanely simplistic, more of a fable than a representation of how life actually works. real life is messy and grey. there is no definitive light and dark side of the force kinda bullshit….. which finally brings me to skam.

in skam, everyone has a purposfully acknowledged percentage of sheer ignorance, things they understand and things they reeeeally don’t. think about magnus being a bit of a dunce about isak’s sexuality, but then turning around to school him on bipolar (this post explains it very well). this is how real life works. nobody is the ideologically flawless character, teaching the ideologically backwards character that they are Wrong About Everything. everyone is pulling everyone up, everyone is making an idiot of themselves, everyone is learning.

i feel the dichotomous narrative often Specifically Tells the audience which are the good ideas and which are the bad based on what character says them - the issue is this lesson can’t expand outward to anything that the narrative doesn’t directly deal with. a story saying “homophobia is bad” limits itself, it doesn’t leave the door open for people to consider maybe racism or transphobia is also bad unless those issues are directly acknowledged.

with skam, over and over again, communication is highlighted as the best way to solve any issue. it gives a range of examples, yeah, but in the end it teaches HOW to deal with new issues, not simply a list of behaviours not to emulate. it’s never “don’t be That Guy”, it’s “everyone can be That Guy sometimes, it’s gonna happen, you’re gonna be ignorant about something, but here is how you overcome and deal with it…” and i just really fucking love and respect that.

i think people are forgetting that skam is a representation of real life, not tumblr dot com. no scene is going to be a perfect example of social issue discussion, and no character is “unproblematic.” that’s the whole point of this skam - realistic characters in realistic situations.

Some writers are not skilled.  Some writers are not visionary.  Some writers don’t have perfect execution or flawless characters or meaningful resolutions.

But every story has a right to be written, and told, and heard.  Even if you didn’t like it, even if it didn’t move you.  It’s okay to challenge your tastes and be contented with hearing something different.

You: This character is not morally perfect?? They hurt someone or did somethign I don’t like? HOw can you like them?

Me, an intellectual: They’re called a villain, wild concept. Or you know, characters don’t have to be morally perfect to be enjoyable (I would even dare to say flawless characters are less enjoyable). You can like a character without condoning their actions. Tumblr purity culture over characters is ridiculous. Stop it.

anonymous asked:

YOU KNOW PANDORA HEARTS OMG IM LIKE DEAD NOW, its so hard to find other ppl in this fandom, I love you even more somehow wowie <3

((YES OF COURSE!! I own all 24 volumes and I have the art book too it’s my favorite manga the art style is gorgeous Jun Mochizuki is a genius and also I? I love Gil I would do anything for him, my handsome Raven man who’s terrified of cats and would sacrifice his whole life for Oz end meeee))

i haven’t seen anyone claim michael and jer (or any of the bmc kids for that matter) were flawless and perfect except jokingly and for emphasis on how much they love them but if you legit think that then we sure as hell didn’t listen to the same musical. the boys’ flaws are a huge part of their characters and i love them so much because they’re complex. like michael is my boy but i’ve seen people claim he’s a flawless character before which astounded me because ??? he’s a stoner, he’s socially anxious and almost dependent on his best friend. i literally relate to him on every aspect and for anyone to claim he’s perfect is almost lowkey insulting since these quirks and flaws make him the character he is

The Fundamentals of Character Development: Cornerstones

Developing characters is one of my favorite parts of any story, and is perhaps the most important- if your readers like your characters enough, they’ll be more willing to watch them be dragged through some hellish plots. I know for certain that there are some characters I love so much, I’d be willing to read about them organizing their closet.

There are plenty of methods to develop characters, and the key is finding the one that works for you. However, the cornerstone/pillars method is my personal favorite. I’ll cover cornerstones here, and pillars on a later post.

Edit: Pillars is up now! (x)

Let’s do this. Details under the cut. 

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