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Did Shadowhunters 2x08 actually confirm that Magnus and Alec had sex in 2x07?

We had two scenes in 2x08 that sort of mentioned the topic. Did those scenes confirm, without any doubt, that Magnus and Alec had sex in 2x07?

1) Alec and Izzy at the Institute.

Alec said that there’s nothing to talk about when Izzy asked if he took her advice about Magnus (“if it makes you happy [having sex with Magnus], then go for it”). Therefore, if “there’s nothing to talk about”, it’s because Magnus and Alec didn’t have sex that night, isn’t it? “There’s nothing to talk about” could be Alec’s way of saying “sex didn’t happen” without giving details.

But… That’s not necessarily true, either. “There’s nothing to talk about” could mean “sex didn’t happen”, but it could also mean “sex happened but I won’t talk about it”, because well, Izzy is still Alec’s little sister, and in general Alec has always been a reserved person. Maybe Alec just didn’t want to give Izzy the details of his and Magnus’ first time together. Maybe he could even have told her more, if Izzy had had time to insist before Max arrived.

2) Magnus and Jace in Magnus’ loft.

Jace said that Magnus and Alec had “taken things to the next level”, which obviously means he thinks they had sex. And not just that: Magnus answered “he told you”, and then even looked quite shocked when he thought Jace had physically felt what happened between Alec and him that night… Both facts confirming that yes, something did happen, and “something did happen” could perfectly mean “yes we had sex”. Also, judging from Magnus’ expression, he doesn’t look happy of talking about the topic with Jace… But well, Magnus and Jace are not exactly friends yet and Jace is still Alec’s first crush, so it’s understandable. Then Jace said that he can feel how Alec is happier, meaning that’s because Magnus and Alec took an step ahead in their relationship. So, this confirms they really had sex, doesn’t it?

Well… Not necessarily. Something did happen, yes, something that meant an “step ahead” in their relationship… But, can we really be sure that that “something” was sex (and I’m talking about full penetrative sex here)? Maybe it was making out. Maybe it was dry humping. Maybe it was oral sex. All of those alternatives would mean they took an step ahead, since until that they only restricted to kisses, as far as we know. Also, maybe Magnus’ discomfort while talking with Jace meant that the night didn’t went so well at the beginning, considering that Alec wanted to have sex and Magnus had to explain why he didn’t feel ready yet. Finally, Alec maybe indeed feel happier, but having sex with Magnus could be the only reason? Alec would be happier if him and Magnus share a new level of intimacy now, physical or phycological (possibility of a long conversation about insecurities here), but not necessarily full penetrative sex.

EXTRA: Magnus and Alec in Magnus’ loft.

This scene doesn’t mention what happened between Magnus and Alec in 2x07, but it’s the first scene  together after the fade-to-black scene. When Magnus seemed reluctant to host Max’s Rune Ceremony’s party because of Maryse, Alec explained how the said party will also be a confirmation of the permanence of Magnus’ and Alec’s relationship. It gave me the impression that Alec’s words were not only directed to Maryse, but specially to Magnus. I mean, don’t you think that Alec’s reassurance of permanence in 2x08 is a direct answer to Magnus being afraid of losing him if they had sex in 2x07?

But then again, that could mean that: a) they had sex and now Alec is trying to prove to Magnus that he’s not leaving him after that, just as he told him before (“you have nothing to worry about”); or, b) they didn’t had sex and Alec is trying to prove to Magnus that he’s really committed in their relationship, so Magnus doesn’t need to be afraid of losing him even if they have sex.

So, my conclusion? Shadowhunters 2x08 didn’t actually confirm that Magnus and Alec had sex (full penetrative sex) in 2x07.

The problem: it didn’t deny it, either.

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So I’m rereading the Emerald Witch arc after that reveal. Besides the delusions from when Ciel was ill, there is also one panel in Chapter 103 where after Vincent the family tree clearly splits into two branches

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Helena Bonham Carter and Tim Burton’s children in their father’s films ‘Alice in Wonderland’ (2010), ‘Dark Shadows’ (2012) and ‘Big Eyes’ (2014)

shhh…it’s okay…it’s okay…you’re safe.

something inspired by papercutting art i’ve done in the past irl. the “glitter” was fun to draw, i might make a tutorial on how to make one of these. :Bc

Okay but lets be real Gaara definitely has this really cute really sappy picture on his desk of young Shikadai sitting on his lap smiling up at him. 

I think for Gaara Shikadai is really important because he’s his only family member who has never seen him when he was a monster. He’s his only family member who has never once been afraid of him, who has never once felt anything less than love for him. And that’s SO BIG for Gaara.