film: ice age

I’ve always wanted...

-An adult version of the baby from the first Ice Age movie to reunite with the rest of the herd.

-“A Bugs Life II,” with Dot growing up and learning the duties of a princess in Atta’s place.

-The Iron Giant II: He sacrificed himself at the end of the movie and his parts went ALL over the place…but he DIDN’T die.  I always expected a movie where his parts finally came back together and he reunited with Hogarth.

-The chipmunks singing “Boys and Girls of Rock and Roll” in one of their live action movies

-For Jack to be reunited with an older version of the baby he took care of in the first series (Samurai Jack)

-A modern crossover between the newer Sesame Street characters and the newer Muppet characters, just like the specials in the old days

-There to be consistency in the fact that in the first Monster’s Inc. movie, Mike told Sully, “You’ve been jealous of my looks since 3rd grade,” rather for them to make a completely new plot where the first time they met was in college.

-Consistency with the X-Men movies in general

-A live action movie of the Teen Titans

-A live action movie of Codename Kids Next Door


….And so much more.

….but a girl can dream.

  • Me as a Grandma: I remember when Ice Age was about three prehistoric mammals and a baby, not a mammoth, the mammoth's wife, the mammoth's wife's adopted possum brothers, the mammoth's daughter, the mammoth's daughter's husband, a sabertooth, the sabertooth's wife, a sloth, the sloth's wife, the sloth's grandma, and the sloth's grandma's husband.
  • Me as a Grandma: Life was so much simpler, then.

phantasmorgasmic  asked:

Hi there! I was planning for the animal life in my fantasy story to consist of mythological creatures (region dependent) but also giant animals like those from the Ice Age (I was inspired by the Irish Elk skeleton I saw a picture of once). How "plausible" would it be for animals of that size to live around humans, when the general era of inspiration for human societies is around 900-1200CE? Are there important ecological things I should consider, such as food sources and whatnot?

Oooohhhhhh, I love this! I’m personally a huge fan of Pleistocene megafauna, and some of them are definitely going to be roaming around in one of my fantasy stories. After seeing their fossils in natural history museums, it’s hard to avoid being inspired and intrigued by them.

So, getting to the actual question: First, a reminder that humans and Pleistocene megafauna overlapped. In fact, there is still scientific debate about whether climate change or human hunters led to their demise. So having humans and megafauna together is actually entirely possible. The more crucial issue is whether humans in a highly-organized society/civilization would exist alongside the megafauna.

In order to obtain the population density necessary for forming cities and such, people have relied on agriculture. So they would need crops that are capable of growing in the same sort of climate as that conducive to megafauna.

So, what was different during the Pleistocene when megafauna roamed the continents? First off, climate. Atmospheric carbon dioxide was lower, and climate was generally cooler and drier. Large parts of North America and Eurasia were covered by thousands of feet of ice, sea level was lower, and mountain glaciers were also more extensive.

All of these differences in climate meant that Eurasia and North America had large expanses of steppe and grassland. These grasslands supported large herds of animals, which in turn supported many large carnivores. In some ways, parts of Europe and the North America resembled today’s African savannas. (There are actually proposals to bring African mammals to other locations for rewilding projects). As for food sources… The grazing animals will lots of grass, and the carnivores will need lots of prey. What your humans eat is up to you.

Personally, I wouldn’t see too much problem with having humans and megafauna overlapping. (Some of the megafauna are really cool and strange. Just imagine what Australia looked like–it’s pretty fun.) In my mind, one of the biggest barriers is making sure that humans have the resources necessary to build large, sedentary societies. They’ll need building material (wood is scarce in grasslands), and they’ll need crops that can tolerate cool and dry conditions.

Obviously there is a large amount of climate variability during the last ice age, based on location. The U.S. southwest, which is desert today, had large lakes at that point in time–so not everywhere was cold and dry. But thinking of steppe ecosystems is a good place to start.

One good glimpse of a Pleistocene ecosystem is Rancho La Brea, which preserves many megafauna (especially carnivores) but also environmental indicators like plant material. Using the term “Pleistocene megafauna” in online searches should also help bring up results.

One last place to look: Paleoartists! (Like this one)

I don’t think the situation is terribly implausible, as long as you consider the environments that your chosen megafauna live in, and remember what a human society will need in order to survive. So look up some megafauna, figure out your location and ecosystem, and have fun!

Best of luck, and come back if you have any more questions!
-Mod Terra