Final Fantasy XV, aka ‘Please, Hajime Tabata, Stop It.’
I just spent the last few hours of 2016 finishing FFXV.
Do I have feelings? You bet. A LOT OF FEELINGS.
Fantasy XV. Development hell resident. The forever-morphing former member of
the Fabula Nova Crystallis collection. Formerly known as Versus XIII. We’ve
been through a lot. You gave us all you could, but we all know that you could
have given us so much more.
You had it in you.
(This is going to be a long one. A LOT of spoilers inside. EDIT: now with MUSIC portion!)
Final Fantasy XV Gods and Messengers theory based from the Ultimania and the Genesis artwork and why it still connects to the FNC.
I believe that Gentiana is a messenger of Shiva, as well as Luna. I believe that Ardyn is linked to Ifrit. Noctis and Nyx to Bahamut. As for the ones fallen from Grace I believe are Leviathan, Ramah, and Titan, and Ifrit. Why do I say this. Ifrit (the betrayer) is Shiva’s enemy, Luna and Gentiana are servants of Shiva, so being led by Ifrit it would make sense why Ardyn (a messenger of Ifrit) would kill off the messengers of Shiva.
We saw from the Cosmogony book Bahamut handing out the crystal to the king of Lucis.
We also saw him on the far left of the Genesis photo holding in his arm who I believe is Leviathan.
So now why do I believe Titan, Ramuh, Leviathan has fallen from grace? Because we see throughout the game they choose what side to serve only to those who they deem are worthy. Noctis defeats them, we get their power, okay, why is that, i believe since they play a neutral role in the fight they are the fallen. Luna has to ASK Leviathan for its power, Noctis has to Ask for Titan’s power, with him then having to prove himself worthy of it. Although he doesn’t fight Ramuh he does have to pass his trial to stop a thunderstorm.
Although I believe there are messengers, I don’t believe Titan, Leviathan, and Ramuh (being neutral) would have their own messengers, so that would only leave Bahamut, Shiva, and Ifrit.
-Shiva - Luna, Gentiana, Pryna,
-Bahamut - Nyx, Noctis, Prompto, Ignis, Gladio, Umbra, Cor, and Noctus Ancesters (The Wise, The Conquerer, The Tall, The Mystic, The Wanderer, The Clever, The Rogue, The Fierce, The Pious, The Just, The Father)
-Ifrit - Ardyn, The Merilith, Ultros
(My guess of the 24 Messengers mentioned in the Ultimania)
Why Cor, Ignis, Prompto, The Past Kings and Gladio? Look at the Genesis photo
Bahamut and Leviathan (left side)
Titan, Shiva, Ramuh (right side)
Nyx stabbing Ultros (bottom left)
Cor stabbing The Merilith (bottom right)
Noctis, Ignis, Prompto, Gladio (the 4 at top).
Noctus Ancestors (the past kings)
Etro (the goddess)
Why connect Etro? The Genesis photo is still apart of XV and thus the FNC
“The Goddess pitied also those subjected to that fate of Focus, crueler still than death. To them She sent Her messengers, to deliver hope when all was lost.” -Yeul
I interpret it as Bahamut and the Gods are her creations. The Gods also known as “Astrals” Could also be called “Eidolons”. In Final Fantasy XIII Etro transformed Fang into Ragnarok, and in XV we see the Gods in a humanoid form, so why couldn’t the same be done to them. it is also said that “Eidolons attack the l'Cie whose presences they grace”. And again, Noctis had to pass a trial and BATTLE them in order to gain their power. “Those who emerge triumphant receive a crystal (mark) called ‘eidolith’ (Mark of the Hydraean) which they may use to summon the beast (Leviathan) to fight at their side”. Rules set by Etro. Which would explain why you defeat an Astral/Eidolon and it can still be called upon, and also debunk the idea that you “kill” them. The Analects of FFXIII on the goddess Etro suggest that “Eidolons are created by her and are her messengers”. Which would proves that they’re Etro’s creations. Now again, why must Noctis fight them? And when he do he’s able to summon them? The rules established in Valhalla dictate that they “must obey those stronger than themselves”, which AGAIN, is why Noctis defeats them, he is able to summon them (they obey). Am I saying that Noctis is a L'cie? Yeah, in a way.
The Genesis photo still ties XV to the FNC and thus a larger story still apart of that lore. Even if words are changed around, same rules apply, same ties connect. Etro’s messengers are the Gods/Astrals/Eidolons. Those Gods have messengers which are the 24.
Noctis and Luna are chosen to stop the Plague of the Stars. We saw at the end of the game (the dark world) that it’s overrun by daemons. Remember Etro’s original task was to maintain the balance of the universe, and a plague of the stars would be a threat to that. If the world was completely took over by daemons and humans were to be constantly dying, it would be similar of Dr. Arecia and Gala’s (servants of Pulse and Lindzei) attempts to open Etro’s gate; by a flood of human souls. And also once again similar to the plot of Lindzei to sacrifice every human on Cocoon.
Final Fantasy XV is still Etro maintaining the balance of the universe, by a series of Gods and Messengers. XV is still tied to the FNC and I believe in terms of timelines, takes places before Final Fantasy XIII: Lightning Returns, in between or during the events of Final Fantasy XIII-2.
In early XV concepts (VersusXIII) Noctis’s family are Etro worshippers, and on top of all she’s still shown in the Genesis artwork. Which would means she’s still the goddess of that world and thus connecting XV to the FNC.
So I was getting really excited for the release of Final Fantasy XV the other day and I noticed that it seems to have a lot of similarities with Final Fantasy X/X-2, especially when it comes to the characters. I mean just look at their group photos!
Yuna and Noctis, their respective leaders, are quite similar. Both operate with an array of weapons (Noctis has swords, Yuna had her summons in FFX and her dresspheres in FFX-2) both are pressured with the responsibilities of their world/kingdom and both are important figures in their respective regions. Yuna is the Highsummoner of Spira and Noctis is the Prince of Lucis.
Rikku resembles Prompto. First of all, both are blonde (not exactly a real reason but I couldn’t exactly leave it out.) Both are the playful, cheeky and childish character of the bunch. Also, Rikku is an Al Bhed and in FFX, they were considered ‘heathens’ for not following the Yevon religion and breaking laws. Prompto is a foreign fugitive, so in a way, that’s another similarity.
Both are undyingly loyal to their respective leaders and have deep connections with them. Prompto is the childhood friend of Noctis and Rikku is the cousin and guardian of Yuna.
Paine is similar to Gladiolus. Both have that dark look about them and that 'I-don’t-take-crap-from-anyone’ attitude and they wield massive broadswords. Gladiolus may be a bit more cheerful than Paine (even though his looks don’t suggest so) but Paine has shown her happy/carefree side more than once deeper into the game.
Gladiolus and Paine never hesitate to protect their leaders when the need arises.
Also, Paine and Rikku’s relationship kind of mirrors Gladiolus and Prompto’s, they both seem to be really comfortable around one another and are always up to some kind of antics.
Don’t think I’ve forgotten about Ignis. He’s cool, level-headed and advises Noctis on what actions to take a lot of the time. Lulu is the same to Yuna. Throughout her pilgrimage, she gave Yuna advice and made sure she was safe and happy.
Although Lulu isn’t a member of the Gullwings and is left out of missions a lot of the time, Ignis seems kind of put out in a few of the photos, like this one:
Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. From what I’ve tasted of desire I hold with those who favor fire. But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate To say that for destruction ice Is also great And would suffice.