exhibit a: me trying with failure

after 27437 years I finally got my hands on cu alter’s translated interlude (courtesy of @princemarxfucker) and it was absolutely worth the wait because its saying loads of things ive been saying since forever except now here in HD quality explicit text and none of you are going to believe I didn’t straight up write it myself because frankly I’m not entirely sure I didn’t actually write this myself

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO LET’S DIG RIGHT INTO THE JUICY BITS SHALL WE (THE JUICY BITS ARE EVERY SINGLE BIT)

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anonymous asked:

Iknow u talked abotu Hidan being more BPD, if u had to choose, psychopath or sociopath? (I think i already kno the answer!:) )

I don’t like to go on about it because to me it’s one of the most boring topics in the world.

It’s so easy to characterize fictional characters with a mental disorder or boil them down to a psychopath or sociopath because that’s just how human brains work. Look for familiar patterns in our own world to compare and contrast with the other world.

But to me, saying a character is a sociopath or a psychopath is so easy.

But I understand the idea behind trying to diagnose a mental condition to a fictional character and the same reason why people give specific sexuality to their favorite character. 

It’s to understand their thought process or to portray themselves onto their favorite. To understand them and get to know their mindset. 

It’s a fascinating topic to be sure, but one that I usually do to often. (I lie my blog is nothing but this)

but sociopath and psychopath are such broad definitions, it could be why I don’t like using those words or that topic because they can mean a wide range of people.

Not everyone who is a sociopath shows all the symptoms and not everyone who is a psychopath shows all the symptoms. And their are high-functioning sociopaths and psychopaths in our society. 

But I’ll try for you my dear annon.

I’ll just copy/paste some things from @evartandadam​‘s blog and take advantage of our friendship. (Well cus… she told me I could anyways)

According to an article here are the differences between the two

I actually recommend reading her rant she did on Sasori years ago about Sociopath vs Psychopath

Note, her analysis is far more in depth and researched in far more detail. I’m just probably reciting a wiki-pedia text book definition of the symptoms. So I’ll do my best here. 

Hidan seems to fall into a few key traits of both:

  • A disregard for laws and social mores
  • A disregard for the rights of others
  • A failure to feel remorse or guilt
  • A tendency to display violent behavior

Well it seems that those that posess those key traits seem to lie in Hidan, lets see what it says more:

Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard, disorganized and spontaneous rather than planned.

Well. Gee.

While Hidan exhibits some traits of a Sociopath I don’t think he could be one. Because his rituals are very long, meticulous and planned out. Even here, when Yugito Nii is left half-dead, there is a specific manner in which he does so. His ritual is a four step program. Lick blood, curse mode, Jashinst Symbol, Stab and repeat. Hidan does have a disdain for the shinobi system and society and is prone to fits of rage but he is never careless in his murders. Even though he killed Asuma, it was a fair battlefield. True, Hidan is brutal in his rituals and combat but he never attacks anyone unprovoked.

 If Hidan wants to fight someone or sacrifice someone he is very obvious about it. He will provoke his opponent into attacking him so he can easily get their blood when their momentum stops. This is his strategy and it works great. 

But I think this isn’t enough. I had to look at the “Positive” symptoms of Sociopaths. Positive, does not mean that these benefit the person. They just mean that they are traits that are not active in other mental disorders.

  • Superficial charm and good intelligence.
  • Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking.
  • Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations.
  • Unreliability.
  • Untruthfulness and insincerity.
  • Lack of remorse and shame.
  • Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior.
  • Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience.

,,,,,,Yeah just reading off of this it is not Hidan. I will go through them. Quickly for some, longer for others.

“Superficial charm and good intelligence.“

Hidan is amazingly charming. This one is check, yes. 

  • Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking.

This one is a No/Yes. While Hidan says he has his own goals in mind, he is in a cult afterall. Wether Jashin or not is real. (Assuming she is real because Hidan is immortal afterall.) So if his disillusion are real or not, no one knows. His perception is his reality, he worships Jashin.

  • Unreliability.
  • FUCK NO. Hidan is RELIABLE if not anything else. HE LEFT A JINCHURKI HALF-DEAD WHICH SPECIFICALLY GOES AGAINST THE COMMANDMENTS OF HIS RELIGION TO FOLLOW AKATSUKI’S ORDERS.
  • Untruthfulness and insincerity.
  • No. Hidan is honest and open. He can be manipulative, but I don’t think he uses people. 
  • Lack of remorse and shame.

*LEAVES THIS HERE* I will never get over his look when he sees Kakuzu’s mask die. He expresses empathy for him or his partner. Either because Kakuzu is closer to death, or because he takes pity on these creatures. 

  • Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior.

“Kakuzu, Do something!” “You’re trying to split up me and Kakuzu huh?”  “Just sit back and watch Kakuzu” “No way, I want in on the action too! Let’s just stick with the usual” 

  • Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience.

……………… AHEM

WELL GEEE SOUNDS LIKE HIDAN DIDN’T LEARN ANYTHING AT ALL DURING HIS PAST EXPERIENCE. *derpface*

While Hidan exhibits some qualities of a Sociopath he hardly displays enough positive symptoms to be called one.

Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature.

=__________=

As I said before, Hidan has a strong empathy trait and has a strong connection to Kakuzu. He also disobeys his religion to follow Akatsuki’s orders. That is huge. It shows he cares about them in his own Hidan way and I think I talked about that not to long ago.

I will caption a conversation I had with @evartandadam awhile ago to close off this topic.

Eva: i realized sociopathy is a spectrum. So Hidan could have a small amount of anti-social personality disorder. I feel that he can still feel empathy though, to a degree like, sasori is totally a sociopath/psychopath. Hidan isn’t anything like him and hidan does have a moral compass and a sense of god, even though it’s screwed up. I researched that sociopaths rarely believe in a higher power, since they don’t believe anything is higher that themselves. 

Dana: Hidan has major empathy man. It’s kind of his whole shtick. He gets majorly upset when he isn’t treated with fairness or kindness. Even empathy towards things that don’t affect him at all. Like he lectures Kakuzu for destroying a temple that isn’t part of his religion and for killing a monk. Not HIS religion or a JASHINIST monk. Just from respect out of someone else following another faith.

Eva: Exactly borderline personality disorder suits him a lot better. Manipulation, emotional outbursts and attention.