empire strikes back spoilers

How Reylo Can Happen

I’ve had a theory for months but haven’t wanted to post it because I wasn’t sure about it until after TLJ teaser and panel. I will try to keep my explanations short and to the point.

For Reylo to happen, there will need to be extensive character development and storyline between Kylo Ren and Rey. Those familiar with Reylo meta’s and theory have speculated Force Bonds (hearing/seeing each other’s thoughts) and Kylo saving Rey to gain her favor. Well, what if I said that both were possible? But not without a little thing called Halfway Plot Switch and something called Conflict Killer. What are those and what do they mean? Well, let’s go back to the Director himself, Rian Johnson. When asked what movies he watched to prepare for TLJ he mentioned a movie called Letters Never Sent (LNS). Immediately our eyes were drawn to the romantic storyline of this movie but that’s not important as far as Reylo is concerned. What is important is the structure of this film and the tropes within it. Trust me Rian isn’t concerned with the storyline. He is concerned only about how it was executed. 

I won’t go into the details of the storyline of LNS because that isn’t the point. What is the point, is that LNS starts out to be one movie about these geologist setting out to find diamonds, but it turns into something completely different when they are trapped fighting for their lives after a forest fire.

At the TLJ panel Riann and Daisy both state that it’s amazing how this movie starts out and how it actually ends. Daisy threw us a bone and stated (I am paraphrasing) that Rey is meeting her hero but sometimes you shouldn’t because they may not be what you’ve expected.

So, what does all this mean? What the hell am I babbling about? I’m going to warn you now do not read any further if you don’t want to be spoiled. Although yes, I am speculating it might hold more water than you think. Read on at your own risk.

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Ren and the First Order pt. 1 (The Last Jedi spoilers)

There’s been good amount of information on props, costumes, and sets related to the First Order and Kylo Ren, so here’s a compilation of what we’ve learned so far:

Kylo Ren gets something of a makeover in The Last Jedi. His mask is said to be nearly the same as it was in VII, with some minor tweaks, but the rest of his outfit is different. The new costume has been compared to Luke’s black outfit from Return of the Jedi…

…but Ren wears what sources called a “Darth Vader cape” over the outfit. It’s allegedly very similar to the cape his grandfather wore in episodes V and VI, but without the chain clasp.

Lumberjack Nick’s sketch based on descriptions of Kylo Ren.

While it’s most likely that this is just inspired by Darth’s costume design, there is some possibility that it’s the same cape. Recent Star Wars books, notably Bloodline, have focused on collectors who have rounded up old relics from the days of the Empire. We could go so far as to guess that Kylo got his hands on Vader’s real cape and is wearing it to ‘honor’ his grandfather.

Even Ren’s ship gets an upgrade in The Last Jedi, the personal fighter described as a ‘First Order TIE Advanced.’ They built a life-sized model of the ship at Pinewood studios, meaning we’ll probably be seeing it docked somewhere in the film. This information also implies that Kylo Ren will be piloting the ship himself, which we haven’t seen before. He may even be in some space battles given that he’s flying a TIE Advanced.

(This may also be the same ship from the scene description on Ahch-To, where the Knights of Ren kneel around a crashed ship.)

There will also be some changes to the First Order’s army, as well as some new additions to its ranks. Thankfully, The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson posted a photo of the updated Stormtrooper look on his Instagram:

We’ll also be getting the First Order version of the Imperial Guards and Imperial Gunners in Episode VIII.

And finally, we’ll close with an exciting quote from a Making Star Wars source:

“You are going to love Captain Phasma’s spear in The Last Jedi. She looks killer.”

Post-Scarif Headcanon [warning : SPOILERS FOR ROGUE ONE]

 - After the Battle of Yavin, after all the euphoria has died down and they’re dismantling the base to move to their next location, Wedge has a sit-down with Luke and what remains of the Rebel Alliance starfighter pilots.

- They’ve lost so many – Dreis, Dutch, Biggs, Porkins…Wedge stops himself from naming them all because the survivor’s guilt from having to pull out of that trench run will never stop haunting him, he suspects.

- “We need to reform the squadrons, re-organize the remaining pilots and the new recruits into units again.”

- And he remembers, remembers the ones who gave their lives for that one-in-a-million chance to destroy the Death Star. The ones who gave them just the barest glimmer of hope that they could save other worlds from the fates of Jedha, of Alderaan.

- Wedge remembers the pilot, the Imperial defector, the wide-eyed man with a nervous voice who nevertheless had eyes blazing like newly-molten steel when he stood before the council with Erso’s daughter and plead their case.

- An Imperial defector, just like him. No, not really. Wedge had been sprung from Skystrike Academy by a Rebel cell who had heard his desire to defect. This man, this cargo pilot, had acted alone–alone, frightened, facing untold dangers, arriving at Yavin bruised yet unbroken.

- He’d heard the last transmissions from Scarif, recognized the man’s voice for its urgency and its determination.

- He’d heard Admiral Raddus’ last words, “Rogue One…May the Force be with you.”

- It took everything inside Wedge to command his astromech to enter the hyperspace calculations when he knew what they were leaving behind.

- So now, days later, in a conference room in Yavin 4, surrounded by the other pilots, Wedge turns to Luke and says, “I think I know what we should name this new squadron.”


So in the Original Trilogy they made most of the fans think that those two characters will end up as a couple, but then it was revealed that they are actually related.
Wouldn’t it be funny, if in the Sequels Trilogy they made most of the fans think that those two characters are related, but then reveal that they are actually going to end up as a couple?

Proof Rey is a Kenobi (Which Also Means Reylo Can Be Real!) Spoilers Ahead!

(I apologize for grammatical errors in advance.)

So I found this article on the Huffington Post, written by Ben Ostrower, about how Rey is the granddaughter of Obi Wan Kenobi. I feel that his points need to be further passed on; this is for all you Reylo shippers who are praying she’s not Luke Skywalker’s daughter.

Alright, I’m going to pass on what Ostrower said, in my own words. And in the words of a Reylo shipper. (I’ll get to Reylo at the end and the proof pointing to that.)

Okay, first thing; their accents. Obi Wan, besides C3PO, is the only one who has a British accent. No one else is British. Rey has the same accent as Obi Wan! (Before you joke that she’s C3PO’s daughter, I will tell you to shut up now.)

Reason 2; the Jedi Mind trick! The scene when Rey Jedi mind tricks Stormtrooper 007 to let her go strongly parallels when Obi Wan tricked a Stormtrooper that “these aren’t the droid’s you are looking for.” Now, before you say, “Well Luke used the Jedi mind trick too!” let me remind you of this;

It. Didn’t. Work. Jabba just laughed at him and dropped him into the Rancor pit. The Jedi mind trick is one of Obi Wan’s signature traits, and I’m sure Rey will use it successfully in future films as well.

Recap; Obi Wan and Rey can use the Jedi Mind trick well, whereas it’s not one of Luke’s prevalent strengths.

Moving on to reason three; the scene where Rey is sneaking around Starkiller Base parallels when Obi Wan is creeping around the Death Star in A New Hope.

Cool. The both have super stealth skills.

“That’s nice and all, but I need more!” you say into your computer screen.

Fear not! There’s way more evidence pointing to the fact that Rey is a Kenobi.

This reason points to most everyone’s new favorite villain; Kylo Ren/Ben Solo.

That’s right.

The only spoken connection about Obi Wan is Kylo Ren’s name. This highlights two things;

1. The overall importance of Obi Wan and how he’s still relevant.
2. The notable absence of Obi Wan coming up throughout the film until Kylo Ren’s name is revealed. This could be a trick of the filmmakers to guide us away from a larger reveal about Obi Wan.

And what reveal could that be? That Rey is his granddaughter!

Other things pointing to the Rey Kenobi theory:
1: It was Obi Wan’s voice Rey heard- not Luke’s- when she picked up the lightsaber. This strongly suggests a relationship between the two. “These are your first steps…”
2: They have similar outfits. Simple, yet may symbolize a connection.
3: JJ Abrams (God bless that man) has suggested that Rey’s loneliness is a key part of where she comes from. Obi Wan was in exile for YEARS. Luke had always been surrounded by others; not lonely by any means.

Yes, I know Yoda was in exile for the same about of time as Obi Wan, but Rey is NOT related to Yoda. No. Stop. (That would be an amazing plot twist though. Yoda’s ghost appears to Rey and says “Your father, I am. Surprised, you look.”)

Okay I’ll stop. I’m back on track now.

Star Wars has always had obvious themes to trace; good vs evil, small vs big, light vs dark- the list goes on. The Force Awakens takes a lot of these themes from the original trilogy, as it should.

How does this relate to Rey?

Well, there’s another theme in Star Wars; the passing of the torch to others. Example: Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the Force, which was a duty passed on to Luke. Sort of, you get the idea.

Concerning Luke’s lightsaber and how that is a major controversial point; it was Obi Wan who gave that lightsaber to Luke in the first place. Obi Wan had that lightsaber for years, between Episodes 3 and 4. It was Obi Wan giving the lightsaber to Luke in A New Hope which pushed the story- and our hero- along. This is arguably the most important scene in Episode 4, but that’s a debate for later.

With this in mind, this would make the final scene in The Force Awakens even MORE important. REY IS GIVING LUKE A LIGHTSABER, WHICH WILL MOTIVATE HIM TO COME IN TO PLAY. JUST LIKE HOW OBI WAN GAVE LUKE THE LIGHTSABER. LUKE’S MOTIVATOR IS THE LIGHTSABER. Let’s face it, that lightsaber BELONGS to Luke, and Rey most likely isn’t going to keep it. Yeah, it was “calling” to her. This was because it knew she could reunite it with its rightful owner.

It’s less of a “wand chooses the wizard” deal, and more of a less evil version of the Ring of Power in The Lord of the Rings. Like the Ring, the lightsaber wants to get back to it’s master.

Get it? Sorry if my other nerd references are confusing.

Also, isn’t the reversal of mentor roles a cool parallel? Instead of a Kenobi training a Skywalker, there is the possibility of a Skywalker training a Kenobi. The Force Awakens switched a lot of roles (example: father/son roles. You know what I mean.) and it would be cool if this was a possibility.

Another thing; Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, and The Force Awakens end with someone battling a Skywalker. A duel of the fates (get it?). Two out of the three fights, it’s Obi Wan Kenobi fighting. He fought Anakin in Episode 3, and then Darth Vader in Episode 4.

Rey would continue that pattern; Kenobi vs Skywalker.

And remember, Obi Wan left Anakin wounded and half dead on Mustafar in Episode 3, just like Rey left Kylo Ren for dead after seriously injuring him. Kenobis, amirite? It’s an interesting parallel to think about.

Skywalkers are a pretty messed up bunch, not going to lie. Anakin failed to bring balance to the force and destroy the dark, and Luke failed miserably in training Ben Solo and a new generation of Jedi. Ben Solo went crazy. Skywalkers rely on their emotions, only really using the Force when someone is guiding them.

Those aren’t traits of Obi Wan, nor are they of Rey. It’s Obi Wan who is noble and pure of heart, and so is Rey. Maybe it runs in the family…?

Okay, let’s take a moment to visit the masterpiece that is The Empire Strikes Back. Remember when Yoda says that there’s another hope besides Luke? We were led to believe that this was a reference to Leia, but how dramatic would it be to mean that Yoda was talking about another Kenobi? After all, Leia never became a Jedi. If Rey is a Kenobi and “brings balance to the force”, then the original trilogy (and the prequels, I guess. No one cares about them.) would take on a new meaning.

Okay, to cover some other questions you may have;

Obi Wan had a bunch of downtime once the Jedi fell. At the end of Revenge of the Sith, there’s nothing left of his fellow Jedi besides Yoda. That means the Jedi Code is kind of obsolete. He could have broken the whole “Jedi are forbidden to love” thing. I mean, it’s a stupid rule anyways. How are there supposed to be more Jedi if Jedi can’t procreate? Obi Wan could have had a wife, a child; he probably ordered them to leave him so they wouldn’t be in danger. Too many people with the Force in one place would have led Darth Vader to them.

If this were true, it would be like Rey being abandoned on Jakku; Kenobi’s keep other Kenobi’s out of harm’s way.

But this is all just speculation.

Let’s move on to something that has WAYYY more evidence.


Now, it’s not just a trash ship, mind you. There’s actually a lot of serious evidence backing up a possible romantic relationship between Ben Solo and Rey (Kenobi.)

If Rey is a Kenobi and not a Skywalker like Ben, then incest is a worry of the past!

Okay, here are some reasons Reylo is a thing (I’m going to use Kylo/Ben interchangeably, so bear with me):

1: Ben quickly recognizes the potential Rey has, and asks Snoke almost IMMEDIATELY if he can train her. (We all know he wants to be with her, don’t deny it.)

2: Kylo takes his mask off in front of her. He also tells her not to be afraid. If he didn’t feel strongly about her, he would have just tortured her physically like he did with Poe. He went easy on her, because he didn’t want her damaged.

3: When Ben finds out that a girl had been helping the droid with the map to Luke, he becomes obsessed with her.

4: He carried her all the way to his ship when he could have had someone else do it. Awwww.


6: Now that we are seeing someone being tempted by the Light Side of the Force instead of the Dark, wouldn’t it be cool to see love as a driving factor that leads someone out of darkness, rather than into it? Rey is literally the embodiment of what is good and pure in the world. Kylo Ren is the exact opposite. He could see who Rey is and how she uses the Force for good, which could make him accept the good in him as well. We already know he respects her, as he said “she’s more powerful than she knows.”

7: “I can take whatever I want.” -Actual Kylo Ren quote when he was looking at Rey. Kind of creepy, but foreshadowing something. (Plus, Rey found him hot, you could see it in her eyes. Just saying.)

8: If Rey is a Kenobi, we could go back to the old ‘Kenobi guiding a Skywalker’. It would be a nice nod to the originals.

9: There are so many parallels to Anakin and Padame and what we’ve seen with Rey and Ben. There are too many to list here, but there is a list somewhere around tumblr talking about the connections between the romances. More parallels!

10: So in the novel version of TFA, Kylo Ren’s inner emotions are mapped out in detail. He’s conflicted by Rey, and feels like he knows her. Deep down, they have a connection. He even says “It is you.” to Rey. Their relationship is going to be further intertwined.

11: Gosh, they’d be so cute together. Look at them. Just look at them.

12: Also, Ben is a SOLO. I mean, come on. He’s got to have inherited some of his father’s skills with the ladies.

There are way more things supporting Reylo, but that’s an essay for another time. So, in conclusion, Rey is a Kenobi and Reylo is real. Okay, I’ kidding. There is a lot of evidence that backs up the theory of Rey Kenobi and the ship of Reylo. I think it would be too obvious to make Rey Luke’s daughter. After all, Star Wars likes to give us huge plot twists. Rey Skywalker would be obvious, whereas Rey Kenobi would be HUGE. Go big or go home.

Either way, whoever Rey turns out to be, I’m sure it’ll be good.

May the Force be with you!

Star Wars rewatch, part 2: Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back

General Impressions, or the Movie on Its Own

Damn this is well-made movie. I mean it does have flaws, but it’s so well-directed, introduces great new characters, and it doesn’t matter how many times I’ve seen it, the moment where Vader tells Luke the truth hurts. That’s all because of Mark Hamill’s acting - he sells the horror and pain. I am really looking forward to him playing Luke again in episode VIII.

Overall, it’s a major step up from the first film, even though the first film is still great. They clearly had a bigger budget this time around, the set-pieces are mostly amazing, and again, Kushner directs it fantastically. The one moment that didn’t work so well for me was when the walkers collapse and blow-up in the snow. Something about the model scaling made it too obvious they were models rather than gigantic machines. Maybe something with the snow? I’m no expert.

Oh, and I did find the technical jargon hilarious. A hyperdrive motivator? an alluvial dampener? You guys just picked random worlds out of the dictionary, didn’t you?

The Special Edition Stuff

The additions to this movie work much better because they are much less obtrusive. I think they may have added a few shots early on, but nothing jumped out at me other than the new Emperor footage (to make it match ep VI) but especially Cloud City, which was an improvement. Kushner had apparently envisioned a much more open city, where you could see the outside, but they simply couldn’t manage it at the time. The simple switches in the background and a few shots of the city outside all look really good. This is probably because, as I mentioned last time, CGI at the time could handle buildings and robots but not people, and worked better in backgrounds than in the foreground. And again, it was something that Kushner had actually wanted rather than a retroactive decision.

Continuity, Part–actually, no, let’s talk about shipping instead

A while back io9 had an open thread for people to talk about their head canons, and someone gave one for Star Wars in regards to Han and Leia. There’s been a fair amount of justified criticism of Han seemingly to magically know that Leia likes him and pushing his interest on her. So, the person proposed, what if the reason he thinks Leia is interested in him is because they’ve already hooked up once? In their head canon, Han and Leia’s tension had already built to a one-night stand, and she’s been trying to brush it off as meaningless ever since then while Han insists it happened because she’s in love with him.

I decided to watch the film with that head canon in mind and holy crap does it work. From pretty much their first look, everything about them screams “We’ve already slept together.” Which, you know, the actors had, but I really like it as an in-universe theory. Han comes across as less of a dick, and Leia’s warming up to him works better too. And they do warm up - one of the really great things in this script is the steady, gradual change in their dialog as their romance develops, from always sniping at each other to being supportive and caring.

Now, I’m sure all of this made Luke and Leia shippers sad at the time, but I do like them a lot better as just-friends/siblings…and anyway, after this film I’d be less inclined to ship Luke and Leia and more towards shipping Luke and Han. Han risks his life to save Luke without a thought, and the long look they share as Luke is preparing to leave…it would be a pretty easy OT3 if two of the members weren’t related. Though as for me, I’ve read too much Homestuck and read them as a ♣ more than a true OT3 (Han and Chewie are ♦, of course).

Continuity, Part 2: Relation to the Prequel Trilogy

I will, of course, be jumping to episode II as my next installment (I already have it checked out from the library). Knowing that R2D2 knows who Yoda is, I found myself adding in “translations” of his beeping, since Luke doesn’t understand him without the ship’s computer. R2 is basically screwing with Yoda in their scenes, my friends, it’s hilarious. And Yoda knows who R2 is but doesn’t want to give anything away.

The reveal that Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker was only partially foreshadowed in the first film, but heavily hinted at here. From the opening crawl, where Vader is “obsessed with finding young Skywalker,” to Yoda’s concern that Luke is too much like his father and sarcastic evaluation of Anakin as a great Jedi, to Vader’s persistence in keeping Luke alive, not to mention the vision in the cave, it all screams to the big reveal if you know it’s coming.

The prequel was an attempt to show how Anakin became Vader. Some of it worked, some of it didn’t, and I’ll be talking about it (plus the Clone Wars animated series, plural) over the next few months.

Knowing what happened in the prequels, it’s also impossible not to see Yoda and Obi-Wan as repeating the same mistakes they made with Anakin with Luke. They hide things from him, tell him to ignore his friends and repress his feelings - you do all realize that’s what made Anakin vulnerable to temptation from the dark side, right? Honesty, caring, and safe emotional expression need to be added to the Jedi code.

Continuity, Part 3: Relation to the New Films

“Some day you’re going to be wrong, and I just hope I’m there to see it.”

You have no idea how close I came to tearing up at this line. Because Han is wrong, but she’s not there to see it - she isn’t able to be with him when he dies and I have to stop now I’m having too many feels.

Rewatching this also reminded me again of how eminently awesome Lando Calrissian is as a character. He has one of the clearest character arcs with the most cheer-worthy culmination (blowing up the Death Star in the next film). I’ve got zero interest in learning the origins of Han Solo, but I am really looking forward to Donald Glover playing young Lando. Also, I want to know what Lando is up to now, where he is, in future episodes.

Update on the Droid Revolution

Okay, the change in behavior of C3PO between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back is wild. He goes from being subservient and resigned to his fate as a perpetual slave to being the king of sass. He snarks at the humans around them, flinging around insults and backhanded compliments (”He’s quite clever, you know - for a human being.”)

What happened? Well, all I can conclude is that the rebel alliance, unlike both the Empire and the old Republican order (represented by the Organas) actually treat droids like sentient beings. They give them freedom, and with that freedom C3PO decided to passive-aggressively fire back at the privileged class that formerly oppressed him. The closeness between Poe and BB8 in the new episodes seems to bear out the idea that droids get more recognition and rights under the new order.

In fact, maybe C3PO and R2D2, their courage and their contributions, helped make that all possible. Made biological species realize that droids are people too.

And they are still the purest ship. “Do take good care of yourself” indeed. This is love, people. Pure ♥.


I’ve slowly been building up my arsenal of force4ham edits, so in the spirit of valentines day, here’s my collection of Han/Leia edits! I’ll put the rest on here at a later date.



I taste you on my lips and I can’t get rid of you
So I say damn your kiss and the awful things you do
Yeah, you’re worse than nicotine

-Nicotine Panic! At The Disco


From the Empire Strikes Back script:


	CLOSER POV out cockpit window of Luke getting bigger
	as the Falcon closes on him, until his falling body
	skims the cockpit window and lands with a thud on the
	outside hull of the ship.


	The hatch pops open with a hiss of pressure.  Lando
	reaches out to help the battered warrior inside the
	ship.  Suddenly, there is a huge explosion near the 
	ship causing it to lurch wildly.  Luke is almost
	thrown overboard, but Lando grabs his hand in time.