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[Fairytales Retold] Disney in Ancient Asia ~ Tangled ~

↳Set in Ancient India where Sonam Kapoor is Rapunzel, a beautiful young woman who lives with her evil stepmother on a fort in the middle of a great lake and Ranveer Singh is Raj, the lovable scoundrel that finds her. Stolen by the evil witch as a baby from the palace, Rapunzel grew up lonely but bright. Her only company are the doves that fly from the nearby mountains that surround the lake until, one day when the witch leaves on her monthly travels, a young ruffian shows up at the fort. Raj tells Rapunzel he was running from some unsavory folks and, having found a small barge hidden away in some trees by the shore, used it to flee his pursuers. Slowly but surely as the days go by, the two fall in love and Raj convinces Rapunzel that the world isn’t such a scary place as her mother had her believe. They flee the fort using the barge and Raj shows Rapunzel the beauty of the land. One day, they reach a city where a great, colorful festival is taking place and they join in the dancing and merry making. As luck would have it, the King and Queen are in attendance and they recognize the lost princess. They family reunites and the princess is crowned and taken to live in the castle with his family and Raj as her husband and consort.

anonymous asked:

This isn't meant to be mean. I just want an answer and you're pretty good at explaining stuff but why does tumblr hate Anna and Elsa from frozen but love rapunzel from tangled? I don't mean this in an offensive way but why don't they mind rapunzel adding to the long list of white princess

Not mean at all! I invite discussion! and I thank you for your question! I don’t know if I’m the most qualified person on Tumblr to speak on the issue.For two reasons…one is, I’m not all of Tumblr- I am but one individual with one mind and one stream of thoughts. I don’t base my opinions on what the Tumblr collective thinks I like to form my own. and Two- I don’t eat breath and sleep Disney politics, yes I do keep a finger on the pulse of what’s going on because as an aspiring animator I feel obligated to dissect the big names in the biz, but there are tumblr users who DO dedicate a ton of time and effort into putting Disney under a microscope and are probably 100X more informed than me such as - Racebent Disney + Feminist Disney  + Disney For Princesses +This could have been Frozen

If you’d really like to see me break down Tumblr’s beef with Frozen you can read my lengthy reply to another anon HERE.

Now to really answer your question! why do people on Tumblr seem to prefer Rapunzel from Tangled over Anna and Elsa from Frozen. I honestly haven’t noticed a huge discrepancy between peoples preferences because I’ve been clued in on “Tangled” years before the movie actually came out and if I recall correctly people were bitching about it Rapunzel even then. I was really excited about this movie when I first heard about it because Rapunzel was one of my favorite fairy tales as a small child! I had very long hair myself and I didn’t get out much because I was bullied a lot by the children in my neighborhood. Needless to say I found myself in an imprisoned girl with long hair. So when the movie was announced I felt an instant connection to it. However there is a catch to this. The Rapunzel I saw in the sneak peeks was very, very different from the ones I grew up with.

That is Rapunzel from the Fairy Tales for every child series. She was the first beautiful brown Rapunzel in my life but she was not alone. Chalkzone had their own version of Rapunzel starring Queen Rapsheeba who is an actress/singer/rapper. 

These were the Rapunzel’s of the 90’s and I loved them both because I, as a child with very long curly, wild hair, I could relate.

When the pictures for Tangled - AT THE NAME was titled Rapunzel: Unbraided surfaced My heart sank.

Didn’t we already have three blonde princesses who are white in Cinderella, Aurora and Eilonwy? I could stretch it to six if I included Tinker Belle, Alice and Giselle. but Tink and Alice aren’t princesses in title and Giselle can’t legally be used in merch because Disney would have to pay the actress for using her likeness. And I know I’m going to get shit for including Eilonwy but she’s still a Disney princesses even if people don’t know who the fuck she is. The only reason she does not appear on official merchandise is because initially her movie had a poor box office performance BUT I DIGRESS.

So it was a little jarring to say the least to see yet another skinny, pretty, blonde, white princess with light colored eyes. The only thing that makes Rapunzel stand out from her fellow princesses is that she has freckles. Which is great! but it really is a pittance in terms of mold breaking character design. So Rapunzel is not without it’s problems. even before Tumblr was a thing people were complaining about the over abundance of cookie cutter princesses. They just didn’t have as much social media sites to vent too as we do now and by the time those sites came along everyone got their gripes about Rapunzel and her design out of their system or simply didn’t care to discuss it at length anymore. Because truth be told stories about Tangled have been circulating the web since 2004. one & two.  By the time the movie rolled around in 2010 everyone who cared was just so done with it.

Now in terms of how Tangled relates to Frozen I’m going to stress that context is very important. I’m pretty sure Rapunzel was the first white princess we had in a 10 year gap of Disney princesses during the Disney Renaissance. People are more willing to accept her because she was the first in awhile. the passage of time is very important here. Between 2010 and 2013 we’ve had 4 white princess in succession. that adds up to one white princess per year in a very short time period. The little girls who are seeing these movies? Disney’s 5 - 10 year old demographic? that is all they are going to see for a very long time. Rapunzel, Merida, Anna and Elsa have literally flooded the market. Disney seems to be going backwards in terms of female marketability.

People are bitching about Anna and Elsa because not only are they both blonde and white there are two of them! and the reason they keep getting compared to Rapunzel is because they both look so much like her! when confronted with this Disney pulled some frat boy answer out of their ass about how Women’s faces are so much harder to animate or some junk!? are you fucking serious!? I shouldn’t even have to point out why this is a problem- but in case I do here are for links for you to look into. one , two

The very IDEA that a multibillion dollar corporation- that’s right, Billions with a B. is basically going “weh, it’s too hard!” is insulting! it’s even more so insulting when you look at the fact their predecessors. Tex Avery. Who made one of the hottest cartoon females in existence, Red was very expressive! ask anyone whose attracted to her if they are less attracted to her because she emotes and I doubt you’ll get a “No”

Now I know that Red isn’t Disney but I brought her up beside she inspired the undisputed hottest cartoon character to ever grace the silver screen. Jessica Rabbit. Who had not only her own distinctive face shape but also had a wide range of expressions.

Even Disney’s straight to video squeals that hardly anyone ever watches that had a much smaller budget than their theatrical release counterparts have attractive women in them with a wide range of face shapes and expressions!

The above is from Mulan 2 and are Princesses Ting Ting, Su and Mei. Everyone loves to excuse Frozen by going ” WELL Elsa and Anna look so much alike because they are sisters!” Yes, they are sisters but they’re not fucking twins. Mulan 2 featured 3 Chinese sisters who all looked distinctive from each other without anyone confusing them for each other or confusing them for past Disney princesses (such as the constant confusion between Rapunzel and Anna) So the very idea that Disney thinks the public is so stupid as to not point this out is laughable. They had the technology to not fuck this up 10 years ago, they have the technology to do it now.

Now let me break it down even further and limit my griping just to the officially sanctioned Disney princesses. (we’re going to Ignore the fact that Mulan isn’t a princess in title she is the wife of a war general and that characters like Eilonwy and Kida are royalty by title but are often excluded from the lime light)

That’s them. the Holy 11 which will soon be 13 when Anna and Elsa have their coronation

How many white princesses are there? Nine, How many Black princesses? One, how many Arab princesses? One, How many Native American Princesses? One, How many Chinese Princesses? none One. If you don’t see how that doesn’t add up then you are part of the problem.

There are a ton of separate issues going on with Frozen and Tangled only had to deal with a few of them.With Tiana Disney has proven that they are capable of handling a WoC with the respect and dignity she deserves, Elsa and Anna have near identical face molds to Rapunzel- it’s honestly like Disney didn’t even try to make them different. People probably would have bitched less about them being white if they at least didn’t look like the same white person. I’ve seen the movie twice now and I still fuck up their names because they basically look like the same person. I know there’s a lot of people out there who like to sympathetic with Disney and go ” but it’s HARD!” when Disney does shit like create engines for unique hair flow and snow flakes but oh, the characters FACES aren’t that important! just the way their hair flows and fucking snow flakes are.

So…in conclusion…is Frozen WORSE than Tangled in terms of problematic Disney bullshit? No, I don’t think so. I just think it’s a matter of timing and Frozen being the straw that broke the camels back.

It was still a really great movie and had it’s own ground breaking moments but not any that mattered a great deal or hadn’t been done before.