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At the very end, I think I’m still doing as an actor what I wanted to do as a diplomat slash politician, which is keep on exploring human nature. That’s how I see it. And I think that you as a journalist, me as an actor, other people as anthropologists and sociologists—what we’re all doing is trying to deal with human nature and trying to get answers. I think that as an actor it is probably the most poetic way I’ve found to keep doing that research.


“I was still in fighting shape when we started Point Break, and what I’d learned about balance and core work in boxing helped me with surfing, rock climbing, and snowboarding. They all build on each other. But at the same time, I wanted to create a body for Bodhi that was different, because he has a different physicality. I did much more functional training mixed with CrossFit, Power Pilates, and yoga.”