Hey guys! Silas here to give you a quick profile of one of the unique mechanics in Gaiden, to help newer players get an idea of what Echoes might look like. Today, it’s how its class system works.
Gaiden’s classes are unique less in their function and more in how they promote. For starters, (most) characters can only promote at shrines.
These shrines have been nicely updated for Echoes, and they were kind enough to let us choose whom to promote this time instead of running through them all in a fixed sequence.
Promotions have different requirements than other games as well. While you still need to be a certain level in a prior class, the levels aren’t consistent. Villager, the only “tier-0″ class, promotes at level 3, while first tier classes promote at level 7
(with Mages being the exception) and second tier classes promote at 10. The Villager class in particular is interesting, as they can follow any of five class branches:
In the original Gaiden, the initial promotion was random (albeit cancelable), but thankfully, they’re giving us a sense of agency this time.
One thing of note is that not many stats change on promotion. In fact, in Gaiden, a unit’s stats will increase to the base stats of the class they promote to, and do not adjust down. If their stats are universally higher than that class’s bases, they’ll gain a point of HP instead. Looking at the above screenshot, we can find that this is still the case. Also confirmed, Villagers still only have 4 Mov, meaning movement values for all classes are likely to be the same as before.
Only Def and Mov change going from Villager to Cavalier. (Mov still goes down if you promote to a class with less, though.) Everything else beats the bases, so no change. Important for strategists, this removes the penalty for promoting early found in almost all other FE games. The benefits of promoting later are also diminished.
We also have almost-certain confirmation that the promotion levels are about the same as before, because of this guy:
Say hi to Luke or Lukas, depending on whom you ask. He’s the guy that kicks off the whole plot of Gaiden, and he starts as a Soldier, a pre-promote of “Armor” (which will probably be changed to Knight, while Gaiden’s “Knight” class will likely be changed to Cavalier, to be consistent with other games released in the west). If Echoes uses the same promotion requirements as other FE games, Lukas would need to have reached level 10 by the third (mandatory) map in the game, which is fairly unrealistic even if the devs added “prologue” maps as they did with the remakes Shadow Dragon and Heroes of Light and Shadow. On the other hand, level 7, while not easy, is still reasonably attainable by this point.
Oh, one last weird thing. One of the tier three classes can promote back into Villager.
I don’t know why this is a thing, but they let you do it, and it lets characters who have passed through the Mercenary branch go back into another one, leading to more leveling opportunities and new strategic options so…yeah, knock yourself out.
As VincentASM over at SerenesForest pointed out, we have a new Villager this time, and her name is Effie (why Effie, though?). Of note, all Villagers in the original game were male, so there’s a possibility that she could promote into an entirely new set of classes. Based on comparison between Effie’s second sprite and May’s, it seems that she may have promoted into a Mage in the demo.
…which is unfortunate, because Mage was the only class in the original Gaiden that both genders could use, so that doesn’t give us any new leads. However, Effie’s inclusion does give hope for other new characters, who may or may not sport new classes with their own unique promotions.
That about wraps it up for this one. Keep an eye out for another post coming soon – topic of choice: Gaiden’s unique approach to magic.
Could I have a Psiioniic meeting Sollux? Perhaps in some AU where our Alternian heroes liberate him from the Condesce's ship and he's just shocked and confused to see that he has a descendant (and possibly that the rest of his friends do too)?
This kind of AU is 200% my jam, omg. Thank you so much for asking me to draw this. (I was going to fit a Karkat in there somewhere but I still have a fair amount of drawing to get through, so alas. Another time perhaps.)
Let my poem, like a shrine, contain - your name; In my heart shall ever proudly reign - your name; Let my countrymen hear echoes, east and west, Of the music in that joyous strain - your name; On this shrine shall nations henceforth read your fame; Here it stays to glow and glow again - your name. When both you and I have crossed in Charon’s boat, Even then the glory will remain - your name. More than Cynthia, Laura, Delia and Corrina, Time will ever hallow my refrain - your name.
There, when she’d held her breath, cast her eyes down
towards his feet. There, when the words
had come spilling out of her mouth, for no other reason than that she wanted to
tell him, wanted him to hear. And there,
when he’d thrown his arms around her with abandon, bunching up the soft knit of
her sweater in the palm of his hand, hook squeaking lightly over the leather of
her jacket as he’d lifted her off her feet.
It was the rush of breath out of her mouth, the way she’d
anchored her hands in his hair, tilted her head so she could curl her tongue
around his. It was the pleased grunt
bubbling in the back of her throat as he’d leaned back, until the warm weight
of her belly pressed against his, until he could feel her heartbeat thrumming off
the rhythm of his own.