earthbound hack

anonymous asked:

What exactly gave you the idea to create 'Undertale' and does your Earthbound Halloween Hack (which is incredible btw) have something to do with it?

No, the hack does not. I’m honestly not that proud of the hack, in all honesty. Undertale was a bunch of random ideas which sort of merged into one thing. A thing which became popular.

It’s not a stupid question, man. There’s been a few iterations of Megalovania, and it can be a little confusing to pinpoint where it came from.

Toby Fox has done three different versions. It’s kind of become his signature theme for projects he gets involved with. It was first heard in ‘Radiation’s Halloween Hack,’ an Earthbound ROM hack he made when he was sixteen - which was, in his words, a ‘bad rom hack with swears.’

He was originally going to use another song entirely, but something fell through - so instead he evidently shouted whatever he felt like into a microphone and copied it down. 

 It resulted in him composing  this :

A solid track, but probably lacking the energy later versions had. 

In the Homestuck version, it didn’t change much - but there are some variations that have been added, mainly the electric guitar part courtesy of Jorden “Tensei” De Bruin.

By the time Undertale came around however, he’d built up on a lot of experience music-wise - and gave the tune a far more thorough makeover.

listen to how much more energetic that is holy cow

So yeah! Megalovania through the ages. I’m very curious as to whether he’ll create another version in any future projects of his. 

Tumblr and Game Theory
  • MattPat: It's very possible Sans is an AU version of what happened to Ness in the totally fanmade AU of EarthBound Halloween Hack but not the actual EarthBound just AU fanon within AU fanon--
  • Tumblr: YOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT ONE'S MADE BY NINTENDO THE OTHER BY TOBY OMG YOU'RE SO DENSE DENSER THEN WE ARE HOLY FUCKING SHIT
  • MattPat: stfu you tried to get a Steven Universe fan to kill herself because of her art style
All Megalovanias
Darkness1356
All Megalovanias

it’s a 8eautiful day outside. 8irds are singing. flowers are 8looming. on days like these, I have fucking had it with your shit. You little fuckers are going to have your 8odies ripped in half. I’ll shove your asses so far down your throat that when you crap you’ll 8e signing fucking 8eethoven

tl;dr: eat shit, and have a 8ad time

leafbladie  asked:

How do you feel about Game Theory's new Undertale video? It doesn't feel like anything conflicts with the lore, other than the fact he said Sans bleeds, even though it's ketchup. Though oddly enough, we don't see Sans turn to dust.

(undertale spoilers)

It is interesting, but there are a few reasons as to why we weren’t completely satisfied with it. The first you already stated, which is that Sans is likely bleeding ketchup. It’s not confirmed, but the “blood” is coincidentally the same exact color as the ketchup. (And this red is different from the red heart/soul and the red text.) It also wouldn’t make sense that Sans bleeds if the machine he traveled in destroyed his organs, including the heart. (Bones are made up of both organic and inorganic material, so we’ll let his skeleton body slide for now.)

Second, Sans has an interest in science, which would explain his knowledge of the sun. As Papyrus said, Sans loves “spacey sci-fi stuff”, especially when it’s real. And if Sans was a scientist as we have theorized, then there is even more reason for him to know what the sun is. Papyrus, on the other hand, hasn’t shown any interest in science, which is probably why he doesn’t recognize the sun. (And Sans’ choice of words, “we call that ‘the sun,’ my friend”, was likely a ribbing at Papyrus.)

Third, the marking on Papyrus’ battle body is likely just a nod to Earthbound. The outfit was made “a few weeks ago for a costume party” before Frisk arrived, so Papyrus only recently started wearing it. It is possible Papyrus wore regular clothes like his brother up until then.

The most important reason, however, is the photo album in Sans’ lab. 

If Sans truly was Ness and had photos of himself and his friends who are the “people you don’t recognize”, Frisk and Narra!Chara would not be able to recognize Sans either. He would have been a human in the photos. And Sans and Ness don’t look similar enough to each other, even with their standing stances. This is the biggest hole in the theory.

The theory does outline several interesting coincidences between Earthbound, Toby’s Earthbound hack, and Undertale. But these are likely just coincidences or references that Toby added as easter eggs. Other connections, such as the Megalovania song, amalgamates, and flowers in the Earthbound hack are probably just ideas reused in Undertale with no intention of tying the two together.

Alas, as interesting as it was, the theory falls flat. But it was still an enjoyable video.

anonymous asked:

What do you think of the idea that Megalovania is Chara's battle theme rather than Sans? I

(undertale spoilers)

there’s something that makes me question it in a big way, and that something is the existence of the unused track, song that might play when you fight sans. it contains elements of sans’ and papyrus’ themes, among other things. although it may have been intended for a neutral route battle, the fact is that sans was always intended to have his own battle theme. not to mention the fact that every other boss has their own unique battle theme connected to them. 

of course, megalovania has been used before, including an earthbound hack. so the name itself is probably not enough to give it away in any case. but if we focus on the name alone, we find something interesting. the song name could refer to the word megalomaniac - a person obsessed with the exercise of power, especially in the domination of others. that description doesn’t fit sans, which is fine because the song wasn’t originally made for sans.

so who in this game is a megalomaniac? the most likely candidate is chara. 

as the player runs through genocide and chara grows stronger, chara makes sure the player eradicated everyone. when the player tries to leave waterfall to fight undyne, if the player has not eliminated the quota of monsters, chara will notify the player of this and suggest to not leave yet. 

at the end of genocide, chara implies the player was never in control, that chara is the one in power. chara very well fits the description of megalomania. even if they aren’t happy with multiple genocide runs (”i cannot understand these feelings any more”), they take the effort to keep track of how many enemies are left to kill regardless.

but chara isn’t the only megalomaniac. the player is one, too. in a genocide run, the player is destroying everyone because they can. after all, the player is trying to prove they can beat genocide, and in many cases specifically sans. they exercise this power to dominate and beat the game. what else is a player trying to prove when they go after sans again and again?

however, this is only speculation driven by the meaning of the name. and the song existed long before undertale was created. it is possible that toby just decided to use this song as sans’ battle theme because of how amazing it is. 

personally, i like to think of once upon a time as chara’s theme, considering it plays while showing their journey in the intro. since chara is connected to everything in undertale, and elements of once upon a time can be found in many themes, it makes some sense. the idea also makes hopes and dreams seem a little more emotional – it wouldn’t just be asriel’s theme, but chara’s, too.

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HERE IT IS

I ADORE IT OH MY GOD

HOLY FLIP

anonymous asked:

Megalovania is not an UNDERTALE song (It came from the Earthbound Halloween Hack by Toby Fox) and I'm confused as to why people think it is

This guy gets it
This guy right here