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The Tragedy of Summerhall

The Tragedy at Summerhall was a fire at Summerhall, a pleasure castle of House Targaryen in the Dornish Marches, in 259AC. The conflagration caused the deaths of, among others, King Aegon V Targaryen, his heir Prince Duncan Targaryen, and Ser Duncan the Tall, the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. The cause of the fire is as yet unknown, but was connected with Aegon V’s desire to restore dragons to the Seven Kingdoms.

fuckingskywalkers  asked:

Hey! So, I know this is not the brightest question out there but I'm super confused with all the Targaryens and their similar sounding names and all the Duncans and whatever, so I thought I'd ask you... What the hell happened in Summerhall? I get that it burned down, was it Aegon the Egg (as i call him) trying to get some dragons going? Why would a nice fellow/king do that? Why do I feel like I'm way off in the timeline and it's another Aegon/Aemon and I'm missing something? Please help

~it is a mystery~

No, really, we have no real idea of what truly happened at Summerhall and why. And GRRM has straight up said we’re not going to find out in The World of Ice and Fire (as significant spoilery information will be blotted out somehow). It’s unknown if we’ll find out the details in the later books of ASOIAF (god knows when), or in the final Dunk and Egg story (that is, never).

But here’s what we do know:

  • Summerhall was the Targaryen summer palace, a castle located in the Stormlands near the Reach border. Also, like Dragonstone is granted to the Targaryen crown prince, Summerhall seems to have been the home of the fourth son. (Maekar was Prince of Summerhall before he became king, and his fourth son Aegon may have been Prince of Summerhall as well.)
  • The event that fans call “the tragedy at Summerhall” occurred in 259AC, when the castle burned down in a great fire.
  • It is believed that the fire caused the deaths of King Aegon V (Egg, age 60), his Lord Commander of the Kingsguard Duncan the Tall (Dunk, age ~67), and Aegon’s eldest son Duncan the Small (aka “the Prince of Dragonflies”), among others. (Note that Duncan Targaryen was not Aegon’s heir, as he had abdicated in order to marry for love.)
  • Duncan Targaryen’s wife Jenny of Oldstones had a friend, a dwarf woods-witch (that she claimed was one of the Children of the Forest, but that’s unlikely). It may be thought that this woods-witch died at Summerhall, but she did not — she’s still alive, and currently known as the Ghost of High Heart, living in the Riverlands and exchanging prophecies for wine and music.
  • The fire at Summerhall was on the same day that Rhaegar Targaryen was born. (Rhaegar was the son of Aerys and Rhaella, the children of Jaehaerys II, Aegon V’s second son.) Rhaegar may have been born at Summerhall itself during the event (as the World app says), but as yet that’s not been made clear in the books.

Things we are unsure of:

  • Whether Jenny of Oldstones died in the fire. “Jenny’s song” refers to her “dancing with her ghosts” in “the halls of the kings that are gone”, which could mean she survived Summerhall and afterwards lived (in madness) in the ruins. But note Oldstones is also a home of dead kings (the Mudd dynasty of the Riverlands), so it could be that part of the song refers to where she came from, not where she ended up. Or it could be both, songs are like that. Either way, the Ghost of High Heart is still broken up about it 40 years later.
  • Who else died in the fire. It could have included Aegon’s unnamed third son and/or other members of the Targaryen family (like Duncan and Jenny’s children, if they had any; or Aegon’s sisters and their families, etc), which would explain why there were so few Targs in the next generations.
  • What caused the fire. It is usually blamed on an attempt to hatch dragons through sorcery, but that may not be the full truth.
  • If it was an attempt to hatch dragons, why did Aegon want to do so? (Besides general Targaryen desire for dragons, of course.) But Barristan speaks of Aegon’s sons’ marriages for love causing enemies, and that may have been what spurred on the tragic decision. Also note that Jenny’s woods-witch prophesied that the Prince That Was Promised would come from the line of Aerys and Rhaella (and so they were commanded to marry), and it’s possible another one of her prophecies is what led to the tragedy.

Possibly we will find out more details (though not all of them) from The World of Ice and Fire. If not, we’ll just have to wait for later books for the whole truth.

Quotes about the events at Summerhall under the cut:

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anonymous asked:

Why would the Baratheons not use traditional Durrandon names after marrying a Durrandon princesses, adopting their words and sigil, and establishing themselves in their ancestral seat? A Durran Baratheon would be pretty cool!

Ormund Baratheon shared a name with Ormund III Durrandon. as does Robar Baratheon use a presumably Westerosi name (Robar II Royce). So I think the Baratheons largely used Westerosi names. Similarly, some Targaryens used Westerosi names for their own offspring, see Prince Duncan the Small and Queen Alysanne Targaryen.

Thanks for the question, Anon.

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anonymous asked:

I don't know if this has been asked before, but what do you think will happen if Egg's marriage plans for his children had worked? As in Duncan marrying Lady Baratheon, Jaehaerys with Celia, Shaera with Luthor, and Daeron to Olenna? And probably Rhaelle with an Arryn/Stark/Lannister/Martell instead of Lyonel. For one I think the whole Summerhal tragedy might be avoidable since Egg would have enough political alliances to make his reforms somehow work, instead of trying to do it via dragons.

Well, I wrote this about it, but here are some other ideas:


Father is such  a clever man.

Rhaelle has always known this - Duncan and Jaehaerys would deny it, bitter as they are, and Shaera and Daeron might be rueful, or reluctant, but Rhaelle knows. It was she, after all, who sat on Mother’s knee and listened as her lord father explain why House Baratheon, why House Tully, why not House Lannister. 

Mother once told Rhaelle that Father was too good for the throne, but Rhaelle sometimes thinks that the throne is not good enough for Father, which is something else altogether.

She tells Rickard this, as she urges him to use the influence he has with his father and their bannermen to push forward Father’s reforms - he is intelligent, her stoic husband, but naive in a way that she finds utterly charming, finds a refreshing change from all the men who came courting at court. He does not understand that Father’s reforms, though unpopular, will benefit them all.

Rhaelle knows, though. She has dreamed it, and her dreams come true.

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