Círdan is One of the Most Important Figures in Arda's History

If there was an important battle – he showed up. If there were refugees – he took them in. If you needed a lift near the sea, and the Eagles were busy, Círdan was there. He didn’t lose sight of who the enemy was. If there was drama an in-fighting – he wasn’t there. If there was great power that someone else could use more effectively – he gave it freely.

Stand back, I have examples and quotes.




Fought long against Morgoth before the Noldor arrived

“Thingol was cut off from Círdan at Eglarest.”(The Silmarillion – Of the Sindar)

“And when Thingol came again to Menegroth he learned that the orc host in the west was victorious, and had driven Círdan to the rim of the sea.” (The Silmarillion – Of the Sindar)

Showed up to the Mereth Aderthad

“And there came also great numbers of the Grey-elves, wanderers of the woods of Beleriand and folk of the Havens, with Círdan their lord.” (The Silmarillion – Of the Return of the Noldor)

Kept up good relations with the Noldor

“Between Círdan and Finrod there was friendship and alliance, and with the aid of the Noldor the Havens of Brithombar and Eglarest were built anew…with the aid of the Elves of the Havens, some of the folk of Nargothrond built new ships…” (The Silmarillion – Of Beleriand and its Realms)

Also kept up good diplomatic and economic relations with Doriath

“These [pearls] Círdan gave to him, for they were got in great number in the shallow waters about the Isle of Balar.” (Unfinished Tales – Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin)

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Falathrim Timeline


  • 1132: The Isle of Balar was created.  Ulmo moved a large island into the Bay of Balar from far out at Sea.  He used this same island to transport the Elves from Middle-earth to the Undying Lands. (the greater part of the island became Tol Eressa off the coast of Aman, but the eastern horn broke off and remained in the Bay of Balar and this became the Isle of Balar)
  • 1149: The Falathrim establish Brithombar and Eglarest
  • 1497: Morgoth sent orcs to invade Beleriand.  Círdan’s forces were cut off from Thingol and his army and were driven back to the coast.  The Falathrim were besieged in their havens until later that year when the Noldor arrived in Middle-earth.  (The Noldor, namely Celegorm, defeated the orcs in the Battle Under the Stars).


  • 52:   Finrod Felagund established Nargothrond, he and his new kingdom became allies of Círdan and the Falathrim
  • 65:   The Noldor of Nargothrond used their skills to build newer, stronger walls around Brithombar and Eglarest, as well as towns within the walls and harbors with stone piers and quays.  Barad Nimras was built as well to keep watch for enemy ships.
  • 455:  Turgon of Gondolin sent some of his people to the Isle of Balar to build ships to attempt to seek help of the Valar.
  • 462:  Círdan sailed a fleet to the Fith of Drengist to help Fingon drive back the army that invaded Hitlum.
  • 465: After the Battle of Sudden Flame, Gil-galad (parentage under debate) came to live with Círdan at the Havens of the Falas.
  • 472: Círdan and the Falathrim fought in the Battle of Unnumbered Tears, but afterwards Círdan took in refugees from other parts of Beleriand.  Círdan sent out a ships along the coasts to harass the enemy.
  • 473: Morgoth sent an army to attack Brithombar and Eglarest, ravaging the Falas.  Despite the valiant defense, the Havens were overrun and Brithombar, Eglarest and Barad Nimras were destroyed.  Círdan and Gil-galad lead groups of survivors to settle on the Isle of Balar.  Círdan also kept ships hidden around the Mouths of the Sirion.
  • 510:  Gondolin was destroyed, The Falathrim welcomed the survivors to the Havens at Sirion.
  • 538:  The Havens of Sirion were attacked by the sons of Feanor and the survivors fled to the Isle of Balar.  (some sources indicated that soon the remaining free Elves and Men of Beleriand were driven out by Morgoth’s forces and took refuse on the Isle of Balar).
  • 542:  Eärendil reaches the Undying Lands in Vingilot and successfully made his plea to the Valar and inspired the War of Wrath ending the First Age.
  • 545:  Host of Valinor land in Beleriand, actually landing in Elgarest and driving back the orc forces.
  • 587:  Destruction of Beleriand.


  • 1:  The Grey Havens were founded by Círdan and his Falathrim, settled on the Gulf of Lune that was formed at the end of the First Age when Beleriand was destroyed.  The Blue Mountains were split by the new gulf and the River Lune changed its course to empty into it.  The Harborage in the Gulf of Lune held many ships and was typically used for elves departing to the Undying Lands.
  • 600:   Ships came from Numenor to the Gulf of Lune, starting with the voyage of Vëantur
  • 725:  Aldarion makes his first journey to Mithlond in the ship   Númerrámar captained by Vëantur.
  • 730:  Aldarion makes his second journey to Mithlond.
  • 1200:  Círdan and Gil-galad turn away Annatar
  • 1600:  Glorfindel and the Istari come to Middle-Earth and harbor in Mithlond
  • 1700: A fleet from Numenor led by Admiral Ciryatur came to the Gulf of Lune to help the Elves defeat Sauron in the War of the Elves and Sauron.
  • 3320: After the destruction of Numenor, Elendil sailed to the Gulf of Lune and founded the North-Kingdom of Arnor in Eriador.
  • 3430: Last Alliance formed
  • 3431: Last Alliance marches to Imladris
  • 3434: Battle of Dagorlad, Siege of Barad-dûr
  • 3441: Death of Gil-galad


  • 1975:  A great fleet arrived from Gondor to help fight the forces of the Witch King of Angmar.  There were so many ships that there was hardly any room for them all in the Gulf of Lune.  The combined forces of Elves and Men of Gondor defeated the Witch King in the Battle of Fornost and drove him out.
  • 2463: Formation of the White Council (Círdan takes part)
  • 3021: The final ring bearers (minus Círdan) depart from Mithlond and pass over the sea.  (Samwise Gamgee followed in year 61 of the Fourth Age).

anonymous asked:

But, Amras. Like. Did they burn him? Did they actually burn him alive, or..?

There are two accounts of the burning of the ships at Losgar (you probably know this, anon, but for people who don’t) the one in the published Silmarillion:

            But when they were landed, Maedhros the eldest of his sons, andon a time the friend of Fingon ere Morgoth’s lies came between, spoke to Fëanor, saying: “Now what ships and rowers will you spare to return, and whom shall they bear hither first? Fingon the valiant?
           Then Fëanor laughed as one fey, and he cried: “None and none! What I have left behind I count now no loss; needless baggage on the road it has proved. Let those that cursed my name, curse me still, and whine their way back to the cages of the Valar! Let the ships burn!” Then Maedhros alone stood aside, but Fëanor caused fire to be set to the white ships of the Teleri. So in that place which was called Losgar at the outlet of the Firth of Drengist ended the fairest vessels that ever sailed the sea, in a great burning, bright and terrible. And Fingolfin and his people saw the light afar off, red beneath the clouds; and they knew that they were betrayed.

and this one, from the Shibboleth of Fëanor.

             The ships were anchored off the shore, in the Firth of Drengist, and all the host of Feanor went on land and camped there.
             In the night Fëanor, filled with malice, aroused Curufin, and with him and a few of those most close to Fëanor in obedience he went to the ships and set them all aflame; and the dark sky was red as with a terrible dawn. All the camp was roused, and Fëanor returning said: ‘Now at least I am certain that no faint- heart or traitor among you will be able to take back even one ship to the succour of Fingolfin and his folk.’ But all save few were dismayed, because there were many things still aboard that they had not yet brought ashore, and the ships would have been useful for further journeying. They were still far north and had purposed to sail southward to some better haven.
               In the morning the host was mustered, but of Feanor’s seven sons only six were to be found. Then Ambarussa went pale with fear. ‘Did you not then rouse Ambarussa my brother (whom you called Ambarto)?’ he said. ‘He would not come ashore to sleep, he said in discomfort.’ But it is thought (and no doubt Feanor guessed this also) that it was in the mind of Ambarto to sail his ship back and rejoin Nerdanel; for he had been much shocked by the deed of his father.
             That ship I destroyed first,’ said Fëanor (hiding his own dismay).

I waffled for a long time on which one to incorporate into my personal universe. I really like some aspects of the Shibboleth one. In particular, we otherwise have no information to distinguish the twins from each other, it explains why Amrod doesn’t do anything all Siege of Angband, and the thing with the names is eerie and brilliant and awful.

There are also some aspects I really dislike. In particular, the Shibboleth version basically absolves Fëanor’s host of all guilt for the betrayal of Fingolfin’s. If Fëanor burned the ships in secret with only a handful of accomplices (not including any of his sons except Curufin), and kills his own child in the process, then his children and his following are victims just as much as Fingolfin’s and it’s utterly inexplicable that forgiveness wouldn’t be extended and accepted immediately. Fingolfin looks incredibly heartless (for holding a grudge against Maglor for an act which Maglor took no part in and which killed Maglor’s younger brother). I like ‘Maedhros alone stood aside’ a whole lot better in terms of the political and interpersonal implications later on. And I find the Shibboleth version bizarre - no one wakes up until they’ve lit the whole fleet? No one notices Amras is absent? Amras says “I’ll sleep on the ships because it’s more comfortable”? It just doesn’t read to me like something that actually could have happened. 

And then I found an explanation that incorporates both of them and is more tragic than either, so now I’m settled on that. To answer your question, anon, yes, they actually burn him alive.

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“They preserve p, t, and k after nasals, of course, as well as intervocalic m. S is unlenited, and I have been able to determine – “

“How they say ‘food supply’, perhaps? 'We need medicine’? 'These plants are poisonous’?” Caranthir’s temper is quick - proverbially so - but this is anger born of real desperation, and his tone is more acerbic than enraged. 

Curufin sniffs. “Even you must understand that a thorough comprehension of the salient linguistic features of the Mithrim tongue is essential to our continued cooperation.”

“I’d say not starving to death is pretty fucking essential.”

They have made camp just south of the Firth of Drengist. The location, chosen by Tyelkormo and a small party of scouts, has fresh water and natural shelter from the elements. Lit by strings of lamps, dancing in the wind beneath the countless stars, it is almost beautiful. More to the point, it is entirely barren. Caranthir puts his head in his hands and sighs.

“I’d have expected you to notice, since Atar hasn’t exactly been shy of mentioning it – we’re not in Aman anymore. No Aman, no trees, no light. There has to be something growing here, because by Varda’s anointed ears there are certainly people around to eat it, but we don’t know what, or how, or if it’s going to kill us, and we’re living on what we’ve brought on the ships and their Valardamned handouts!”

“In which case, we should repay the generosity of our hosts by showing the appropriate respect to their language.” He returns to his desk and resumes writing, as if this has settled the question.

“I hope you can eat ink and paper, then.”

Curufin does not deign to respond. They stay like that, the one laying out tables of phonology in neat tengwar script, the other fiddling with a series of ledgers in Quenya shorthand. Neither one of them can say how long it’s been – they are not yet adept at reading the passage of time in the stars – when Curufin breaks the silence.

“If you would accompany Atar and I, on our next diplomatic visit, it is quite probable that you might ask them yourself. Of course, this would necessitate a command of Mithrim – or indeed of Quenya – extending beyond the coarser expletives.


He sets down the quill pen. “Yes, Moryo?”

“Shut the fuck up.”