Everyone thinks he’s still alive but I think that’s false. I believe that there’s been sightings of him because it’s wren wearing the Rollins mask to throw everyone off course and to lead the police in a different direction since hes not done with the girls yet being Charlottes real killer is still unknown. The most logical explanation of the Rollins mask. OR … rollins character is nonexistent and it’s been wren under the mask the whole time and crawled out of the grave. Just saying 😉
Looking back I’m sure this wasn’t a coincidence. Dr Rollins was a primary care physician for someone in Radley, who we can only assume was Mona. The birthdate is covered up but it looks like it 1994, which would make sense since Mona would have been 16 at the time. But how come Mona doesn’t recognise Dr Rollins? Or does she and she’s just not said anything cause she was helping him? Or maybe that’s where he met CeCe, in Radley? Maybe he was her primary physician? So many questions 😩😩
So I was thinking that Rollins sounded similar to Romulus/Remus, Rollo (I’m a big HP + Vikings fan) and how those names are related to wolf-meanings, so I decided to check, and lo and behold…
I’m just saying, with the past PLL easy-and-right-in-your-face-clues for CeCe, and with the current fairytale theme of Red Coat (Red Riding Hood) + “Big Bad” (wolf), it would make sense if Rollins is the new “big bad”
(This could also, in a sense, explain the “hiding in plain sight” idea, if Rollins is a “wolf in sheeps clothing”)
And again, I still really think he fits into the “Lord help the mister who comes between me and my sister/and Lord help the sister that comes between me and my man” song of CeCe’s. Rollins is obviously very manipulative, every interaction between him + Ali seems forced, and like he has her in some kind of trance, it’s so weird
A lot of you have already made the Rollins + Mona connection, I think we’re going to find out he’s obsessed with the major players and story of the A-game (Mona, CeCe, Ali)
No idea how Wren could fit into this, he + Rollins obviously aren’t twins. Anyways, just some thoughts to ponder
While watching the 6x19, I couldn’t help but notice the potential clue in Ali’s hospital scene. Her room number was 204, and these numbers in pll have had meaning before, so why not look it up?
I took a look at episode 4 of season 2, 204. Now I didn’t have the time to investigate or to full on analyze, but what caught my eye the most was a potential “Uber A”, Wren. How he was relevant as a clue to this was that he was in a hospital, like Ali. In the scene, he is in fact wearing the “A”. Suspicious? I barely even believe he is a doctor and neither does Rosewood PD.
All these huge clues and hints pointing to “Dr” Wren (for ex. the equation,“solve for A” spelling “Wren”) may be just as relevant now. If they’ve done clues from numbers before then why not this? Like it’s the perfect opportunity…
We all believed he would be Big A, but how about him being Uber A? Even better.
The Last Time We Saw the Elusive “Dr.” Wren Kingston
I have been going over episode 4x10 “The Mirror Has Three Faces” in my head time and time again because it is the last time we saw Wren. I wanted to watch him closely to see if there were any clues hidden in his actions, so I decided to go back and re-watch the episode. I found a few details to be quite interesting.
The suspicious behavior begins when Hanna tracks him down at The Brew. She asks him if he can sneak her in to visit Mona in Radley, the same way that he snuck in CeCe Drake. (Mona was currently back in Radley because of her fake confession to Wilden’s murder, and little did we know at the time that CeCe was also a patient at Radley in the past. So Wren “sneaking” her in to see Mona doesn’t add up to begin with - unless, of course, CeCe had been released during Mona’s time as a patient and needed Wren to sneak her back in to visit Mona, so they could plan their “A” shit - We now know that CeCe was already a patient there during Mona’s first admittance, and Wren had to have known this as well. Which is one of the reasons why he is so suspicious!) He tells Hanna that he can’t help, but as soon as she leaves, he makes this infamous phone call to someone who is obviously his ally:
At the time, Veronica was serving as Ashley Marin’s defense attorney in the Darren Wilden murder case, so Wren heads over to the Hastings to carry out “his end” of the deal.
On his way, he stops to spy on Hanna & Caleb… CREEP.
When he arrives to the Hastings, he violates his doctor-patient confidentiality agreement without a care in the world by telling Veronica that he is there to warn her about Mona. Mona, his own patient, and someone he is supposed to be protecting by law. He says that Mona is “going to turn the tables” on her
& that she is dangerous. He says that by confessing to Wilden’s murder, Mona is somehow going to use it as a way to hurt the girls.
“She wants to see them hurt, as well as the people closest to them, like Ashley Marin,” he says. Hmm sounds like something “A” would want, actually. And we now know that "A” was Charlotte DiLaurentis/Drake.
Wren knows that by saying this, Veronica will head straight to Radley to confront & threaten Mona. Those Hastings girls sure can be impulsive sometimes. The manipulation turns out to be a success, because that is exactly what Veronica does.
After she leaves Radley and her visit with Mona, the confrontation is reported & she gets thrown off of Ashley’s defense case. Ashley is left without a lawyer during a critical time in her case. The DA begins to suspect that Mona’s confession to Wilden’s murder was coerced, and that the person who coerced her was Veronica. Obviously this is what Wren wanted, but I wonder what he would gain by causing difficulty in Ashley’s case? He obviously wanted her to stay in prison, but why? Maybe to “hurt the people closest” to the Liars, as well as hurt the Liars themselves. That’s funny, because this was definitely Charlotte’s main course of action in those days.
So now that Wren’s “end” has been taken care of, it lead me to wonder who the other person was that he was talking to on the phone & what “end” they had to take care of.
The only possible answers I could find in the entire episode are these:
1.) By Charlotte’s request, he was speaking to CeCe’s “roommate” in Philly, who Aria was currently on her way to meet. This roommate tells Aria the story about CeCe hating Alison and her 4 “she devil” friends because of something that went down before Ali went missing. Remember that frat party Alison took the Liars to before she disappeared? The one where a drunk girl was thrown down the stairs?
Well apparently when this happened, Alison spoke with the school committee and blamed CeCe for this, which got her kicked out of UPenn.
But it quickly became apparent that CeCe didn’t hate Alison because of all the interactions we saw between them after this episode aired, and also because of everything we found out in the 6A finale. CeCe loved Ali (who we now know was actually her sister, and then more recently we are told they were just cousins). But regardless of how they were related, Charlotte did a lot of things to prove that she loved her family member (even if it was just an obsession). Ali loved CeCe too & had her back when shit hit the fan even though she didn’t even know they were related at the time. CeCe also knew that Ali was alive once she had Mona dig up the bones at the graveyard, so if she hated her so bad like her roommate said, then why didn’t she blow up Ali’s lie & tell everyone that she faked her death and skipped town? We now know why - because CeCe ended up being Charlotte DiLaurentis/Drake/Big A and she obviously wanted Alison to herself. She had a plan in order to obtain her, and this plan was already set in motion. She wanted Alison, Mona, and all of the Liars trapped in the dollhouse so that she could play with them whenever she wanted.
So maybe, just maybe, Wren was instructed to make this call in order to help Charlotte move her plan right along.
2.)He called the Red Coat that was currently living in the DiLaurentis basement (and this Red Coat turns out to be Charlotte DiLaurentis/Drake in the flesh). Hanna heads over to find Emily at the DiLaurentis house, but no one is home. She goes into Ali’s room and catches a sense of nostalgia as she goes through her things. She opens her jewelry box and we get a glance of the reflection in the mirror: Red Coat is standing directly behind her.
Did Wren call Red Coat and have her steal something from the house so Hanna couldn’t find it? Or maybe they wanted to scare Hanna? If he did indeed call her, then the only picture that sticks in my mind is this:
Wren has been MIA for 2 ½ seasons, but he has been mentioned. There have also been many clues pointing towards London, England. And with the discovery that Elliot Rollins is also British, Wren will stick in the back of my mind until the very last episode of the very last season.
WAS CHARLES THE FRAGILE PATIENT ON THE ROOF WITH MARION AT RADLEY
SOMEONE AT RADLEY PAID WILDEN TO ALTER HIS REPORT
THAT SOMEONE HAD TO HAVE HAD ENOUGH POWER TO QUIET SEVERAL MEMBERS OF STAFF AS WELL
JESSICA DILAURENTIS WAS ON THE BOARD
PETER HASTINGS SAYS HE FOUND OUT MARION WAS ON THE ROOF WITH A FRAGILE PATIENT AND SLIPPED (4x18)
THIS COULD EXPLAIN WHY A/CHARLES GAVE TOBY SO MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT IT
Okay okay wait what am I saying here
Wren is Charles, is the fragile patient, maybe Marion slipped/maybe he pushed her in a fit of rage (Jekyll and Hyde theme throughout 4B and we know Ezra is a red herring, also kind of works with a scene described in the finale spoilers)
Maybe Wren/Charles saw Marion as a mother figure, maybe he saw Dr. Palmer as a father figure (completely explains Wrens accent if it’s fake, his story about his father having dementia; that’s too much of a parallel with Palmer), maybe he saw Bethany Young as a sister, maybe he replaced his real family with his Radley family
This is a super quick, as I’m thinking about while rewatching season 4 theory, so I’m not sure how the details of Bethany’s escape and murder fit in yet, but
If you’ve read the new reddit spoilers for the finale and Charles scenes, like, idk man, I really feel like this could explain a few things from the spoilers
*NOTE: Some other quick little 4B connections: Ezra is “watching the cabin for a friend when he’s out of the country/Wren is currently in London.
Also, Emily mentions that the owner of the cabin sure paints a lot because there are drawings and paintings everywhere, including the sketch of the black and red train. This links to Wren coloring in the red coat of the farm family sketch (which potentially links Wren as Charles right there) at Radley + could also connect Wren and Bethany.
As I’ve said before, Amoji and A.D. are entirely two different people, and whoever A.D. is, is controlling Amoji. No one in Rosewood, and I mean NO ONE other than Hanna, Alison, and Charlotte have long blonde hair. So, it’s a wig. Which leads me back to… Poor Hanna Banana in the Dollhouse 2.0.
Yep. You read that right. The Dollhouse 2.0. Hanna is seen nearly naked here, which means whoever kidnapped her was ALSO the one to knock out/kill whoever is hanging from the bell tower, switching the outfits to make it seem like Hanna was in fact the one hanging there.
Whoever hung the person in the bell tower KNEW they were going to be there with Hanna, they had a blonde wig ready and planned to kidnap Hanna, it was a trap, a well thought out trap. A.D. was the only one around, at the time Hanna was at the bell tower Mary and Rollins were back at the DiLaurentis house, so niether of them could’ve done it.
So, Amoji gets a text from Hanna saying she killed Charlotte, Amoji tells A.D. that Hanna confessed, A.D. instructs Amoji to bring Hanna to the Bell Tower, A.D. is ready and waiting for them, knocks out/kills Amoji, switches their clothing and hangs her in the Bell Tower, and A.D. takes her back to wherever this place is:
Putting people in clothes, having wigs at the ready, knocking people out, sending messages, blackmail, taking the liars to a dollhouse… Seems all too familiar, doesn’t it?
WREN’S FATHER WAS IN A SANITARIUM FOR A LONG TIME. WHAT IF HIS DOCTOR WAS DR ROLLINS? WREN AND ELLIOTT (THAT ISNT HIS NAME BUT LETS CALL HIM THAT) WERE BROTHERS AND SO SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THIS SANITARIUM VISITING WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER.
WHAT IF THEIR FATHER FAKED HIS DEATH SO HE COULD GET OUT OF THE SANITARIUM AND THEY KILLED DR ROLLINS BECAUSE HE KNEW THEIR PLANS. WREN AND ELLIOTT GREW UP WITH A DERANGED FATHER WHO FELL IN LOVE WITH MARY DRAKE. MARY DRAKE HAD CHARLES AND THE COUPLE NEVER SAW EACH OTHER AGAIN FOR SOME REASON.
THEIR FATHER DIED AND MANAGED TO TELL HIS SONS THE TRUTH ABOUT MARY - THEY HAD A YOUNGER SIBLING. AND SO THE BROTHERS WENT TO ROSEWOOD TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AND FIND THEIR SIBLING. (WHO WAS CHARLOTTE)
THEY BOTH PROBABLY TOOK ON FAKE NAMES.
I BET AT FIRST THEY THOUGHT JESSICA WAS MARY. THEY MAYBE THOUGHT JASON WAS CHARLES. WREN DIDN’T WANT TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE HE FELL IN LOVE WITH MELISSA. THIS CAUSED A BIT OF TENSION BETWEEN THE BROTHERS. AND SO THEY DIDN’T TALK MUCH.
CECE FIGURED OUT WHO THEY WERE AND USED IT AGAINST THEM TO GET THEM IN ON HER GAME. PRETENDING TO BE CECE. UP UNTIL SHE FINALLY CAME CLEAN ABOUT BEING CHARLES.
CHARLOTTE DIDN’T CARE FOR HER BIRTH MOTHER. BUT SHE DID HER BIRTH FATHER SINCE KENNETH TREATED HER SO BADLY. SHE THEN GREW CLOSE TO HER BROTHERS. SHE ALSO MADE SURE THEY HATED MARY TOO.
MARY DOES NOT KNOW WHO THE BOYS REALLY ARE. THE LAST TIME SHE SAW THEM THEY WERE KIDS. SHE CALLED HIM ELLIOTT MEANING SHE DOESN’T KNOW HIS ACTUAL NAME.
WHO IS WREN’S FATHER YOU ASK? ARCHER DUNHILL. THE BROTHERS HAVE BEEN USING HIS NAME AS AN ALIAS.
BUT THE LIARS JUST KILLED WREN’S BROTHER AND HE’S GONNA BE PISSED.
The only problems are obviously that Elliott and Charlotte kissed but since Elliott isn’t his actual name who is to say Charlotte didn’t kiss someone else and this is just set up?