Damon needs to back off his high horse sometimes, but so does Elena. Sometimes she's just so self-righteous, and together I'd think she and Stefan would drive each other nuts, them and their moralizing platitudes. Elena and Stefan have journal writing, brooding, and self-righteousness. They make me think of a boring old couple. They are too similar, their personalities and reactions. I don't understand why I would want to watch the two of them when it seems like there's no growth, no fire...
The issue I have with anons like you who say things like this is that it just feels like you guys don’t watch the show.
Sometimes she’s just so self-righteous, and together I’d think she and
Stefan would drive each other nuts, them and their moralizing
When did this happen though? This doesn’t look like a couple who drives each other nuts because of their “moralizing platitudes”
Elena and Stefan have journal writing, brooding, and self-righteousness.
Legit, JP said that the narrative need for Stefan and Elena writing in their respective journals disappeared because they found each other to confide in:
Julie Plec: In the beginning of the series it was very important to have the journals because the two of them didn’t have anybody to talk to about their deepest feelings. Stefan is alone and caring this huge secret and needed an outlet for that. Elena was spiritually alone in that she’d lost her parents and didn’t feel like anybody really understood what she was feeling and where she was coming from, and so they were able to express themselves on paper. But the minute they felt in love they had each other. He doesn’t need to write something down if he doesn’t keep secrets from her, and she can express herself to him, she can open herself up to him, so the actual dramatic need for the journals diminished just by definition of putting those two into a relationship. (source)
And you can see that in their relationship:
They make me think of a boring old couple.
I mean, I guess.
I don’t understand why I would want to watch the two of them when it seems like there’s no growth
You guys mistake constant arguing for growth because Stefan and Elena consistently grow with each other, that’s the point.
They push each other to feel the things they don’t want to feel, they push each other to be better people, they push each other to be vulnerable, they push each other to push themselves and they do, that’s what growth is, that’s not trying to turn someone into someone they’re not, that’s not finding them good enough as they are, that’s not being moralistic to a destructive degree, that’s challenging each other and instigating development and growth. Literally.
Also DErs keep mentioning “fire” but what fire did Damon and Elena really have? They just both looked exhausted and over it:
And their sex scenes are pretty muted. So if you don’t like SE that’s whatever, do you, but you’re projecting things onto them that aren’t actually there.