how is it “self-flagellating” to criticize our community for our antiblackness? how is it “self-flagellating” to say that far too many in the east asian community think that we’ve assimilated into whiteness when we’ve been whittled down to “ninja kungfu fighting” caricatures with “funny” accents by the very same people we keep whitesplaining for? don’t come to me with your analysis on how we’re second class citizens to white people and then stay quiet when it comes to antiblackness among our own. you’ll yell to the heavens about needing “poc solidarity” because you want black people to do the fighting for you and in the same breath talk about how it isn’t our job to address their suffering. news flash: black people don’t owe us anything and antiblackness hurts us too. poc solidarity is a myth because of our silence about the suffering of black people.
it’s frustrating when us people belonging to the diaspora spend a lot of time convincing people that our countries are “advanced” or romanticizing aspects of “our” countries when the people that actually live in those countries themselves are demanding change on the daily.
it’s almost like when we spend time talking about how great (for example) pakistan is and decrying all criticism towards pakistan we also end up throwing actual, native pakistanis making the same criticisms under the bus. People that have been born in and lived in pakistan for their entire lives can tell you about their struggles and how much they want change and their grievances with the state, and a thousand miles away diaspora kids will talk about how negative portrayals of pakistan are a western phenomenon…while actual pakistanis are the ones making those criticisms.
We talk over ACTUAL indians/pakistanis/bangladeshis etc all the live long day and we should just remember that the problems of south asians in south asia should take precedence over whatever love story we have with our “home” countries that we treat like vacation spots.
Hello :) first of all, thank you all for your hard work. The gist of my question is whether or not it would be inappropriate in my story for people to use weapons that technically don't align with their own ethnicity (and that don't have significant ceremonial or religious significance). For example, would it be ok for a black character to wield a samurai sword, a latina character to use a katar (a south asian dagger), for a white character to use a kukri (a Nepalese knife), etc.
Wielding Weapons from Different Cultural/Ethnic Groups
I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn’t think so, depending on the context. How did your characters come across these weapons, for one thing? That would be an answer that would probably be critical in deciding whether or not something was problematic.
There are no blanket rules in regards to culture and appropriation.(e.g.“no African diaspora warriors with katanas!”) but rather make sure the context supports an idea vs. just being there for exoticism and coolness factors.
Right! Like are they using a kukri because it suits their fighting style best? Because the person they trained with preferred kukris? Also, diaspora exist. We’ve talked about Yasuke, the African samurai before. There are many cases where people immigrate and assimilate. Context matters.
but if you really wanna act like that movie could have been made in the U.S. by an African American slave-descended director or screenwriter
and received the same amount of institutional support and publicity
when Danny Glover had to leave the fucking country to get funds for his movie about Haiti
and when the last major movie about slavery was a fucking Tarantino spaghetti western that had as its narrative and dramatic climax NOT the killing of the slave owner but the torture and murder of a Black slave (samuel l jackson’s character)
(seriously. that’s the note that movie ends on. and jamie foxx’s character wasn’t even the one who killed the slave maser, of course a white person had to do that too)
be my guest. just don’t demand expect the rest of us to live in la-la land with you.
what does it mean when ‘the homeland’ does not feel like home at all?
I know what it means - it means that when you don’t grow up somewhere, it makes total sense to not feel the same sense of attachment to it as someone who did grow up there would.
but idk!!! for a while i felt so out of place bc it seemed like 'authenticity’ was measured in ~activist spaces~ or whatever as like, a real desire for the homeland, for feeling home in the homeland, etc
but I know with so much of me that that could never happen for me. going back to india, to keep it to the truest sense of homeland, would be nothing like here for me (i know for other people it would be different, just cuz of where you’d be living, but u know)
and all my memories of trying to speak malayalam are just full of like shame and being made fun of (which for sure was magnified by being a self conscious kid but i mean, come on, what kid doesn’t find that hurtful). how is that home?
and i grew up here. and everyone i love is here. (w/ the exception of extended family. but isn’t that a different kind of love? i don’t really know them, you know). and 99% of what I know i learned here.
this is why i found it kind of hard to believe that people were really being real about all that talk about the homeland even though i know other people’s experiences are different and i shouldn’t be a jerk lol
hey, don’t hide behind the term hyphenated-Chinese and talk about diaspora like you are the only one who’s experienced it. As a Chinese (CN) american with a background in Asian American studies, this is all I studied for four years. You can whip out your arguments about the yellow peril, foreign imperialism, asian diaspora etc etc all you want, but guess what. your opinion still does NOT equal the opinion of CNCN. The fact that we grew up in a foriegn country, disqualifies us to speak for the CNCN group. We are Chinese people, with the culture of a hyphenated-CN, because unless we were completely removed from society, then our opinions will be biased by the group/country we grew up with and will not be the same as CNCN. Do we get to make a statement about China? Yes, but not as CNCN, because that’s a different group of people who grew up with different education, societal norms etc etc than us. 别断章取义强盗逻辑-R (not speaking for other CNCN admins, just my personal opinion as a hyphenated CN)。
i dont actuallly have anything against the actual dances or music but
but hearing the words ‘bhangra’ or 'garba’ make me just not pay attention anymore (either that or get mildly annoyed) bc its boring that those are the only “south asian” (yeah cuz bhangra and garba together represents all of the region(s) amirite) things that exist on a large scale
do what u want just dont pretend ur doin something awesomely new when u make it an event for ur club
also i will use any chance i get to hate on the “south asian” american club on campus so this post is also dedicated to hatin on them