destiel ''evidence''

CASTIEL AND HIS SACRED OATH - 12x10, 12x12, 12x23

This scene here. This split second glance is so so important. I don’t know why people aren’t talking about it (I couldn’t even find any gifs of it and had to take pictures coz I’m computerly incompitent). But I wanted to give my own analytical response to this millisecond glance, because I think it demonstrates properly why Cas has never done anything about his feelings for Dean. 

First, some context from my behalf: I always assumed Cas had never admitted his love for Dean for one of two reasons, 1) he was an angel, therefore not quite understanding his feelings himself - perhaps confusing them with familial love, Dean style. Or 2) he was afraid his love may not be reciprocated. But after watching 12x10, 12x12 and 12x23, I can thoroughly rule out reason 1. 

Now, I’ll be talking a lot about 12x10 as that ENTIRE EPISODE and THIS LOOK are so closely correlated. 

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About that neck touch...

So after spending way more of my life than is probably healthy looking at and analyzing every single shot from this episode that could possibly be construed at Destiel-related, even a TINY BIT, I realized that there is one shot people seem to not discuss very much…

Now. I know what you’re saying–”but we’ve TALKED about the hand-holding!” And yes, my friends, hands touching are always worth discussing (and discussing…and discussing…), but what I want to talk about is Dean’s OTHER hand…

Now…I am a theater child. I grew up doing shows. And I know that actors tend to be touchy-feely people, even when they are just friends. It’s what they do. My friends and I had no problem treating one another like armchairs half of the time, sitting in one another’s laps, leaning our heads on each others’ shoulders. So whenever people start pointing at some of these touches as evidence of Destiel, one part of me gets very excited, while the other part says “now hang on, you and your friends totally did this same stuff and it didn’t mean anything other than that you were friends.”


In this shot, Dean doesn’t JUST touch Cas’s hand, or even his back. From what I can see of this shot, he puts his hand on the lower part of Cas’s neck. Now even I, my touchy-feely-theater-person-self, would never have touched the back of a friend’s neck. That is just getting a little bit too intimate for friendship. That is not what friends do, even the most lovey ones.

That is what my boyfriend does.

Note, too, how Dean’s hand lingers on Cas’s neck (or upper back, as he does seem to slide it down slightly after the initial contact). He maintains contact until Cas breaks it to turn around, a gesture of comfort both for Cas and himself, of reminding himself that Cas is here and is really okay.

Folks, this is not the touch of someone who is just a friend, nor is it an unintentional gesture made by actors who are just doing what touchy people do. This is the gesture shared by two characters who are much, much closer than just friends. And it, even more than the hand-clasping, set my heart to fluttering :).

Neil Gaiman/Terry Pratchett’s “Good Omens” and the evidence that Destiel has always been real

I don’t know how many of you are fans of Neil Gaiman, but I’m sure you know how much the general idea for “Supernatural” and its plotlines was inspired by Neil Gaiman’s works. Like, his Lucifer is literally based on David Bowie (so yeah, Lucifer is a glam rockstar deep down); Tessa the Reaper looks a lot like Death from Sandman; Cain is a prominent character there; Abaddon’s look is suspiciously similar to WAR from “Good Omens”, SPN’s Death looks a bit like Famine in the same book - practically the whole Apocalypse in season 4-5 is based on the plot of that book. Sandman starts with a bunch of people summoning Death. And so on, and so on.

So, beware, because I will spoiler the shit out of “Good Omens”, but I would like to show you how I believe they always were very deliberate with Destiel from very early in the show. 

The two main characters in “Good Omens” are demon named Crowley (yes, our Crowley inherited his name) and an angel Aziraphale. They met in the Garden of Eden, where Aziraphale was practically Gadreel, guarding the gate, and Crowley was the snake. Unexpectedly, they became frenemies, and now, six millenia later, they are best friends officially, but most of the time they seem more like a very unusual married couple.

Crowley likes well-taylored leather jackets, wearing shades inside, and to drive his super cool, old black car. Most days he pretends that he is more of a badass than he actually is - demons don’t really respect you if you don’t show them your tough, smooth-talking facade - but mostly he would just like to travel, walk through a park, feed ducks, eat good food, drink wine, and talk for hours, with the angel Aziraphale - instead of doing evil hell business, ever. 

The cool image is everything in hell, but once his angel is in trouble, our demon has no problem running into flaming buildings, screaming his name like a crazy person, and falling apart when his angel seems to demise.

Crowley also listens only to “Best of Queen” while driving, because somehow all his tapes turn into the classic rock album when left in his car for longer than a fortnight (you think Dean has a similar problem, and all of his Taylor Swift tapes turn into AC/DC?) He has a soft spot for pot-plants, a nice apartment downtown, and he generally just wants a quiet life with his angel, far from the heaven or hell business.


Aziraphale is a badass angel when he needs to be, handling flaming swords and such, but on everyday basis he is an old-book lover who owns a little second-hand book shop in London. This beautiful description of him says it all really:

“Many people, meeting Aziraphale for the first time, formed three impressions: that he was English, that he was intelligent, and that he was gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide. Two of these were wrong; Heaven is not in England, whatever certain poets may have thought, and angels are sexless unless they really want to make an effort. But he was intelligent. And it was an angelic intelligence which, while not being particularly higher than human intelligence, is much broader and has the advantage of having thousands of years of practice.”

Yeah, except for the English part, this could be Cas. 

Aziraphale is the one who seems more gay in this odd couple, but Crowley definitely seems to be more openly emotional about his angel. When Armaggedon started to unfold, and everything seemed to go to hell (not literally, but almost), it is Crowley who calls Aziraphale a lot, and gets hurt when the angel doesn’t answer, or seems too busy to talk; it is Crowley who eventually loses his angel and tries to find him for several chapters, showing great emotional distress. Again, SOMEONE WE KNOW???

AND THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE BOOK EVERYTHING IN THEIR EMOTIONAL STORYLINE STAYS IN THE SUBTEXT. Neil Gaiman said that it’s up to his readers to decide if the relationship is romantic or not - he only said it probably wasn’t sexual since angels and demons (ex-angels) are sexless. But you know, “unless they really want to make an effort”, so who knows? Anyway, we got a green light from the authors to ship them as husbands, so we do.

This has been, for the longest time, my biggest Destiel anchor in the sea of gaslighting from the cast and crew. Because Eric Kripke is A FAN OF THIS BOOK TO THE POINT THAT HE STOLE SEVERAL STORYLINES FROM IT. And the rest of the writers are too - the Megatron/Metatron joke in season 7 is also from it! And the whole Nephilim storyline.

You are not telling me that when you base your TV show on a book with a subtextual romance between an asexual angel and a guy in a cool, old, black car who pretends to be cooler than he is, and somehow your TV show seems to have a subtextual romance between an asexual angel and a guy in a cool, old, black car who pretends to be cooler than he is, IT’S A FREAKIN’ ACCIDENT! Because you know, accidents don’t happen accidentally.

I am POSITIVE they decided that Destiel was real the moment they realised Misha is not going anywhere, but they put it in the subtext for safety, and because that’s what Kripke saw in his favourite book. And no one will ever tell me it hasn’t been there since as early as the end of season 4. So, yeah.

Tomorrow: “Good Omens” and the Nephillim. Because the new writing crew are also fans of the book.

Ok so this is the destiel evidence I have gathered over the past 2 days from making my mum and grandma watch 12.19 with me
  • Mum: *starts laughing at mixtape scene*
  • Me: what
  • Mum: they're just so in love
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  • Me: grandma have you ever received a mixtape in a non romantic way
  • Grandma: no they're usually a romantic gesture
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  • Me: *makes grandma watch mixtape scene*
  • Me: I think it's for definite that at least Cas is in love with Dean
  • Grandma: yes I think he's definitely in love with him I'm not sure about the other bloke though.
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  • Me: grandma thought that Cas is in love with Dean but she wasn't sure about the other bloke which I think is probably true I think deans a bit oblivious
  • Mum: no I think he's in love with him too, I don't think he knows he's in love with him but I think he definitely is.
  • Me: yeah lol I think that's probably the case
  • Mum: yes it was very gay
  • Me: right!!
The arguement for Dean/Cas

So Dean Winchester is bisexual, and this right here sums it up really well.

Now that you’ve accepted Dean’s fluid sexuality, time to make my case about Destiel.

  • First off, Profound Bond.

  • “I killed two angels this week, some of my brothers. I’m hunted, I’ve rebelled,and I did it, all of it, for you.”

  • ‘One of the oldest romantic tropes in the book, is watching the object of your affection sleep. Which Castiel has done multiple times, one time even asking what Dean had been dreaming about…

Dean has done it in return; even in the middle of an apocalypse he didn’t fail to point out that Cas was adorable when he was sleeping, even when Cas sleeping was actually a sign that something was not right in the world

  • Another popular romantic trope where one pines as they’re watching the other without them knowing

  • The exact same trope that was used for Sam/Jess that was used for Destiel, them hallucinating the beloved one they’d lost

  • Another romantic trope: touching the face of the one you love

  • The crypt scene. The ‘I need you’ that the writers had planned to be an ‘I love you’, even confirmed by Jensen Ackles.-Jensen said that it wasn’t Dean’s style to just come out and say it, so he changed the line. It was the I need you I love you  that broke the mind control

  • Remember the other ‘I need you’ in Purgatory. This ‘I need you’ was not based on Dean needing Cas to get out of Purgatory. Cas was a complication when it came to leaving that place, not an asset. Yet Dean needed him, and refused to go on with out him. 

    Dean even altered his own memories because he couldn’t stand the thought of Cas not wanting to stay with him.’

  • Dean checking on Cas before Sam.

Dean also forgave Cas for hurting Sam (When he broke his wall). Name one other person, let alone a supernatural being, that has ever had that privilege.

  • Dean keeping the trenchcoat. Dean doesn’t, in general, keep soggy goo-ridden momentos of his dead friends. Reminiscent military widows, and the folding of the flag in honor of their service.

  • Everyone else ships it

We’ve already established Dean as representative of humanity…

-pregnant pause-

  • Those flirty moments:

Sam’s face totally says he’s your angel, you deal with it.

  • With all the eye sex:

  • And the personal space issues (I’ll only briefly touch on those, there’s a lovely post about it here)

  • What heterosexual ‘best friends only’ bromates not only knows the other’s porn preference, but buys it as an apology?

  • Or this moment, when Dean describes how good sex feels, and how bad it has started to feel always leaving after.

Originally, this episode was set to air directly after the episode with Cas as a gas station clerk. In that episode, Cas presumably spends the night in Dean’s hotel room (because he doesn’t go back to the store where he had been sleeping until morning) and then they reluctantly part ways again in the morning.

It’s not that far of a stretch to say he was thinking about Cas having to leave again.

  • Remember Anna?

She was originally slated to be the ‘angel on Dean’s shoulder’, with her prepped to be Dean’s romantic endgame. Well, everyone liked Cas better, so they switched their roles…

  • How about Dean leaving a greenhorn hunter to deal with monster-infested Chicago, because Cas called?

  • How all the supernatural creatures know that the way to get to Cas is to get Dean.

  • Cas chosing Dean over duty, family, and literally a whole host of people depending on him (when Dean was being accused of murder)

  • Cas longingly telling Sam he misses Dean…while lounging in bed naked.

  • Speaking of lounging in bed, this is Dean’s bedroom before Cas was human

And after Cas was supposed to be living with them at the bunker.

‘Look how he’s set up on the bed. That pillow is normally in the center. But now? Off to one side, as if there should be another pillow beside him. As if there should be someone sharing his bed (and his life) with him. Someone who is absent. Someone’s whose absence is very much felt right now. I could be reading WAY too much into this but…knowing this show this was very VERY deliberate.’

‘I was just thinking that, actually.  And from a film perspective, that’s actually a very odd position to be in, not even taking into account the fact that the pillow is usually center.  Usually when someone is lying on a bed like this, they’re positioned in the center because otherwise the shot is off balance.  Whereas this shot is almost purposefully off-balance, in a way that’s very attention grabbing.  I mean, that’s only a full sized bed, not even a queen, so that’s not actually a natural place to lie down- he looks almost like he’s about to fall off the bed, given the lighting and the dark color of his clothes.  So this show has been deliberately set up to draw attention to the fact that there’s nobody lying next to him, that there’s no pillow for anyone else- yet the space is there, the blanket and the nightstand, perfect for someone who is already sharing his life.’

When the pros were tweeted, asking if that was done on purpose

  • The ingredients for the spell to close Heaven-a cupid’s bow, a Nephilim, and an angel’s grace. Now a cupid’s bow is self-explanatory. A Nephilim is the result of love between an angel and a human. Metatron’s a writer. There’s no way he didn’t chose Castiel’s grace specifically to fit the story. With two other ingredients pertaining to love, what could possibly be the reason he chose Cas? Even if you say it’s his love for humanity…well, we’ve already established that might as well be Dean’s middle name.

  • Speaking of the 'L’ word, the beginning song of season 9 was “Who do you love?” with many various cuts directly from Dean to Cas in the montage. ‘Songs, as you know, are chosen for a reason on Supernatural, and this one framed the season for us: the question is asked explicitly, right from the start: who do you love? The song seems like an odd choice for the season opener of the show – unless, of course, love (in all its forms) is to be a major theme of the season. Shippers noticed right away that the editors of this musical video tribute to seasons past (and particularly the events of season eight) gave us one possible answer: Castiel, his entrances timed perfectly with the question at hand, every time. Who do you love, and how?’
  • Cas also always immediately recognizes when there’s something wrong with Dean. With the mark of Cain

  • And in 2014, when he automatically knows he’s Past Dean

Speaking of 2014, there’s a few more saucily suggestive gems

And there’s the fact that he goes in to die, as a distraction, because Dean says so.

  • Charlie describing Cas is suspect. She only knows what Cas looks like through the Carver Edlund books, and Dean’s description. She’s a lesbian. Why would she get that he’s ‘dreamy’ from a book description? Sounds like Dean was waxing a little poetic there…

You know, as he does. Because Dean describing other people is bare facts: height, weight, etc. Describing Cas

  • Or how Dean went from


Unabashedley piecemealed from other people’s posts in places, here
’s credit for as much of it as I can X, X, X


My mother watched 13x05 and 13x06 with me and when I said “AHHHH THE GAY. WHY PAL?!?!?! BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN!!!!!!!”

She then looked at me like I was insane and said Dean wasnt gay bc he woke up with a bra in 13x05 and they would never make an angel gay.

She’s not homophobic, but she can’t see the gay. I wanna prove her wrong. Repost with evidence!!!!!


I Don’t Think I Could Understand Dean and Cas’ Relationship If This Wasn’t Going Towards a Romantic One

From the end of a long Destiel-evidence post from 4 years ago (2013, season 8) you can find here.

my note:

There is no-one else

They have the history, the chemistry, the undeniable need for each other to live, to die for each other, and to continue being an important part of each other’s lives. 

Supernatural’s END needs to be either:

-  They all die, together

-  They all live on, together - including concrete evidence that Dean and Cas have or will take the next step towards each other in whatever you wanna call their relationship 

(I call it soulmates)

At first, I felt really sorry for people who liked Misha because he’s stringing them along with false hope of a vile ship becoming canon on the show.

Then I thought well those fans deserve the inevitable disappointment if they fail to see the bigger picture and the obvious evidence that Destiel will never go canon.  Plus all that bullying and harassment really didn’t win points with me.

Then I found myself feeling wee bit sorry for Misha because 1) his own fans don’t care about him unless Jensen is within 5 feet of him 2) most of his side money-making projects have failed and he had to resort to poaching onto the AKF brand to line his own pockets 3) his popularity have declined to the point that Creation is giving away free Cas related merchs.

Then the E!News little video tribute to SPN happened and it’s Oh that’s right, now I remember why I shouldn’t feel sorry for Destiehllers, minions, or Misha.  Good job!


Look at this.  

This is basically the entire scene.  I cut Donna saying the boys were there to help, but this is the extent of Doug’s introduction–every moment he is shown.

This is all it takes for Dean and Sam (and evidently viewers) to recognize romance/attraction between a hetero couple. 

And I’m just sitting here with this veritable mountain of Destiel evidence like….

I Found This Parallel to be Quite Intriguing (9x16)

So, in Blade Runners, Crowley said this,

Which is quite interesting because, you know,

And Sam reacted sort of the same way Soulless!Sam reacted to Dean and Cas’ profound bond. Honestly, I don’t think Sam likes bonding all that much.

Crowley seems to be quite fine with it, though.


It’s just last time I talked to my mom about this, she kept saying “But are you sure?" and ”Can’t they just be friends, [insert my name]?“ even though I’ve sent her a link to one of my more anthem of posts, ”I Don’t Think I Could Understand Dean and Cas’ Relationship If This Wasn’t Going Towards a Romantic One“, and I’ve shown her a bunch of evidence on it. I feel like this could be a good way to do this.

Reblog this.

Like this.

Post comments on your reasoning.

Heck, post a gif or a scene.

Whatever you feel. I just want to gage who believes in Dean and Cas so I can show my mom that she shouldn’t be that skeptical. That I’m not crazy thinking this and not the only one who thinks this.

  • what she says: "i'm fine"
  • what she means: i could honestly write an entire fucking novel on the evidence of destiel and how it is, indeed, canon, with sources from the cast, producers, and lines and parallels throughout the history of the show---