data mining dreams

EDIT II: This post has been going around as definite proof that the Cult Ending is fact, and the real way the game works. As such, I’ve been accused of spreading misinformation, to a degree that I’ve been getting extremely toxic and damaging messages.

I want to clarify at this point, this post was made as a vent, back when the data-mine of the Cult End was beginning, and we first got the info that it was a file in the game. The Data-Mine is pretty much finished now, at this point; nothing new to find. And it’s revealed that, while the ending is in a playable state, no coding in the game actually makes it possible to play it. There’s no outcome you can get to trigger this end.

No one is sure if this is a cut ending, future DLC, or if it’s a bug messing up the coding trigger. All we know is we found it, and I made a post too hasty in assumption. I made it when we still thought it was possible to achieve.

So please. Take this with a grain of salt. I don’t want to delete this post, as I feel like it would give the bad impression that I simply wanted to spread fire, with no care for repercussions. But I do want people to know I’ve learned now.

I’m sorry to everyone that I deceived with this. It wasn’t my intention at all, but execution doesn’t always pan out like we hope.


EDIT III: Good god, how often am I going to be updating this post.

Well, we have verification the ending isn’t as scrapped as we thought it was.

An update patch for Dream Daddy to fix bugs and add Robert’s Whittling minigame also secretly updated the coding of the Cult Ending. This info was found VIA data-mining the Level18 files as they were before and after.

The updated files include more trigger codings, and has added the achievement trigger for what we presume is “Escape the Margarita Zone,” as it is listed as “ACHIEVEMENT_SECRET.”

While it doesn’t necessarily mean the ending is definitely going to be playable in the future, it does make the ending’s chances of becoming a possible canon that much more of a reality.


Man. The reveal of what Joseph actually is both amazes and horrifies me further than what we’ve seen.

Okay, so data-mining revealed that Joseph does have a good ending, but it’s not much different from the bad. He still remains with Mary, but he takes you in as a side-man (AKA, he stays with you to continue an affair on Mary.) It’s not very good either, so I won’t be surprised to see people voice disappointment when they get it.

HOWEVER, data-mining found something even worse in the code. And that is Joseph has a third ending, a secret ending, and potentially, the TRUE ending of not only his route, but the game entirely. This ending has been dubbed “cult ending.”

This ending ended up revealing that Joseph is not at all what he seems. He’s not a man living a broken marriage, forcing himself to stay with an alcoholic and cheating wife to have some semblance of a family life with his kids. No, this family he’s created is simply a facade to hide who he is.

Joseph isn’t human. He some sort of demonic entity that has an ulterior motive. His children aren’t truly his children in the sense that you’d assume, they’re more like broken portions of himself, inhabiting child-like forms. And Mary is a woman who was forced to play a role to paint a picture, an illusion. Something she can’t escape from, because Joseph literally has her wrapped around his finger.

Joseph also is a leader of a cult (Obviously, given the fact that this ending is dubbed “cult end.”) I’m not too knowledgeable about the cult, but apparently it’s a front to rituals and the like. We know Robert was, at one point, a part of the cult, but isn’t any longer.

And finally, we know Joseph is drawing forth energy from other single dads, possibly both sexually and ritualistically, to bring the “Eternal King” back to life. He specifically needs the energy from single dads, and with some sort of dark magic, he lures them to his part of town for ease of access. He also is responsible for causing the events of them all being single. Every single dad, he influenced their destinies to fuel his own ambitions.

And once you find this out, you start noticing shit everywhere! There’s symbols of his cult in practically every part of town. Certain behaviors give an odd feeling. It’s just… it’s shocking to go back in to see this.

The cult end finishes with a man name Saul Graves coming to speak to you, and telling you to try and live your life normally. I’m not sure the entirety of the end, I guess it implies Joseph is on the run now? I don’t know, if anyone can clarify it, let me know.

Now, this was a beyond shocking twist to a lot of people. Especially since the game is so comedic, and the other routes, while they may have poignant moments, it’s nothing completely horrifying. I know I certainly was beyond stunned to discover this, but I honestly had a feeling something would happen like this. Though I wasn’t expecting it to actually be Joseph’s route to cause this; I thought it would’ve been a route where you don’t date any dads!

And I know that there’s some speculation that the “cult end” isn’t truly canon (As in, Joseph isn’t actually in a cult or is a demon, it’s just there for intrigue) and is just a dream end. But the fact you start noticing shit after experiencing the end, imagery and encounters, it just… I really can’t see this as being nothing but the truth. Even if you don’t get the ending where you find out what Joseph truly is, he’s still a demonic entity with dark motives, influencing the town and its people to his goals.

And then there’s something that’s honestly quite saddening to think. It’s because of the fact that, even if you don’t get the cult end, it doesn’t change what Joseph is. He’s using single dads’ energy to summon his King to the world. He SPECIFICALLY needs single dads. He has caused all of the other dads to lose their significant other to further his goals, from divorce to death. He’s the reason they’re single in the first place.

Because of this, you pairing up with a dad doesn’t give me a good feeling. Because he needs the dads to be single to draw their energy. And he doesn’t care about “true love” or “good ends.” He’ll tear you apart to forward his goals.

Joseph doesn’t care if Craig’s ending was the cutest thing anyone’s experienced. Joseph doesn’t care if you truly have a connection to Mat.

He needs you two to be single to feed off of you both. And he knows how to break you two apart without anyone ever expecting a thing.

Basically, the reveal of what Joseph is makes me look in fear at all of the other dads, look in fear of their good ends. Because even if it’s a happy end we experienced in what we saw, it implies it’s not meant to last. Down the road, we’ll either be broken up by Joseph’s influences, or he’ll influence one of our’s deaths.

And we won’t think anything odd about it. We’ll just think it didn’t work out, or that life is a cruel mistress.

This is so sinister, like I both love it for the intrigue, but hate it because I genuinely wanted cute moments, and now knowing what Joseph is, I can’t see them as cute anymore. I can’t see myself being happy with any of the Dad’s routes, because there’s that looming thought that it’ll just end in sadness again.

Fucking christ. I didn’t sign up for Dream Daddy to be this dark.


EDIT: This post really blew up, to the point that people are wondering if I’m making shit up due to lack of sources. I wasn’t intending this to get big, it was a vent/personal post, with at most some theories on implications that I thought would get lost to the various other posts people make. I made a reblog showing links that give more info, but for future people that find the post, here are various links on the info we have on the route.

Here’s some images found that pertain to this ending.

Here’s a transcript of how the route goes, from people descrambling the code. Also contains some more images.

Better quality textures of “Cultist Joseph.”

And finally, here’s how people did the data-mine.

List of every Dadvice in Dream Daddy

“Don’t forget to floss every day”,
“It’s never too early to invest in a personal IRA”,
“Start building credit as early as possible”,
“Stand up for yourself - don’t let anyone disrespect you”,
“Everyone needs to know how to use power tools”,
“Don’t trust anyone who likes their meat well done”,
“LaserDisc is clearly the superior digital video format”,
“Drink a full glass of water in the morning to help wake up”,
“Don’t use metal utensils on nonstick frying pans”,
“If you’re parking uphill, be sure to turn your tires toward the street”,
“It’s rude to ask people about their mysterious hand tattoos”,
“Moving Pictures is hands down the best Rush album”,
“Buy quality, not quantity”,
“Shave with the grain”,
“You always have time for a beer with your buds”,
“Always use a coat of wax after a wash”,
“Nothing can beat reading in print”,
“Always carry a pocket knife”,
“Use your hips when throwing”,
“Keep your word”,
“Eat a lot of broccoli”,
“Drinking too much water can cause water intoxication”,
“Take care of your health while you’re still young”,
“Always help a friend in need”,
“Drink plenty of water”,
“Exercise regularly and you’ll stay healthy!”,
“Don’t eat too close to your bedtime”,
“Always check the card reader at ATMs before you swipe”,
“Medicine is not always the best medicine”,
“Always bring a war chest”,
“You’re young, you have your health, now is the time to take risks”,
“You can’t beat the whammy bar”,
“The solo from Kid Charlemagne is the greatest guitar solo ever recorded”,
“Peter Weller actually has a PHD in history”,
“It’s called masking tape for a reason”,
“Trust no one”,
“If you press the ignition too long you’ll just flood the engine”,
“The extended cut is the only cut worth watching”,
“They really stepped up the production value in Episode V”,
“Managing debt is just part of being an adult”,
“Run through the finish line”,
“What you do, when you don’t have to, will determine where you’ll be when you can’t help it”,
“When lifting weights, use proper form and a full range of motion”,
“Gas is cheaper in the suburbs”,
“Do what you love and the money will come”,
“Do it once, do it right”,
“Don’t skip the corners”,
“Eat plenty of carbs the night before a big game”,
“If the police are driving behind you, don’t give them probable cause to pull you over”,
“Try to drive in a way where you never have to use your brakes”,
“You can save bookmarks directly to your desktop”,
“A bird in the hand is better than a bird in the eye”,
“Pet every dog”,
“Have you ever read Rich Dad Poor Dad?”,
“Liquor before beef, you’re in the clear”,
“Go ask your mother”,
“If life gives you lemons, parsley, onion, and eggs… make a really nice omelet”,
“Practice makes permanent”,
“First is the worst, second is the best, third is the one with the hairiest chest”,
“Never give up, never remember”,
“That quirky lab assistant from NCIS just reminds me of you”,
“Whistle while you work”,
“Please remember to call us once in  while”,
“Get whatever job you want, just make sure it includes health insurance”,
“Grow your own vegetables. It’s cheaper, I think”,
“It’s okay if you don’t come in first, just make sure you have health insurance”,
“Try to exercise regularly”,
“Sleep is important! Make sure you’re getting enough”,
“It’s okay to cry if you’re feeling sad”,
“Make sure to sweep under your tent so you don’t sleep on rocks”,
“Good tire pressure is essential to optimal mileage”,
“The only acceptable time and place for decaf coffee is never and in the trash”,
“When changing a tire, make sure to tighten the bolts in a starfish pattern”,
“Anyone who tells you that a drink isn’t manly has never known heartache”,
“Call someone if you’re thinking about them. They probably want to hear from you”,
“If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”,
“Don’t smoke”,
“Try not to make assumptions about people”,
“Don’t trust gas station egg sandwiches”,
“Please don’t pirate games”,
“It’s better to be early than late”,
“Eat a balance meal everyday that includes vegetables, fruit and proteins”,
“Minimize eating fried foods, candy, and sweets”,
“Treat people better than they treat you”,
“Be generous and kind to everyone”,
“Always try your best at everything”,
“Spend less money than you make”,
“Pay your bills early”,
“Look at situations positively”,
“Always try to make others around you happy”,
“Smile as often as you can, it will make others around you feel more comfortable”,
“You’re never too busy or important to be kind to others”

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Major discoveries in the Cult Ending patch files • r/DreamDaddy
So I did a comparison test between pre-patch level 18 (cult ending) and post-patch And it leads me to believe that even if the cult ending might...

Guys. Dream Daddy had an update today, mostly to fix bugs and make Amanda’s Bad End easier to get. But, turns out, data-mining has found that the patch ADDED stuff to the Cult End. Examples being new lines of code that wasn’t there before, and apparently even new poses, primarily for Saul.

I’m going to wait and see if there’s going to be posts to show these new poses, if they’re true. But uh… this is pretty massive. No one knows if this means the Cult Ending is possible to get now, but it definitely shows that Cult Ending isn’t quite as scrapped as it may have been lead to be believed.