Theory: How Seven Knows It’s a Game+Why He Doesn’t Remember Unknown
This theory is a continuation from V’s Disappearance ft 707, so if you haven’t checked it out, I’ll ask you to do so first before continuing ^^
WARNING: VERY LONG POST/THEORY EXPLAINING THE WHOLE STORY FROM BEGINNING TO END. SO OF COURSE, MAJOR SPOILERS.
This post is about a theory that covers the following:
-The Reset Theory
-What happens to V, Rika, and Saeran after each route (why they don’t capture the RFA members)
-How Seven is able to remember events from the other routes
-But how he’s unable to remember anything pertaining to Unknown
-How the Wizard could be involved *wink wonk*
-And which characters may have had a wish *nudge nudge*
NOTE: Keep in mind that this post will contain definite spoilers from MysMe. However, this theory will have Dandelion aspects *cough* the Wizard *cough*. So already, it will be confusing for people who have not played the game. Yet. But for the MysMe-only fans, you can continue reading up until the part with The Wizard/Reset Theory section before confusion starts settling in…
But it’s highly recommended that you complete AT LEAST ONE ROUTE from Dandelion before continuing with the rest of the post (apart from Jieun’s).
Credit also goes to Choiipo for working together alongside me in forming this post :)
RECAP FROM MY PREVIOUS THEORY/What happens after each route (except for Luciel’s):
The order of the routes go in the following: Yoosung —> Zen —> Jaehee —> Jumin —> 707
-So remember how we came up with a theory where DURING the parties in Zen’s and Jaehee’s routes and AFTER the party in Jumin’s and Yoosung’s routes, V goes to Mint Eye but has no idea that Luciel is secretly following him?
AFTER THE PARTY IN YOOSUNG’S ROUTE:
-But before we carry on with this, let’s make another theory.
-Let’s assume that there could’ve been a deadline Rika set for the RFA members to join Mint Eye. And since Saeran and V are the ones in charge of bringing the RFA to Magenta, they could have failed to complete their mission by the deadline. (after all, V was the one to set the date for the party, right?)
-Really, no one in the party is harmed and no one is taken away. Literally nothing happens to anyone despite Saeran promising the RFA that he’ll take them to Paradise ._.
-Why is he unable to do so? Well, both he and V get PUNISHED by Rika for failing to meet the deadline.
-And Luciel see this event unfold before him since he followed V. He finds out that Rika is alive, his brother has been brainwashed, V was lying the entire time etc.
-Among the chaos, V dies and Rika commits suicide (as proven by Zen’s prophetic dream where he dreamed they were walking away from him with their backs turned. He says this in the chatroom before the party in Jaehee’s route)
Who Made the Wish:
-The disciples become afraid and run away, since their savior has died, leaving Luciel and Saeran alone.
-This leads to a fight/argument. As they fight, Saeyoung claims that he didn’t intend to leave Saeran alone with their mom while Saeran claims Saeyoung purposely abandoned him etc.
-As they argue, they become desperate and determined in convincing the other twin is wrong, resulting in having desperate wishes.
-They meet the Wizard.
The Wizard/Reset Theory:
-So introductions are made.
-The Wizard then asks Saeyoung and Saeran their wishes.
-Saeran’s wish would be something like torturing Saeyoung.
-Saeyoung’s wish would be something along the lines of wanting to go back and change his actions of leaving Saeran for the agency.
-But the Wizard says if he were to grant this wish, he would need to “turn back time” (meaning, travel to another timeline since time can’t physically be stopped). And doing this would mean that the RFA will not meet the MC in the future of that timeline…
-So basically, there’s no chance that the MC will meet the RFA in that timeline because:
1. Saeyoung would continue to look after Saeran and reject the idea of being a hacker.
2. Therefore, Rika wouldn’t have taken the chance to take Saeran away and brainwash him.
3. And if Saeran weren’t brainwashed, he wouldn’t have lead the MC to the apartment in the first place.
-Saeyoung would not want that, since the MC is mainly the reason why the RFA started to hold the party again. Really, she made a difference with the RFA, right? Or… would that truly be the case? Could Saeyoung be thinking she’s just as important as Saeran due to her role in the RFA…?
-So the Wizard makes it so that he can give Saeyoung another chance to save Saeran whilst being able to meet the MC starting from “Day 1” which is where the reset theory comes into place.
-This wish is granted and Saeyoung’s memories of “Unknown” are erased in exchange.
-But wait, Saeran has the wish of torturing Saeyoung.
-Well, remember the theory of Seven having feelings for the MC in every route that’s still currently floating around Tumblr right now?
-Now let’s say that the Wizard is aware of this fact because he is the Wizard after all. It’s been proven in Dandelion that he is able to read people’s true feelings and desperate wishes. (Has it been proven….? ._.)
-He uses this fact to his advantage when granting Saeran’s wish. The Wizard grants this wish by resetting the game after each route and ensuring that Luciel’s memories during each of those routes are kept in his memory. This would be the Wizard’s way of torturing Saeyoung.
-Which is where the line from the opening song: “Someone set us up to play in this secret game” comes into place. In my opinion, I think this line refers to the Wizard (I mean, I’m not the only one who feels it would be strange if this line refers to Unknown, right? ._. From what I know in Dandelion and Nameless, the Wizard is the one who likes calling his competitions, “games”).
-This is also a bit like “hitting two birds with one stone” because:
1) He’s granting wishes.
2) He’s having more fun than before since he’s now hosting THREE games at the same time.
-So keep in mind:
-The only memories that are erased from Seven are the ones revolving around Unknown as payment.
-And Saeran’s memories of the events in each of the routes may or may not be erased. However, he is able to still remember Luciel.
DAY 1 (ZEN’S ROUTE):
-Seven wakes up to find that the whole thing restarts and remembers details of Yoosung’s route, and is unable to recall anything about Unknown since his wish was to be able to save Saeran again.
-He also can’t remember following V and seeing Rika and Saeran because it’s one of the memories that’s been taken away by the Wizard since Saeran is a major part of it.
DURING THE PARTY IN ZEN’S ROUTE:
-Basically, the same thing happens over again except this time, this is set DURING the party when Luciel and V aren’t exactly present. Luciel finds out about the existence of Mint Eye from following V. V somehow dies and Rika commits suicide after etc.
-This leaves Saeran and Saeyoung alone.
-The twins are both whisked to the Wizard again, having no memory of him whatsoever since no client is able to remember their meeting with the Wizard after their wish is granted.
-Or…. is that really the case?
-What about the fact that Luciel actually knows it’s a GAME?
-Such as how he tells Zen to not say his backstory in Yoosung’s route and how in a phone call, he congratulates the MC for reaching Jaehee’s good ending?
-One possible answer: the Wizard chooses to not take away his memories of the Wizard himself.
-Why? (SPOILERS FOR THE TRUE STORY OF DANDELION) He wants to show Luciel what it feels like watching the person you love fall in love with a different person each time. He wants Saeyoung to empathize with him and know what it’s like hosting the animals’ competition and “turning back time” after each route. (END OF SPOILERS)
DAY 1 (JAEHEE’S ROUTE):
Seven still remembers everything.
DURING THE PARTY IN JAEHEE’S ROUTE:
The same process with V, Rika, Saeran, and Saeyoung happens again.
DAY 1 (JUMIN’S ROUTE):
Seven still remembers everything.
DAY 10 (WHEN THE MC CALLS HIM)
He finally breaks down and is unable to control his feelings/true emotions with the MC. At this point, he has become desperate and head over heels with the MC after realizing she has picked everyone else except for him.
(SPOILERS FOR THE TRUE STORY OF DANDELION/NAMELESS) This is also exactly the same with Nameless’ feelings. In other words, Saeyoung is going through the same emotional state the Wizard and Nameless is going through as well in their own games. (END OF SPOILERS)
AFTER THE PARTY IN JUMIN’S ROUTE:
The same process with V, Rika, Saeran, and Saeyoung happens again.
DAY 1 (707′S ROUTE)
-So yeah, the whole purpose of this game is to ensure that Luciel is able to get the chance to save Saeran from Rika and V whilst being able to meet the MC starting at Day 1.
-The other purpose is to ensure Saeran’s wish of torturing Seven is granted.
-And now the time has finally come for the MC to choose him.
-Unknown arrives at the apartment only for Luciel to also come along and find out Unknown’s true identity. Compared to the other routes, he is able to find out about Saeran quicker.
-This is when different events start to occur. The whole process with Rika, V, Saeran, and Saeyoung begins to differ from the other routes because:
1. The MC comes along with Saeyoung instead of going to the party.
2. Vanderwood is now involved.
3. Rika, Saeran, and V are now close to achieving their goal, rather than failing unlike in the other routes.
-These events are occurring because of how Vanderwood and the MC are now dragged into the process with Seven, Rika, V, and Saeran, resulting in leading to a different path altogether.
-However, despite the plan going down the way it’s meant to be carried out, Saeran loses it when Rika decides to still punish him for the fact that he refuses to make Saeyoung a member of Mint Eye.
-Remember, Saeran doesn’t remember his wish with the Wizard. And he thinks Luciel still needs to be tortured.
-He shoots his gun, killing V.
-Rika breaks down BUT doesn’t manage to commit suicide because:
-Jumin’s security guards manage to find them in the nick of time and handle the situation.
-Saeran and Saeyoung are unable to confront each other and realize their desperate wishes due to these events.
-This is when the resets stop.
-This is because Saeyoung doesn’t have a wish because Saeran is now safe from Rika and the MC has decided to spend her life next to Saeyoung’s side. He pretty much has everything he needs.
-However, during the time when Saeran is being hospitalized, Saeyoung would have had a wish where he wants Saeran to be healed from his trauma with Rika.
-And Saeran would have had a wish where he wants to instead, die, if he can’t escape from Saeyoung.
-But since both these wishes are pretty much opposing to each other, the Wizard wouldn’t really grant these wishes if it means ruining the other twin’s wish.
-And plus, it would mean all his efforts going to waste from hosting the game, so he promises them that they’ll have a happy ending
(which they do) and doesn’t grant their wishes.
-And the Wizard’s role is not needed anymore. But before he leaves the world of MysMe, he takes away Luciel’s memories revolving around the Wizard himself since:
1. Luciel doesn’t necessarily need to remember him.
2. To replenish a tiny part of the powers he used to host all three games.
-And since the Wizard is a fourth-wall breaker (as proven from Nameless).
-He tampers with Saeyoung’s door and uses it to communicate with the player by thanking them for participating in the game.
-Which is why Saeyoung doesn’t understand why the frick the door would suddenly say that since his memories have been taken.
-The Wizard then continues to observe the other games’ progresses in Dandelion and Nameless.
But that’s just a theory. A game theo- ok, I’ll stop.
NOTE: This has to probably be one of the most important theories out of the rest of my other ones simply because it took quite a while to form this whole theory with the assistance of the wonderful Choiipo. It was a tad difficult making this as we had to ensure there would be no flaws and questions that needed to be answered
(from what we could find)
;;; But thoughts/opinions are appreciated so I would really love it if anyone reblogs ^^ Criticism is also most definitely a plus, as it helps me develop my thoughts and learning as I make these theories :) So for anyone who feels the need to tell me that this has flaws or doesn’t make sense, DON’T HOLD BACK. (but make sure you have evidence, if any).
Heejung: “I’ve been feeling strange around Love Interest for months, I keep wanting to spend time with them and enjoy our time together more than anything. I have no idea what this is. Probably not love. Also I’m a college student on her last year”
Eri: “I don’t dislike physical affection but everytime it happens I act confused and embarrassed, even in private. I never initiate anything.”
MC: “I wanna lick Zen’s abs” “I want Jumin to tie me up” (To Jumin) “I want to do *** with *** while doing ***” “I want Seven to be rough with me” “Zen/Seven, come to the bed with me!” “What if I don’t wanna pull my skirt back down?” “*Tempts Zen*”
The reason why a game like Mystic Messenger has done so well is, even though it’s a 24 hour game with lots of extras, the story is engaging and you really come to feel like you know the characters in just 11 days of interactions.
And every route, you learn something about another character that you didn’t know the previous route and that sometimes can be bad and sometimes can be good.
Cheritz did little to no advertising their game outside of their own tumblr. The game is so good that word of mouth alone did the trick. So good that it brought out haters and put otome games in a spotlight.
People UNINSTALLED THIS GAME and now they are reinstalling it to play an event. That’s crazy when you think about it.
It really does come down to how well you can tell a story and develop your characters. As much as I hate to say it, I really don’t think I’ll see a game do this again. I knew when this game was released and I started playing it, that it was something special and I don’t think Cheritz nor the otome community just knew how special.
Hats off to you, @cheritzteam. I’ll follow you all until the end of time if you continue to put out solid games with good character development!
Oh and say hi to Jang Kim for me cause he’s legit the best. lol
Yo, hmu with a like or reblog or something if you post/share a lot of the following
Cheritz games (Dandelion Wishes, Nameless, Mystic Messenger) The Adventure Zone Yuri on Ice Gangsta Winter Woods Siren’s Lament Hatoful Boyfriend Yowamushi Pedal Dragon Age Baccano! (esp novel related content) Voltron
I need more of this on my dash so looking to follow new folks. I don’t follow someone with a lot of smutty nsfw of reposted art on their blog, sorry :0