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We're accepting of the love that we think we deserve

This quote has been in my head for a long time (I think it’s from a movie or something), and I’m sure it wasn’t meant in this context, but it reminds me of internalized abuse.

Especially now with mega church pastor Creflo Dollar in the news for chocking and beating his daughter - an many of his parishanors speaking out against her calling the police on him… Its really telling to how women, especially black women, are just expected to remain in a certain place or risk physical and emotional abuse. Even with the quote I posted earlier with Beyonce’s praised motherhood vs Erykah Badu’s vilified motherhood - black women get degraded to unspeakable levels for stepping out of such narrowly drawn lines.

Imagine growing up in that life. With controlling fathers and mothers who co-sign that ideology. It’s hard to develop a legitimate belief that you DON’T deserve to be treated that way, or accept that treatment from lovers, friends, society. It’s hard to say “how dare you treat me that way” when that how you’ve always been treated. and its hard to feel safe when you’re used to those you care about hurting you. What does love even mean when abuse is almost always a part of the package anyway? These are things that need to be unlearned - but our society only reinforces these ideas everywhere you turn anyway.

It takes a village to raise a child but if that entire village promotes toxic relationships, abuse and the emotional manipulation of you girls… She’s better off on her own.

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Now this is theology done right!

A GREAT idea from What About Our Daughters blog....

If you’re outraged by the crucification of Creflo Dollar’s daughter, please take time to write a brief thank you note to Sheriff Wayne Hannah whannah@fayettecountyga.gov thanking he and his deputies for answering this young woman’s distress call.

A Black girl was in crisis. They responded.

They didn’t ignore her or throw her under the bus and now they are catching grief about it from the Civil Rights Industrial Complex . It doesn’t have to be a long note just a “Thank you for responding to Creflo Dollar’s daughter’s call for assistance. The Georgia NAACP is wrong.” and leave it at that.

i sent my thank you email this morning :)

Yet Another Reason why the Church is Irrelevant

“Sensibilities toward violence have changed so much that religious people today compartmentalize their attitude to the Bible. They pay it lip service as a symbol of morality, while getting their actual morality from more modern principles.” - Steven Pinker, The Better Angels of Our Nature

And just like that, people forgot about Creflo Dollar almost as quickly as they did Eddie Long.

Yet Creflo Dollar is Creflo Dollar. He is flamboyant, unwavering, arrogant, and bullheaded. If you don’t believe me, do a google search on the audio he flaunts that is a recording of people being tormented in hell. Everyone in his congregation bought it.

The crazy thing about is alleged domestic violence charge is that like Eddie Long, Dollar doesn’t deny anything. Dollar actually says that he should have never been arrested. While it is true that none of us were present and it’s his word against his daughters, Dollar and many religious leaders who not only preach the prosperity gospel but stick the evangelical side of things, believe that no one should mettle in their family’s business. Like many religious leaders and community activists, Dollar feels that family business should remain family business. No one should be airing dirty laundry.

In both Long and Dollar’s court cases, the church as well as the Black and Brown community had an opportunity to discuss sexual and physical abuse, but lost this opportunity in faux black nationalism and religious patriarchy. While both cases have yet to be fully explored in a court of law, both parties have refused to even acknowledge the crimes they have been accused of. Their supporters refused to question anything and the rest of us have forgotten these crimes.

My point isn’t to prove that Long and Dollar are guilty but that we should discuss these issues. We should challenge the church when it comes to abuse and misogyny. Instead we are drowned in outdated scriptures and platitudes. Dollar’s only explanation is to blame the “culture” on individualism and selfishness. We are given parables of false prophets and told that it is the forces of Satan that are invading our homes.

I am clear on the idea that the church was never created to allow debate and criticism. That’s why the leaders are called preachers and the congregants are considered sheep. The church wasn’t built on debate only the consolidation of power. Again, this exclaims that the church is outdated especially in the 21st century whether white or black. Here we had two opportunities to really challenge the church. Instead many of us accepted the nonsense or the church just redoubled their efforts to silence the criticism.

Well, welcome to the terrordome.

"Many times when we don’t see the answer to our prayers, we believe we lack faith. However, at the point of salvation, every Christian received THE measure of faith. The issue is not a lack of faith but the presence of unbelief. Unbelief cancels out faith and renders our prayers ineffective. When we recognize unbelief is in our hearts, we must get rid of it, or it will stop our faith." -Creflo Dollar
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You Call This the Gospel - Wretched TV

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VIDEO: CREFLO DOLLAR DEFENDS A “BROTHER IN CHRIST”

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Atlanta Minister Creflo Dollar is raising a few eyebrows after making remarks in his sermon last Sunday. He referenced a preacher who had been in a “wreck” and criticized members of the preacher’s congregation who left the church because of said-preacher’s wreck. While he didn’t mention the preacher by name, all indicators point to the said “Wreck in effect” being none other than his fresh-off-of-a-lawsuit and fellow Atlanta preacher, Bishop Eddie Long. Check out his remarks and decide for yourself!  SIDENOTE: the comments in the video are from the website pimppreacher.com, who have also stated that Dollar has petitioned Youtube to remove the video,so look quickly!

Creflo Dollar...

Ok SO…. I’m just hearing about this annnnnnd I don’t want to hear peoples opinions on this shit. Especially people that don’t believe in spanking because that’s like asking a vegetarian if they prefer lean beef over regular ole fatty beef… I want to hear as much fact as possible…From what I read there was a situation where his 15year old daughter was upset that she could not go to a party….things escalated to the point where he had pinned her on the ground and spanked her-after she hit him. OK…

I do not think that it is fair that this man was arrested. Nor that his character is under attack. People just always want to jump to conclusons….are you aware that this is a black man with a lot of money who is a leader in the Black Community…so of course the media is going to exaggerate some…-FOX News? Come on son. I do not advocate child abuse once so ever and I’m not even sure that I want to spank my children if I have any….but I do know that you need to respect the man of the house.

A lot of times I hear girls proudly boast, “My father NEVERRRRR put his hands on me!” Etc etc… Often times I see these girls as being the most disrespectful and wild… My mother and my father spanked me as a child and I am not ashamed to say so, in fact I loved my father MORE than my mother when I was little (sorry mom) . My father is very gentle with children , gets along with damn near everyone,and rarely raises his voice. He never allowed us to see him angry or fight lol (when I did I was scared)

I’m sure that Creflo Dollar has given his family a wonderful life… he has his own jet for goodness sake! You need to respect your father. He takes care of you, he loves you, and he has enstilled values and morals upon you. Do you know that there are children out here whom will never know their father? They don’t know their dad’s last name, or their dad won’t claim them. There are kids who would have LOVED to have a man steer them in the right direction and protect them from this world. You need to respect your father. You have a positive black male figure that you can call on whenever you want to- and he’ll always be there- you need to respect your father!!! We live in an age of delusion and disrespect.

When I was 15 all my mother and I did was fight. And yes I was getting my ass beat sometimes. At 15. I’m not even sure how I survived. Lol Had I been my mother, I’d be doing a Lifers program talking to kids. When you become a teenager topics become heated!! We know EVERYTHING. And have the nerve to be arrogant. All of a sudden our parents aren’t doing a good enough job raising us. Just buy me everything I want-and stay out of my room. I’m praying that Mr. Dollars intentions were pure. She hit her father, a grown man in an argument. How many people would spazz if they were hit-let alone by their own child?! Hmmm (I never heard of such behaviors until I started working at a therapeutic school at the age of 24. I just never knew beating your parents was an option!!!)

This child has sent her father to jail because she wanted to go to a party. (To do what? It wasn’t a Holy Ghost party. To bend over n rub on some boy’s penis? He’ll enjoy that shit for 2 minutes then find another butt by the way. Were there older teens at this party? Did you know what young girls get raped, drugged up, and murdered? Even so your dad said no. I’m sure it’s no tthe first time he has uttered the word no) I know at the time it may have seemed like the end of the world to her, but this is a family matter. They’re family. Mom dukes better be putting in some work. This is a black family as well which brings in another issue. You need to respect your black man. He is the head of the household. That doesn’t make you weak. It doesn’t make you a “white wife” it makes you a happy one. Trying to be your child’s friend is weak. You need to be a parent whether they “hate you” or not… they’ll appreciate it later.

This is merely my opinion. A man that can protect and provide for my family, take care of finances, who is kind, gentle, and faithful deserves the utmost respect. ESPECIALLY during times like this. I def don’t want to procreate with some wishywashy man that can’t make decisions or lacks common sense and maturity (my worst nightmare!!!) I’d never allow a big strong man to hurt my babies. Lack of discipline will lead one to an early death…At the end of the day-You need to respect your father.

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This clip further demonstrates what a joke the Black Church has become. First of all, I don’t know how ANYONE could take a Preacher named Creflo Dollar seriously.

You mean to tell me, a man who manipulated teenage boys, from his church no less, into performing sex acts with him is simply justified as having a “wreck”? Are you fucking kidding me? One would think a “wreck” would be stepping out on your wife, or something have that nature. Not being a damned child molester! He groomed those boys from an early age then began having sex with them in their late teens.
I mean really think about, would he have even come out about this if he weren’t caught? Also, whatever happened to him swearing to fight like David fought Goliath? He has since decided he would rather pay them 26 MILLION dollars (over the course of time, 2 million each up front!) to just shut up.

What a joke…


What are your thoughts?