conquest of dorne

argilacthearrogant-deactivated2  asked:

Stannis reading the Conquest of Dorne for the first time

Err this somehow turned into Stannis and Robert taking their lesson with Maester Cressen, but Conquest of Dorne is still there. Hope it’s okay :D

“The arms of House Martell,” Robert read, “display the sun and the spear, the Dor …  Dor ..”

“-the Dornishman’s,” Maester Cressen interjected.

-“the Dornisman … the Dornishman’s two favorite weapons,” Robert paused, taking a breath.

-“but of the two,” he continued, “the sun is the more deadly.” Robert paused again, fidgeting and looking out the window towards the courtyard, where the men-at-arms and Lord Steffon’s household knights were training with their swords and their lances. 

“Well, go on then, read the rest of the page,” Stannis said, impatient. Robert had insisted on being the first one to read out loud during every lesson, not because he had any particular love for books and reading, but because as he was constantly reminding Stannis,“I’m the oldest!” and therefore he should come first in everything.  

Robert closed the book in front of him with a thud. In a sweet, charming voice he asked, “May I be excused, please, Maester? Before he left for King’s Landing, Father told Donal Noye to forge a new sword for me. A real sword, not a wooden one. I think I see Ser Gawen holding my sword now.”

“How do you know that is your new sword?” Stannis asked, suspicious. “It could be any old sword Ser Gawen is holding.”  

“You’re just jealous because you still have to practice with a wooden sword,” Robert’s sweetness quickly turned into venom, angry that his words were being challenged by his little brother.

“Boys, please, you must not quarrel. Remember your lord father’s instructions before he left,” Maester Cressen said with consternation. Cressen was a wise and learned maester, but discipline had never been his strong suit, and quarrelling boys more often than not left him feeling helpless and disconcerted. Lady Cassana would have been able to stop Robert and Stannis arguing merely with the raising of her eyebrow and the narrowing of her eyes, but alas, Cressen did not share that talent.

Robert turned to Cressen, the smile back on his face. “Please, Maester, may I be excused? Father will be ever so happy if I can show him how good I am with a real sword. But I have to practice constantly to be good at something, that’s what you told us.”

“Well, now …” Cressen hesitated. “Only if you promise to read the rest of the chapter in your own time before our next lesson, Robert.”

“Oh thank you, Maester. Thank you so much,” Robert said effusively, bestowing a hug on Cressen. “I promise I will,” he declared as he was walking out the door. Almost in an instant, he was gone, lured away from books and lessons by the sight of men with arms.

Cressen turned around to see Stannis regarding him with something approaching disappointment. “He won’t do it, you know. Robert will not read the rest of the chapter like he promised you.” You should have known better, was the unspoken rebuke from the serious, solemn boy sitting in front of Cressen.

Feeling disconcerted once again, Cressen cleared his throat and said, “Will you read the rest of the chapter out loud, Stannis?”

“Can I ask you a question first, Maester?”

“Of course, of course.”

“What did the Young Dragon mean when he said the sun is a more deadly weapon than the spear? The Dornishmen cannot take the sun and wield it in their hand as a weapon to kill someone, like they could with a spear.”

Cressen did not laugh at the question, the way some might have done. He knew Stannis well enough to know that the boy meant the question entirely sincerely and earnestly. “King Daeron did not mean it in quite such a literal way. The sun is not a weapon a Dornishman can wield in his hand, that is true; but the extreme heat has been known to kill many enemies before they could draw the blood of even one Dornishman.”

“The sun is the Dornishmen’s natural weapon then, not a man-made one. The same way the storm would hurt our enemies, if they try to take Storm’s End.”

Cressen nodded, smiling with approval at the boy’s quick understanding. Of course, the ferocious storms frequently assailing Shipbreaker Bay could hurt friends as well as foes, but Cressen did not think it the right time yet to alarm Stannis about that. He was still only a boy, no matter how strangely un-childlike he might seem at times. 

“What about the goat track, Maester?” Stannis piped up with another question.

“The goat track?” Cressen searched his recollection. They had not reached that part in the book as yet, if he was not mistaken. Stannis must have been reading ahead, impatient with the rate they were going during his shared lessons with Robert.

“Did the Young Dragon really win the war because he used goat tracks to get to Dorne? And no one else thought of that before? How clever of him.”

“It is not as simple as that,” Cressen replied, and went on to explain about ships and naval battles and the role played by Oakenfist.

“So the Young Dragon lied in his book?” Stannis asked, looking shocked. And very disappointed.

“Not lied … exactly. He was trying to make things simpler, less complicated. It is an elegantly-written book, very concise and –“

Stannis interrupted. “Why should it matter that it’s a well-written book if the writer is not telling the truth, Maester? He lied to make it seem like he was the only reason they won, like the victory was only because of his doing, and no one else’s.”

“Well, perhaps King Daeron did somewhat exaggerate his own role,” Cressen conceded, “but it was still a glorious deed, for someone so young to accomplish.”

“I should have known,” Stannis grumbled. “He sounds like Robert. When he’s writing about this great thing or that great thing he did, the Young Dragon sounds just like Robert boasting about every little thing he does.”

anonymous asked:

What do you think about the lionization of Daeron I & the justification of the Dornish Conquest?

The Conquest of Dorne was blatant imperialism. Dorne did not need the other Kingdoms; they had a flourishing society without their help, their government worked, they didn’t practice slavery, and their economy I assume was also fine without the other Kingdoms. I don’t even think that the other Kingdoms needed Dorne (or maybe they did, since they had resources that couldn’t be found in any other part of the kingdom). The Conquest of Dorne was about Targaryen egos still feeling a little bruised by Dorne’s success in remaining unconquered.

Daeron was a young king who wanted to prove himself, and like many young egoists, decided to take on the biggest task out there. Ultimately, he saw Dorne as “unfinished business” rather than a group of people who are happy being unconquered, with their own culture and economy and government that works well for them. Daeron even writes about the conquest in ways that make him look good, but his losses were astronomical. 50,000-60,000 dead, including himself and two lord paramounts, foreign intervention from Lys and Pentos on Dorne’s behalf, a smallfolk rebellion that nearly undid all of Daeron’s work… I mean, it was a fucking disaster, and it was all for the sake of putting those Big Bad Dornish in their Proper Place which is Submissive To Us, The Targaryens.

I think the lionization of Daeron I is stupid and unjustified. He was inexperienced and his goal in life was to subjugate a huge population of people who were doing just fine without him. Ego and imperialism were the driving factors behind the conquest (and probably a bit of racism too); not moral high ground (as with Daenerys’s conquest) or anything remotely admirable.

Is your next play going to be about Jamie in the Kingsguard? Following his appointment at Harrenhal and his journey to kingslanding Jamie slowly becomes disillusioned to the duties of the Kingsguard as he sees more evidence of Aerys Madness and his brothers in white doing nothing. Going up to the point where he makes the decision to kill Aerys rather then let him burn the city to the ground? I feel like that might be a good piece of drama.

I predict that the next play will focus on the unraveling of the young dragons conquest of Dorne. Leading up to his death in the false peace talks and the loss of the conqueror’s crown

I see so many people making guesses about what your second play is going to be about and I think no no no, your next play I believe is going to be a love story. Centered around the for bidden passion of the queen and the dragon knight and The unkempt lust Aegon the unworthy

Good lady queen I believe I have solved the mystery of what your next play will be about. It will be a drama focused on the Regency era of young Aego iii filled with plots and intrigues and schemes of every Regent trying to gain power especially the ever grasping house peake.

I am really liking this guessing game going on and trying to figure out what your next play is going to be about I have an idea though I don’t have any illusions about it being the right one. I think your next play is going to be sent right after the death of visenya and the flight of Aenys Widow and her children, the rallying of of bannerman to remove the cruel tyrant from the throne and Maegor realizing how alone and unloved he is and his subsequent death

I believe I have solved the mystery of what your next play will be. It will be set on dragon stone shortly after the sack of Kings Landing and the death of Aerys. It will focus on his now without queen coming to terms with what is happened the death of her eldest son her husband and her grandchildren. And her trying to present a regal and strong face to protect the rights of her son and her upcoming child. Meanwhile back on the mainland Robert is coming to terms with being king of a New dynasty

Has anyone guessed Daeron I’s Conquest of Dorne for your next play yet? Lot’s of info to draw on, colorful characters, fun biases to explore…

One of these guesses is (largely) correct. I’ll leave you to guess which it is.

anonymous asked:

Is there anything in the text that suggested Rhaenys survived her fall from Meraxes, and was tortured by the Ullers?

Whether Rhaenys Targaryen outlived her dragon remains a matter of dispute. Some say that she lost her seat and fell to her death, others that she was crushed beneath Meraxes in the castle yard. A few accounts claim the queen survived her dragon’s fall, only to die a slow death by torment in the dungeons of the Ullers. The true circumstances of her demise will likely never be known, but the histories record that Rhaenys Targaryen, sister and wife to King Aegon I, perished at the Hellholt in Dorne in the tenth year After the Conquest. (“Dorne: Dorne Against the Dragons”, The World of Ice and Fire)