this shot of Sherlock in TLD (in the morgue of Culvertons hospital, when he realises that Faith never was at 221B) is very prominent in choice of framing and lighting….
we saw this kind of lighting only twice before
Sherlock in HLV in his MP after being shot by Mary
CAM in HLV in the “Appledore vaults” which are in fact his MP
Both times related to mind palaces…
I know he is shattered in TLD
and devastated by drugs
…. but what he experiences in that scene is (on the surface level) actually NOT the realisation of having been in his MP! If anything fake!Faith has been an illusion!! And his MP has never been an illusion!!!
But couldn’t that moment of horror in TLD also be a crack in the surface… ?
Sherlock realising that this doesn’t make any sense if it is not in his MP, one of his mind experiments, the script of a mind play… Sherlock realising that he isn’t really living and experiencing all this, but that it takes place in his mind and why… because he’s actually still back here:
sidenote (and maybe he even then realises that he has to wake up…?)
sidenote 2 (is it possible that that’s the reason everything goes wild afterwards?? Sherlock “going wild” in his mind, exhaust the boundries to “break free”??? Just a thought…)
In OtGW, was the Unknown real? Or was it all in Wirt's mind?
Thanks for the ask! UuU I’ve been wanting to gush about this show (even more than I already have haha)
First and foremost, no, I don’t think The Unknown was all in Wirt’s mind, or that it was all a coma dream or whatever. This doesn’t make sense with the content of the story. If it’s all Wirt’s dream, why does Greg know about everything too? Why is Jason Funderburker (the frog) still with them, and why does he still have the bell? Why do the other kids seem shocked to see the frog glowing from his stomach if it wasn’t happening?
As many people have theorized already, The Unknown is most likely a form of Limbo; a place that lost souls teetering between life and death reside and wander around.
Depending on their choices they either make it back to the world of the living, make it to a heaven sort of place (like Greg reached in episode 8; he only returned because he didn’t want to leave Wirt behind)
or are consumed by the Beast to be forgotten and lost
There’s also the fact that for the majority of the show, they are in a wood that is in the middle of autumn, and by the end it has become winter time. Autumn is the time in-between summer (the time of most life) and winter (which tends to get associated with death).
Another constant is the half moon. Whenever we get to see the moon, it is in the middle of its cycle, which I interpret as another symbol of the state the boys are in.
It’s even a half moon before they go over the wall and into The Unknown. This reinforces the symbolism because it’s like time for them just… stopped.
And when you can’t see the moon anymore, or even any of the sky, is when Wirt and Greg are closest to proper death; when winter has come, and it’s started to snow.
I feel like the “pockets of story” that Wirt and Greg encountered are the people that have settled down, so to speak. They are the people buried in the graveyard, and so they have a place to stay. They don’t have to wander through this wood of literal lost souls because they already have a designated home.
(One of the biggest examples people have brought up is Quincy Endicott. You can see his name on the gravestone that Greg is hiding behind)
The graveyard itself is called The Eternal Garden. The wall the boys jumped over could be taken as them going “over the wall” into what humans consider The Unknown – the place that is there when you die.
I highly, highly recommend a rewatch, because you will catch so many more little details. It’s super satisfying to look at everything in this show!
The fact that Over the Garden Wall leaves you a lot of room for interpretation is one of the best parts, and it lets you keep thinking for hours or days afterward. It’s really beautifully done, and I haven’t seen a story do its telling as well as this little series has in a long, long time.
Riverdale Musical! episode. But Jughead is the only one who DOESN’T sing. He’s literally the genre savvy one who points out “When did you guys plan this? Where did you get that prop? Why is there an orchestra behind the bleachers? ARCHIE I’M RIGHT HERE. Is this some weird hazing you have to do for the Pussycats?”
UNTIL. The very end when Betty curls up next to him singing a sweet ballad and he sings the VERY LAST line with her. Awkwardly and off key but he loves this girl and he’ll do anything for her. Even follow along with this weird sing along she wants to do.
Maybe it could be a weird coma dream Jughead has after he’s in the hospital after crashing his motorcycle or something? End episode with him opening his eyes and Betty’s sleeping next to him on the hospital bed.
Below is all just my opinion, so please take it as such.
I think it’s no secret that I am very angry and bitter about S4 of BBC Sherlock. I think that although I do not believe in a S5 that I have been accommodating to friends that do and supportive of those who still wish to write meta and look for clues in the show. Most of the posts I’ve seen from non believes have been of the same mindset, they don’t believe there’s more, but more power to those that do. So I’m really not sure why those of us that salt get so looked down upon, we keep our feelings to our own posts. I have never once gone on someone’s meta and written that I do not agree and think they’re crazy, BUT I’ve had tin hatters come on MY posts to tell me how wrong I am.
So, let me explain why I feel this way. And if anyone other than @lediona25 reads this, then I’ll be surprised ;-)
I’ll say right off the bat, who fucking knows what Moffitss plan. Do they want to do more Sherlock? Fuck if I know. If there really is some secret plan, their two main actors don’t seem that into it. Two men who used to love to talk about the show now either brush off questions, or in Martin’s case I’m not even sure I’ve heard him say a word about S4 after it aired. That all looks REALLY BAD for the future of the show.
Now Dracula flops and Mofftiss come running back to do S5 of Sherlock sometime in the next 5 years, I see one of two things happening:
1. We leave from where we left off or sometime in the near future. The boys don’t live together. John is raising Rosie but we never see her. They solve crimes. John still has that stupid wedding ring on. RIP in Mary you asshole. With or without more gay subtext, who knows?!
2. The whole thing (S4, since TAB, before that??) is a gosh darn dream or coma or whatever, SURPRISE Moffitss think they’re so clever. And actors who have aged (Martin quite like a fine wine, damn boy) try to play themselves 5 years ago, lots of heavy make up to cover laughter lines etc. We get stuck seeing Mary again as she comes back for The Past. Still no guarantee of Johnlock bliss. Probably more subtext and mirrors *heavy sigh*
NOW if the whole mind palace/dream/blog theory happen I’ll be super happy for folks rooting for it. BUT for me, and a lot of other folks, that’s just really bad writing/story telling. Like, that’s not a win to me. The time to end all this subtext bullshit was now not 5 years from now. To come back years later and all of S4 was a dream, god what a waste. Why not just write a good S4? Why the need for all the subtext and mirrors? Why not just write something GOOD for fucks sake???
And, for me, it’s important to actually enjoy what I’m watching. TAB was all MP and I loved it, it was entertaining, it was about John and Sherlock, no stupid fucking separation, minimal Mary, it felt like it had a point. S4 was awful to watch. It was not enjoyable. You can load up all the subtext and mirrors you want, but if your shit isn’t entertaining/interesting to watch, all that shit doesn’t matter. Honestly, I wasn’t a huge fan of S3 either, but I THOUGHT S4 would explain it all. Which we all know now, it didn’t. More questions no answers. That’s not entertaining television. That’s Mofftiss wanting to have All The Cliffhangers and give none of the resolution.
So, in conclusion: I again say meta away if you want. But don’t talk shit/down to those of us who are mad. We are more than allowed to be pissed and to say we’re pissed. I gave years and my heart to this mess only to have Mofftiss stomp on it with glee. They can kiss my pug’s ass.
ie bloody hell in hindsight it’s obvious what we’re seeing in this episode isn’t real
I’m rewatching TEH after S4, with the mindset that S3 and S4 are Sherlock’s coma dream after he jumped for real from Bart’s rooftop
And. Holy shit! It makes so much sense!
1) The weird “coffee cup to John’s eyes” transition. We knew that this was taken from @ivyblossom‘s “The Progress of Sherlock Holmes”. We failed to notice that the fanfic opens on Sherlock dreaming that John has cups for eyes. EDIT 12 Oct 2017: To be faire it could also be an indication that the show we’re about to see has been filtered through a heteronormative filter (because Lestrade and Anderson are drinking coffee and coffee is straight), ie that Mary is a version of Sherlock that “no homo”es John and Sherlock’s relationship.
2) In the same scene with Lestrade and Anderson, the way the reporters who tell us Sherlock’s name has been cleared are filmed is… fucky, to say the least. Glitchy. That’s weird.
3) The “how sherlock survived theories” parodies. In all of them, Sherlock is awfully OOC. Why? Because Mofftiss were pointing out that Sherlock surviving the fall and not telling John is, in itself, OOC, because that would break John’s heart (which Sherlock knows since ASIB). Sherlock didn’t fake his death. SHERLOCK REALLY, ACTUALLY JUMPED, AND IS NOW IN A COMA BECAUSE OF HIS INJURIES.
4) Mycroft as one of Sherlock’s brain hemisphered gives… interesting insights into Sherlck’s psyche.
5) Sherlock just can’t stop thinking about John touching people’s genitals all day as a doctor – aka he’s jealous af of the women John had intimate contact with.
6) Sherlock never says why he didn’t tell John he was alive. Hint: that’s because he’s dreaming, and everyone who’s seen Inception knows that one way to tell whether you are dreaming or not is retracing your steps as to how you got where you are. If you can’t, that means you are either amnesiac, or dreaming.
7) The last restaurant Mary, John and Sherlock visit on the night of Sherlock’s return is suspicious: the lighting is blue. And there’s a useless blue screen on the far wall. Kinda reminds me of the glowing blue skull painting in s4.
8) Sherlock finds “How I did it”, a fake book allegedly written by Jack the Ripper. Hm. The episode itself keeps trying to explain how Sherlock did “it” (ie faked his death). The answer is right fucking there: he didn’t. He really jumped. He’s dreaming, and his subconscious is trying to get him to realise that.
9) LESTRADE: “Please, insult away!”. aka Lestrade taking as a compliment something that ought to be taken as an insult. That’s so reminiscent of his characterisation in TAB, in which we know Sherlock is dreaming/hallucinating, I’m crying laughing. We were so blind.
11) The off-switch thing. That’s just plain unbelievable, because that means anyone could deactivate the bomb. It’s in the terrorists interest that only they can deactivate it. Hence, rather than a switch, a code would be more credible.
12) Sherlock’s mind-palace is blown out of proportion. Literally. Sherlock recreates a whole train station in his mind. That’s way different from the last time we saw him using it (THOB), where there was just text and images and sounds superposed to Sherlock’s hand movements in the real world. And every time the mind palace is used after that, it’s the same. Sherlock’s MP takes over Sherlock’s reality. So it should follow that the reality Sherlock is in, is his own mind.
13) Mary is dressed in red. And wearing earrings. Mary is a red herring (because she doesn’t exist and is the dream representation of one of Sherlock’s worst fears: John Watson marrying someone other than him – that’s literally her name: Mary Watson… Marry Watson.)
14) How come the little girl (again!) knows John is in the bonfire before it’s lit, but the crowd around her doesn’t. I mean… John can’t talk, or scream, or anything, so…. Is she a psychic? or something? (Eurus foreshadowing)
15) Sherlock’s parents. His dad doesn’t want to get a chain for his glasses…. because it’d be like Larry Grayson’s, a known gay celebrity? And Sherlock says that his parents’ being “ordinary” is a cross he has to bear… Hm. If that doesn’t spell homophobic parents I don’t know what does.
16) “Sometimes a deception is so audacious, you can’t see it even when it’s staring you in the face”. Sherlock says, with his own reflection on his computer screen. Now, that obviously refers to TJLC… but that could also refer to the fact that Mofftiss have been dropping hints that what we are seeing is not real left and right. And that gets even more obvious in the following episodes.
17) Science fiction heart-shaped bomb. No, really. That thing would look more at home on the USS Enterprise than in a more “realistic” show like BBC Sherlock.
18) An abandoned/never actually built train station… with the lights on. And live electricity. I’m skeptical.
19) Sherlock’s explanation of what happened in TRF makes no sense. Sherlock clearly did not know what was going to happen on Bart’s rooftop, and I think that TEH, the whole episode, was his brain trying to find an explanation as to how Sherlock was still alive after jumping, and ultimately deluding itself into thinking Sherlock had planned everything (false memories are an oddly common phenomenon). Which led to Sherlock feeling guilty for breaking John’s heart intentionally (although the guilt could also be a sign of his subconscious feeling guilty for almost dying and still causing John pain)
20) What’s more, in Sherlock’s retelling of TRF, John never figures out that Sherlock is still alive right after he jumps. But this directly contradicts TRF: the fact that the camera “rights itself” and that John gets back up after feeling for Sherlock’s pulse, compounded by the fact that medical personal immediately takes Sherlock inside the hospital, strongly indicates that John knew Sherlock was still alive, because he’d felt his pulse.
21) Sherlock’s parents, part 2 : His dad refuses to buy himself a chain for his glasses because then he’d be imitating a gay celebrity. Mycroft (ie a part of Sherlock’s brain) suffers going through something his parents enjoy but he hates, because he promised them. And Sherlock says there’s nothing he can do to help. “You don’t understand the pain of it, the horror”, Mycroft says through the phone. And Sherlock hangs up on him. Now, of course, this scene is supposed to be funny, because Mycroft is talking about going to a musical (we hear the music through the phone’s speakers) as though it’s torture, but, remember: on BBC Sherlock, the funny moments are always used to hide something. I read this as Sherlock having homophobic parents (you can look like a nice person and still be horribly homophobic). And I think Sherlock’s parents did something terrible that made Sherlock repress his sexuality. This is confirmed by things in the following episodes (TSOT and TFP come to mind, although it’s all shown through metaphors and Redbeard).
puts on his cap before facing the press at the end of the episode. Exactly like in TLD.
23) The episode ends on Magnussen watching Sherlock save John from the bonfire, in what later turns out to be Magnussen’s MP. 1) Mind palaces do not work that way, you can’t recall something as visually precise as a video and 2) the episode that depicts Sherlock’s return to London ends on a scene that happens entirely in the mind of one character. What’s more, this character is a (creepy) Sherlock mirror.
also can you give me recommendations for poets to read (especially for someone who enjoys beautiful things but doesn't read a whole lot of poetry)
this was supposed to be a quick & dirty rec list for my girl but then it got out of hand so i’ve broken it off into categories 4 ya! this is by no means an extensive list but i was starting to realize that this was verging on Too Long. happy readings & i hope u find something that moves along the soil of ur soul!!
RICK GRIMES IN EVERY EPISODE
1.03 tell it to the frogs ↳ “I felt like I’d been ripped out of my life and put somewhere else. For a while I thought I was trapped in some coma dream, something I might not wake up from ever.”