cognitive difference

Type Spotting Guide

People want to type others for a variety of reasons but when you look around the internet for opinions about famous figures or fictional characters, you will often find very conflicting assessments. Sometimes this is because those doing the analyzing do not know enough or perhaps they identify too closely with the subject, and in terms of fiction, it can be due to complicated writing or inconsistent characterization. When you cannot ask someone for clarification about their behavior, the only thing you can do is look for clues and make guesses, which then opens up the typing process to error and misinterpretation. My approach to typing other people always involves “building a case” by methodically gathering details and analyzing evidence for/against all sixteen types.  

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trans activists: most trans people are too dysphoric to allow any genital contact during sex… i’m frankly disgusted at your ableism disgusting cotton-ceiling-hating terf bitch for thinking that by ‘have sex with’ anyone meant ‘touch the genitals of’… lmao go choke

also trans activists: my favourite lesbian sex act is blowjobs, the nail clipper meme is cissexist, why does this guide to safer sex for gay men not mention the pill #transphobia

The Differences Between INFJs and INTJs

Whew, boy. This is a mixup I see often, particularly because of the oversimplification of the MBTI system and it’s typing standards. In general, it’s much more accurate to type via cognitive functions rather than by going down the list of letters, and choosing one or the other. However, I understand that the functions are difficult to get to know at first, especially if you’re new to MBTI. That’s why I’m going to break it down for you right here.

First Function - Introverted iNtuition (Ni)

INFJs and INTJs actually share their first function, which is one reason why it can be difficult to tell them apart. This function is very broad, theoretical, and conceptual. It looks at the big picture, and is adept at using current ideas, clues, and facts to look into the future. Ni is a function that says “this hypothesis / relationship / invention won’t work out” before anybody can implement them. Ni is also susceptible to “falling down the rabbit hole.” That is, taking an idea and imagining it’s implementation, fruition, and downfall, and overall taking it way too far {btw this is a lot of fun to do, don’t hate.} 

Ni is also great at following through on plans, because it will only pick one to follow. In general, this function will also assist the type in their focus which is typically people for INFJs, and ideas for INTJs. Beware of stereotyping, for artistic INTJs and STEM-oriented INFJs do exist. Do not reduce the types or functions to generic ideas. That is lazy typing. 

Second Function - Extroverted Thinking (Te) vs Extroverted Feeling (Fe)

The second function in the stack is where we have some fun! INTJs utilize extroverted thinking, which is a very authoritative and strong willed function. Te looks at facts, organization, and hierarchal status. Te typically leans towards the STEM side of academia, but it can really succeed in any area, especially if there are medals to be won. They will create concrete goals and place personal importance on success. Moreover, they tend to have a very definitive view of success, such as referring to their GPAs, diplomas, or earnings, though it’s certainly not limited to these things. Te is very persuasive in dealing with people, particularly if there’s a goal to be achieved. Extroverted thinking will have an idea for successfully creating a thermonuclear weapon out of corn {cheap and organic wow}, put together a presentation, and get the President of the US to sign off on the budget. In other words, Te is good at winning. 

On the other hand, INFJs employ the use of extroverted feeling. Fe is a very people oriented function, and not necessarily a feeling function per se {INFJs are so out of tune with their feelings it’s wack.} This is a function that takes in the social setting, doesn’t like to rock the boat, and knows just how to communicate with every person Fe comes across.  This is why many INFJs are perceived to be extroverts, because they’re chameleon-like and tend to do well in any social situation. Fe is very empathetic, almost to an extreme, and will do almost anything to avoid confrontation. Extroverted feeling will also drive the user’s main purpose in life towards the “greater good,” whatever that is perceived to be. Fe is the force behind writing holiday cards, remembering birthdays, and just overall giving people what they need. 

Third Function - Introverted Feeling (Fi) vs Introverted Thinking (Ti)

The third function is where things get a little less developed, for all types. Therefore, these bottom functions can either not be “present” or show themselves in extremes. These are your hot mess functions. INTJs have introverted feeling, which is a function that highly values authenticity, personal morality, and being honest. Fi is unabashedly itself, and can be lacking in empathy at times. Introverted feeling will “say what everybody else was thinking” and be super upfront. When poorly developed, Fi will absolutely lack tact {and politeness oops}. The plus side is that Fi users will stick to what they believe in, even if nobody else does. 

INFJs use introverted thinking, which is a highly analytical, precise, and categorical function. The Ti user will have an exact use and name for everything in their lives. Ti will search for consistency and strength in logic. However, a symptom of having Ti low in the stack is that INFJs can be unnecessarily meticulous in their wording and have a soft spot for weird ass conspiracy theories {yes it’s funny to think Oprah Winfrey and Michael Cera are the same person but why.}

Fourth Function - Extroverted Sensing 

And in the end, we’re back to sharing the same inferior function, extroverted sensing. Se is adept at being in tune with the real world in present time. Extroverted sensing has aesthetic, rhythm, and lots of fun. This is precisely why it’s hilarious to see low-Se users in action. Both INFJs and INTJs are capable of being artistic, dancing, and catching a football. But it’s not something that comes naturally to either type. They’re prone to walking into walls, dropping knives, falling from great heights, and twisting ankles. 

Overall, INFJS and INTJs are both going to talk about how to take over the world with only $20 and trip over their own feet while doing it. The only difference is INTJs will threaten persuade Putin with a very shifty taser, and INFJs will charm their way to getting a list of nuclear codes {the money was spent on mascara, duh}. Ta - da! 

MBTI Blogs You Must Follow! (recommended by eilamona)

I get asks every so often about other MBTI blogs I’d recommend, so I thought I’d make a proper post. These are MBTI blogs I’ve been following for quite a while (at least a few months), so I know they’re good, knowledgeable, and not likely to disappear any time soon.

The format: Blog’s name [ blog’s url | moderator’s type(s) ]

All types

Myers and Briggs [ myersandbriggs | ENFJ ]

Very comprehensive MBTI blog filled with information on every type. I haven’t really seen original posts, but the mod reblogged a lot of good contents regularly. He also compiled lists of useful resources and other MBTI blogs on tumblr. A must-follow!

Funky MBTI Fiction [ funkymbtifiction  | ISFJ ]

I’ve always admired how Charity (the mod) writes about every type with such details and great understanding. She’s amazing at analyzing every type and is a wonderful writer. She posts regularly on each type, cognitive functions in different positions, pairing dynamics, and analysis of fictional characters.

MBTI Notes [ mbti-notes | INFJ]

Also an extremely comprehensive MBTI blog packed with everything you need to know. The “masterposts” are gold mines filled with analysis of each type, cognitive functions, relationships between every type and every type, and type contrasts.

What’s my MBTI? [ whats-my-mbti | INTP ]

A blog dedicated to helping you figure out your MBTI type (a dreaded question by many other MBTI bloggers). Arkady (the mod) is knowledgeable about types and cognitive functions, and she does very detailed analysis.

The MBTI Experience Project [ mbtiexperiences | INTP ]

Wondering what the relationship between this type and that type is like? This blog compiles submissions on real life relationships between types of many kinds (romantic, platonic, parent-child, etc) with in-depth analysis of their dynamics.

The Sixteen Personalities; A User’s Manual. [ thesixteenpersonalitytypes ]

This is NOT an active blog, however, the valuable information is still there. This blog goes into details about all 8 functions (including shadow types) in our functional stack. Worth a read.

MBTI Obsessed [ mbtiobsessed | INTP ]

Very knowledgeable mod, insightful analyses of types, functions, unhealthy/healthy versions, etc.

MBTI Listings [ mbtilistings ]

Another good resource on types and cognitive functions with a knowledgeable mod.

alarminginteger [ alarminginteger | INTJ ]

MBTI type art = ♥

Type-specific / Not completely MBTI-focused blogs run by knowledgeable people of different types

i.e. if you have type-specific questions, you should go to these people (and people above)

INFJ: infjadvice | readingontheroof

INTJ: intj-paradigm | intj-thoughts | rationals-pub

INTP: sillymbti | oiblackestsheep | rationals-pub | eilamona (ahem, yes, me)

INFP: infp-quotes

ENTP: e-n-t-p | type-unboxed

ENTJ: entjs | entj-life | type-unboxed | femaleentj

ENFP: numberoneintjfangirl

ISFJ: isfjwallflower

ISTP: istperson

Intuitives: intuitiverse

Sensors: everythingsensor (very new, so I can’t comment on the quality, but I endorse the idea)

MBTI Resources: The MBTI Master Index [ mbti-resources ]

I’m taking this chance to launch my new blog: mbti-resources

It will be mostly reblogged posts (only good ones, of course). However, the blog features an extremely organized & detailed index + tagging system that was planned from the beginning. Everything will be very easy to find. I don’t have much content on it at the moment, but it will definitely grow in time.


wikeve  asked:

I'm hybrid between ENTP and INTJ. Yes, I know, their cognitive functions are totally different, but the sequence is the same, so since my ExxP is quite weak I can jump between N, S and F functions. So, I would like to ask a question if I'm the only one who feels kinda rejected. I joke with people, talk etc. but I feel like no one really likes me like I'm not a person that can be loved. I'm not a loner in school but my relationships are just quite shallow, people prefer sentinels and explorers.

Well, to be honest you can’t be a hybrid of a type, but you definitely don’t need to be the stereotype of one either. You’re unique.

No, you aren’t the only one to feel rejected, though I am sorry you’re feeling that way. I’m sure you are very lovable, don’t let anyone make you feel otherwise. Also, it’s common for INTJ’s to feel that most conversations are shallow, so I wouldn’t worry too much about that. :) You seem very likable, and seriously, more people need to start appreciating us analysts! ;)

Attention all INTJs

There is a difference between cognitive functions and a list of personality traits that you found on the Internet and decided were cool.

Learn it.

An INTJ who is sick of seeing that damn “I don’t feel emotions or have morals” stereotype that makes absolutely no sense at all for the actual cognitive functions of an INTJ.

Social psychologists are becoming rather brilliant at setting up these gender difference sleights of hand [to show that gender differences disappear in the absence of stereotype threat]. The examples are piling up in all sorts of domains–from social sensitivity to chess to negotiation–but the pièce de resistance is the visuospatial skill of mental rotation performance.

In the classic and most widely used test of this ability, the test taker is shown an unfamiliar three-dimensional shape made up of little cubes–the target–and four other similar shapes. Two of these are the same as the original but have been rotated in three-dimensional space, and two are mirror images. The task is to work out which two are the same as the target. Mental rotation performance is the largest and most reliable gender difference in cognition. In a typical sample, about 75 percent of people who score above average are male. Gender differences in mental rotation ability have even recently been seen in babies three to four and five months of age. While it’s easy to see that a high score on the mental rotation test would be a distinct advantage when it comes to playing Tetris, some also claim (although they’re often strongly disputed) that male superiority in this domain plays a significant role in explaining males’ better representation in science, engineering, and math.

People’s mental rotation ability is malleable; it can be greatly enhanced by training. But there are far quicker, easier ways to modulate mental rotation ability. By…manipulating the social context in such a way that it changes the mind that is performing the task. For example, you can feminize the task. When, in one study, participants were told that performance on mental rotation is probably linked with success on such tasks as “in-flight and carrier-based aviation engineering … nuclear propulsion engineering, undersea approach and evasion, [and] navigation,” the men came out well ahead. Yet when the same test was described as predicting facility for “clothing dress and design, interior decoration and interior design … decorative creative needlepoint, creative sewing and knitting, crocheting [and] flower arrangement,” this emasculating list of activities had a draining effect on male performance.

Alternatively, instead of changing the gender of the task, you can keep the task the same but push gender into the mental background. Matthew McGlone and Joshua Aronson, for example, measured mental rotation ability in students at a selective liberal arts college in the northeastern United States. One group was primed with gender, while another group was primed with their exclusive private-college identity. Women who had been induced to think of themselves as a student at a selective liberal arts college enjoyed a performance boost, scoring significantly higher than gender-primed women. Likewise, Markus Hausmann and colleagues found that although gender-stereotype-primed men outperformed gender-stereotype-primed women, men and women primed with an irrelevant (geographical region-based) stereotype performed similarly on the mental rotation task.

Another outrageous, but successful, approach was recently devised by Italian researcher Angelica Moè. She described the mental rotation test to her Italian high school student participants as a test of spatial abilities and told one group that “men perform better than women in this test, probably for genetic reasons.” The control group was given no information about gender. But a third group was presented with a downright lie. That group was told that “women perform better than men in this test, probably for genetic reasons.” So what effect did this have? In both the men-are-better and the control group, men outperformed women with the usual size of gender difference. But women in the women-are-better group, the recipients of the little white lie, performed just as well as the men.

—  Cordelia Fine, Delusions of Gender: How Our Minds, Society, and Neurosexism Create Difference
thoughts about yg/winner again...

The way yg treats Winner is so singular and monumentally questionable. I have considered all content from both Ikon and Winner and it is apparent that not only is there a concrete disparity in opportunity and promotion, but there is also a difference in cognitive approach. There have been instances where yg has trespassed against Winner through tactics of humiliation, specialized scorn, and emotional manipulation. Instances that come to mind; yg manipulating Winner into a false sense of security only then to criticize their complacency, yg blaming Winner for promotional failings out of their control, it is not certain it was yg, but there were indeed staff members at yg entertainment who warned trainees to steer clear of Nam Taehyun for supposed homosexuality establishing a habitat for hostility which resulted in aggressions made towards him, guilt tripping Winner, telling members like KSY to stop writing music which is not only cruel but counterproductive and counterintuitive to the group’s foundation, toying with their sensitivity, and constant threats to disband them or put them in the army. I could go on, but It’s self evident if you compare the content. I feel like I can authoritatively say that this experience is different than Ikon’s. Everyone who points out unfair treatment is misunderstood and accused of being a “hater” but I have watched everything available with Ikon, and I would not waste my time doing so on a premise of hate. With Ikon, yg is much more fatherly and professional. He compliments them greatly, especially compared to Winner. He encourages them, and puts total faith in them. He is simply supportive. On shows like Mix and Match and Win, Ikon members can sometimes become uncomfortable if they are not given feedback or compliments, meanwhile Winner was afraid of criticism the whole time. Ikon is given constructive criticism, while yg will say things to Winner that is not constructive and only works to inhibit their confidence. Overall, this is something greatly overlooked and undiscussed. This on top of the greatly discussed promotional disparity brings me to the conclusion that yg has either something personal against Winner, or something personal towards Ikon. Though I can’t say what. 

Ahem. So. *slams fists on table* We need to talk about something.

I’m sick and tired of reading things like “XXXX type annoys me” or “The person that annoys me is an XXXX.”

I’m going to tell you something important, so you better listen.

MBTI does not decide someone’s decisions for them.

People are all born with different types. MBTI is mistakingly called a “personality” test. MBTI does not configure personality.

MBTI types are the shortcut names to indicate a pattern of functions, or tools, that people use in thought patterns to reach decisions.

This does NOT mean that any type is determined to be a certain way, or do things that annoy you.

Two very different types, with different cognitive functions, can reach the same conclusion using different thought processes. Two people of the same type, using the same thought processes, can decide to do opposite things.

So, whether or not someone of a type annoys you is irrelevant. Their type does not make them be annoying. They came to the conclusion to do something with the tools they have, just as someone else with different tools can do the same thing. Their type has nothing to do with it.

People receive some traits biologically, and some traits they develop environmentally. Either way, they did not choose how they think. Don’t label someone as annoying because of who they are. It does not make any sense for you to do so, and if you do that, you are either ignorantly or knowingly a very demeaning, dehumanizing bully.

If someone’s annoying to you, that’s because they chose to be annoying, or you are irritated by those particular things. Don’t be demeaning to someone for what they didn’t choose, making their thought process part of the equation. It’s not. Don’t hate someone for who they are. Leave MBTI out of it.


Stephen Tonti: ADHD as a Difference in Cognition, Not a Disorder

I watched several TED talks on ADHD today and I particularly like this one because it does more to highlight the abilities of people with ADHD. It made me think more about how my skills make me better at interdisciplinary work than work that focuses on only one field of study. Because I can’t seem to focus on one academic field. And that’s why I started college as a biochemistry major pre-MD/PhD and have now ended up a Chemistry and Physics double major who really wants to explore computing, math, graphic design, business, education, and many other things.

One thing I really struggle with about this ADHD debate, though, is this pull between society being the problem and us being the problem. It’s tempting to blame society. And I certainly believe that at least part of the problem has to do with the particular organization of society and how we treat people. Though, at the same time, I can’t help but think that changing the rules for kids with ADHD is somewhat… unfair? Like a crutch? That we run the risk of cradling kids in too much of a safe space to where they can’t cope when that safe space no longer exists.

This other talk I watched was given by a mother whose child has ADHD. Her son never handed in journal assignments for his writing class because the topics didn’t interest him, despite being ranked in the top 10% in his state writing assessment. She suggested that, if only the teacher let her son write about dinosaurs, which he was obsessed with, he would never stop! Which is great. But in the “real world,” you can’t just bail on things because they’re boring. You might hate doing your taxes, but you still have to get them done.

I can’t say I know what the solution is. But celebrating reasons why ADHD doesn’t suck, why people with ADHD are valuable, and creating opportunities for kids with ADHD to discover what they’re good at and to succeed, is a start.

You mistake my choice not to feel as a reflection of my not caring, while I assure you the truth is precisely the opposite.

-Spock, Star Trek Into Darkness

This is an incredibly Aspergian statement, as I’ve been in this exact same situation many times myself. At times I get so empathically overwhelmed with feelings- both mine and others, that I had to learn to block them out and not feel, or suffer the dire consequences. Spock was my role model for doing this in an elegant way. But my deliberate stoicism tends to be misinterpreted by others, and when I was younger, I caught a lot of grief for doing so.  Still, I’m the person you will want to have around in an emergency, because I can block that ‘noise’ and act in a rational way. I pay the price later, when things have calmed down- I literally collapse and shut down.

So tumblr user udontknowmycereals commented on my post about stretching saying I should make a list of benefits of doing nothing, so I did it for reals.

We live in a culture where “doing nothing” is considered lazy. It’s not lazy. In fact, many very successful people have to have time off to “do nothing” to help their levels of productivity. The resting brain is actually incredibly active- so active, in fact, that researchers who use it as a “baseline” for fMRI (functional MRI- the type of brain imaging that we use to examine what parts of the brain are engaged during different cognitive tasks) often see negative "activities" in various regions and some scientists suggest it’s a horrible “baseline!”  From managing our own emotions to igniting the creativity bug to putting critical information into our long-term memory, “doing nothing” is one of the best things you can do for yourself.

Unpopular opinion:

I really sort of hate the rigid neurodivergent/mentally ill vs. neurotypicals dichotomy built up in a lot of the rhetoric on this site.

It codifies and reinforces the “otherness” of people who experience marginalization and violence because of their cognitive and behavioral differences. It also sometimes gets used–specifically in this space–as a cover for harmful and even abusive behavior, e.g. people using their diagnoses as an excuse to make demands on other folks’ emotional and psychological energy, for violating others’ boundaries, and even for outright cruel behavior. 

There are still some blogs from humans who think people only use 4 cognitive functions. This is so extremely wrong. *shakes head* We use all 8 cognitive functions. Just in different order. We have our shadow functions. Why else are they called “our functions”? So stop thinking we only use 4 functions. Please. This is just narrow-minded.