church teachings

historically, the normative way of becoming Christian is through profession of the Apostolic Christian Faith, being united to Christ through baptism into Christ and the Apostolic Church, being sealed with the Holy Spirit(chrismation), and being united to Christ in Holy Communion according to Apostolic Teaching. That is the way people became Christians all through history. In this day and age, it is typical for many Christians in the evangelical world to only go through a profession of faith. Baptism is often neglected or seen only as a profession and not mystical union with Christ and the Apostolic Church. Teachings on the Holy Spirit are often neglected or vague to the point of confusion and Communion often is neglected and employed only as symbol and not a true union with Christ. Not only this, but the Apostolic teachings of the first 1000 years of the faith are often neglected almost entirely on these subjects and are replaced with views that have only arisen in recent  centuries.

For these reasons, I think that for many Christians, they have never had a complete, biblical, normative Christian conversion. Unknowingly they have not been fully initiated into Christianity as it has always been taught from the beginning. I think for many people who are Christians and still searching for a home, they are undertaking this search because on some level there’s an intuitive awareness that their experience of Christianity is incomplete or lacking in authenticity. I think that is why so many people feel unsure about their conversion or about what the church is. They have never fully experienced these things and so are confused and unsure about both.

I say this from personal experience. I have been a Christian for most of my life but after years of searching and studying and much frustration, it was only after I came home to the historic One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic, and Orthodox Church(Orthodoxy) that I experienced full initiation into the faith of Holy Scripture.

I think many of you who are searching are perhaps unknowingly searching for Orthodoxy. Come home to the Orthodox Church.

“Selected passages from church teachings about the inferiority of women, with verses at the foot of the poster which conclude: -Woman! Go to the Soviets, to the factory committees, to the unions, listen to lectures, study, read newspapers, enroll in the workers faculties, the technical schools, colleges. Know: you’re foolish to search the heavens. Remember: how did you live in the past? The working woman is a comrade, throw away your belief in the priests and god.-“

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theologicalmess asked:

That quote from honeyandwormwood was pretty profound to me too. I swear I had an epiphany when she said it. I was like "This. This is why my vocation, my call, only showed up when I discovered The Episcopal Church. Because, for once in my life, I found a mess I didn't mind cleaning up."

Yeah exactly! Or, for me, not necessarily “cleaning up” but just being able to cope with. This idea has been bouncing around in my head a bit lately, because I’ve had a few asks with people saying things like, “I hate the church’s teaching/what Christians say about this, so how can I not lose my faith?” And honeyandwormwood’s post really helped to clarify an answer to that, for me, which is just that Christianity/the church is so diverse. You’ll never find a group of people whose ideas match up exactly to yours and sometimes that will be uncomfortable, but there’s bound to be a group of people out there who’s mess you can cope with

PSA

It’s not a sin to have same-sex attractions.

It’s not a sin to have gender dysphoria.

To call either of these things a choice and/ or to expect LGBTQIA+ people to “change” is unrealistic and insulting.

But we need to be very, very careful as Catholics that we do not encourage our fellow Christians to act in violation of Church teaching and the moral law in our attempts to be accepting.

It is one thing to mind our own business; it is quite another to actively encourage people to sin or to deliberately brush these teachings under the rug when things like sexuality and gender are being discussed in a religious context.

Yes, of course Jesus loves everyone. And the only proper response to such great love is a radical, self-giving, sacrificial love of our own, for Him and for one another.

Our LGBTQIA+ brothers and sisters have been called to a loving relationship with God Himself. To spend eternity with Him. To call Him “Father.”

Don’t you dare allow them to settle for anything less.

1 Mouth, 2 Ears

God made us with 2 ears and 1 mouth. So we can listen more than we can talk. People talk way too much. Not enough listen. They just go about having it their own way without giving someone a chance. A chance to offer a different perspective. Listen to one another and see what you can learn.

God’s never-ending stream of much-needed mercies

God’s never-ending stream of much-needed mercies

In this system of things, possibly coming very close to the conclusion of system of things, we can find lots of people who do not know any more how they can feel comfortable, painless, peaceful and happy.
For many this ‘real life’ has become a bit or a lot more than they can bear.

This ‘real life’ has robbed me of the joy this New Beginning was to bring. {Searching for God – In Real Life}

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American Catholic Professor to Bishops: Shut Up, Servants (LINK)

Before you read all this, read the link. Read it.

/rant

Gary Gutting is a Catholic professor of philosophy at the University of Notre Dame. Suffice it to say, Notre Dame (Our Lady) is rolling in her… sleep in glorious Heaven. It is difficult to describe how I feel right now, reading this. It is like that empty pit in your stomach when someone else totally does not understand or care about something at all and you just have to stand there in absolute shock. I seriously feel like I got punched in the gut. To quote good ol’ Rick Santorum, this made me want to “throw up”.

If you needed proof of the death of American Catholicism, this is it. From Gutting’s interpretation of Catholicism, the bishops serve as nothing but administrative servants for the rest of us, the real authoritative “Church”. Their authority is hardly divine, it is a secular and human creation of their own making, and their teaching authority is only validated by the approval of the masses. Obama does not need to care about the actual teachings of the Church, the “actual” teachings of the Church are those that majority of people wish to believe.

Are we all authorities? Is there no definitive teaching body of the Church? Let’s ask St. Paul:

    Now the body is not a single part, but many.  If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole body were hearing, where would the sense of smell be?    But as it is, God placed the parts, each one of them, in the body as he intended. If they were all one part, where would the body be?

    But as it is, there are many parts, yet one body. The eye cannot say to the hand, “I do not need you,” nor again the head to the feet, “I do not need you.”  If (one) part suffers, all the parts suffer with it; if one part is honored, all the parts share its joy.

    Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it.  Some people God has designated in the church to be, first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then, mighty deeds; then, gifts of healing, assistance, administration, and varieties of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work mighty deeds? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? Strive eagerly for the greatest spiritual gifts.

1 Corinthians 12:14.17-21.26-31

So no Mr. Gutting, contrary to your personal belief, we are not all heads making up one monstrous body. We are all apostles in some way. But not in the way the bishops are. We are all teachers in some way. But not in the way the Magisterium is. The way Gutting dismisses the bishops and even the FREAKING POPE is nothing short of appalling. I’ve never seen anything like it and as much as some Catholics might not listen to the authority of the Church, I always chalked it up to ignorance rather than willful disregard. The stench of relativism is palpable in his writing. I am in utter and total shock. He writes:

There was, perhaps, a time when the vast majority of Catholics accepted the bishops as having an absolute right to define theological and ethical doctrines.  Those days, if they ever existed, are long gone.  Most Catholics — meaning, to be more precise, people who were raised Catholic or converted as adults and continue to take church teachings and practices seriously — now reserve the right to reject doctrines insisted on by their bishops and to interpret in their own way the doctrines that they do accept.

No, Mr. Gutting. It is not new that believers can reject the teachings of the Church. It is not even new that the majority of Catholics reject the teachings of their leaders; it has happened more often in our history than you might think. Nor is it a real change to suggest that we, as Catholics, can choose our own path apart from the teachings of the Magisterium. There have always been people who believed that, and there have similarly always been people who have remained faithful to the teachings of the Catholic Church. We even have words for them, ancient words:

Orthodox

1580s, from Late Latin orthodoxus, from Greek orthodoxos “having the right opinion,” from orthos “right, true, straight”+ doxa “opinion, praise”

Heresy

from Gk. hairesis “a taking or choosing, a choice,” from haireisthai “take, seize,” middle voice of hairein “to choose”

We’ve always had people who clung to the Church, and those that chose their own path. Those who walked the “right way” were the orthodox faithful. Those who took upon their own authority to “choose” their own moral and divine teaching were called heretics.

He writes:

In our democratic society the ultimate arbiter of religious authority is the conscience of the individual believer.

Even that in itself is enough to require us all to oppose the HHS mandate. If the arbiter of religious authority is the individual believer (which he argues in order to prove that the bishops are not), the HHS mandate requires Catholic run businesses and employers to violate that very same conscience. So what are you doing on the other side of the fence, Mr. Gutting? Are you trying to obfuscate the debate? In the end it doesn’t even matter who has the authority; what matters is that religious liberty is being violated. Faithful Catholics will be forced to violate their consciences, which you yourself have stated is “the ultimate arbiter of religious authority”. I get it though, basically what you are saying is that each person is the ultimate authority, each person should change their views to yours, and if they do not, they should be compelled by law to do so.

May God have mercy on you, Mr. Gutting, and all those you are leading astray. This is a dark day. I’ve read so many anti-Catholic pieces, I’ve come face to face with so many heretical and relativistic writings, and yet I’ve never felt like I looked into the rotten core of the failure of the modern ‘Catholic’ until this day. If you want to know why the Church is losing relevance, look no further than yourself, a self-proclaimed Catholic who believes it has no relevance. The religious authority is yourself, you say; not God, not the pope, not a bishop- yourself.

I just realized the way Gary Gutting’s Op-ed piece made me feel. I couldn’t describe very well the feeling of betrayal, of total misrepresentation and total lack of understanding. I have a feeling of “Why don’t you get it?”, a feeling of “You are a believer, you are one of us, how can you say this and think like this?”

But I’ve got it now. It sounds like what Jesus might have been thinking and feeling when one of his own betrayed him with a kiss.

/end rant

-Peter


Peter gets a chance to rant, and I want one too :D  Anyway, if Mr. Gutting responded to me, this is what I would say:

In regards to Mr. Gutting’s response, I would tell him, the people of the Church DO NOT give authority.  The Church is NOT founded on majority rule or a sort of social contract, as it seems that his article implies.  His point is that the people give the authority to the bishops.  That is not what the Church has ever founded its principles of authority and Magisterium on.  If he had done his theology correctly and philosophical discourses, it would be clear and reasonable to conclude that according to his perspective, that YES, the bishops would have no authority.  However, as Catholics, we do not base the authority of the papacy and apostolic succession on the people, but because Jesus, the one he claims to follow, instated specific apostles to share in His ministry.  If he reads his Scriptures, he would see that God, throughout all of human history recorded in the written tradition and in the oral and religious tradition of Jews and Christians, chooses people to lead His people, whether it is one or multiple. What God does NOT do is leave us alone.  He is the Good Shepherd, a good shepherd does not leave his flocks to fend for themselves, to try to fend off the world according to their understanding.  I appeal to the tradition of the Church he so believes in, I also appeal to the human condition that left to our own devices, we will ruin all things.  The sinless Adam and Eve, before the taint of original sin, chose to turn against God.  We are tainted already, and we are struggling to follow natural human rights in a world that believes that fetuses, infants, and people that are undesirable should be quarantined from our lives, put in elderly care, orphanages, or done away with if they are too burdensome.  As Catholics, these are the very people we are called to love, because their cries are what God hears.

Mr. Gutting, you speak of determining who is right, and I agree, we should consider: Who is right?  You place your faith on a generation which promotes the sexual revolution, a world of promiscuity, lack of control, and self-oriented merchandise and entertainment.  You place your faith in a world where Man becomes the center, the authority of morality and belief, creating their own Tower of Babel, where we might touch the heavens and become gods.  You place it on a culture whose greatest concerns are living day by day, sustaining themselves for their pleasures and passions.  I ask you simply, you hold a different view from the bishops, the apostolic successors of the first disciples of Jesus, passing on a tradition of faith, hope, and love, fighting for the life of the individual.  But, what say you, when the political entity has determined to enforce a principle of belief that defies the essential teachings of the faith?

You speak of 98% of American Catholics and 78% of Catholics opposing the Church’s stance on contraception.  Is that what we should abide by?  You speak of majority rule, where morality is defined only when the majority decide it so.  Is your opinion of morality so low, that the whim of the custom defines the essential being of humanity?  Is the freedom to choose anything without consequence except of our legal making the binding factor that makes a human Human?  I ask this only to remind you that Hilter, Stalin, and Mao presented the same perspective.  They made the majority, they taught what the people would believe, and the people obeyed.  There was a majority that abided, sure some dissented, but the vast majority consented.  Are we supposed to consent in the same way, because our government decides it is alright?

I see you from your article, I do not know you.  I only ask, are you willing to lay down your life for your belief, where you place the individual above the tradition and teachings handed down from Jesus to us today, where we allow everyone to be their own interpreter of the moral code?  Because if you are, please consider the ramifications of your statement.  Let everyone decide their moral principles and beliefs, without a telos to aim toward.  Let man determine his own self worth.  I propose, we will fail as soon as we begin, because our worth is indeterminable, and it is only indeterminable because God loves all men, and intends for all men to live in Him, the only source of life.

-John

Can we stop pretending that Pope Francis is going to change the church’s teachings. The teachings will never change no matter who the pope is. all those who think reform is coming and the church will conform to society’s ways are living in a delusional fantasy world. The thing about catholics is we are called to love everyone and help them no matter how much they have sinned or who they are. But that doesn’t mean we are going to condone the sins of the people. You are never to judge a person but you may judge the persons actions and ideas as moral or immoral. So basically the teachings will never change the church has been around for 2000 years with the same teachings. there will be no reform, so please stop saying there will be one.the thing that makes the catholic church such a long standing institution is the fact that it never conforms to society’s current ideals. So please, and i cannot stress this enough, do some research before you go spouting off crazy things about the church and the pope. 

So in church they teach you that when you get married, you have to “leave and cleave” (separate from your parents and focus/rely on your new spouse)

Jon’s interpretation is: shout “CLEAVE” at random moments throughout the day, preferably while jumping out from behind a corner and grabbing your wife when she least expects it, then explain “it’s biblical”

Catechism A Day: Gospel Verse Mt 18:21

Peter approached Jesus and asked him, “Lord, if my brother sins against me, how often must I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus answered, “I say to you, not seven times but seventy-seven times.

As we forgive those who trespass against us(CCC Par 2843)

Thus the Lord’s words on forgiveness, the love that loves to the end, become a living reality. The parable of the merciless servant, which crowns the Lord’s teaching on ecclesial communion, ends with these words: "So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart."It is there, in fact, "in the depths of the heart,"that everything is bound & loosed. It is not in our power not to feel or to forget an offense; but the heart that offers itself to the Holy Spirit turns injury into compassion & purifies the memory in transforming the hurt into intercession.

anonymous asked:

hey carpe, i'm going through a crisis of faith right now and i don't know who else to ask about this. i really love catholicism, but over the past few months i've grown more and more disillusioned with the church's moral and political stance on issues such as same-sex marriage, women's rights, etc. i feel like i can't be a "real" catholic anymore unless i'm conservative... do you have any advice about how to oppose certain church teachings in good conscience?

I’m going to dismantle this one too.

Act of Faith           
O my God, I firmly believe that Thou art one God in Three Divine Persons, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I believe that Thy Divine Son became Man, and died for our sins, and that He will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe these and all the truths which the Holy Catholic Church teaches, because Thou hast revealed them, Who canst neither deceive nor be deceived.       

Act of Hope           
O my God, relying on Thy almighty power and infinite mercy and promises, Ihope to obtain pardon of my sins, the help of Thy grace, and Life Everlasting, through the merits of Jesus Christ, my Lord and Redeemer.           

Act of Charity          
O my God, I love Thee above all things, with my whole heart and soul, because Thou art all-good and worthy of all love. I love my neighbor as myself for the love of Thee. I forgive all who have injured me, and ask pardon of all whom I have injured.