hey! im kinda having trouble deciding whether I use si or se, so i was wondering whether you could help me out. ive read that si sees reality through a subjective lens, while se is purely objective. so does this mean that a si user will have a more personal attachment to a place/object/person if it is special to them, and that object could represent something to them (like a stuffed toy representing their childhood and the associated memories), while a se user will just see the object as it is?
si sees reality through a subjective lens, while se is purely objective
While I don’t exactly disagree with this statement, I think it can be very misleading.
Both Si and Se perceive sensory information. Si fixates on the sensory information that is relevant to the Si-user’s personal experiences. Se observes the current dynamics of the available sensory information. Si is focused and therefore detail-oriented, while Se is broad and therefore all-encompassing.
For example, both an Si-user and an Se-user see someone on the side of the road pushing a shopping cart. The Si-user immediately attempts to put the details of the current situation into the context of a similar thing they’ve already observed. They might remember watching a documentary about poverty and recall that homeless people often use shopping carts to carry their belongings. The Si-user determines that the person might be homeless. Meanwhile, an Se-user sees that same person and does a once-over of the current observable situation. They know that this place is far from any shopping center and notice the odd assortment of objects in the cart. The Se-user determines that the person might be homeless.
So yes, Si is like a subjective lens and Se observes in a less personalized manner, but it’s important to note that Si is always paired with Ne and Se is always paired with Ni. Both function pairs allow a person to balance external and internal references.
Like I said in the last question I answered, it’s best to determine your type by paying attention to the dynamics of the function axis (in this case, Si/Ne vs Se/Ni). A function’s counterpart provides an additional perspective into what the function lacks. There should be a sort of push-and-pull between the two, and the nature of the tension should clue you in to the functions and their positions.
does this mean that a si user will have a more personal attachment to a place/object/person if it is special to them, and that object could represent something to them (like a stuffed toy representing their childhood and the associated memories), while a se user will just see the object as it is?
Not necessarily. Si-user or not, everyone attaches some degree of sentimental meaning to their important belongings. Introverted functions in general deal with attaching personalized meaning, and everyone uses introverted functions.
I haven’t personally observed any trends that would indicate Si-users are especially sentimental. My ISFJ mother tends to keep quite a few things “just in case” she needs them in the future, though it’s not due to emotional attachment. Rather, it’s an inclination produced by her inferior Ne preparing for any sort of unknown future scenario. My ESTJ sister is basically the opposite of sentimental. “The thing is taking up space? You don’t need it or use it? Get rid of it.” She’s extremely practical in that typical Te-Si manner. Honestly, my INFP sister is more sentimental than both of them put together, even though she’s got low Si.
So yep. Those are my thoughts on the matter. Feel free to shoot me another message if you need additional information!
The worst thing about every Mbti type (some of it actually isn't but i don't know just go with it)
*WARNING: SUBJECTIVE TO MY VIEWS* *ALSO WARNING: POSSIBLE SALTINESS* *ALSO ALSO WARNING: NO HARD FEELINGS THIS IS PARTIALLY JOKING AND PARTIALLY MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE*
-Why must you go impulsively do stuff?
-Really tho like what???
-Besides that you guys are pretty chill
-Just don’t do the thing
-WHY DONT YOU WANT MY PERFECTLY LOGICAL ADVICE
-Impulsive 1000000% 10/10 would agree
-Also extremely independent
-Which explains why you don’t like my advice
-What are you even taking about?
-How do you have so many friends and then just don’t talk to them?
-WHAT EVEN ARE YOU
-Like ENTP but a little more considerate about their friends
-But will probably just leave you still
-Just in a nice way
-Says “I’m fine” when is actually really grumpy and frustrated
-Mr./Mrs. Grumpy lol
-Just very salty about things
-NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THEM THEY ARE CYNICAL LITTLE SNOWFLAKES
-They don’t emotion very well
-And they pretend they don’t have emotions
-BUT I KNOW THINGS
-Advice giver 24/7 TM
-Does the ^w^ face
-Then goes to the -_- face
-Not really a smol doggo
-Can actually be analytical sometimes
-Doesn’t always wear flower crowns
-Okay maybe sometimes but not always
-Pretends to like you because they don’t have a choice because they want to be nice
-Cynical little snowflakes with more emotion and passion
-Tries to be an Fe user
-But fails very much
-Can’t always understand other people’s feelings
-DON’T EVEN GET ME STARTED
-Tries to be logical but ends up failing
b/c too much Ni
-Can’t even explain their thoughts without sounding like an idiot
-Pretends to be their stereotype too much
-Sometimes actually doesn’t have enough concrete evidence to give their meaning for something but is convinced they are 100% right anyways
-STUBBORN AS HECK WHEN THEY WANT TO BE
-Even with Fe it’s just wow okay that was just quite cynical of you
-THE SALT LORD TM
-Maybe the logical feeler in 2nd place
-because lots of salt
-Literally the 🤔 emoji
-Can literally logic someone to death
-Don’t get in their face about things
-It won’t end well
-Clingy b/c they love you (which isn’t always that bad)
-A smol bag of emotions
-Clings to introverts usually
-Probably has dirt on a lot of people
-Thinks that people who are different are not edgy or trendy
-Secretly envies them
-THE ULTIMATE GRAMMAR NAZI TM
-Takes perfectionism to a whole new level
-Likes to be an Fe user
-Not as mean as they seem
-But still kinda scary
-Actually very passionate about things
Dom Si: it makes sense to do what has always worked Inf Si: *something is slightly abnormal* hahhA aha ahaahaahha kill me
Dom Se: let’s go for a run it will be great! look at the sky! the air in the room feels particularly nice Inf Se: drugs, sex, food, alcohol —–give it to me——
Dom Ni: look at what the future holds! Inf Ni: the end is near, there is no hope for any of us, we are all doomed to oblivion
Dom Ne: the possibilities for what we could imagine are endless! Inf Ne: okay but consider this: what if I forget to do my homework what if I fail my classes what if I don’t graduate what if I never find a job what if no one ever loves me what if satan reaches up from the depths of hell and consumes what little is left of my soul what if
Dom Fi: these are my values, they are important to me and I stand by them Inf Fi: you think I am being a little stubborn? well guess what you can shove a cactus up your ass
Dom Fe: don’t worry, I’ve got your back! I am here to support you Inf Fe: ah um erm *ahem* hm ah uh there there it’s uuh okay
Dom Ti: logic is a wonderful thing, I bet there is a lot we could do with it! Inf Ti: oh so you think that I am incorrect about this one thing?? how dare you say that how dare you doubt my knowledge what is wrong with you, no you are the one who makes no sense get out of my sight
Dom Te: we are going to get things done today *gets things done that day* Inf Te: now you see I have everything planned out and I know exactly how we are going to get this done, but, additionally, I see another possibility: we do nothing
WHAT A DANG BLAST THIS HAS BEEN! HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR MY SIS JULIE SHE KICKS SERIOUS ASS WITH HER OUTRAGEOUSLY GREAT WRITING SKILL <333
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