i think the reason why so many of my fave books are ya is because really good ya always revolves around well-developed characters that have understandable motives & actions whereas so many adult fiction novelists are trying to write the next Great American Novel & get so caught up in their own pretentiousness & incessant need to imbue “meaning” into their work that their characters & plot & overall arcs end up somehow both messy & boring.
Alright kiddos, I gotta just say this thing. BAD PEOPLE =/= BAD CHARACTERS.
Severus Snape is motivated by the love of a woman who never reciprocated his feelings. He latched on to her fleeting affection, and used it to justify being horrible to her child and his friends (and just children in general.) He joined an Order that hurt and killed other people, and only questioned it when their work threatened Lily. Not her husband, or her child. Just her. His betrayal was as selfish as anything else he ever did, and his redeeming moment came when he questioned Dumbledore’s method of raising Harry Potter to die. It was not enough to make up for a lifetime of selfish, abusive, dangerous, habits. Severus Snape was not a good man. He is however a fascinating character.
Kylo Ren is someone we don’t know a lot about yet, but he can be summed up as a man who is doing terrible things in the name of what he thinks is right. From what I gleaned from The Force Awakens he is attempting to complete his grandfather’s work, and fulfill the prophecy in the way he sees it. Which is very fucked up, and involves killing lots and lots of people. Also involves invading people’s minds violently via the Force to steal information and otherwise torture them. He’s made interesting through their use of his youthfulness, the erratic temper inherited from his grandfather (and probably the Dark side,) and his attempt to train Rey. He is a very bad man, but a very fascinating villain.
I’m not advocating to romanticize either man. Snape is that ‘nice guy’ who breaks when a woman says no and at best spends the rest of his life creeping around the corners of hers and telling people that he deserved her and how dare she choose someone else; at worse, this is the type of man who goes on to kill that woman, or others, because of his inability to accept rejection and move on. Kylo Ren attempted to forcibly invade Rey’s mind. He is abusive, and dangerous, and willing to kill her and her friends in order to achieve his goals. This is a man who has already killed his own father at the whim of his master. Shipping him with Rey is gross, and violating, for a number of reasons.
That being said, I also don’t advocate for dismissing them out of hand. Their presence - as deeply flawed, uncomfortable, men - gives our protagonists something to struggle against and overcome. Their flaws highlight the paths our protagonists choose not to take.
I am NOT best placed to answer this question since I am not a literature student or even really a meta writer or anything, so if anyone else wants to chime in, be my guest!
Ok so writing a “meta” is basically when you’re “writing about writing” (when something is “meta” it usually means that it is self-referential). Fanlore.org describes meta as follows:
In fandom, particularly LiveJournal-based fandom, meta is used to describe a discussion of fanworks of all kinds, fan work in relation to the source text, fanfiction characters and their motivation and psychology, fan behavior, or fandom itself.
So that’s apparently the origin of the fannish use of the word. And it’s still being used in that meaning to this day.
However - and the article mentions this as well - the word has somewhat shifted meaning and as far as I’ve seen it used in the fan communities I’ve been a part of here on tumblr (so SPN mostly), it’s come to mean critical analysis of the actual source material (e.g. the tv show).
For example, someone might write a piece of “bi dean meta”, which will be an analysis of the text and subtext of the show - often up to and including technical aspects like camera angles and shots - that offers up evidence to support the interpretation/reading of the character of Dean Winchester as being bisexual.
That was just am example, though. I hope I’ve made it a bit more clear to you…
Hi! First of all, I really like your blog! Do you accept any asks and discussions? If so, what do you think about Griffith as a character? His motivations, the reason why he collapsed on his own dream, basically fucking himself into nothingness? I read the whole manga and watched the movies in about a month and now I'm so hype about all of this! I really need some more insight :)
Griffith is such a complex character, you ask came just when I was wondering whether is a good villain or a tragic hero. I actually have more sympathy for guts but I just can’t bring myself to hate griffith despite all he’s done. He’s just an ambitious man with a big dream, his methods to achieve them may be wrong but I kinda understand him. I’m not trying to excuse him what he did to the band of the hawk is unforgivable but let’s not forget that he started it in order to achieve his dream. He worked hard, bled, lost some of his men and gave his body to a disgusting pedo noble just to keep going. Once he got the king’s attention the same people he was fighting for looked down on him for his low birth and conspired against him. It’s a lot easier to hate a character without trying to understand him but if you look past what he did, his tenacity is quite admirable. I still don’t know what to make of his feelings towards guts tho, did he really consider him a friend despite what he said to charlotte, Did he breakdown b/c he felt like he was betrayed by one of the only people he could rely on in a court full of enemies or was it just because he lost his best pawn?! The second blow came when he saw guts and casca together, he was a broken man and this girl who worshiped him had her eyes on another man. I don’t know what to think no matter how many times I read the manga, I don’t mind asks by the way, my opinions are just a bit controversial!
I don’t care how either, because to me it’s not the stories, the adventures, the legend that matters. It’s who they are and why they do what they do. Their motivation as characters in a drama, more than in a detective story.
Please tell my why they were so out of character in this season and got so little time together… (It was probably mostly Mycroft/Gatiss’ plan)
The character motivations in this scene can basically be summed up as;
Jack: We need to talk about our feelings, Gabe. Gabe: Okay let me tell you about how emotionally devastating the thought of losing you is to me, and how much it destroyed me when you almost died that one time. JACK: Woah now lighten up, I’m trying to hook up with you.
tbh i feel like lup is a character that griffin has been dying to make a central part of the group, and not because she’s amazing and embodies the entirety of the story, but because she creates character conflict. for pretty much the entire balance arc, griff has tried to get the three boys to disagree on stuff, but because of who the characters are, taako and merle being too easy going and not caring enough, and mags practically overriding any conversation or argument by just rushing in has made for a dnd campaign with basically no conflict amongst the pcs
now a campaign doesn’t need to have conflict to be a good one but for an audio only story, conflict is the easiest way to develop the characters and get the boys to really address what’s important to them and what they would fight for, but with a character like mags (which is a very common type let me tell you i’ve been overrided too many times) the other characters generally do not get a say unless they extremely object. which has probably been something very irritating for griffin where he had to literally pull their teeth to get backstory and character details
so enter lup who’s not afraid to bite back at the boys and question their choices and just from that argument we, as an audience, suddenly understand lup almost completely. we understand her motivations and what’s she terrified of and that she, as a character, cannot lose hope. and!! we even got a huge understanding of taako!! i mean look at all the meta that came from just that one interaction because suddenly we see this interaction and it justifies who taako is as a character. i would even go as far to say it developed mags as well
as a dm, griffin has been trying desperately to get the boys to fight against each other with moral choices (wonderland, the chalice, lucas, and others too) and granted they can’t just put out an ep that is an hour of back and forth between the boys of deciding what to do with the chalice, but griffin has been trying to get to develop past the ‘magnus rushes in, taako’s good out here, merle? does something?’ (sorry i forgot what merle’s was OTL) to the point where griffin has tried multiple times to separate magnus from the group to force the other two to take initiative and lup and this new play style is finally making them do exactly that
so TL;DR Lup is a character that griffin has been dying to introduce and is the character conflict/instigator that the campaign has needed for a long time