character development this show does it best

News Flash

Criticizing Joss Whedon’s problematic writing choices does not translate to hate.

Also, word of advice, if you want people to stop accusing you of being racist or sexist, then you might want to stay away from the following:

  • Having the lead female protagonist of your show almost raped by her love interest and then have the showrunner praise the rapist as being his favorite character and having the best character development (Spike, Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
  • Plan to have a prostitute gang raped to feed into the character development of her male love interest (Inara, Firefly)
  • Have a show that heavily features Asian culture and religions, but then fail to cast any Asian actors (Firefly)
  • Claim that having Asian actors was unnecessary because one of your white actors “kind of looked Asian.” (Summer Glau, Firefly)
  • Fire your lead actress for getting pregnant and then spend the next season shitting all over her character (Charisma Carpenter, Angel)
  • Inviting that lead actress to come back to the show, promising her that she’ll stick around until the final episode, only to turn around and kill her character off at the last moment as revenge (Charisma Carpenter, Angel)
  • Creating the single most racist depiction of a black female character by making her violent, savage, animalistic and so dumb that she isn’t even able to speak, and then reveal that the way she became the first slayer, was by having a group of old men force a demon into her body without her consent (The First Slayer, Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
  • Have one of the most popular female superheroes referred to as a “cunt” by the main villain (Natasha Romanoff, Avengers)
  • Claim that because a female character was unable to have children, that she was considered a monster (Natasha Romanoff, Avengers: Age of Ultron)
  • Taking one of the strongest female superheroes in the MCU and turning her into an outlet for her male love interest to pour his man angst all over and then completely dump her in the end without any expression of gratitude for all she did for him (Natasha Romanoff, Avengers: Age of Ultron)
  • Have one of the most popular superheroes in the MCU joke about raping women (Tony Stark, Avengers: Age of Ultron)
  • Feature two characters who were originally of Jewish-Romani descent and then have them whitewashed by hiring white actors to play them (Wanda Maximoff and Pietro Maximoff, Avengers: Age of Ultron)
  • Having two Jewish-Romani characters volunteer for a Nazi organization, despite the fact that Jewish and Romani people were victims of the Holocaust (Wanda Maximoff and Pietro Maximoff, Avengers: Age of Ultron)
  • Have the audacity to redefine feminism and re-brand it because he found feminism distasteful.
  • Constantly using the “break the cutie” trope to punish his supposedly “strong female characters.” (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, Avengers: Age of Ultron)
  • Using the threat of sexual violence against his lead female protagonists on multiple occasions (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, Avengers)

Check yourself, fandom. These criticisms of Joss Whedon’s work have been long-standing and are completely valid. So, before you get on your high horse and try to accuse his detractors of being bitter fangirls, take a look at all the fucked up shit your problematic fav has said and done, and then we’ll talk.

anonymous asked:

I love Kirishima. A lot. And I love your blog because it mainly focus on him. I love how he brightens the show and how great his character is. But the thing is I saw some of your posts shipping him with bakugo. I don't ship him with bakugo though. I like their friendship and all. I think it's the most beautiful progress I have seen in BNHA. Their dynamic pair is good. May I know why you ship them? And please don't hate me.

Reasons to Ship Bakushima

Since you already like their friendship and think they make a good dynamic pair, you probably have a good idea of why people like their relationship. There are a countless number of reasons to ship them and their relationship has so much going for them, so I feel like whatever answer I give won’t be enough. I’ll try my best to answer this. Maybe it’s best if I list some of the main reasons why I ship them. 

1. Kirishima is important to Bakugou’s character development. 

Early on, he encourages Bakugou to have friends and allies by being a friend and ally to Bakugou himself.

Kirishima does such a good job making himself a friend and equal to Bakugou that he becomes the only classmate Bakugou can accept being rescued by without hurting Bakugou’s pride. This is a huge step for Bakugou’s character development because it shows Bakugou can learn how to accept help from someone without his ego being bruised. 

The character development Kirishima gives Bakugou helps Bakugou become a better hero by encouraging Bakugou to be a nicer individual and to work with other people. 

2. Bakugou CARES about Kirishima. 

Usually Bakugou doesn’t give a crap if someone is sad. However, Bakugou has been shown multiple times trying to cheer Kirishima up when Kirishima is sad, which is something he hasn’t done for other classmates. Bakugou cares about someone besides himself, and the classmate Bakugou cares about the most is Kirishima. 

Bakugou doesn’t care about people like a hero should. As Bakugou learns to care about Kirishima, he can become capable of caring about other people, further showing how Kirishima helps Bakugou become a better hero.

3. Despite Kirishima admiring Bakugou and wanting to be his friend, Kirishima doesn’t let Bakugou walk all over him. 

He’ll tease Bakugou like any friend would, even if Bakugou doesn’t like it. 

And he doesn’t let Bakugou get away with shit. He understands Bakugou needs to improve his behavior and will call Bakugou out on his bad behavior. 

Kirishima won’t let Bakugou get away with not calling him by his name either. Kirishima not only wants Bakugou to be his friend, he also wants Bakugou to treat him with respect. Kirishima doesn’t want to be Bakugou’s minion. He wants to be his equal. 

4. This point goes without saying, but similar to how Bakugou cares about Kirishima, Kirishima REALLY cares about Bakugou. 

Kirishima is one of the people who is most worried for Bakugou when Class 1-A hears the villains are after Bakugou.

And despite the dangers for him and his classmates, Kirishima is willing to break the rules to rescue Bakugou because he is one of the students hurt most by Bakugou’s capture. 

Kirishima checks to see if Bakugou passed the hero license exam and is worried about Bakugou when he sees Bakugou doesn’t pass.

5. Bakugou respects Kirishima. 

Bakugou sees Kirishima as a useful ally because their Quirks work well together and is willing to accept Kirishima into his cavalry battle team as a result. Then during that cavalry battle, he listens to Kirishima when Kirishima tells Bakugou to calm down, and Bakugou even refers to Kirishima by his name, something Bakugou rarely does and only does with people he respects. 

Kirishima puts up a good fight against Bakugou during the Sports Festival, showing Bakugou that he’s more than just his hardening Quirk, making Bakugou respect him even more. 

Not only does Bakugou respect Kirishima enough to be rescued by him without hurting his pride, but Bakugou remembers words Kirishima told him months later. Kirishima told Bakugou he’d be unshakable during the cavalry battle, and then Bakugou recalls those exact words months later. Bakugou doesn’t remember things unless they’re important. The things Kirishima says have a huge impact on Bakugou.

Furthermore, Bakugou thinks Kirishima is so strong that he states Kirishima can be unbreakable like All Might. Considering how highly Bakugou thinks of All Might, that’s a huge compliment and shows how much Bakugou respects Kirishima’s abilities. 

6. Bakugou is good for Kirishima’s character growth. 

Kirishima looks up to Bakugou for his unwavering determination and strength and tries to be a strong hero more like Bakugou. When Kirishima expresses how little he thinks of his Quirk and abilities, Bakugou gives Kirishima advice and helps Kirishima create his new super move, Red Riot Unbreakable. 

As demonstrated by Red Riot Unbreakable, Bakugou helps give Kirishima conviction and a more unbreakable spirit, making Kirishima more of an unyielding wall, which will improve Kirishima’s hero career. Kirishima wouldn’t be the mighty brute force he is now without Bakugou. In addition, the things Bakugou says improve Kirishima’s confidence. For instance, Red Riot Unbreakable raised Kirishima’s confidence and makes him feel stronger, which is important for Kirishima’s self-esteem. Keep in mind, Bakugou usually says things to hurt and lower other people’s confidence, so it’s very remarkable that the things he says helps Kirishima’s confidence instead. 

Although, it’s difficult for Bakugou’s threats and insults to faze Kirishima anyway. 

Considering Kirishima’s low self-esteem, Bakugou is an important person who’ll help raise Kirishima’s confidence. In addition, both Bakugou and Kirishima suffer from painful inferiority complexes, with Bakugou’s inferiority complex manifesting into a superiority complex. They can both relate to their issues and help each other. 

Overall, Bakugou and Kirishima’s relationship gets lots of development throughout the series. They mean a lot to each other and help their characters grow. They’re arguably best friends. They’re so close that Iida automatically turns to Kirishima when asking about Bakugou’s whereabouts. 

I don’t expect this answer to convert you into a Bakushima shipper anon. It’s cool if you don’t ship it. This is a very loaded ask because there’s so much I can say about this. I don’t think this answer does this ship or their relationship justice because I can go on and on about why Bakugou and Kirishima are great for each other and why their relationship is important. If I didn’t list some reasons why I like them, then my answer would get disorganized and incoherent. By the way, thanks for asking this specific question. I’ve never really stated why I like Bakugou and Kirishima’s relationship, and it’s nice to finally get my thoughts out there. Although, I could still say more on the topic. 

shows on netflix u should definitely be watching
  • Crazy-Ex Girlfriend - ITS A COMEDY MUSICAL, GUYS, CREATED BY RACHEL BLOOM (who won a golden globe?? YES HER). get to the 3rd episode at least. there’s an OPENLY BISEXUAL CHARACTER (later on in the season) and its such a good representation of love & what it actually is and growing up and letting go?? such a good show
  • BoJack Horseman - just a really, really good & cleverly written show about an anthropomorphic horse. 7000% animal puns. 5000% describes exactly how u feel about life and sadness.
  • Jane the Virgin - CUTE!! mock telenovela that deals with lots of social issues, like immigration, etc (the last episode i watched had the narrator checking every scene for the bechdel test omg) ALSO, arrested development level narration, fam, get on this. gina rodriguez will slay ur ass
  • Bob’s Burgers - such a good lil family show about a burger joint. watch this when you need to laugh or just to lift ur spirits. also, we are all either gene, louise, or tina. don’t lie
  • Lovesick (prev. Scrotal Recall) - adorable show prev. suffering from a truly tragic name. cute & british, about a man who finds out he has chlamydia and has to tell all of his previous sexual partners. you’ll fall in love with these characters by the end of s1, they’re all so dear to me
  • Master of None - aziz ansari’s show. each episode is basically a lil movie. the love story is ridiculously cute and it talks on some subjects rlly well
  • Jessica Jones - !!!!!!! if you haven’t seen this, GET ON IT. esp. if you’re a girl, cause this is SUCH A RELATABLE SHOW FOR WOMEN. grizzled neo-noir female detective? SIGN ME THE FUCK UP. also, watch daredevil if u wanna be caught up for Marvel’s Defenders, which is gonna be sofuckinggood
  • Sense8 - HOW HAS NOBODY SEEN THIS ONE? god, it’s so good. it’s got some problems but overall it does well @ showing other cultures and also some kickass sequences and wow main the characters interacting is just A1
  • It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia/The League - this is. so funny. get past the 1st season and its such a good garbage show. the characters are such assholes, dude. they’re horrible. super dark humor, only watch if ur into that/ funny show abt a fantasy football league. both garbage shows and i love them w all my heart
  • Arrested Development - just in case u haven’t seen the best show ever written. basis of basically every comedy show u love. watch.
  • The Office - how have u not binged the office?? binge the office.
  • Comedy Specials - comedy specials are an UNTAPPED GOLDMINE on netflix. some of my fave comedians are John Mulaney, Bo Burnham, Ali Wong, Chelsea Peretti, Donald Glover, Jim Gaffigan, and Aziz Ansari.

BONUS - non-netflix shows u should also be watching

  • You’re The Worst - messed up characters and darkkk dry humor, but the second season does such an EXCELLENT job at portraying depression!! also, a dysfunctional relationship that is not necessarily unhealthy (sometimes, tho, sometimes)
  • Community - ONE OF MY FAVORITE SHOWS. Gets emotional so quickly. S1-3 are some of the best moments on television. skip S4. S5-6 are good but S1-3 are amazing. characters will become all of ur faves
  • Westworld - my expectations for this show were sky-high and it has oNLY PROVED THEM RIGHT! half sci-fi, half western fantasy VR, all badass. i have no idea what’s going on and i love it. literally Robots With Anxiety #relatable

pls add to this if you have any great shows, and i’ll update this list whenever i find something else wonderful that i don’t hear people talking about

i have so many feelings about everyone’s character development in stranger things 2

- i actually love steve now like he just grows so much and you see he actually cares about nancy and really takes care of the kids and ahjjfjlalsljd i have so many feelings about this

- eleven’s coming of age arc is so beautiful

- and will????? wow

- like

- i am completely bl o w n a w a y by noah schnapp’s acting skills. just can’t even believe it

- mike’s character really deepens I think, and the emotion on his face when eleven comes back is so palpable and so strong and you can see the barest trace of tears in his eyes


- dustin does not get enough love i think



- and bob. what a cutie. the best guy.

- also wtf was that thing with billy and mrs wheeler like what

- i dont think ive ever been so emotionally invested in tv characters before like i feel like they’re my friends

A sad, but real view of Reiner and Bertolt relationship

I always said I don’t care who you put Bertolt with: ships and friends are always welcome to me as long as Bertolt gets the love he deserves. This helped me realizing what is the real thing between him and Reiner.
I’m really sorry to say so, but Bertolt didn’t get any love from his friend. I agree with the theory that Reiner has strong feelings for him, maybe even romantic (as hinted many times after the herring dialogue with Ymir), but he was never able to show them. You may think he didn’t because he was aware of his feelings to be one-way, since he pointed out more than once that Bertolt has a crush on Annie (and I believe this is true), but it’s sadly not because of that.
It’s because Reiner is a coward, and probably loves himself more than anyone, even Bertolt. Since we could get some development for his character, we started noticing how much this guy does his best to keep himself away from sufference. He even built up another personality for this purpose. Ymir’s words in the forest were clear: he developed mental problems because he was not able to cope with his guilt, not because he was born that way. No sickness involved.
So yeah, he is indeed the weakest of the duo, yet the only one who felt a total failure until the end was Bertolt. And this is not what I call love: it’s what I call being selfish. Reiner let him go thinking he was a coward with no will, as he has always made him feel. He has always been cold with the most precious thing he had (after himself). If he really cared about Bertolt more than about himself and his pride he would have never recommended him to be careful like this:

It’s as clear as the water that he is using cold tones to make sure Bertolt to do his best to survive, but these could be his last words to him (and they will be) so why being an asshole until the very end?
Because Reiner is too scared to ever show his feelings. He is too scared to suffer, so he rather make the ones he loves to suffer instead. He is too afraid to use his love as a weapon to give courage to his friend. He rather uses Annie, once again, who’s not even there and whose they’re not even sure is still alive:

But this was just the last proof of his selfish behaviour. During their time as trainees, Reiner deluded himself multiple times in the soldier play, believing to be a normal recruit like the others. He even had a crush on the girl everybody like, so just like a regular cadet. He has been seeking for normality all the time, forgetting his only friend, who was probably like the Devil to him. Bertolt was the one who used to bring him back to reality, that one reality Reiner was escaping. It was in those moments that Bertolt proved himself to be reliable, something that Reiner was probably too busy to see.

And now… now it’s a little too late to go back:

It’s not the Walls, Reiner: it’s you. Ymir wrote that letter because she knew she wouldn’t have seen Historia again. She accepted the idea to die (and I honestly hope she died in the end, since I have enough of fake final speeches) because she had no regrets or remorses. She told Historia what she wanted to tell her, because she learned and was able to admit to herself that you can’t live for yourself, even if you get a second chance. And you’re not going to have it anyway, Reiner, because Bertolt won’t never come back to hear what you were never had the guts to tell him (I’m not talking in a strictly romantic way, I’m talking about feelings in general).

I honestly hope we are going to see Reiner figuring out how much selfish he was, because if he really cared for Bertolt more than himself he must let his fears go and clearly tell us what his regrets are. He must speak to us, which is not what he did with Bertolt. A quick, single page showing a flashback of him and Bertolt standing on the Walls is not enough: I want to hear his rage towards himself, I want him to prove me wrong, or his character will be totally fucked up.

Books vs Show (again because I'm in a mood about CC rn)

Book!Jace: asshole to everyone at all times, in love with girl who he thinks is his sister, tries to bone said girl in a ditch, main character trait is “gold”, brought condom to demon realm while trying to save friends (including his brother’s boyfriend)
Show!Jace: sassy but sweet, would die for anyone including downworlders (because why not), refuses to persue girl he thinks is his sister, understands that Clary is with Simon and doesn’t try to ruin their moment by telling her that they aren’t related, needs a hug and a nap
Book!Clary: hates Izzy because she’s pretty, bitchy all the time, makes out with the boy she thinks is her brother, puts everyone in danger without caring about them so she can wake her mother, gets pissed off at her mother when she wakes up, thirsty 24/7, just generally extremely fucking annoying
Show!Clary: smol, fucks everything up but tried her best, best friends with Izzy and appreciates her, sticks up for everyone, puts self in danger to save Meliorn, becomes sudden badass after like no training???
Book!Simon: fuckboyest fuckboy out of all the fuckboys, can’t date best friend for longer than a book but then is dating two girls at once, tells neither Izzy nor Maia about the other, tries to play the victim after they find out, only really there to be the Unrequited Lover
Show!Simon: my son, “nerd hot”, always nervous, references for days, never done anything wrong, worries more about unconscious Alec than he does about Clary’s weird-ass accusations, adorable
Book!Izzy: over-sexualised, slutshamed, calls Jace sexy, hates Clary because she’s a girl, shit at cooking, good with a whip, likes roleplaying, character “development” is going from being with Meliorn to being with Simon
Show!Izzy: canonically a genius, “best forensic pathologist in New York”, my daughter, deserves better, loves her brothers, not sexualised, “comfortable with her body, uses good looks as an advantage, badass, can do anything in high heels, wants mother compliment her, supports downworlder rights, supportive of Alec since they were children, is one of the main reasons why Malec are together
Book!Luke: werewolf, in love with Jocelyn, owns book shop, shows up like twice a book, like that’s it???
Show!Luke: Dad Friend, dog person, great alpha, protective of his family and their friends, only killed alpha to save Clary and her friends, also my son, 100% done with Shadowhunters, needs a break, father figure for Clary and Simon, always willing to help, vampire pun king
Book!Magnus: party king, sass lord, wears the weirdest clothes ever like what, doesn’t want to make Alec feel uncomfortable, “freewheeling bisexual”, best cat names ever, has fewer scenes than Church (who used to be his own cat), but seriously how can his clothes be considered stylish
Show!Magnus: High Warlock of Brooklyn, biggest badass ever, Dad Friend even to other Dad Friends, helps Shadowhunters without expecting as much as a “thank you”, Hair Goals, Home Goals, best boyfriend ever, always tries to help everyone, chooses his son (Raphael) over Camille, not interested in Shadowhunters’ drama, most iconic lines, extra af, stylish af, casually name-drops Michelangelo, Freud, and Casanova
Book!Alec: doesn’t kill a demon for eighteen years, bitchier than Clary, is in love with Jace but still dates Magnus, slams Clary into a wall and threatens to kill her when she says she knows he’s gay, accuses Simon of threatening him when he brings up him being gay, extremely biphobic, random sassiness in last book, tries to get rid of Magnus’ immortality without him knowing, mistakes Maia for Magnus, whines at everyone about everything
Show!Alec: Gay Stutter, tol, invented sass and eye-rolling, loves his siblings, loves his boyfriend, loves everyone, just wants to be a good shadowhunter, deserves better parents, badass demon killer, gets fed up of hiding a part of himself and kisses his crush in the middle of his wedding, is over Jace when he starts dating Magnus, doesn’t care about Magnus being bi, always getting cockblocked, can’t function when talking near/about Magnus, done with your Hetero Bullshit, needs some days off work, MY SON

Miraculous Ladybug and Voltron Roles

So I’ve been addicted to Voltron since this summer and I figured with Miraculous premiering in a few months, and Season 2 of Voltron just airing, I might as well share my thoughts on the Miraculous crew as the Paladins of Voltron.

So, I thought a lot about this, but I think Marinette would fit best in the Black Lion. However, there’s a catch. I think Marinette would be the Black Lion pilot that Keith was meant to be. Sure, she’s impulsive and trusts her instincts, much like the Red Lion’s pilot does, but she is meant to be a leader. Strategic, decisive. She’s got a lot to take on, a lot to grow and develop for, but… She’s exactly where Keith would be at the end of Season 2 in Shiro’s absence. So I think she’d do well with Black.

Chloe is definitely the Red Lion for me. She’s difficult to place, but it’d work out well in the grand scheme of things. We’ve seen in the show that she can be temperamental and passionate, and while I need to see more of her character to finally paint the best picture, for now I think she’d do well in Red.

Alya is Green Lion. She’s got her blog and her phone, very tech savy, she’s perfect. Inquisitive, intellect, and daring. How doesn’t Alya embody that? She always wants the answers, she goes out of her way for the truth… It’s perfect. 

Adrien is Yellow Lion. His character is constantly called the “sunshine child” for good reason, and if Hunk isn’t the embodiment of pure sunshine, there’s an issue. Adrien is constantly raising his friends up, defending them, and supporting them. It’s the very essence of who he is. I think he captures Yellow perfectly.

Nino is Blue Lion. Honestly, this one isn’t debatable. If the Blue is the most adaptable, the heart of Voltron, just open and honest–this is Nino to the key. He accepted Adrien after a short explanation, he’s just a great friend. And that’s one of the key ingredients with Blue.

Tikki is Princess Allura. Plagg is Coran. No arguments.

That’s all for now. I’ll probably do more characters later!

i’ve been watching avatar the last airbender (for the first time!) while i’m working for the past couple of weeks

did season 2 episode 15 really have to go that hard and make me start full on sobbing right in the middle of my work day


I think it’s telling that it was Todd’s speech that finally spurred Bojack into some kind of action and self-awareness. It always seemed to be Herb that made Bojack want to seek forgiveness and it was always Charlotte he came running to, in fantasy or reality, when things got too tough. Bojack has treated Todd like shit over the seasons, to the point were Todd’s “fuck” speech seemed long overdue. Yet it’s telling that Todd was the one who got through to him, it’s his words he echoes. It’s things like this that make me believe Bojack’s ‘best friend speech’ on the improv ship was genuine and heartfelt, that he actually values Todd’s opinion. It also shows how Bojack is starting to let go of obsessing over his past mistakes and let them be just that - his mistakes. That fact that he can recognise now and own up to the things he does wrong, just shows how much character development he’s been going through this season. 

On Character Development

Anonymous asked: “I have a character who is abused by her parents. She’s really timid and has been being abused to be “perfect” for all of her life. How would I portray her brokenness I guess you could call it, and how can I write her progressively becoming better - but not great - over time?” 

Abused to be perfect… let’s unpack that. I wouldn’t say anyone can be abused for not being perfect exactly. It sounds to me like maybe they set high expectations that she cannot hope to meet. The abuse might be verbal or physical after she fails to meet those expectations. 

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So apparently people aren’t seeing the absolutely incredible character development this episode showed us. I think people are focusing too much on birdperson not being there or evil Morty or whatever, but… Holy shit.

For one holy fuck does Rick Sanchez love his family (shown especially with Morty this episode). Yes Rick doesn’t exactly listen to Morty well, but he’s very clearly trying his best to do good for him and the rest of the family.

And Beth FINALLY put her family first instead of fearing her father would leave her. We’ve seen Beth show multiple times that she cared less about her family than she seemed to in earlier seasons, and it took time away from Jerry and a trip down memory lane to get that spark back; and to feel confident as as her own person not inherently attached to her father (shown very well subtly too with the ‘clone vs real beth’ bit tbh)

But this is really what was being leading up to this season. Family dynamic was the entire season’s plot. We saw the characters flesh out emotionally and experienced a lot of raw interactions. I could go on for hours about all we learned this season about their family and personal journeys so far.

I personally really, really, really loved that episode and believe if we truly want this show to continue expanding we need to give it time (bird person and evil Morty in the finale episode would seem rushed to me!! I want to prolong and deeply appreciate that bridge when we get to it).

Let’s just remember for a second that in the beginning of The Song of Achilles, Patroclus is described as being too slow, too small—basically not a warrior, never going to be a warrior. Throughout the book, he’s shown as not really having a love of fighting and chooses to learn medicine from Chiron on Mount Pelion. And then, at the very end, in the most 180 character development I’ve ever seen in my entire life, Patroclus dons the armor of his most beloved, the demigod known as the warrior to end all warriors, the best of the Greeks, and goes into battle. Into fucking battle.

He goes against everything that anyone ever thought of him; what he thought of himself. This man—against the words of his father who never showed him the love he deserved, who was cast out into exile by that same father, this man who would rise to be the pin in the grenade—does what no one expected him to: He leads a charge against the Trojans that spins the war on its head in such a way that gods have to get involved.

Achilles, aristos achaion, refuses to fight because of an argument with Agamemnon over honor, and sweet, gentle, kind Patroclus with his heart full of only love for his people, for his friends, for the man he holds most dear—this man, without grace (I mean he’s dropping spears and accidentally almost knocking his helmet off for hell’s sake) makes what’s described as a ‘fateful decision’ and says, “You know what? Send me. I’ll do it.” 

Even if you read the Iliad, it goes the same way. We remember Achilles, this strong, bronze, divine being as the one who kills Hector. Ask anyone about the Trojan War and I’ll bet you 100:1 that people will always mention Achilles before Patroclus, but you know what? It should be the other way around. The amount of courage it takes to know that you have no special skill, you’re mortal, and there’s an extremely high chance that you’re going to die, and yet you still go to the largest battle before the demigod does—the fact that that exact moment is when the entire war turns and what was once a losing battle is refueled… That to me is more heroic than anything.

Thank you teen wolf

It’s a real sad moment when your favorite show ends. One that you’ve swore you’d stop watching but came back to see what else would happen. Keeping up with the cast of the show. Seeing their other projects. But always coming back to this show no matter what projects they do.

Jeff Davis, even though most of us lowkey or high key didn’t like the show after certain characters were killed off *cough cough* Allison, Alden, Brett *cough*

But you sir have created one hell of a show for us to watch. One that covered serious issues that people go through in high school. Or go through in their every day lives.

Sexuality, bullying, money struggles, mental health issues, health issues, death, what it’s like to have a single parent. I could go on for hours.

But you gave us something special and showed us characters that weren’t perfect. Characters that weren’t afraid to be themselves.

You gave us the noble scott mccall who would do anything for his friends, and anything for people. Even if it meant letting the world know who and what he was.

You gave us stiles stilsinki. The funny, ADHD , hyperactive spazz who was smart and could figure out anything. But was also so clumsy he would trip over his own feet.

You gave us Lydia Martin. The popular girl who was afraid to show her smarts. The girl who developed into one kick ass character who became unafraid to speak up and share her amazing knowledge.

You gave us Allison argent. The shy new girl, who has had her high highs and low lows. Someone who was able to redeem themselves after everything they’ve done. After she lost very important people in her life. And also gave her life for her best friend. So that she could make sure she was safe.

You gave us derek hale. The misunderstood older bad boy. Whose experiences hardened him. But who does care about people. And would even go back to help his young friend. Someone who’s lost family and been heart broken. Those experiences softened him. And made him a great man.

You’ve given us characters, who we love dearly and will forever hold close in our hearts. You’ve given us a show to watch every week. For the past six years. And for that I thank you. Because this show has really touched a place in my heart, as it has for other fans.

So thank you teen wolf. For one hell of a ride.

Made a new meme referring back to Swifty The Shrew’s ep  in (Season 1 Episode 28 Blue with Envy ) I kinda want sonic to be jealous for a change , he’s gave Amy his fair share of dickishness heh heh , 

The best thing ever would to see Amy fed up with Sonic’s shi* ( The maybies , the freezing he does ha! )and go date someone else just to see how his reaction…would he be jealous ??, not care ??? or would he actually admit if he has feelings for her , like it would give him a push as you know how guys work with feelings ..they just dont wanna know XP lol …. I know its a comedy show but it would bring some nice drama and character development .

The  swifty ep is one of the classics tho for me :

Is Shipping Drama Ruining Star Vs The Forces of Evil?

Originally posted by goku-z

So for the past week or so, I’ve been seeing some people complain about the shipping aspect of the show. They say it takes up too much time, they care more about the story then the relationships, they think all the romance is unnecessary, etc. Heck, I’ve even seen some people saying they are quitting the show just because of they are getting sick of the show just focusing on relationships. Yet while it’s fine if a person decides to quit a show because it starts to do something that the person doesn’t like. I don’t think all of the focus on ships and relationships are ruining the show. If anything, I think it makes the show better.

Originally posted by skleero

I personally have always loved the concept of shipping and I honestly don’t mind a show focusing on it if it actually serves a purpose or it doesn’t interfere with the overarching story. I mean, just looked at how all the relationships and ships in the show have helped develop and flesh out characters.

TomStar is helping Tom and Star grow as characters with Tom trying to overcome his personal and Star trying to move on from Marco (though I have a feeling the relationship won’t last that much longer).

Focusing on Jarco helped develop Marco and Jackie. For Marco, it helped him overcome his insecurities and self doubt by finally making progress when talking to his childhood crush. For Jackie, it helped flesh out her character and became one of the most popular characters in the show since people liked both her and her relationship with Marco.

Then, of course, there’s Starco, the most popular ship of the fandom. Even though the ship isn’t canon (yet) Star and Marco relationship with each other has lead to some fantastic episodes and character growth for both of them. Star has become more mature, open minded,  thanks to Marco influence while Marco has become more adventurous and bold thanks to Star.

Originally posted by cutepicsofstar

The focus on relationships also doesn’t overshadow the big things about the show that nonshippers care about. We have gotten some simple slice of life episode that has no ship focus, have learned more about Mewni, discovered things about the Butterflies, dived into the prejudice that monsters face, got fantastic character development for Ludo, and so much more. Plus since this show does focus on two high school teenagers, it makes more sense for this kind of show to focus on romance than a show like Samurai Jack in which the need for romance was unnecessary and actually did bring down the quality of the show.

Originally posted by luv-lala

So I don’t think shipping is what ruining the show. After all, one of the best things about the show is its characters, and if relationships, whether platonic or romantic help them grow as characters, I see no harm in it. What is ruining the show for some people is how certain shippers in this fandom behave. While they are many people who can calmly and casually talk about ships, they are fans who can be very toxic when discussing ships. They’ll attack other fans for not shipping the same ships as theirs, constantly harass people on the show demanding for Starco or whatever ship to be canon, hate on characters who have done nothing wrong but hate on them anyway cause they threaten their ship, etc. Because of this, some people not only leave the fandom but even quit the show cause they just can’t deal with these shippers since they are ruining the enjoyment of the show. While I’m sure they are these bunch of fans for each of the ship in the show, a lot of it does seem to come from Starco shippers which I find disappointing.  I’m a Starco shipper, and I want it to be canon, but there’s no need for such extreme behavior. Some of my online friends may not ship Starco, but I’m not going to hate them or threaten them because of it.  Want to know why? Cause It’s a fictional relationship which means there’s no excuse why fans should act so annoying.

So in conclusion, I don’t think the focus on relationships is ruining the show, if anything, it has made it even better.  Don’t let toxic shippers ruin the enjoyment of this or any other show for you, and certain fans need to calm down when it comes to talking about ships.

The Problem of the Female Lords

The female lords in FE are a divisive group of characters. While they certainly have their fans, the female mains receive a lot more backlash compared to their male counterparts from the larger community. This is partly due to the way the writer’s handle them within the game’s plot.

Their choices in-game tend to be a lot more controversial (see: Micaiah opting for harsh tactics, Eirika handing over the sacred stone to Lyon, Celica agreeing to help Duma ect.) They all have to share the spotlight with another male lord, whose involvement in the plot often overshadows their own (see: Micaiah and Lyn in particular.) Furthermore, they often develop frightfully little in the core campaign, partly because of said shared spotlight (Lyn suffers the most from this but Celica gets it pretty bad here too.) None of the four female lords are bad characters, at base. They have well developed flaws and goals. However, Fire Emblem plots have never been kind to them. The purpose of this post isn’t to hate on any character, but to criticise some of the writer’s choices in the handling of them. 


Lyn doesn’t suffer from a character problem. Her arc during the tutorial paints her well as a well rounded character, with solid goals, issues and a decent backstory. Her plotline in the tutorial is very well done and it really helps to make her compelling to the gamer. I’d say she’s the most well-liked out of the FE female lords (compounded by her winning the female vote for Heroes.)

Lyn’s issue is that she’s overshadowed the moment Eliwood’s arc begins. I honestly don’t understand why the writers included her at all when she had such little to do, plot wise. They could have continued her arc about her becoming a ruler and her growing distaste with it. She could have acted as a good reflection of Hector’s fears of rulership once his brother dies. She could have helped more with the Black Fang. If her arc from the tutorial had continued, I feel she could have been one of the best FE lords but she’s never given a chance to shine.


Micaiah’s my favourite female Lord in FE. However, I do admit that she has the most issues as a character, massively due to her sharing a spotlight with Ike (who is my favourite Lord overall, but I’ll get back to that.) 

Radiant Dawn suffers from pretty terrible character writing in places. Ike’s pretty much a head that talks for the game’s duration, who’s only redeemed by his PoR incarnation. The Dawn Brigade are largely empty shells as characters, including the prominent Sothe. Many characters with arcs (Pelleas, Skrimir) aren’t fleshed out much beyond their character plotline. Micaiah, too, is affected by these problems.

Micaiah mostly suffers from her motivations being told to the player, instead of shown. We know she adores the people of Daein, but we see very little of her actually interacting with the Daein people. 

I feel Part 1 would have been a lot more appealing if it had been a story of Micaiah slowly deciding to devote herself to the common people, instead of that being her motivation from the beginning. She could have started out as a wandering traveller, joined the Dawn Brigade either because of self-interest or Sothe’s insistence and then taken back Daein after seeing how good the Daein people could be. It would have made her actions in Part 3 make a ton more sense. 

Furthermore, I feel her power to tell future events could have been scrapped. It actually plays very little part in the plot. Micaiah knowing that something bad’s going to happen doesn’t really influence her actions in any meaningful way and it could be written out fairly easily. This should lessen the ‘Mary Sue’ complaints about her. 


Okay, confession time. With the exception of Corrin, Eirika is actually my least favourite lord for the sole reason that I’m not a fan of naive characters. I don’t hate her and Ephraim ranks just above her on my dislike list, but I feel it should be noted. 

Eirika’s problem is that she barely develops at all. The only thing that really changes with her is her view on the Lyon situation. Her stance on war doesn’t change. Her naivety doesn’t improve. Ephraim suffers from a similar issue in that he’s so confident in his tactics but he’s never knocked down a peg. 

Her not developing leads to one of her most frustrating moments; when she hands Lyon the Sacred Stone. Although one could see why she does so, I maintain it shouldn’t have happened. I feel a scene where Lyon tries to persuade her to hand it over, she almost agrees, and then he does something which makes her suspicious would have been a great way to show her developing. 

Eirika isn’t a stupid woman but she believes in the best of everyone. However, I feel the numerous times she’s been betrayed in the game up to that point should have had some pay-off. 


I feel Celica’s issues as a character are the most fixable, as the main thing people complain about in regard to her is how she handles the whole Jedah situation. 

Celica’s problem is that the writers were trying to keep to Gaiden’s core plotline, which involves her being captured for Alm to save. I’d say she has the most developed motivations and flaws out of all the female protagonists; her motivations are explained well, her flaws (her stubbornness, her need to do everything herself) are things which are used against her, which is pretty good character writing. Compared to Ike, whose flaws ‘almost’ get him into trouble but wind up helping him out, and Corrin, whose flaws are excused by almost everyone he meets, Celica’s pretty well written in that regard. Near Leif levels. 

The issue is that her big mistake in trusting Jedah occurs so late, so there’s never a chance for her to truly learn. If it had happened sooner in the plot, then Celica could have had the chance to reflect and consider how she shouldn’t try to do everything on her own. It also would have helped if her friends had been the ones to save her and not Alm, which may have helped to take her out of the damsel-in-distress trope.

Furthermore,  the addition of Conrad serves to weaken her character. Unlike with Clive and Alm (where Clive mostly serves to advise) Conrad saves Celica so many times it’s a little ridiculous, especially since those incidents could have easily been written around. When you consider that Celica seemed like the stronger character of the two in their past memory prism scene, Conrad suddenly being her knight in shining armour seems to come out of nowhere. 

on butchness and growing up

when i was 13-14 a camp counselor assigned me the role of love interest and made me up in a dress and curls because she quote “wanted to see what id look like”

countless times through my youth similar things happened with classmates, friends and adults.

these are experiences that butches are presented with as kids; adults and peers are constantly trying to “fix” us because in their eyes we’re a wrong that can righted, if some charitable soul (them) just “shows us” how to be feminine.

this developes into compulsive femininity nine times out of ten in different stages of a butch woman’s life. im here to say that there is nothing about you that needs to be fixed and you are the best version of yourself you could ever be.

Finishing all the shows I am watching since I got home bound. 

Dear White People: I thought it  would be great, but it is so full of lesbian hatred that I will not ever recommend it. Black women’s sexuality is treated like something they own to black males, the main character (an intelligent articulated women) is guilty tripped by a a male friend to the point of having sex rape with him as a way to “help” him get over a racist attack he suffered. There are at least 3 jokes on lesbians, despite the show having ZERO actual lesbians. There is a supposed one, a Professor that betrays her female partner with an underage male student.. yeah, talk about portraying lesbianism as a deviant dirty little lie. 

The Handmaid’s Tale: I enjoyed it, but again, the heterosexual love plot (June and Nick) makes me feel sick. I also do not understand how in this dystopian society racism is not an issue anymore. I also think Moira and  Ofglen (i don’t remember her real name) really deserved more time and more flashbacks. Why the lesbian characters can’t be in the spotlight of the show?

3%: Finally a brazilian show! yeah! The production was very low budget what explains some of the weird plastic made scenarios. I also hate the heterosexual love plot. But I absolutely love the finale where Joana (my favorite character) just delivers some truths and blows everything up. Her soundtrack was superb with Elza Soares music.  

The Expanse: I LOVE space sci-fi, but to be honest I started watching The Expanse because the actress on the promotional covers looks like one of the girls of Warpaint (my favorite band), not a very noble reason, but I ended up loving the series. The story is well developed, lots of strong female characters, and I can’t wait for season two. 

The Tunnel: I saw some reviews and decided to watch it, I saw the two seasons in two days, so yeah, it was good. It is a British-French production starred by the same actress who plays Fleur Delacour in Harry Potter. SHE IS THE BEST. I LOVED HER so freaking much I couldn’t stop watching. And in season 2, as I suspected, she turns out to be a lesbian. The show is about terrorist crimes, and does not fall into muslin hatred, which is good. 

Call the Midwife: IT IS GREAT. It has feminist nuns, lesbians, a lot of female acts of bravery. So we can ignore the whole british blablabla stuff. I highly recommend. Did I say I loved the nuns?  Sister Monica Joan is my spiritual self. 

anonymous asked:

Your Voight post made me think, and I think CPD doesn't get enough appreciation re: how they seem to effortlessly go against a lot of toxic masculinity. Like, there's been any issues with the guys crying or expressing their love for each other, and it's never made into a joke or followed with a no homo reaction or smthn like that and idk I guess I really appreciate the male friendships in CPD. Even the rest of the franchise doesn't do so well as this imo (not counting justice bc it's still new)

You know I started replying to this and then I realised that I’ve never really thought about the male characters in that much depth…I’m the first to sing about how amazing Erin and Burgess are, as well as male characters individually, but when I really thought about how well the men have been created, I ended up with an entire essay so apologies it’s so long but I just love this show and these guys. Also since there’s been a lot of negativity in light of *cough* recent events, I thought it would be nice to show my appreciation, so here goes. Feel free to add examples/contradictions/points/other ideas etc!!

Something I need to say before beginning: I find it really, really difficult to empathise with male characters. It’s just harder for me to really relate to their issues. And I think a huge reason for this is just that being a female character in these shows and these professions is just harder. And therefore there are a certain amount of fundamental difficulties that each female character has to face, and since being a female in general involves a lot of these struggles, it’s much easier for other women to look at these characters and see themselves in them. Look at Erin and Burgess struggling to keep their hard work and intelligence a more valuable feature to their unit than their bodies. Look at April and Maggie trying not to be undermined by their male, more qualified co-workers - and Manning being a single, working mum. Look at Gabby beating the odds and becoming a firefighter even though no one thinks she can do it because she’s small and female.

And I love that this show can do that: take these vital professions and give them amazing, well developed, multifaceted female characters whose constant struggles are so relatable for any female watching because we’ve all been there.

But what PD does that I just don’t see so much in the others (Fire does it to an extent, but I can’t really think of any examples in Med - although it’s my least favourite and so I’m probably not the best person to make analyses based on it, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong) is do the same with the males. And it’s something that I have never seen on a TV show before. There’s no “no-homo” bullshit, there’s no reservations around being friends. They hug each other when they’re worried about them, they do the friendly shoulder squeezes and arm-punches and fist-bumps. They go out for drinks together. They trust each other and look out for each other and they talk to each other about how they feel. And it’s really, really nice to see.

People go the extra mile when writing female characters (although admittedly, as a teenage girl I’m probably not using the widest sample range of TV shows) because they know that either a) their audience is mostly female, or b) they’re worried about sexist accusations. Women have always been victims of horrible media tropes, so I’m so, so glad that they do go this extra mile - I love seeing female friendships more than anything else in the world - but because people are so aware of the issue surrounding female characters, they’ve taken that into consideration, while assuming that there isn’t actually a problem with their male characters.

What Chicago PD does that I think is incredible from a characterisation point of view is they take these archetypal cop characters - the dirty cop (Voight), the by-the-book cop (Antonio), the shell-shocked veteran cop (Halstead), the old-cop young cop (Ruzek and Ollinsky) and the gentle giant (Attwater). **there are more, such as Attwater arguably being the “token minority” and Ruzek being the “fair cop” but you get the idea. They all seem to represent one of the main tropes that are almost always present in cop shows (at least all the ones I’ve watched).

And the show doesn’t subvert the tropes, not exactly - even though doing so would be so much easier - but they three-dimensialise (idk if that’s a word just roll with me here) all the characters on top of these fundamental archetypes. ie:

  • Voight is a dirty cop. He kills people in the name of justice, he’s used dirty money and lied under oath and done things that probably should have lost him his badge a million times. And yet, he works tirelessly for the protection of his city. He loves his son with everything he has, and his grandson, and his daughter-in-law. He took in a 13(?) year old who’d been hooked on heroin and arrested for solicitation and loves her like she’s his own daughter. He made amends with the guy who put his son in jail. He always, always fights for the underdog and doesn’t let the system take advantage of them. He treats his unit as if they are his “family” - literally his words - and he has formed relationships with every single one of them, bending the rules and putting his neck and badge on the line if they ever do anything wrong or against the rules. (Example: 3x05)
  • Antonio plays by the rules, that’s just who he is. He believes in the system more than Voight does, arguably because he’s always been on the right side of it. But that doesn’t mean he’s not willing to make compromises if those he really cares about are on the line - he is more than willing to turn a blind eye to other people’s ‘interpretations’ of the law, and he will do everything in his power to fight his way using the rules of the system before he breaks them. (1x02, 3x01)
  • Halstead’s military history I think is one of the most interesting aspects of this show because he had the potential to turn into a “cold sniper” as I think is the norm with ex-military characters, and yeah, he was affected in ways that we don’t even know - and may never fully understand - by what he saw and did in his tour(s). But he’s so selfless and sweet and supportive. His PTSD and general commitment issues mean that he can’t open up to everyone but he still lets them open up to him, being Erin’s #1 supporter, and he’s finally started to work on looking after his mental health properly and learning how to ask for help. He’s kind and caring and understands the importance of sacrifice and, like Voight, is willing to bend the rules a little bit - even if he’s always there to question Voight’s methods. (3x17, 4x18 - deleted scene)
  • Ruzek is the token rookie of the show, and the audience is placed in the same boat as him when initially learning the ropes of the unit and how everyone fits. He’s the young and attractive one (I mean….), and he does exhibit those typical rookie traits: he’s rash and reckless and cocky and definitely not as cynical as any of the others, but at the same time he has a huge heart, he’s sweet and caring, and he can be as tough as hell when someone he loves is in danger. He doesn’t have the “tortured romantic” side to him and he has a typical cop family tree, but he’s the person I feel like most people can probably relate to - someone who puts themselves in harm’s way every single day for no reason other than he wants to make a difference. (1x01, 1x11)
  • Ollinsky is the other dirty cop, although he functions more as an assistant to the dirty cop. He has the tough coldness about him that you would probably expect Jay to have instead, if following these tropes by the book, and he comes across as very sinister and quite scary. And yet he is an absolute darling around Lexi and Michelle and when Lexi died and Meredith was kidnapped, he totally lost control. Despite all the coldness and being closed-off he is perhaps the most emotional of them all, grieving and crying and not caring about how tough he is when someone he loves is threatened. (4x16)
  • Attwater is the gentle giant of the show and although this doesn’t need much more explaining, he, alongside Erin, is also the token minority of the unit (even more so now that Antonio’s left and Burgess has joined Erin in Intelligence) and although this trope is constantly seen as a bad thing, using a token character to avoid criticism of being racist in casting choices, in PD Attwater opens the door to addressing cases of police racism, corruption and brutality against ethnic minorities, and the episodes in which they do deal with this, Attwater is quick to express his opinion on the matter and challenge within seconds everything that’s wrong with the institution and their society. But on top of all that, he has relatives in prison, he’s expected to be a big tough “scary black man”, but in actuality he looks after his two younger siblings and does stand-up comedy and probably gives the best bear hugs ever.

And the support system that these six men have together (or five, now that Antonio’s left) is incredible to watch. They understand barriers, they know when to push and when to give each other space, they all work together so well in such a potentially toxic environment without even a hint at this hyper-masculinity that is so huge in other cop shows. They’re all just bros.

What’s also great is that even though there’s a lil bit of that bro-masculine culture especially when Erin goes undercover and dresses up all nice, they’re never anything but perfect gentlemen. There’s no teasing and no sexist remarks about her legs or whatever, they all just seem genuinely impressed by how pretty she looks and how well she does her job. Adam even says things like “there’s about a thousand things I could say right now but won’t” because they all respect Erin and Burgess and support them as much as each they do each other. They don’t care if the women do better jobs than them, or save them, or shoot more accurately than them, and they’d never dream of undermining their femininity while doing so.

Other examples of the bros being bros:

  • Antonio getting Jay into the unit in the first place as a thank you for helping out Gabby (Chicago Fire, season 2 sometime, mentioned later when Antonio leaves)
  • Voight literally crying on Alvin’s shoulder after Justin’s death
  • Every single one of Jay and Mouse’s interactions, especially when they talk about their time in the military and Jay realises how much he cares about his friend when Mouse wants to re-enlist and when Mouse is taken hostage (4x05, 3x03)
  • Antonio and Voight’s entire friendship and the fact that Voight would go to such measures to help Diego even after Antonio was the one to put the cuffs on and send him to jail
  • Attwater and Ruzek being bros until the end and *sniff* the whole best man thing 
  • They all buy Antonio a zimmer frame when he gets shot isn’t that just beautiful
  • Ruzek hugging Al after Lexi’s death and his little “I don’t know what to say” and “can I hug you?” - like he knows Al might just want space but he has to let him know he’s there for him
  • They all get so upset when Jay is taken. Just watch the scene where they see the video of his torture and their faces break me. They can’t handle the idea that someone so close to them - their brother - is in so much pain. (3x01)
  • Seriously tho just look at these bros

Originally posted by jayhalsteadcpd

So I was just gonna write a few paragraphs and sorry this is so long but feel free to add more!! I want to know what everyone else thinks!

First of all yes i know that mogeko is free to do whatever they want but that doesnt mean i cant talk about my opinion or give them criticism. Second, excuse how i write here. its late and im salty. Ofc dont attack mogeko like come on.

Part 1 yay:

The one year sataivlis (and the little bit of licorice) spam fucking sucks. it was fun in the begging because we learned some stuff but thats it tbh. And some of the “character development” isn’t even necessary??

Like legit why does Licorice have to like Ivlis. Whats the point?? why would you take the one person that protected him and make him rape him?? It would be best if that was never added.

Why do the new comics need to exist? Whats the point of the torture porn? it just feels like mogeko is feeding their fetish (which isnt wrong but fetishes are supposed to be private) and dont tell me that its character development because oo boy the only thing that it shows is that satanick is an ass and that ivlis suffers which we already knew after the 28482387 other comics that they made. If its for a fetish its best to be kept private, if not, its not needed and adds nothing other than “oOOooo satanick is bad”

Bad writing should not be credited

Can we please focus on something else for once? What about all the other characters that are being neglected? Yes mogeko made a new character recently but she doesnt even have a name. Its kinda annoying to have all these cool looking characters and know fuck all about them because Satan 1 and Satan 2 take the spotlight. Variety is important for keeping a fanbase alive.

What about all the other stories?? Obsolete Dream is dead, Mogeko Castle Gidan has been dead for such a long time and so has Poison Bugs. We havent gotten any updates for Carnival Rhythm and The End Of Wonderland in forever and there are so many more stories that are under-developed. How do they end and how do they begin? Are the characters bad or good? Who’s the main character even?? Looks like we’ll never know or it wont be anytime soon. 

My friend (@jinx-nyx) pointed out that a lot of important characters are ignored and dude do i agree with this. Reficul is ignored to hell, Rosaliyas info is always the same (as they said “ Liliya fucked with her,she cried and she went all roast mode on him” which is hella true lol). Zeus and Hades get some art from time to time and thats it. Justim and Vicers are just kinda there and etc.

Also ima just point out that giving exceptions to a gay dude (ivlis) is so stupid. Mogeko, thats not how it works.

Part 2 nay:

Now lets talk about the fandom. First of all, this isnt attacking anyone in specific and secondly, i know that the fandom isnt what defines the source material. Im not talking about mogeko personally here.

I considered talking about the absolutely stupid drama that the fandom has started a while back buuuut we all have heard about it and if you havent im gonna sum them up real quick. Note that these dont go into great detail so if you are curious go search for more shit. Judge for yourself:

  • The salwada drama that directly involved mogeko. They drew some nsfw and the fandom went nuts. This is why they no longer have a tumblr account. 
  • The pyokeke drama. I personally saw this happen and it was bad. Mogeko wasnt directly involved. Some DSP fans thought that pyokekes art was too similar, they sent them death threats and pyokeke left the internoot. They are back now thought! Heres their twitter:

Next thing. I know that romanticizing abusive ships happens in every fandom but why is it so intense here? Satanicks and Ivlis’ relationship is h o r r i b l e but people draw them being lovey dovey and happy. You are allowed to dream but damn at least admit that it will never ever happen.

The fandom is aggressive. It can be borderline dangerous sometimes. Yes that sounds dumb but its true (for me at least) and you can tell me that its a minority but thats not an excuse now, is it? The minority is so loud and gross that it cant be ignored. Then there are the people that get angry over fucking everything and the (rare) crazy fans that will kill you if you talk badly about mogeko.


Dont kill me for this. Im not attacking anyone in specific nor am i attacking mogeko. I am simply pointing out flaws. You can disagree but dont be an ass about it. 

On the bright side, there are some truly great and talented people in the fandom. Mogeko has some truly great stories as well, they just arent explored anymore which is simply disappointing.