cave-scene

[during the cave scene]

Katara: I’m sorry I reacted the way I did… You’re from the Fire Nation…

Zuko: Oh, well, I’m not with the Fire Nation anymore; it’s just me.

Katara: [sympathetically] Just you? Just you, how could that be?

Zuko: Well, I- I was the Fire Nation prince, but they kicked me out.

Katara: Why?

Zuko: Ah, well, you know how sometimes there’ll be a pack of coyote-hawks that are feasting on a rabbit-lizard, and there’s always one small, runt of a coyote-hawk that’s being kept from the meal?

Katara: [understandingly] Yes.

Zuko: I’m like the rabbit-lizard.

[long, awkward pause]

Katara: …Oh.

Why this was the most emotional love scene yet on GOT (imo, at least)

Let’s start with the obvious: The Stare
Wow. They look like they just want to drown in each other’s eyes. It’s absolutely beautiful - especially when you take into account the line from season one about finding love in a person’s eyes. And the best part about it is that line was said to Daenerys… Not to Jon. She initiated that stare with Drogo. And we never had anything like that between her and Daario or Jon and Ygritte. But now, Jon initiates it. He pulls back of his own choice just to stare at her. (I mean if that cave scene with Ygritte didn’t prove the man has great instincts, this one sure as hell does.) And regardless of whether or not Dany remembered the line, she’s completely mesmerized when she sees the love in Jon’s eyes.

Next: The Kissing
They kiss lip on lip only. There’s no sucking or licking on any other part of the body. Now, don’t get me wrong… there’s nothing bad about kissing other parts of the body but in this case, it illustrates the connection they have. I mean, there’s a reason Julia Robert’s character in Pretty Woman didn’t kiss on the mouth - ‘It’s too personal’. There’s something deeply emotional about it that just isn’t as strong when kissing other places.

Now, on to: The Positions
I love that it starts with Dany on top and then switches to Jon. It just goes to show that they are equals once again. Neither is dominant over the other. This is a relationship of respect for each other as much as it is about attraction. And I truly believe that deep emotional love requires mutual respect.

Lastly, and this is the biggest one for me: The (lack of) Nudity
Yes, you heard me right: The lack of nudity. Sure, you can see Jon’s ass (and gorgeous it is, too) and you can see that they’re both bare, but all the important bits stay covered. This is not the norm for HBO or GOT, masters of the 'Let’s add as much shock value as we can by putting them in some impractical position just so we can get a full frontal of the female’ mentality. And, honestly, I’m a little shocked that they didn’t jump at the chance to show Emilia in all her glory again. But they didn’t. Which, to me, says so much about the tone the scene was supposed to imply. They didn’t cheapen it with nudity. They didn’t go for an awkward camera angle just so they could get a shot of Emilia’s chest. In fact, they didn’t even get a shot of Kit’s chest, either. Their bodies stay plastered together the whole time which prevents any important bits from being seen - even when he flips them over. They’re two people who want to be as close to each other as they can. They’re not just having sex. They’re not just fucking. They’re not just testing it out to see if Jon’s swimmers are better than Daario’s. No, this is a deep bond. They’re in love. The lack of nudity implies romance because they don’t want to detract or distract from the longing looks and passionate kisses.

Which leads me to the honorable mention: Hand Placement
Again, this is about keeping it romantic. Their hands never roam below the waist. Dany keeps her hand on his back. Jon keeps his on her face. (My only wish here is that Dany’s hair had been down so he could runs his fingers through it.) But again, grabby hands would have distracted from and cheapened the moment and they didn’t want focus pulled from what was going on in their faces.

Say what you want about how short the scene was or how we didn’t get to see the first kiss (I admit it, I’m disappointed, too) but this was by far the most loving sex scene they’ve had on this show.

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“In the cave scene, where Jon takes Daenerys to take the cave markings, I think there is a lot of subtle chemistry happening there between the two of them, and even just Daenerys taking that tiny step forward to Jon before she asks him to bend the knee. There’s a lot of tension in that that I think comes from just two great actors in that darker, more intimate location. Daenerys, of course, as she loses allies, is trying to gain one in the King of the North, so there’s very much a political dialogue happening in the scene. But it’s also undeniable that there’s something happening between them personally, as well,, Matt Shakman Director of 7x04

The Spoils of War aka the ship sails

You ever feel mildly annoyed when you happen to read an anti’s stupidly illogical comment on your ship? And by mildly of course I mean majorly bothered so that the only cure is repeatedly watching your favorite Jonerys scenes until you’re so immersed in the beauty of their love that nothing can get to you anymore? 😍💖

And then of course, you just have to write about it because how else will you be able to get a handle on the mishmash of emotions that just take over you like? 💖💖😍

And this episode man. Just. This. This episode I tell you!!! I’m a regular GoT fan, which basically means that I’ve learnt to have certain expectations from the show, especially regarding love. And I can honestly say that never in my life could I have imagined that GoT would give me a romance as sweet as this!

The first Jonerys scene in this episode:

Had me laughing so hard! 

The look on Dany’s face, it’s just so suggestive! And Jon’s interruption itself is so timely just.. We aren’t ever going to forget Jon’s first cave episode ever are we? And the particular expertise he surprised us all by? 😂👏🏻 I mean how much more of a throwback could this be to to the Jon/Ygritte cave sequence? And as if that by itself wasn’t enough, he takes her to a cave! My boy Jon is unbeatable at cuteness, fight me!

By this time, it’s obvious that a considerable amount of time has already passed since Jon arrived on Dragonstone, and also that their relationship has definitely improved since the whole initial ‘bend the knee’ scene, and the cave scene totally shows this! Now I know that people have been complaining that their love is so rushed, and doesn’t make sense but I strongly disagree. With fewer (Stannis and Davos simultaneously approve) episodes and the decision to only show the focal interactions between Jonerys, what’s illogical is to assume that they have had no interaction offscreen which got them to the point that Dany doesn’t need her whole entourage to tag along when Jon wants to show her something. 

Which gets me to the ‘hoooolyyy shiiiiiiit, I ship them and I ship them hard dammit!!’ moment of the entire show!!! Look at this!!

Just!!!

Remember my favorite romantic trope of ‘looking when the other person is not’?? The only thing that ups that is ‘looking while the other person is completely fascinated by something else! There is legit nothing else which can make me melt as fast as this! Because it’s so simply pure! Like, you’re watching the other person be mesmerized by something you’re showing them! You’re watching them lost in wonder, so taken by what they’re seeing. And they’re so absorbed in their own world at that moment, they don’t even notice you doing that while I’m here completely losing it!!!

Plus, it also totally reminded me of one of my favoritest Disney movies ever!

*melts*


And this look!!! You know, I think this is probably one of the first times when Jon Snow was giving off the ‘you know nothing, but you’re so cute when you’re clueless and I get to show off’ vibes! 😂💖 


And this scene, oh my heart!!

This has to be the most non sexual and romantic physical contact on GoT ever! I can’t imagine any other moment when a simple arm touch like that (totally unnecessary, by the way, Jon. my boy’s got the moves though!) has got me shipping people so hard!!


Another thing which got me was how it was Jon who held her arm, our Jon (I’m never going to get over this!), reaching out to her in such a familiar comfortable gesture, when he could simply have walked ahead and shown her that. Basically, our Jon having the confidence to just take her arm like that, and the closeness (which lasts 0.00001 seconds, but it’s enough for a lifetime for me!💖), and the delicateness and the intense feels! 

And the softness? Apart from the way Jon kept looking at Dany and the arm touch, what I loved was how soft and mellow they both were around each other. Even though Dany still wanted him to ‘bend the knee’, not only was she softer, but she was so much more reasonable than in her throne room, where the attitude was ‘bend the knee you rebel, or i’ll destroy you after i’m finished with Cersei’; here, she is nudging him so much more gently than she had earlier. Jon, on his part, gives her an actual reason as to why he can’t submit to her, as opposed to his own stance earlier - ‘why would i give the north to you, stranger?’ Jon knows his people, and he knows they are not going to accept a Southern ruler, especially not a Targaryen. (which is realistic, those Northern lords are a task), he’s basically telling her that he’s not refusing because he wants to keep his title or anything so shallow as all that, it’s his people. And the puppy eyes in this scene only make it sooooo much better! 

And then there’s this!

The symbolism of ‘ice and fire’ being reinforced aside, they are shown so beautifully to be equals here, in sync, working towards the same goals! If that isn’t enough to start wanting them together…


This whole cave scene basically set up that Jon is definitely starting to develop feelings for her, which is only to be expected because she’s beautiful enough to warrant that attraction, and plus, Jon is starting to know her and realize that she’s not her father, or Cerse,i or bad or evil or batshit crazy or any of those things Targaryens are reputed to be. Dany’s trust in Jon is shown right in the following scene, when she disregards all her other advisors and turns to Jon, because she has come to know, that this is a man who will always put the realm first, a man whom she can trust to give her the truth keeping the people in mind, a man with no other motive than to save his people against all odds. 


Then again, there are the neverending parallels between them:

It is emphasized again and again how, despite their seeming differences, they share certain values and experiences with each other, which again serves to bring them closer together.


Now what I found really important was this:

I live for Ser Davos’ dialogues! But what’s important to note is Jon’s reply:

There’s no time for that.

Now, if he had really been trying to seduce Dany according to the antis (which I am definitely not going to believe in), it would have been far more natural for him to just be quiet about this.

If Mister Honor Incarnate is actually setting aside his honor for the greater good, it is definitely not going to come without an internal struggle. This guy has lived all his life by a strict moral code, and to set it aside will not be easy, especially considering manipulation is not his forte. 

So, if he had been trying to seduce her, he would be ashamed of it, he would hate himself for doing that, and when Ser Davos would have teased him about it, he definitely wouldn’t have replied with “there’s no time for that,” since according to some antis, that is his exact plan and there’s all the time for it!

But Jon doesn’t look pensive or even slightly uncomfortable. He doesn’t deny it, or even stare blankly at Davos like ‘what are you talking about?’. 

No. 

He simply says there is no time for it, and you know why he does that? Because right now, his sole mission in life is taking down the Night King, ensure the survival of the living, he doesn’t have time to fall in love and allow himself to be sidetracked. 

Jon basically is treating his second life as some sort of ‘serving the greater cause’, he doesn’t seem to think he can focus on anything other than the Night King, especially not something personal as fall for Daenerys. Also, he knows that falling for her will only lead to complications, since the North is staunchly against the Targaryens. He doesn’t want to analyse his feelings for her because it will lead him down a rabbit hole he doesn’t think he should be ‘wasting’ his time on. God, he has such a heroic aura around him, turning away from any possible personal desire for the greater good. Jon, why do you have to be so good! Of course, he’ll eventually end up changing his mind in the most glorious way possible and I just! 💖😍


Also, they have the epicest couple line! 

*jonerys feels intensify*

The Dothraki fighting in the open field lead by Dany on a dragon is by far the most epic and glorious battle on GoT ever. It’s totally worth watching the leaked episode. This was Wonder Woman no man’s land scene x 10 for me. Still haven’t recovered. I didn’t know it was possible for me to be any more Deanerys trash! 

*Spoiler alert*

Jon and Dany freggin touch. I literally screamed during that cave scene with just the two of them!

I don’t buy it - Jon isn’t “a northern fool”

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!! SPOILERS FOR LEAKED EP 6 AHEAD !!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just don’t buy it. I still believe that Jon is playing Danielle (btw we are using this name so it won’t show up in the search, not as an insult), going “undercover” as he did with the wildlings, to ensure she helps against the white walkers. Want to know why? Keep reading, but I warn you this got … very, very, very long. 

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Jon and Dany's relationship Explaination

From reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/6vpsrm/jon_and_dany_relationship_explanation/

u/solomon585858 Aug 24, 2017, 2:49 AM
I found this comment on YouTube and thought it would’ve been a waste not to post it here:

I’ve seen alot of comments lately that Jon and Danys romantic relationship is rushed, forced and/or pure fanfiction. I think these statements are wrong and that their relationship is actually one of the better, if not the best written and developed romantic relationship in the series. I’m gonna break down why I think so - beware, long f*cking post ahead:

So, how when exactly does Dany and Jon start having feelings for eachother and why? First off, it’s worth noting that time passes off-screen as well. Sansa tells us that Jon as been gone “for weeks”. We don’t know exactly how many, it could be 3, or 7. Point is that the show leaves plenty of time for Dany and Jon to actually develop feeling for each other, it’s nothing that happens over the course of 2 days. If you’re around someone you like for several weeks, chances are that you will start having romantic feelings for said person.

It’s also worth noting that both of these characters repress their feelings and do their best to hide it from the other. Jon is better at repressing his emotions because of his personality. He has a strong sense of duty and purpose, and probably the highest willpower in Westeros, and in his mind, the nr.1 goal is to defeat the Night King. Unlike Robb, Jon won’t let love distract him. This is shown in the series as well, because we know for a fact that Dany and Jon love each other by the end of episode 5, and Dany has already cracked down and done two attempts (albeit half-heartedly) to show Jon her feelings for him by this point. He doesn’t reciprocate her advances though (he still manages to repress his feelings), which she interprets that he doesn’t love her. I actually believe that Dany was sincere when she said that “Jon Snow doesn’t love me” to Tyrion in episode 6, she truly believed that he didn’t at that point.

So how did it all progress? We start in episode 3 with their first meeting. It doesn’t start well, and it shouldn’t. Dany does her usual “Submit to me, I’m the rightful Queen”-speech wich usually makes people either threaten or submit to her. Jon does neither, which she finds intriguing. She doesn’t like him at this point, but she doesn’t dislike him either. Jon on the other hand, shows some seriously bad diplomatic skills, which Tyrion points out later in the episode, but he’s never rude or disrespects her, even when he asks if he’s her prisoner now. By this point, both know that the other have been trough various stages of hell before they came here.

In the next scene, they talk alone. Unsurprisingly, they find it easier to talk to eachother when there’s not a room full of people watching them. There’s some more disagreements, but Dany takes the first step at improving their relationship with the Dragonglass, and Jon can barely hide his surprise. Dany get’s curious about Jons comment regarding him not liking what he’s good at (which is a trowback to what Ser Barristan Selmy told Dany about her brother Rhaegar earlier: He was good at killing, but he never liked it) and throws a curious glance at Jons back when he leaves. End of episode 3 - They are friendly to eachother, and both are curious about the other. Not really any romance worth mentioning going on as of yet.

In episode 4 their relationship improves further. Dany trusts Jon enough at this point to leave her guards behind, and why shouldn’t she? He’s never been hostile to her. In the cave Dany’s resolve weakens somewhat when she see’s the paintings. She still wants Jon to submit, but now she’s trying to reason with him instead of simply demanding that he submits. Jon brings up why he can’t bend the knee for the first time, instead of just saying that he won’t. We also get to see Jon showing some feelings for Dany at the first time during this scene, when he eyes her constantly every time she looks away or looks at the wallpaintings. Davos brings this up later in the episode, and Jon doesn’t deflect but freely admits that he is eyeing her out. He also states that there’s no time for that kind of relationship with Dany.

After the cave-scene Dany looses her temper with Tyrion when he brings the bad news. It’s debatable if she’s being unfair to Tyrion, but he is her hand and it was his plans that went to hell. Surprisingly, Dany turns to Jon for advice, and he not only gives her good advice, he also manages to soothe her firey temper. Jons ice soothes Danys fire. Quite beautiful in a way. End of episode 4 - Relationship improves. They are not just friendly to eachother, but they now trust eachother. Both have at this point secretly shown interest in the other. No romance, but something is definitely growing.

In episode 5 things are starting to happen, and we get to see Dany having real feelings for Jon during this episode, even if she barely acts on them. Dany is clearly affected by Drogon and Jon having a moment. She’s surprised and intrigued by what happens, and finds it very attracting. This has been confirmed by the showwriters and Emilia Clarke if it wasn’t already obvious in the show; Dany got attracted to Jon in this scene. During their smalltalk later Jon is eying Dany out again, and what could’ve been a somewhat intimate moment about Jon having been killed and reborn is halted by Ser Jorah Friendzone, first of his name.

In the next scene, Dany is for the first time, albeit not intentionally, open about her feelings for Jon. Both Tyrion and Jorah picks up on this. She clearly doesn’t want Jon to leave, especially not on what is essentially a suicide mission. She does a half-hearted attempt at preventing his departure. In episode 3, she would’ve forcefully prevented him from leaving, but now in episode 5, her feelings for Jon have changed drastically. If anything, she seems to approve of Jon telling her that he doesn’t need her permission to do anything. She’s a Queen, but he’s a King. We know that Dany is attracted to strong men who treat her with respect and as an equal. No more attempts at making Jon bend the knee.

During the third and last scene in episode 5, Dany actually opens up to Jon about how she likes having him around. Jon does not reciprocate her feelings however (he probably wants to, but as we know, he’s telling himself that he doesn’t have time for a romance right now) and she wrongly interprets this as a sign that he doesn’t have any romantic feelings for her. Again, I think Dany was 100% sincere in episode 6 when she thought that “Jon Snow isn’t in love with me”. Up to this point, Jon has only shown his romantic feelings for Daenerys when she isn’t looking. How can she know? End of Episode 5 - Friendly relationship has grown into the start of a romantic relationship. Dany is clearly having romantic feelings for Jon at this point and can barely repress them. Jon has feelings for Dany as well, but unlike her, he can still repress them and hasn’t shown them yet.

Now, I’m not gonna delve deep into episode 6, since with all that’s happened during episode 3,4,5 and that happens during episode 6, I’d say the emotional development between Dany an Jon makes 100% sense. Dany’s feelings are obvious at this point (even if she tries to deflect them when Tyrion prods her), and when she flies north she is totally in love with Jon. Jon likewise finally cracks down in the end. Amazing what another near-death experience can do to your emotions right?

Their feelings for eachother at this point makes sense; they have alot of things in common (que mandatory “including genes”-joke,). They’ve both had a long and arduous journey to get to this point. Both have followers who follow them, not out of fear, but out of respect and love. Both have strong feelings on how to rule for the betterment of the people. Both have been reborn in a way, and both have suffered greatly but managed to come back. Both are considered special by the people around them, and in eachother they meet a person who treats them like no one else has ever done before:

Jon likes strong women, and Dany is by far the strongest (both in terms of willpower, determination and actual power) he’s ever met. He likes that Dany, like himself, is willing to do things the hard way if it’s the right way, and that she ultimately came to his aid when he needed it the most, even if she didn’t have to. She put her money where her mouth is and he’s clearly attracted to her and the stories surrounding her as well, but he won’t admit it.

Dany on the other hand is used to the fact that most strong men she meet either try to trample on her, take advantage of her, or simply care about her for her power and beauty. Que Jon Snow, elected King who treats her with nothing but respect, and as an absolute equal and who shares her view on ruling (people come first.) He also doesn’t seem to care about her due to her power and beauty (unlike Daario who only cared about Dany because of her power and good looks). All of these are qualities that she finds intriguing. Jon pose a “challenge” for her in a whole new way; he won’t submit but he won’t relent. Then add the fact that Jon for some “mysterious” reason can pet and be near her dragons, which no other man has ever been able to and the attraction makes total sense.

The culmination of their relation as of episode 6, and in my opinion the most beautiful thing in their relation so far, is how Jon metaphorically bends the knee in a situation where it’s pointless for him to do so.

This shows how much Jon actually loves and believes in her at this stage. He doesn’t bend the knee out of a strategical advantage or in order to get her support anymore, he does it out of pure respect and love for a woman who was willing to risk everything in order to help and save him and his men, even if she didn’t believe in him at first.

Their love is mutual, beautiful, logical and not a single bit forced. By far the best romantic relation portrayed in this show so far. Jon is Ice, Dany is Fire, and this is the Song of Ice and Fire.