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JTIV On Naming Cass Orphan

I know there’s a lot of Cass fans who don’t like Orphan and wish she was again Black Bat.

But JTIV makes some good points and certainly seems to have thought it out.

Aside from the in-universe rational for using Orphan and not Black Bat, there’s a big real-world business issue:

BLACK BAT is trademarked by DYNAMITE CHARACTERS, LLC

Take a look at the Wikipedia page for Black_Bat. It’s a pre-Batman comics name that is currently trademarked by a non-DC comics company.

If DC ever wanted to do a Cass solo or more likely a mini-series, titling it “Black Bat” wouldn’t work.

DC Comics owns (and owned) the trademark for “Batgirl” which is why we had Cassie star in Batgirl back in the day. As we know, there was zero chance she’d get a title while she was Black Bat. We barely ever got Black Bat Cass as a guest.

Lastly, names can change though in general I’m not hoping for a change. The way new Cass is being written in BRE and DC plus JTIV’s comments about her naming have been very satisfying.



@reverseflcsh tweeted:

@JamesTheFourth One more question. Why did you give Cass the alias Orphan instead of Black Bat?



@JamesTheFourth tweeted:

The name Black Bat never really defined who she was. Orphan embodies the distance between Cass and her world.

Distance from her Father, who made her this way, whose name she is trying to reforge to prove she can reforge herself

Distance from Batman whose ideals she’s trying to live up to, but she can’t forgive herself from the life she took.

Distance from other “ordinary” children of the world who even if they didn’t have literal parents, had some kind of love that shaped them.

Cass will always have a lonely side to her, a distance from the world. Black Bat didn’t speak to that. Orphan does.

Orphan is a name that she can wield that could serve her far outside of Gotham.

A name, where if we build her right, Orphan becomes a DC character, not a Batman character.


Bat Family - Lunch time

(ok the size is crap, check ^ link in the title for bigger picture)

I just really like the idea of Bruce being Dad. And you know - in the end he has a lot of kids. And I know that i mixed all the universes but like I said - I like the idea that Bruce has a lot of kids

If you’re wondering. From the top: Richard, Helena, Jason, Tim, Cass, Damian, on Bruce hands - Terry ^^

find me here>x

or my redbubble

Over the course of the comics and the extremely messed-up DC continuity
  • Bruce:*brings home Richard*
  • Bruce:I is batdad now
  • Alfred:Oh goodie, Master Bruce, a child! He will brighten up this manor in no time!
  • Bruce:*brings home Jason*
  • Bruce:I GOT ANOTHER ONE :D
  • Alfred:Oh, a brother for Master Richard... well, the more the merrier!
  • Bruce:*brings home Tim*
  • Bruce:ALFRED LOOK!!!
  • Alfred:... very well, Master Bruce...
  • Bruce:*brings home Cass*
  • Bruce:I GOT A GIRL THIS TIME!!!
  • Alfred:*sigh* we really need to have a chat, Master Bruce.
  • Bruce:*brings home Damian*
  • Bruce:ALFRED I MADE A THING THIS IS THE ONE THING THAT I MADE :))))
  • Alfred:.... no more, Master Bruce. Five is enough.
  • Bruce:*brings home Helena*
  • Bruce:A SMOL PRETTY DAUGHTER I MADE WITH SELINA ALFRED PLEASE
  • Alfred:...
  • Dick:So, yeah, uh, Kory's pregnant.
  • Kory:*has Mar'i*
  • Kory:*dies of some illness*
  • Dick:*asks Bruce to babysit Mar'i one day*
  • Bruce:*brings home Mar'i*
  • Bruce:ALFRED I HAVE A GRANDDAU-
  • Alfred:NO