can we all agree that by the end of s1 they were already in love

Why there HAS to be a 4th episode or A quick reminder of everything that is fucky

I know that lately it has become difficult to keep believing in the existence of a fourth episode, one the fandom has decided to call the Lost Special. So this post has nothing but the goal to lay down the hard facts that prove not only the existence of that episode but also the necessity of it.

This is a collection of reasons why we believe in a Lost Special, all at the same place. No Arg, no speculations, no hard meta, just the irrefutable evidence we’ve gathered that shows how something is terribly wrong at the moment within the show itself. If someone starts doubting, this is supposed to remind them why we’re still in the expectative.

Tighten your belt, we’re going deep inside the show. It’s going to be long, and frankly not everything will make sense but that’s the point: nothing make sense otherwise.

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my tribute to the wonderful and legendary jasper jordan

(Disclaimer: English isn’t my mother tongue, so I already apologize for any mistakes)
Jasper Jordan deserves - or rather now - deserved better. 


And you might agree - you might be sad about the fact that Jasper died or you might be unaffected - hell, I’ve read enough comments about people wanting Jasper to die, because they thought he’s annoying. Annoying. Fuck - that’s just - actually that’s messed up. But this isn’t about the people that have hated or still hate on Jasper, this tribute is dedicated to this wonderful fictional character I learned to love and appreciate. 


We got to know Jasper as this funny, dorky guy in S1 - people loved him for being positive, for being funny, for being naive, but brave at the same time. People loved him in S1, because he was easy to love. Because positive, funny people are easy to love - you seem them smile and they make you smile - and what’s there not to love? 

 
S2 Jasper - yeah, he was inspiring, wasn’t he? He was so fucking brave, he stood up for himself, for his friends in Mount Weather, he took the lead, because Clarke or Bellamy weren’t there - and he was motivating everyone else. S2 Jasper was inspiring people to do something, S2 Jasper was brave and fierce and - and he fell in love with this wonderful girl named Maya - and then everything went downhill from there. Everyone in Mount Weather died, Maya died - and Jasper - Jasper felt so safe in Mount Weather, he felt at peace, safe - ‘till he didn’t. 

 
Because while we got to know Jasper as this funny, dorky guy in S1 - people tend to forget what actually happened to him in S1. This boy is 16 years old and he was kidnapped by grounders and speared - he almost died. His friends died - and there was danger everywhere - but Jasper continued to be strong, continued to be this funny, dorky guy that people easily loved. He almost died again later, when Murphy threatened to kill him - so Jasper was constantly in danger, he was constantly on the edge of death, but people tend to forget that, because in S2 everything seems to be okay with Jasper - right? Because it didn’t affect him at all - and that’s where people are so wrong. 


Jasper suffered from PTSD - and this is canon - end of discussion. And his portray of PTSD was so real and raw and it’s actually sad that people only view it as annoying. Jasper didn’t suddenly “get depressed”, because of a girl “he just met”. I’ve read this so so many times and I can’t believe people can misinterpret a character and their storyline so heavily. This 16 year old boy went through so much, daily, they were basically at war  - he was on the edge of death - daily - at the age of 16 !!! - and if that’s not fucking traumatizing. But - I think what really affected him was that he thought Mount Weather would be safe. That they could be at peace and safe - that they could eat as much chocolate cake as they want and he could flirt with this cute girl from across the room - but as it turns out - he was never safe. The people in Mount Weather betrayed them and in the end his own people betrayed Jasper - or at least that’s how Jasper felt. And as Jasper said, they went to earth to see if it’s survivable - and from what he’s seen - it’s not. 

 
We’re at S3 now - and when I look back, I’ve always loved Jasper, but you know what, if I’m being honest - I really fell in love with Jasper in S3. And that’s pretty ironic, because people hated on Jasper constantly at that point. And why? Because he couldn’t deal with what happened and tried to cope with alcohol? Because he felt betrayed by his closest friends? Because the girl he fell in love with died in his arms and he couldn’t do anything about it? Because this sixteen year old boy suffered from so much trauma and never really experienced safety on earth? Because he suffers from a real and valid mental illness - PTSD? Because all I’ve read - all these arguments are “Jasper should just get over it”, “they all went through something traumatic” - but that’s the thing - Jasper isn’t everyone else. And you should never expect everyone to deal with their trauma the same way you do. You should never expect someone, who went through hell, to just get over it - and you should never expect Jasper to just get over it, because there are people on the show that went through something similar and are not as affected as Jasper was. 

 
And you might say that S3 Jasper is just “a drunken idiot”, annoying, broken, useless - I don’t care what ugly word you want to throw at him - but you know what? Jasper protected Raven, he actually saved her. Jasper - the apparently annoying, useless mess that you wanted dead - saved and rescued Raven. Jasper was a hero. 

 
And it’s funny, because people call Jasper selfish, self-absorbed and annoying - and I could never see that. Jasper is one of the most caring and loving people on the show and if you want to disagree - fine - but we saw Jasper, while he was positive and dorky - and he helped people, cared about them and showed bravery - and we saw Jasper, while he felt broken and while he drank himself to unconciousness - and he still cared about people, saved Raven, tried to comfort Octavia after Lincoln died or Monty after his mum died - but so many people still had the nerve to call him selfish. Because he can’t just suck it up or act like he’s fine? Because he’s not like every other character? 


But while you view him as an annoying character and hate him for acting like this - I just love him more. And just as Devon said - you shouldn’t hate on Jasper, because he’s hard to deal with right now - you should love him for that - you should want to help him, try to show empathy, try to understand him and everything he’s been through. 

 
Because while Jasper might be a fictional character - PTSD and depression are still valid and real mental illnesses. And some people might identify with Jasper - and seeing him - this representation - might help them. There might be many Jaspers out there - and the fact that people have the nerve to call him annoying, because he can’t cope with everything the way the other characters did - well that’s beyond fucked up. 


But you know what? I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry if you can’t love a character like Jasper, if you can’t see his complexity and the beauty of this character and the importance of his storyline. I don’t need to see perfect and well-collected characters on TV - I don’t need to see characters that always do what’s right and I don’t need to see characters that never make mistakes. Because that’s not realistic. It wouldn’t portray the reality. 

 
Jasper is a good person, he has a big heart, he’s selfless, brave, loving, passionate, open-minded and he cherishes freedom more than any other character. Jasper is someone, who wouldn’t force his opinion onto you - and he wouldn’t judge you for yours. Jasper doubts himself and he’s insecure, he blames himself for not being able to just act fine - and yes, Jasper is suicidal and he suffers from PTSD - and Jasper will probably die tonight - but Jasper isn’t his mental illness and Jasper will always be more than his death, Jasper will always be more than annoying and Jasper will always be more than this dorky, funny guy in S1 that everyone apparently misses. 

 
Jasper deserves better. Jasper deserved better. And we deserved to see him getting better, we deserved to see him overcome this - we deserved to see him smiling, him being close, best friends with Monty again - Jasper Jordan is maybe 17 years old now and he deserved so much more than that - and I really hoped we would’ve seen more of his journey, because his storyline, his arc could’ve been truly meaningful - but the writers apparently don’t agree. 


But you know what - Jasper Jordan is legendary and amazing nevertheless - he’ll always be a hero and a great character in my view. 


And at this point I also wanted to thank Devon for portraying Jasper - thank you for getting Jasper, for really trying to understand him and thank you for giving 100% every. single. time. - even when you just had limited screen time or too short scenes. Jasper will always be alive in our hearts, because you portrayed him so beautifully and because you tried to truly understand him in a way unfortunately many viewers couldn’t. 

 
And he might’ve not survived, but that’s not what he wanted - because Jasper wanted to live - and he always will - in our hearts. :)

Jasper Jordan is a legend. See you on the other side, my friend.

anonymous asked:

Jeremy may have well been screaming the words "LANCE LOVES GIRLS" that whole interview. In the past he's hardly, if ever used fem pronouns, now it seems like every second, even when it wasn't necessary, he used she/her pronouns. What the fuck? Then he called them brothers, and sure, we could say that's just Jeremy's interpretation, but Jeremy loves klance, why would he say brothers unless it meant something. We can't call shallies out over the brother thing and then excuse it in our case

because GASP! lance DOES love girls! that’s been very apparent since the beginning of the show. that in NO WAY erases his bisexuality. at the current point in canon, lance has only shown explicit interest in women, so why do some of y’all act SO betrayed when cast/crew use she/her pronouns and the like? it’s not as if every other time when they’ve used neutral language when talking about lance’s flirting/future romance goes away because of it. he LIKES GIRLS!!! it’s already obvious to me that he’s bi/going to be revealed as bi but if they remained neutral literally every single time they discussed lance’s flirting and whatnot then it’d be OBVIOUS, more so than it already is, that he’s not straight and NEWSFLASH! that’s going to be something to do with his character arc and they want to AT LEAST keep some of the surprise. they’ve already teased and hinted at it SO much idk why you guys expect it to happen every time it’s brought up. i mean, in the same fucking interview, jeremy says lance’s milkshakes “bring errybody to the yard, i can say that much” like??? HOLY MACARONI TALK ABOUT A HUGE HINT TO LANCE BEING BI??? note the “i can say that much” part. i don’t know how i can spell this out any clearer for you guys but jeremy has an NDA and he legally CANNOT say more than what he’s said. let’s be real though, the milkshake comment literally just confirms it for me, personally. especially BECAUSE he added the “i can say that much” comment there at the end. this is what you can realistically expect from an interview in regards to confirmation at this point. with every season we’re getting closer to when this will be revealed in the show and we’re getting closer to endgames. so, as i’ve stated before (what should be common knowledge by now in this fandom because it’s happened so much but WHATEVER), sometimes people working in media INTENTIONALLY throw their fans off with what they say to avoid spoiling too much, keeping us on our toes/even purposefully making us DOUBT things so it’s a surprise, as much as i hate that. hell, lauren herself could have fucking told the boy to tone it down about this stuff because he’s been known to run his mouth. i don’t know how you guys forget but seriously, they called pidge a boy and used he/him pronouns for her before s1 aired. they straight out said allura wasn’t lion material before s3 and then she fucking pilots blue. so, please… for the love of FUCK, think logically about this stuff before blowing a casket.

as for the brother comment: first of all, jeremy is a VA… he’s not part of the crew as in he’s not one of the people creating/writing the show, he just voices lance. he can view their relationship however he pleases but what he says has no effect on canon. keith and lance are nothing like brothers in the show. to be frank, they have an abundance of romantic subtext in their scenes which no other pairing has. it’s never been said in the show that they’re like brothers (e.g., “shiro, you’re like a brother to me”) because they’re NOT. they’re FRIENDS. the CREATORS have never likened their relationship to being brotherly (e.g., calling shiro and keith’s relationship a kinship and frequently enforcing big bro shiro, even likening him to being a DAD with keith at one point). jeremy loving klance (romantically) is literally just speculation because of all the stuff he has said about them. he has never outright said anything that would imply he personally ships them romantically, but he does like their relationship and dynamic and that’s perfectly fine. his choice of words was very interesting, anyway: “it’s almost like they’re brothers to a certain extent.” note “almost” and “to a certain extent,” this is NOTHING like what has been said about keith and shiro’s relationship. NOTHING. we CAN call shippers out on the brother thing because the CREATORS HAVE ENFORCED THEIR BROTHERLY RELATIONSHIP A MILLION TIMES, SO MUCH SO THAT KEITH SAID IT IN SHOW. THEY ARE BROTHERS. this is the FIRST TIME anyone has said something like this about keith and lance. normally, whenever they talk about klance, they don’t use any language that insinuates they have a brotherly/familial relationship in canon. because. they. don’t. y’all forgetting that lauren literally said they’re “compatible in every way”? she wouldn’t say that if they were like brothers/grow to view each other as brothers because she has imposed many times that shiro and keith have a brotherly relationship in canon with no hesitation, therefore killing she/th with no remorse even though it’s probably the second most popular ship in the fandom (*vomits*). when talking about the shiro and keith cameo in s4ep2, she said “oh i put that shit in there” and idk about you, but that’s an OBVIOUS sibling parallel with the holt siblings. 

it’s common for cishet people to call gay people brothers/sisters. a straight (as far as i know?) VA viewing their relationship as brotherly when absolutely nothing in the show has implied they have a brotherly relationship/dynamic is a typical hetero thing to say about characters that are seen as gay/bi/etc by the fanbase, full stop. that may have nothing to do with it though and this could very well be intentionally misleading on his part in the first place. 

EDIT: because i agree w this anon and they put it into words very well…

saying “almost like brothers to a certain extent” is literally like saying they’re really fucking close, as close as brothers but they’re not because it’s not a brotherly dynamic. he said ‘almost like… to a certain extent’ which as good as saying they’re not, he surrounded ‘brothers’ with things that sounded uncertain of where to place them, but emphasising that they’re close, which is completely different from shiro being explicitly stated as a brother/dad to keith in my eyes.

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thank you to every wlw skam fan who took mine and @aliciqvikander ‘s survey! we ended up with 313 responses! below is a summary of each question.

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The thing about Finn Collins…

Is that he was specifically written not as a despicable character, but rather as one who was shallow and self-serving. Finn is someone who sees everything that happens around him through the prism of how it relates to him personally. He also finds it almost impossible to see things from another POV.

(In contrast to both Bellamy and Clarke, who quickly learn to take other POVs into consideration, which is what makes them such an effective leadership team. But I digress.)

Finn is also someone who consistently views himself as A Good Guy, and it therefore follows that everything he does, and every opinion he has, is A Good Thing. Or at the very least, Not a Bad Thing.

In the end, these shortcomings lead to his death.

Finn: Part 1

We see all this right from our first meeting with Finn. As the drop ship is about to land, he foolishly unbuckles his seatbelt, even though Clarke warns him it’s dangerous. But this just adds to the thrill for him, because now he not only gets to be “cool” with his gravity-defying tricks, he also gets to impress the pretty girl while he’s at it.

And what happens? A couple of idiots from the “you’re doing something stupid so why don’t I do it, too” school of thought follow his lead. And while Finn is lucky enough not to suffer any consequences because of his stupidity, the other two guys aren’t quite so fortunate. They die.

And Finn is completely nonchalant about that outcome, shrugs it off, appears to feel no guilt whatsoever. After all, he didn’t MEAN to get them killed, right? So that makes it okay. They may have died, but, hey, he was just having a little fun. He didn’t force them to copy his actions, didn’t hurt them on purpose, so definitely… Not a Bad Thing. He dismisses it from his mind.

At this point, I said to myself: what an idiot. Not because he did something stupid. Everyone does stupid things, especially when they’re young. But because he refused to either acknowledge or care that what he’d done had terrible consequences, because those consequences did not fall on him personally.

But, okay, let’s move on from that. Finn is charming, and he’s good-looking, and pretty soon he sweet-talks his way around Clarke, a fairly serious girl who does not appear to have had a lot of experience with romance. And who was, moreover, locked up in solitary for the last year with no chance to socialize.

So he flirts with her, and he courts her with items from a cache of goods that he’s kept hidden from the others because after all, his opportunity to have an edge in romancing the pretty girl is WAY more important than other people’s needs. And anyway, Finn doesn’t wish any of the others ill, he’s a Good Guy, this isn’t hurting them, so his keeping the bunker a secret is of course… Not a Bad Thing.

But then Raven appears and we find that our romantic swain already has a girl.

The fandom has generally made a lot of Finn romancing Clarke when he still had Raven back on the Ark. Perhaps it’s all the years that lie between me and teen romance, but I don’t see his actual pursuit of Clarke as so terrible. Romance at 17 is not necessarily something that’s destined to last forever, so finding you like a new girl is not exactly a high crime.

Nope, what struck me about Finn’s behavior in the Clarke-Finn-Raven fiasco was a couple of other things.

1) It was so fricking immediate. He’d barely left Raven behind (assuming he saw her regularly when he was in the Skybox),and yet here he is, still on the damn drop ship, already pursuing Clarke. Why doesn’t he need some time to get over the pain of having to leave behind his long-time girlfriend before he moves on to The New Girl? To me, that just emphasized how shallow he was. (And also, how cheesy was it to later make Clarke a necklace that almost exactly replicated the one he’d made Raven, and that Raven prized? But, hey, the “one-of-a-kind” jewelry was a proven winner, so why vary the pitch?)

2) He never told Clarke about Raven, not even in the past tense. Yeah, maybe he figured why bother because he was never going to see Raven again. But still, he and Raven went back years and he still didn’t think she was worth mentioning. And can we suppose why that was? Because the fact that he had such a recent emotional commitment might have made Clarke think twice about falling into bed with him. So besides being shallow, he was also self-serving.

Finn: Part 2

So by now, Finn has shown himself to have little depth of character, as well as poor judgment, and Clarke has recognized this. And it affects not not only her romance with Finn, which is now off the table, but every aspect of their relationship. So even though she still has unresolved feelings for him, she doesn’t trust him, and she doesn’t trust his judgment.

And Finn can’t figure it out! He desperately wants to be everything Clarke needs. He doesn’t understand why Clarke won’t fall back into his arms after he and Raven break up. He can’t figure out why she doesn’t take his advice on how to deal with the grounders. It makes no sense to him at all because not only is he The Good Guy, but he is also sure he’s the only one who knows how to bring about peace with the grounders. And as The Good Guy, his political views must be The Good Ones. The Right Ones.

But Clarke doesn’t see it that way at all. She actually wants to decide for herself, rather than accepting his views as gospel.

And to add insult to injury, instead of working with Finn, Clarke has partnered up with Bellamy Blake and together they’re running the camp. She’s told Finn she trusts Bellamy, trusts his judgment. And she’s spending a lot of time with Bellamy. Finn finds this especially difficult to swallow because he’d decided right from the beginning that Bellamy was The Bad Guy, someone Clarke needed to be wary of, and therefore his opinions must also be Bad and Wrong. So Finn is now jealous of Bellamy on every level.

In a bid to prove how “right” he is, and not coincidentally how his ideas are the ones everyone should follow, Finn sets up a meet for Clarke with the grounder leader Anya…without ever consulting Clarke. He simply expects her to go along. And she does, agreeing to meet Anya, but because she still doesn’t trust Finn’s judgment, she asks Bellamy to come along as backup, and to bring guns. The meet turns into a fiasco, arrows are loosed, shots are fired, and Clarke is nearly killed.

And in the aftermath, all Finn wants to talk about, the thing in the forefront of his mind, is not his distress that Clarke nearly lost her life, but his complaints that Clarke didn’t trust him!

So as usual, everything revolves around Finn and Finn’s feelings.

Finn: Part 3

When Season 2 begins, we might have expected that Finn, who finally teamed with Bellamy and acquitted himself well in the fight against the grounders, had finally matured enough to become a useful member of the group. Instead, it’s immediately clear that Finn is no longer just enamored of Clarke, he has now become obsessed with her. So obsessed that he can hardly think about anything else.

Which brings us to the watershed moment in Finn’s life, the massacre at the grounder village, an event that has already been dissected to the nth degree by the fandom. So I will just content myself with pointing out that unlike the S1 blowing of the bridge, or the ring of fire, or even the S3 shooting of the Trikru army, Finn’s actions at the village had no military objectives whatsoever. His search for Clarke was a personal quest, and his conclusion that the villagers knew anything at all about her whereabouts was complete speculation based on the presence of Jake Griffin’s watch.

Finn’s actions are so irrational, in fact, that John Murphy, a character who, up until then, had been presented to the audience as hotheaded and vengeful, has now become the voice of reason as he tries to get Finn to stand down. But why should Finn, who never listens to anyone else, listen to Murphy now? As always, he heeds no one but himself.

But perhaps even more telling are Finn’s actions in the aftermath. Two things stand out.

1) His statement when he finally sees Clarke. “I found you,” he says, as though Clarke was still “missing,” not officially “found,” until the moment Finn laid eyes on her. As though the most important consideration was not her safe return but his sighting of her. Making it very clear that Finn’s search for Clarke was at least as much about his obsessive need to be the one who keeps her safe as it was about her actual safety.

2) “I did it because I love you. Because I’m in love with you,” he later tells Clarke, referring to the massacre. And what the hell is she supposed to say to that? Has any young person ever received a less welcome profession of love? I literally gasped when I heard him say it. To shoot up a village of non-combatants with no more provocation than the sighting of a watch was bad enough. But to then lay this deed at the feet of his beloved as though it were a gift was truly appalling. What a horrible burden for her to bear.

But again, Finn is so self-absorbed that he doesn’t seem to understand that the very last thing this girl he claims to love would want to hear is how many people he killed in his quest to find her. Finn, of course, doesn’t intend to be callous, but only to illustrate how much he loves her. Because…he’s A Good Guy, never had “bad intentions,” so he certainly can’t be blamed if things went a little…awry. Most definitely Not a Bad Thing.

In the end, the real tragedy of Finn Collins is that his finest moment comes just as he has only a short time to live. Because finally, finally, he has come to understand that regardless of the lack of his intentions, his actions still have consequences.

In a true act of courage, to ensure that neither Clarke, nor Raven, nor any of the others are further harmed, he turns himself in to the Trikru to pay for his crimes.

And poor, poor Clarke. Overwhelmed with guilt - because didn’t he do it all because he loved her so, so much ? - she risks her own life in order to give him a merciful death. Luckily for her, the Commander finds her brave act admirable.

So Finn is dead. By her hand. And Clarke decides that maybe loving someone is far too dangerous and painful for both the lover and the beloved. It will take her a long time to realize that she’s wrong.

anonymous asked:

Am I the only one who thinks P Chris is actually not how most portray him on fanfics? I feel like he's actually really nice, that what happened with Iben was just a bump. I mean he even told Eva he was raised well. I feel like both parents were always there for him, that's why he's so charismatic and confident. I don't think he ever promised any of his hookups anything more. The only thing I don't understand is why was he with Iben, when he was totally fine hooking up b4/after the breakup.

It depends a LOT of which fics. I already started to read some fics on wattpad where Chris is basically a borderline creepy guy, constantly harassing the girl in order to “get what he wants”, I usually just end up dropping because 1-i’m not a fan of this trope  2- like you said I don’t think it’s a proper characterization of Chris. In season 1 when he was flirting with Eva he wasn’t pressing her and being insistent, it was always reciprocate, since Eva was flirting back. Besides that, the moment Eva told him to stop texting her (after the kiss) he stopped. So yeah, it bugs me when i read Chris being the creepy dude.

 However, if you give a look on the fics I’m always reblogging here and most chriseva on ao3 actually, I think the writers usually portray Chris’ personality in, at least in my opinion, a very precise way. Of course, this is a little subjective and open to interpretation, because we didn’t saw much about Chris, but using the information we have, here’s what I think about him:

 1- At least in season 1 he appears to be really immature (almost childish), he doesn’t seems to think or care about the consequences of his acts. When Eva texted him after the kiss, worried about someone finding out, he was there making jokes about her panties and not understanding at all why she was so stressed. And this shows that he is kind of self-absorbed. You asked about Iben, well I think ( again just speculation) he might had have some crush on her for a while but ,you know,that kind of crush you think is gonna be something big but  ends up fading away really quickly. And due to  his immaturity and lack of sensibility to deal with feelings, he end up dragging the relationship instead of breaking up as he should have done ( because he clearly didn’t care enough  to commit so the best was to break up). Oh, and just to be clear I’m not trying to justificate his actions, He acted wrong, he was an asshole to Iben. No ‘’family issues’’ or anything can justifies what he did.

2- He seems to be a little troublemaker. On that fight with Jonas , William’s bored face is like “oh here we go again”, like if that was something recurring.  Again, he doesn’t seems to put much thought on his actions/words (Chaotic as fuck) and this probably leads him to constantly be in some kind of confusion

3- I do agree with you, I don’t think he ever promises something more to his hook ups. Season 2 we basically saw him being a 24 hours Penetrator Chris, he wasn’t really hiding his fuckboy facade. Even with Eva on s1, he was quite direct on his flirts, so I don’t think he’s the kind of guy that pretends to want something serious just to have sex. First Instagram chat with Eva and he was already saying he was turned on, so here is the answer.

4- He seems to have a good nature, to act nice with people in general. He might have some touch of arrogance, but I think he usually treat people well. For example, the twin moment with the other Chris, you know. That was so friendly. And on his interactions with Eva in general, he seems to be kind. He did show concern for her on the Halloween party and I think on that moment he was being genuine (the way he looks at her while she is not looking? That’s not pretending). Or in the first party, he was actually trying to make a normal conversation with her, asking about her friends and russ…Besides, He was always helping her with all the William’s information. Another case, all the playfulness with Eskild and Linn, singing Justin Bieber with Eva and carrying a drunk Eskild. Again, he was being extremely friendly with people he’s not that intimate. Also, the biggest proof, Chris Berg likes him!! (and Isak told us that he’s a nice guy).  One thing people might disagree, because i know many  fans don’t like that scene, but when he’s leaving William’s place with the two random girls did you notice he’s all playfull with them as well?  I, particularly, don’t see any problem with that scene, bc it’s consensual and the girls seemed to be enjoying ( girls are free to want threesomes if they want). But anyway, I don’t agree with fics that portray Chris like a guy who treats woman ( people in general) in a bad way. However, i do think he oversteps the line with jokes sometimes and that is the next point.

 5- He oversteps the line with jokes. No, but seriously, ask his best friend’s crush if she wants to join him? Do you notice William’s capricornian face “I’m super calm but i’ll kill you tomorrow bitch”? Chris is the “lose the friend do not lose the joke” kind of guy. Humor is definitely an important part of his persona. He probably use humor as a defense mechanism as well, either to deal with tense situations or to hide his feelings / his true self.

6- Now about the family, we will never know the answer for sure, but I am with you on this. I always got the impression that Chris has a normal family. He  pass the impression of being a kind of spoiled son, something on him makes me think he was/is really well treated ( maybe the confidence). And his immaturity on s1/lack of responsibility just appears to me like someone who never had to worry much about things in life. William actually says once to Vilde that the party was cancelled because Chris’ parents come home. He probably was lying about the party, but i got the impression that the parents are real and presents on his life. Of course, I’m not saying he has a perfect family, with no issues. Maybe the parents used to work a lot, maybe he spend too much time with nannys or not……but i just don’t think his familiar situation is as bad as William’s. When the Nico incident happened and William told Noora he was staying at Chris, i felt like Chris has stability in his life. He has a stable family, a stable place. So, whenever things get hard/complicated for William, he will look for shelter in Chris’ home. Also the “i was raised well” seems to fit this theory.

7-  He’s loyal to his friends, William himself said that he was always there for him. And even though it’s kind of hard for me to buy the storyline “ the Yakusa guys were completely douchebags who wanted to beat everyone’s ass for no specific reason”., if we believe Isak, Chris wanted to stop them, so he really cares about his friends.

Finally, i do think he grow up ( at least a little) during the seasons, especially because of his “relationship” with Eva on s3 and s4, which probably helped his emotional development (  recognize his own and other people’s feelings, deal with them,etc). Futhermore, i don’t see him as a serial cheater or someone who is incapable to commit just because of what happened on s1. I just think that he was really immature when he was dating Iben and that he (before Eva);  never really experienced the feelings of romantic love. And i think his clip was about that, he was finally having real feelings for a girl, but due to his messy past, the girl in question wasn’t able to believe him. Also the fact that he never experienced romantic love until he’s 19/20 is quite normal. Not everyone has serious relationships when they’re teens. And if you never fell in love until you’re 20 or 30 or 40.. etc, it doesn’t means that when you fall, you’re not going to be a good partner or that you’re not going to be able to commit. People experience things on different times. The maxim “once a fuckboy always a fuckboy” is really dumb and it’s sucks that Julie kind of reinforced that, because all characters are teenagers, and teenagers are in process of forming their identity , so you can’t say that their actions will define who they are for the rest of their lifes.

Anyway, i can’t believe i ranted so much about a character that has like five lines 😂   😂   😂 , but I love to make assumptions about fictional characters’ personalities and you triggered that with your question,anon. Oh, and i’m ignoring the last clip, cause we all know that shit doesn’t make sense…

SPECULATIONS end of Supergirl season 2

(mostly related to Karamel & Mon-El)

Spoilers ahead! You have been warned.

I have been giving a lot of thought to the fact that LeMon (L*na + Mon-El possible marriage arranged by Rhea to happen in 2x21) would be the second time in season 2 of Supergirl that someone wants to force half of our Karamel OTP to marry someone else (first was Mr Mxyzptlk).

There are several things that I think that happened in 2x13 that may be clues to what Mon-El learned from that and how he (+L*na) may decide to handle the situation to stop Rhea. Usually the lessons set up earlier in the season play a big role in the last episodes because it is the end of that particular story arch. All of this may happen in 2x21, 2x22 or both.

1. Mon-El was jealous not only because he thought that she would marry him, but because he thought that Kara wanted Mxyz in her team (wrong).

Speculation: of course that Kara will be jealous. I think that she will even think that Mon-El preferred L*na (wrong).

2. Kara lied to Mon-El making him believe that she was going to marry Mxyz and he believed her. And she did it to protect him so she could do what she had planned to do. He wanted to help and tried to solve the problem on his own but it was Kara the one who handled it.

Speculation: Kara will want to help and solve the problem but it will be Mon-El the one handling it. He will make Kara believe that he is going to marry L*na to protect her and take forward his plan. And Kara will believe him. My guess? This is the heartbreaking goodbye Karamel scene that we have been told by the paparazzis that will happen.

3. Kara defeated Mxyz because she out-tricked the most cunning intergalactic trickster making him do something (typing the password) that would make him loose his power.

Speculation: Mon-El will defeat Rhea out-tricking her, making her do something that will make her loose her power. My guess? Him at the wedding and in royal clothing is connected to the fact that Lar Gand is dead and Mon-El was the Crown Prince. I think at some point during he ceremony Mon-El will be recognised as King and ruler and a significant number of Daxamite soldiers will become loyal to him. And then Mon-El will command them against Rhea and her followers. Btw, the paparazzis said that LeMon will not actually marry. And I think that after that he will abdicate and set them free. Some of them may decide to stay as his allies or may leave as possible future villains.

4. Mon-El wanted to kill the villain but Kara said again and again that heroes do not do that. Mxyz was banished to a place that he couldn’t return from.

Speculation: there will be another moment when Mon-El will have the opportunity to kill his mother but he will not do it. Rhea will be banished to a place she cannot return from. My guess? The Phantom Zone. Now that we know that Mon-El still cares about his mother, this would fit the requirement for his ultimate sacrifice. And I would love Rhea to return as a villain as I found her much more interesting and menacing than Lillian.

5. Once Mxyz was defeated, Kara explained everything to Mon-El, including the fact that she wanted to be with him. And then a big step in the Karamel relationship happened.

Speculation: Once Rhea is defeated, Mon-El will explain everything to Kara. Another big Karamel step will happen. My guess? ILY from Kara to Mon-El.

I have also been thinking in some of the Supergirl season 2 themes that were set up in episodes 2x01 and 2x02 and how they are connected to Mon-El and Karamel and the end of the season:

6. Love bonds these characters together and this makes them family. This has been mentioned several times during, most clearly by J'onn, that has included Mon-El in their family in 2x17 and 2x20. In 2x02 Winn says that family is not about score-keeping or who did more, it is about showing up. I know that our alien puppy will show up at the end of the season.

7. Cat mentions in 2x01 that Supergirl is a hero because she has an inner need to help people, to protect the planet. I think that this is something that will be expressed more clearly by Mon-El at the end of season 2 but will be developed further in season 3.

8. Kara comments in 2x01 that she loves that Lois worries about Clark and that she doesn’t know how he can be an amazing reporter, a great boyfriend and Superman. Clark says that being Kara is as important as being Supergirl. Kara, darling, you have already got this! Will she mention that?

9. Cat said in 2x01 that Kara was scared of diving into new waters, that it would be hard and that she would become a new version of herself when she reaches the other side. Again, she dived in. With Mon-El. Kara, reminder that you just need to say to him how much you love him.

10. In 2x02 Kara loved very much teaming up with Superman, someone similar to her, someone who understands what is like to be her, that she even thought about moving to Metropolis. Luckily for her, there is already a handsome alien superheroing with her. He just needs a supersuit with spanx and a cape. Please and thank you. Sadly, I don’t think that he will get the suit in season 2.

11. Kara also mentions in 2x02 that she will be there for the (hot shirtless) guy in a coma so he will never know what is like to feel alone. Well done, Kara. I would like to hear you say that you don’t feel alone now because you have him.

Other speculations that I have for the final episodes:

12. At some point Mon-El will take a completely selfless decision that will put his life in danger. We will actually think that he is dying. They are following all the steps of the classical hero journey so the metaphorical death of the hero has to happen for him becoming Valor. The fact that his heart is at the right side of his chest may be a relevant factor. The fact that his cells can recover absorbing energy from electricity may be another relevant factor. If he has to be sent to the Phantom Zone while they find a cure for lead poisoning, this will be a Han Solo in carbonite situation. The rest of the team will come up with a plan to save him during the summer hiatus and he will return to Earth early in season 3. I’m thinking something similar to Oliver in S3 midseason finale of Arrow, when (spoilers) everyone mourned him but we knew from the first episode after the return of the hiatus that he had survived his apparent death.

13. There is a Flight Ring in the Fortress of Solitude. And in comics, Mon-El gets one of this from Superman. The ring would give him flight powers. And also in comics this is THE cure for lead poisoning. Just saying.

14. There are leaked pics of Rhea, Mon-El in DEO uniform & Kara in a roof. There are also pics of Mon-El fighting in DEO clothing in the streets. This will probably happen after the LeMon wedding is stopped.

15. We know for interviews that Chris is returning and that his hero arch will continue in season 3.

16. We know thanks to the paparazzis that Supergirl and Superman will fight in 2x22 and most likely Clark will be brainwashed thinking that she is General Zod.

17. Clark speaks with J'Onn in 2x01, asking what would he if the President gives him orders that he doesn’t agree with. I believe that this will happen again in 2x21, particularly because POTUS is an alien from a race (Durlan) that may be working with Daxamites. I wonder if Durlans will be the big bads for season 3.

18. Stills show that Lillian will work with Supergirl in 2x21. Similar to Max Lord in the S1 finale. What will be Cat’s role? Could she die? Will Jeremiah return? Will he die as a hero protecting her daughters? Will Cadmus still be an adversary in season 3?

19. Sanvers. Fighting together. Stronger together. In love.

20. Winn will fight as DEO agent. Will Lyra survive? Will she team up with Guardian?
We know nothing about James in the finale. Could James die?

21. Will M'Gann return permanently? (she will be in 2x22). I hope so.

22. L*na. What will happen with her after Lemon? Will she feel betrayed because Kara didn’t tell her about her identity about Supergirl? She will have her heart broken because of Jack and Rhea. Are they setting up a path to darkness for her? Will Checkmate be a part of her path in season 3?

Tagging the Karamel Fam!

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anonymous asked:

i feel like you might have answered this before but just wondering why you shipped rory & jess so much. jess wasn't that great to her while they were dating compared to dean and logan. i liked how much jess had grown when we see him again before she enlists at yale, but i just never understood why they were endgame compared to anyone else

Well, this post has the potential to be extremely long so I am going to move past the debate of how “well” Rory was actually treated by Logan and we will have to agree to disagree there!

I think that for me it isn’t as much how Rory was treated while they were together, but the connection that they had from the very beginning, and the balance Jess provides to both of her worlds. Dean treated her wonderfully, yes, but (after S1 when they character assassinated him and made him a townie with no intelligence) he wasn’t interested in the things Rory was interested in, he didn’t fuel her fire and passion for life, art, literature, adventure, etc. Jess did all those things. These two people who at first glance seemed so different, were actually so alike in many ways. Jess challenged her, dared her to take chances. And on her end, Rory forced Jess to pick a lane sometimes, focus, grow, allow himself to love and care about the people around him. I think a really important thing for a long term relationship is the ability to assist in growth for your partner, and Jess did that better than anyone else Rory dated on the show. He was also able to connect to her world in Stars Hollow, while also being intelligent and driven enough to survive in world of Hartford. Sure, he didn’t much like either of those worlds, but he was able to adjust and exist in both of them, and for Rory, he was willing to do so. 

Also, I think that although Jess obviously made some huge errors in how he treated Rory, people give him an unnecessary bad wrap overall when he did a lot of things that showed he cared. First off, he came back to Stars Hollow just to be near her. Second, as much shit as he gave Dean (and Rory for being with Dean) at the end of the day, he never tried to kiss her, he never forced her to make a decision or to choose (remember that one scene where he helps her with the sprinklers but then turns them back on and disappears so that Dean can save the day?). He also showed up for dinner with her grandparents (and honestly that night being a disaster was totally Rory’s fault), was more than willing to take her to the prom and wear a tux/rent a limo, etc. His emotional maturity level was so low in S2 and S3, but regardless, he still cared about Rory more than anyone, and did make multiple attempts to show her that throughout the series. I think Jess treated Rory poorly a lot of the time, but Rory treated Jess poorly a lot of the time too, which really was just a product of neither of them being totally ready for the type of relationship they were faced with by being together: one of soulmate proportions. 

I think that Jess realized the epic nature of what their relationship was and/or could be, and that scared him, because he knew he wasn’t ready for that. So he fled. He had to grow. And he did. He grew into the absolute perfect person for Rory in S6, and I still to this day believe that if ASP had kept writing the show during it’s original run, the two of them would have ended up together. But you already said you know the arguments towards S6 Jess, so I won’t bore you with those again :) 

HVFF Portland - a recap

Last weekend, I attended HVFF in Portland for the first time (HVFF and Portland) and had a blast. I know a lot of people on Twitter have seen pictures and videos but I wanted to share a little of my account. 

Half of the fun is sharing the experience with other friends and fans. I met up with friends, people I follow on Twitter, and met new people creating new friendships. Overall, eight of us arrived a day early and hung out after getting our tickets. This really helped getting to know each other in person before the con started. (I had only met Academy of shipping in person before) Then we could break up into different groups at the con and rejoice over mini-Felicity and Alejandra’s amazing ability to connect with the actors as we came back together.

Stephen Amell’s panel was first on Saturday. We were much closer than I expected which was so much fun. He was engaging and funny and most of the questions felt new. 
Highlights:
- He is looking forward to scenes with Jack (William) and they have cool scenes in 6x01
- most embarrassing moment is dropping Katie Cassidy in their make out scene in S1. A kid asked the question, so his avoidance and explanations for why he was carrying her (she was tired) was hilarious.
- Stephen is tired of the beard (for Code 8). Also, he is much better than night shoots then his cousin, Robbie.
- Jesi’s daughter dressed as Felicity (mini-Felicity) was going to ask a question but then Jesi had to ask instead (when will Oliver marry Felicity - answer: maybe in Season 6. Maybe not) However, she charmed Stephen (giving her name as Felicity) which led to two days of glorious moments and pictures with Stephen and the entire cast for that family.
- asked if he would break his promise of no dancing for a slow dance at Olicity wedding, he responded yes since he didn’t count slow dancing as dancing (and he would be better than Grant)
- invited to the Navy Ball and accepted if his schedule allows 
- another Navy officer (after joking that he also was going to ask him to the Navy Ball) gave him a challenge coin from his crew since Arrow is one of the shows they watch away from home. Stephen got off the stage and gave him a hug.
- favorite villain: most iconic, Deathstroke. Favorite, Prometheus.

At this point, we started to break up and visit different actors booths for autographs or selfies. I had written out all the music themes for each person there to sign which meant I did not do any photo-ops. Cons are expensive!

I started with Katrina Law mostly so I could follow Janis and her daughter and see Ava meet Nyssa. If any of you follow Janis, you will know that Nyssa is Ava’s favorite character and it was fun to see Katrina pick her up and swing her back and forth. I showed her my music sheet and Katrina was very excited to learn that Nyssa had her own theme and thought that was really cool.

My next stop was David Ramsey’s table. David Ramsey is a wonderful human being and made sure to take time with each fan. He was the last one to stay both evenings because there were so many people and because it took so much longer (but everyone would agree it was worth it!) He asked me my name, at which point he mentioned it was one of his favorite names and then proceeded to name four other favorite names, one being my sister’s name which we both found very cool. Then I showed him the music and his eyes grew big as he asked where I got the music. I told him I transcribed it which greatly impressed him. Then he asked me to sing or hum Diggle’s theme for him! I did my best but told him that it sounded much cooler with electric bass and then babbled about how it was in the last episode with Deathstroke, Diggle and Wild Dog’s themes as they fought (I told Rick the same thing the next day) which was really cool. David them told me that I was amazing for listening to all those details and signed my paper. He asked if I was a musician and told him that I was a cellist. Since I was dressed as Felicity the first day, he guessed that at the end and gave me a high five. I returned to Sarah and Bre red-faced, a huge grin on my face, and slightly shaking!

The three of us went over to Juliana’s table next. There were a lot less people at her table which meant we could spend more time. First of all, she is gorgeous and has the most lovely smile. I certainly hope we can see more of it on Arrow. We all shared how much we loved her as the Black Canary and thought she did a fantastic job. This meant the world to her and she told us she hoped to do us proud in Season 6. When I showed her the music, I shared how her theme stemmed from the previous Canary themes but is her own. She found that really cool and was a little blown away, I think. I’m not sure she even knew there were soundtracks for Arrow. She asked if she could take a picture of it so she could play it home. She signed Dinah Drake first starting in a D on the staff paper which was a cool little moment.

My last signature was with Stephen Amell. I had this whole spiel I was going to say on thanking him for his work this year but I was a little overwhelmed being so close to him (he is quite handsome) that most of it left my brain. He was very nice and asked where I wanted him to sign. I pointed out his three themes and then he signed next to each one. It took a little while for me to recover.
Since I didn’t get a photo-op, a group of us hung out nearby waiting for those who were getting photos (a bit of a revolving door between 8 of us!) Rick Gonzales was walking by which Bre and I pointed out to Alejandra, who called out “Rick!” She had already had met him so he turned around, smiled, and then came back and gave her a hug, remembering their conversation beforehand. Before he left, he gave myself and Bre hugs even though we had never met him! We also got to witness her joy/freaking out when Rick included her picture on Instragam and responded to her on Twitter and then Stephen Amell’s response to her Mini-Felicity picture “I like hugs”. Needless to say, both days we all were on our phones enjoying the amazing responses of the fandom and cast.

The next day, we attended the Arrow cast panel and deduced that Juliana and Rick were added since two chairs appeared as we sat there (before seeing the announcement via Twitter)
It was nice to see the interactions but everyone was a little tired so the questions and answers were not as engaging as Stephen’s.
Highlights:
- favorite and funniest moment in set. Willa mentioned it was hard to choose with John Barrowman on set. Rick and Julianna took the more serious route with Rene and Zoe moments from 5x13 and Dinah’s first Canary cry. David and Willa joked that it was hard to follow that with fart jokes and Barrowman. 
- most surprising moment to read in the scripts. Katrina was shocked that Oliver and Nyssa were getting married (“we all were” said the moderator) and Willa mentioned the many times she died.
- they all did joke about the possibility of dying on the island and whether they were coming back. “We are all dead.” “It’s a dream” Rick joked about needing to find another job. David said that Stephen had read 6x01 and just kept teasing him the night before “Dude, …., you didn’t buy a house, did you?”
- they were asked about relationships on the show they would like to see. Katrina said “Nyssa and Felicity” (after mentioning wanting a flashback of Sara and Nyssa earlier), Rick mentioned Rene showing interest in Thea, Willa mentioned that relationships don’t last well in the show (although she did mention later that she would love for Thea and Roy again) which David disagreed about.
- Willa was asked if Malcolm was a good father. She hemmed and hawed since Malcolm did sacrifice himself for Thea. She did acknowledge that her love for John clouded that statement and gave a yes
- what their doppelgängers would be like on Earth 2. Rene would be a cook or baker and very friendly. Dinah would be docile and wear pink dresses. Diggle would have a green power ring which would be ironic working with Aliens since Diggle is freaked out by aliens.

I visited Willa’s table first and got her signature in Green and then a selfie. She thought it was really sweet that her theme was called “Purest Heart.” I mentioned that I almost put down the Theroy theme as well because I love it and them. She said she missed them too. Very cool.

Next was Rick who was also blown away that I had written down all the themes and that Wild Dog has his own. He asked if he could take a picture of it as well and really appreciated it. I again babbled that it appeared in 5x02 and the fight scene in 5x23 and he was kind of impressed that I noticed those details. I told him that I loved the piano theme for Rene and Zoe and am hoping it will be on the soundtrack. He mentioned that they will address Zoe and Rene in Season 6 and gave us (Sarah was with me) hugs. He also has a beautiful smile which we need to see more on the show!

We then went to Brandon Routh’s booth. Brandon looks exactly like he does on screen: tall, handsome, and smiling. Turns out that Brandon plays trumpet and piano and so actually read the music in front of him. He said the range was a little low for trumpet but I had written the French Horn range (the Atom theme is both in horns and trumpets) so we proceeded to talk about trumpet ranges. He also asked to take a picture of it. I mentioned that I enjoyed Legends and was excited to see where it goes next. He smiled and said that it was going to be pretty crazy. 

We proceeded over to Milo Ventimiglia’s booth because I am a big fan of “Gilmore Girls” and “This is us.” He is like David in that he wanted to know each person’s name and have a conversation. Plus, they both make serious and funny faces in selfies. I thanked him for the role of Jack: a good husband and father, which is rare to see on TV these days. To have both Jack and Randall on the same show as good men is a blessing and a rarity and he said he would pass that on to Sterling! We both agreed that Jack was the true Superhero because he was a real man in a world without superpowers. 

We then attended his panel and we sat two rows away from him, thanks to Sarah. He was engaging and thoughtful in his responses on the stage as he is in person. He always asked for each person’s name. He was asked about Gilmore Girls: “no, the baby is not Jess’s baby” and that he loved working with Scott Patterson - a very special pairing and relationship. He also said the newest segment was like an encore in a concert. He was asked about “This is Us” and what a good man Jack is yet still flawed and his deep love for Rebecca. He spoke of the importance of knowing everyone on the crew which he learned thanks to his first line on “Prince of Bel Air” with Will Smith who knew everyone and took a few moments to speak to him. The panel went from his favorite books to what he likes to do on his down time to how he approaches acting. All responses were beautiful, engaging and fun.

We returned to the booth areas to find out about the mini-Felicity pictures/hug video (she was dancing with Rick at that point) As the day closed, we all traveled over to Juliana’s booth (thanks to Alejandra) and we talked about the new costume which had been revealed over the Internet and how it looks awesome. We did mention something about the weather (the bare arms for a few inches) and she appeared a little surprised and admitted that didn’t occur to her! She said if she is shivering, we will know why! She thanked us and gave us all hugs.

We then went once more to Rick’s who gave Alejandra and Heidi hugs and then as he left, saw me (remembering me from earlier) and shook my hand thanking me. Very sweet man.

We finished the day by watching Wonder Woman in an incredible theater that was more like a lounge or living room (couches, bookshelves, food). A wonderful end for an amazing weekend. 

(My computer’s wifi does not work well since I moved a month ago. I did have pictures interspersed in this but Tumblr is acting weird. I did post most of them earlier however. I apologize for any weird formats from my iPad!)

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anonymous asked:

I had what many may consider a stupid thought, but I'm going to throw it out there anyway. Am I the only one kind of regretting the fact that we'll never have arrogant-but-softhearted Bellamy and headstrong-but-wounded Clarke from the dropship days in sarcastic, banter-filled love with heavy innuendo and physical attraction? They're in flat-out I'll-die-for-you-you're-my-life-partner kind of love now, which is beautiful...But I still think the show missed an opportunity to build up there 1/2

I mean, the romantic relationship potential could have gotten a few more scenes in Season 1. Just a little more flirting or something would’ve been nice. We probably won’t see them spar or argue ever again like they used to. Bellamy can forgive her in the span of a day for holding a gun on him. They’re in so deep, and it’s warm and real and so adult and thorough now, which is awesome. I’m all about it. Bring on the Bellarke! Yet I can’t help but feel a little sad/cheated that we missed the 2/2

3/3 lighter, teasing, flirtatious, sexier build-up? And I know there was the issue of Finn in S1 and the “story is long.” I’m well-informed that it’s a long and winding road with many arcs and at least 5 seasons. I get the concept of a slow burn. But it could have been cool to see a near-romantic miss in S1 - the 108 tree scene doesn’t count - they’d just killed someone. I’m not expecting a deep analysis or anything. Just fan-girling I suppose. But I can’t be the only one thinking this.

Well, I mean, that’s the thing about telling stories. You’ve got to make the choices. The things you choose to focus on are what gives you the story you are eventually going to tell, and if you focus on the wrong things, you weaken your story. You have to pick. If they did the light flirtation that you wanted in season 1, that would have made the story a different thing. It would have made their relationship a different thing. Having that possibility there from the beginning would have brought the physicality to bear much sooner. They would have been more sure about where they stood with each other. They would have pushed their relationship. It would have actually been MORE about romance and flirtation and knowing the possibility was there.

And the thing is, they didn’t want it to be. And they wanted their characters to separate and go on their personal journeys, whether that was about love and forgiveness or morality and authority. To have the beginning of a relationship with Bellamy and Clarke, even just flirting, would have made what happened in season 3 worse. Because it would have been something that was already on the edge of canon. It would have made the whole season more about dating, and less about the deeper connection that lay under their attraction. Putting aside the attraction completely, meant the focus was on the soul connection.

And when something is about physical attraction, there’s always the question… is it just lust? is it just about needing someone? is it just sex? is it just comfort? is there a power game? is it just what they’re supposed to be doing? is it a means to an end? is it real?  Which, to be honest, were questions with every relationship Bellamy and Clarke had since the beginning of the show. Think back. Every single one. From Satisfied Girl to Finn to Roma to Niylah to Raven to Lxa to Bree. All their sexual relationships have questions over them. Whether they were real love (which three of them were) or not.

Season 1 had them flirting with the possibility of making it a light and flirty thing, like you said. We saw Bellamy with the girls, one of whom looked very much like Clarke (not a coincidence, particularly since she came back twice, both times when he could have taken it physical with Clarke and he turned away from her.) It was an option. We saw Bellamy NOT pursue it, consciously, with Clarke. It says something. It says she was already more important than that to him. We saw Clarke reach out to Finn for comfort, and offer him the same. But it was a mess of conflicting intentions and needs and complicated connections. It lead to nothing good, except bringing them Raven. Would she have reached out to Bellamy if disaster hadn’t struck? Quite likely. And it would have been an entirely different story than the one they told.

I do think they played with a platonic love relationship in season 2, a kind of courtly knight/princess thing, what with the Gustus parallel and Bellamy being sent into the mountain on her order. But it turns out the princess was not feeling so platonic (my interpretation) and while from Bellamy’s side, it might have looked like that knightly ideal, and he even accepted that, I don’t think that was the way Clarke saw it, particularly with the comparison between Bellamy and Finn, and later, about not being ready to start something with anyone. The only two options, honestly, being Lxa or Bellamy. 

Season 3 had the love between Clarke and Bellamy grow while they were separated. The intensity of their feelings for each other deepened to the point that they independently sacrificed their lives for the other’s. The pain and hurt caused by Clarke’s abandonment and Bellamy’s rejection did not make their feelings go away though. The love between Bellamy and Clarke was tested and confirmed, before it ever became physical. It is real. It is true. It’s respectful. It’s mutual. It is serious. It is important. That period of testing was an important story to tell, I think. Many romantic relationships do NOT make it through that kind of test, or even smaller tests. Romance can be pretty flighty, to be honest. Not all romance can stand having a rival for affections, or being on opposite sides of a political divide, or distance, or hurting each other (which is part of the package when you become vulnerable to another person.)  Season 3 showed that the relationship between Clarke and Bellamy could not only withstand these challenges, but actually grow deeper despite/because of them.

So what was the purpose of season 4, which has offered the audience so much hope and frustration? Well. Season 4 to me has been about building tension, in both the Bellarke romance and the plight of humanity. They start full of possibility, but bit by bit, each option is knocked out until they are being forced into their only option. It has become downright claustrophobic, leading to the second culling and the locking of the doors of the bunker. But we still have Bellarke running around, working on their last chance. For survival. For admission of feelings. Because those feelings have also been pushed to the breaking point, and they too have been denied, again and again, pushed aside, given obstacles, from Clarke’s admission of love for L to Bellamy turning aside from Clarke’s cheek on his hand, to his steering away from love, to her staying on science island, from his refusing to agree to her bunker plan, to her holding a gun on him,  to Bree, to Niylah. These are the things they saw of the other. They each showed the other that they were not interested. And YET, the AUDIENCE saw Bellamy telling Jaha she centered him, saw her selling 50 of her people for his life, saw the way they looked at each other when the other couldn’t see, saw how much Bree looked like Clarke, saw how Clarke couldn’t leave Bellamy outside of the bunker. It wasn’t until Bellamy realized that Clarke just sacrificed humanity for his sake that I think one of them saw how much the other loved them. 

Season 4 was about upping the intensity of their feelings for each other, while putting obstacles in the way until it seems impossible and unreachable and now time is up and it still hasn’t happened. 

TENSION

They’re not giving us a sweet love story. They’re giving us a love story so vital and important and desperate that it feels inevitable– and impossible. 

They’re giving us a passionate love story that is about true souls meeting and being held apart. They’re keeping us on the edge of love admission and consummation. We think, they couldn’t possibly hold it off any longer, and they do. 

They’ve absolutely been working us from the very beginning. The intention for romantic bellarke was hinted at from the pilot. But they held it off from becoming admitted outright, took OUT a scene that would have been canon intention from Day Trip. ON PURPOSE. Because it would have taken them over the edge that they intended to ride. If the show had ended with season 3, they could very well have finished the series with Clarke and Bellamy finally admitting their feelings. But they got  two more seasons, so they pushed those romantic 3B-4A feelings, until the very edge of making them canon, on both Clarke’s side and Bellamy’s, and then pulled it back again. None of this would have been possible if they had given us more in season 1. Or it wouldn’t have felt as apocalyptic. And guess, what? They want this story to be apocalyptic.

Hi, Lou! Now that Olicity is reunited, I thought it would be interesting to go back and see the much-hated plot of the other LIs. And I noticed such interesting things in that! Remember when we were at the beginning of the season debating with the whole thing “Felicity has a new bf, she moved on”? After 5x20 you realize what big bs is this whole “Felicity trying to move on” thing? 

How does all her behavior in 5A make sense? 

Felicity never even tried to move on! She never really even said that! It was just other characters assuming! Her reluctance to take Billy as a boyfriend becomes obvious bc he wasn’t. He was just a shield! He was Sara! Someone easy, who is there and prevents you from doing what you really desperately yearn to do but think is wrong! No wonder his death took Felicity in a spiral. She was using the guy, only that already made her feel guilty, each scene of the two shows this. Then he ended up dying because of it. 

Blame and more guilt, more parallels with Sara and we can still add Shado in the mix! The thing gets even more ironic when we think of Susan. Oliver was the one who trying to move on! Do you realize the hot mess? Oliver trying to move on, thinking that Felicity had already done this while Felicity uses Billy as a shield so as not to jump on Oliver every night! Then Billy die, Felicity buries himself in the bunker in guilt, loneliness and anger. Oliver dates Susan. And now we have another parallel! Susan is Ray! With the right up to the fandom to interpret every little act of hers as obscure and wrong! As I suspected when I watched 5a, this entire season, including Big Bad himself, was designed with Olicity in mind! 

I know, everyone will say it’s drama for drama, that it would not need any of this for them to grow up! I would agree if we were talking about a man other than Oliver with his tendency to make the same mistakes again and again and a woman who wasn’t Felicity and her rejection issues. Oliver’s troublesome behavior (hiding things from loved ones out of fear of not being worthy) conflicted directly with Felicity’s troublesome behavior (requirement of total acceptance by the people she loves for not to feel rejected ). 

You know the thing about psychological problems is that you can not turn them off when you want. There is no such thing as “this decision was driven by the problem, but that decision no.” The thing is “all decisions are distorted by the problem”. They are small voices that you listen to all the time without even realizing that they are there and when you have to make a big, hard decision these problems sure unconsciously push you towards a standard behavior. Dealing with problems require bringing them to consciousness, to know that they are there and will affect their decisions. Felicity works her rejection problems “by understanding why the person did what he did”. That’s why after 3x05 her relationship with Donna improves. That’s why after 5x20 she’s ready to accept Oliver again. His confession and her experiences this year gave her that understanding. 

To be honest, as much as I want to see Smoak Technologies, I hope the upcoming seasons work about Felicity’s rejection problems. I love my baddas characters but I also love watching them struggle with their issues and disabilities. On the other hand, Oliver has very, very slowly learned over the years to work on his problems, to realize that the people who love him will not leave him when they discover his secrets. In s2 fb, Shado finds out about Sara and rejected him. S1, Tommy finds out about Oliver and rejects him, but in the end the love is stronger. S2 and S3, Moira and Thea discovers, accepts him and are proud of Oliver. It was insufficient however, he needed learn to stop doing them and the break up with Felicity made him finally see how self-defeating his behavior was. 

He spent s5 trying to change that, but his inner fears were hard to break until Chase exposed them. His confession to Diggle and Felicity and their fully conviction about the man show him the path. Has he fully able to deal with his problems? Hardly but as we all know Oliver’s superpower is his stubbornness and now that he has found the way he will not give up. I know most of the fandom hated the break up and the other LIs but for me it only confirmed that these two were meant to be together. 

When Oliver lied to Felicity he made a big mistake because of his problems but that would inevitably happen and would be repeated many times, as Felicity pointed out. On the other hand, at some point Felicity would run away out because of her rejection problems, as 2x06 foreshadowed. As it was, their problems led them to conflict and separation, but also led them to learn, grow, become better people. This is how it is known that a couple was made to last.

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Some fantastic stuff from @ gordogatochato well worth a read! I knew from 301 that Olicity were endgame on Arrow and their breakup only confirmed it for me. Their breakup was a big story arc that feed both characters as individuals so they could come back together as something bigger and better than ever before. They are both so much more complete now, which means together they will be so much happier and stronger. :D

Queen Sugar S2.E14 On These I Stand... Thoughts

s/o to Oprah, Ava, the cast and crew, director Christina Voros and writers Anthony Sparks & Jason Wilborn for this amazing ep! 

short & sweet: The title is from On These I Stand, an anthology of Countee Cullen’s best poems. The poems were chosen by Cullen, and the book was published posthumously in 1947 (one year after his death).

If I had to take a gander I’d say that Countee is telling the readers that these selected poems are his legacy; on them he stands. He wanted to be remembered by those poems, those words. Out of all his works he wanted these to be recognized; they summed him up and gave a scope of who he was. What you do on earth needs to be worthy enough (to you) to stand on at the end of it all. Your word, your values, your life’s work etc etc… do they truly represent you and what you believe? If that’s all you have at the end of the day are they meaningful and impactful enough to stand for you?


I knew this ep would be super good w/ Anthony Sparks and Jason Wilborn teaming up. That being said this might be my favorite S2 episode so far. I’m anxious to learn what comes next for this gorgeous, messy family.

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What happened in the pool scene

After the incident with the old lady who started describing him, Moriarty stopped forcing the hostages to call Sherlock, probably because he feared that Sherlock would recognise him as Jim from IT. Meanwhile, Sherlock believed the missile plans was what Moriarty actually was looking for, but he was wrong. The reason Jim never communicated with him for the fifth case is because this case was about him and Sherlock (and John) and apparently he predicted that Sherlock, utterly excited, would use anything as an excuse to meet the promising nemesis. But Moriarty didn’t care about the Bruce-Partington plans (neither did Mycroft, actually) and consequently managed to surprise and impress the detective by throwing the USB drive into the water.

Anyway, Sherlock was the one who asked for a meeting (just like in Reichenbach). It seems Moriarty can never refuse an invitation coming from Sherlock. After one last big joke, when he made Sherlock believe that John is the villain, he appeared, showing all his power and intelligence. But there was a problem in this scene, I believe. The pool-Moriarty was very different from the phone-calls-Moriarty. 

Jim first appeared as a gay man interested in Sherlock. In his phone calls his words are undeniably romantic; he even said that they were made for each other. However, while he went on with all the gay / sexual  innuendos / jokes in the pool scene, he claimed that it was just a game aiming to make Sherlock “back off”. He claimed he enjoyed “playing gay”. Then he threatened him that if Sherlock didn’t stop prying, he would destroy him emotionally and eventually kill him. But there is a problem with all these threats and I think Sherlock was able to trace it. 

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My first *Peraltiago* fic rec

What Now? by author_abz

“I was happy. I didn’t know and I was happy because I didn’t know. Now I know and it hurts. But it’s a warm, achy kind of hurt I thought was made up, but it’s real because I feel it, and all I had to do was ask.”

Jake is drunk and rambles to Amy.

Girls Only Say ‘Hate You’ to the Guys That They Love by sadesmae

Jake wants to go out with Kylie.

That’s My Kind Of Risk by LaurytheLatrator

Amy smokes. It’s not a big deal or anything.

(Three moments when Peralta caught Santiago smoking.)

10 times Jake or Amy babysitted Terry’s twins and ended up together or not by weasleyspotter

or the 10 steps it took for Jake and Amy to get together.

eyes shut (it’s you i’m thinking of) by cresselia

Teddy cancels the date, and Amy finally makes her way to the bar.

we share, we care, we grow together by Kasuchi

“Argh, you’re one of those girls aren’t you? All perfect and stuff?” Jake looked put-upon. “I bet you make perfect grades and you shower every day.” What if Brooklyn Nine-Nine was a little less Barney Miller and a little more Hey Arnold? A full-on cracky AU.

Bribery Will Get You Everywhere by Marks

Jake gets bribed into visiting Santiago’s family for Christmas. It’s not bad, but don’t tell anyone that.

she wears her heart on her sleeve by cresselia

“She should be drunk for this.

But she’s not. Instead, she’s completely sober and completely in control of her actions, her own lips centimeters away from Jake’s.”

Amy struggles with her seemingly gravitational pull towards Jake while trying to remain faithful to her own moral code.

of realizations and rooftops by nereid

In which everyone talks about Jake, Amy’s in denial and burns Jake’s hair. A bit.

Tonight You’re Perfect by sadesmae

Jake and Amy meet at Warped Tour. This is not an alternate universe, this totes happens.

Unresolved by RubyCaspar

Based on spoilers for s1 finale - when Jake is fired, Amy is forced to confront her feelings for her partner… and can only hope it’s not too late.

‘cause I’m not feeling anything at all by plumfield

Teddy’s everything she looks for in a guy. He’s a consummate professional, a great listener, and a total gentleman to boot. He pulls chairs out for her, holds doors open, and picks up every tab; if she has to reschedule a date because a case has come up, he understands, because it’s just as likely to happen to him.

After five dates, she can picture exactly what their life together is going to be like.

something suitable by birdbox (Bella_Barbaric)

“Oh, and I want you in your Sunday best,” Jake tells her over the phone.

“What?! All my 90s Bat Mitzvah dresses are at the dry cleaners!” Amy teases, even though she knows she’s still got the blue montrosity he gave her to wear on their ‘first’ date at the back of her closet.

“They are? Well, you know that’s a deal breaker for me, Santiago—we can’t go. Date cancelled.”

Stay, Stay, Stay by startoftime

The four times Jake and Amy shared a bed, and the one time Jake tells her it’s something more.

Cops and Robbers by disastersaurus

It’s a damn good arrest, Amy thinks, and the captain’s going to be so proud of her. The only thing that could be better is if the guy would just shut up.

If You Like Piña Colada by pyrodynamo

So a while back, Jake maybe writes a list. On the top, underlined twice, he’d scribbled, things that I maybe kind of are okay about Amy Santiago. It quickly deteriorated into a list that sounded like the worst I think I like-like her novel ever written.

Just a regular everyday normal couple by DanicaGentozzi

Jake and Amy struggling with the everyday little things that every couple, at one time or another, have to go through in a relationship.

The Bet by myrifique

Peralta and Santiago set a date for the end of the bet.

Interaction series by YankeesGirl28

Five times Amy wants to talk to her partner after he leaves and the one time she does.

Or five times Jake wants his partner to say something and the one time she does.

the most important meal of the day by disastersaurus

Jake + 10 Breakfasts.

What If We Love Like Fools by LaurytheLatrator

Weddings were one of the only occasions where adults got dressed to the nines and slow danced. And Amy was here, sitting at her table, sipping her champagne and poking at the bizarre unpronounceable meat on her plate. She felt so pathetic.

god only knows what i’d be without you by satellites (brella)

Amy Santiago, Jake Peralta, and rear view mirrors. (Or: five times Jake and Amy drove each other somewhere.)

I Know My Coffee’s Cold by TheBoyWhoStoppedTheApocalypse

“I don’t want to bother you,” he waved a hand. “Well, you already bothered me by walking up to me,” she looked up at him. “Tooshy.” “It’s touché,” she corrected.

High Crimes and Misdemeanors by Kasuchi

“I got cold,” he said, one shoulder (the one not pressed against the doorjamb) shrugging, like the sentence was the most natural thing in the world, like he woke up on her couch in a t-shirt and boxers with his entire body wrapped around hers on the regular and it was no big deal.

he sings the songs that remind him by Kasuchi

Rosa stands. “Talking’s for wusses. We’re going drinking.” Teddy and Amy break up, so naturally everyone goes to the bar together.

feet are where i landed by 40millionyears

“says the woman who’s been engaged eight times.” this has always been her downfall: distracted by something sparkly, she’ll agree to pretty much anything.

Good Morning by Gabby

Or Amy wakes up the morning after an unexpected night, internally freaks out, and then lets her mind wander.

The Unbearable Lightness Of Being A Cop by amathela (Zhailei)

Starring Detective Theodore Bear, New York’s Finest (and cuddliest).

and the world spins madly on by 40millionyears

post 1x22. something bad goes down (or, jake dies and amy’s left to deal and the author is terribly sorry)

Black Lace & Handcuffs (Or Doing It Santiago Style) by Gabby

Amy divulges secret fantasies to her surprised, delighted boyfriend - and learns the art of being uninhibited, Santiago-style.

if only for tonight by Bookie

“I wasn’t smoking,” she says frantically, and Jake is overwhelmed at how adorable she is.

too long on the borderline by mrs_nerimon

They haven’t seen each other for nearly five months, he’s supposed to be working undercover, and she’s got soy sauce spilled on her shirt.

Red Fish, Blue Fish by Kasuchi

Jake beamed back at her, thumb rubbing small circles on the inside of her leg. “No, see, you’re slipping, Santiago. I’ve been on the force for twelve years. I’ve been around lots of cops, and you’re definitely one of the best.”

i look into your eyes, falling by uppercasemad

Navigating domesticity and the surprises it offers.

Act/React by Kasuchi

Later, they don’t talk about it, but for weeks Jake is startled awake from dreams of cafe-con-leche skin and a hot, insistent mouth on his. Jake likes making Amy laugh.

I’m In Heaven by Gabby

Or the time Jake learns he should really know better than to sneak around to spy on the object of his affection when he’s not supposed to.

you should be standing right next to me (instead of two feet in front of me) by sadesmae

He rents a boat. Like an actual fishing boat… because one time she mentioned that she’s never been and that she always kind of wanted to go.

it’s better to feel pain than nothing at all by cresselia

He’ll always be second best when she’s sober.

Until We Make This Right (I Won’t Say Goodnight) by YankeesGirl28

It’s not like you expected her to break up with him or anything. // Eventual Jake/Amy

prime (and otherwise) by rollingplains

In which they discuss an alternate universe while in this one, to pass the time.

Whiskey and pancakes by ferggirl

Happy hour hasn’t been this happy in god knows how long. Boyle is beside himself — Sarge has actually had to pick him up off the floor twice. Rosa’s been spotted smiling by no fewer than seven people.

And Amy Santiago is getting rip-roaring drunk.

The Many Times Jake is a Moron and the Few Times he Isn’t by everhtorne

“I bet you never thought this would happen,” Jake speculates, his voice faintly hopeful as if he’s trying to cheer Amy up. “You and me in a dark room together.”

Five Times Jake Makes Terrible Choices, and One Time Amy Does by Crowsfan

Jake never expected his terrible, terrible ideas to work out for him.

Primary and Secondary by Kasuchi

He pulled his hand away from his face and casually placed it on her thigh. She felt it, warm and heavy, through her jeans. Five times they don’t talk about what happened, and one time they do. (Sequel to Red Fish, Blue Fish.)

rest your bones by lilypupu

Drabbles for the Domesticity Meme. Part 2: Food, nicknames, and a lot of profanity (not that Jake understands any of it).

Hands by Diaphenia

“If we’re going undercover, you’re going to have to be quicker on your feet,” Jake said, insufferably smug.

Amy huffed. “Well, this is why I wanted to go over everything with you. Preparation is the soul of… preparedness.”

justyourregularperson  asked:

I think the beautiful thing is after their almost relationship in S2-S3, Hyde could have fallen in love with Jackie at any point in time. I personally think he fell gradually in love with her during S2/3 but during S4 was in love her. And that he knew it too, but didn't vocally say it until he fucked up their relationship by sleeping with the nurse and knew he needed her to know he did love her.

Oh, I totally agree with you!!  I don’t know if I would call it “love” that early in the story, but I do believe that Hyde had been stifling some sort of burgeoning feelings for Jackie since Moon Over Point Place (possibly even earlier) which then came to a head in Jackie Bags Hyde.  I think that he was finally forced to confront and accept his feelings for her in that episode, and was brought up short when she claimed not to feel anything in return.  BUT, the writing was so choppy that, regardless of what makes sense in-universe, I don’t think that that the writers intended for either Hyde or Jackie to be carrying any feeling for one another between Jackie Bags Hyde and Going to California.

This is what drives me nuts about the writing on T7S - it’s sporadic as f*ck.  And even though I’m very glad they got together in Going to California, they could have done a MUCH better job of writing the transition between Jackie wanting to marry Kelso one minute, and then all over Hyde in the very next episode.  So yeah, the only way to make sense of it is to say that they were harboring unresolved feelings for one another all that time, but I don’t think that’s what the writers intended. However, based on what we can actually point to in canon (regardless of whether it was accidental or not), this is what there is to support that:  

1. Hyde and Jackie seemed to more-or-less ignore one another after their kiss and right up to the point when she and Kelso got back together again in The Trials of Michael Kelso.  Once that happened, though, he went right back to trying to break them up and his voiced reasons for doing so were not all that different from when he was trying to get Kelso caught.  So I say, if you think his unspoken reason for trying to break them up the first time around was because he maybe kinda sorta liked Jackie, then I say the same must have been true the second time around.   2. He sure was awfully protective of her when Wuffy went after her in Eric’s Depression - I’m just sayin’. 3. Jackie’s grand contribution to the “let’s find Hyde a girlfriend” was Big Rhonda.  It’s no secret that Jackie wants to be the hottest girl in the room at all times, but I’m counting it. 4. “The floor’s real shiny, and I can see your hiney.” 5. Hyde’s Birthday Kiss.  I think that was written in more so that Kelso could have an opportunity to get on her case about kissing other guys *ahem*hypocrite*ahem* but considering how close that kiss occurred to the season 5 premiere, if the writers already had some idea of where they were going with that storyline (and that’s a big “if” because continuity was not their strong suit), that’s the closest thing I can come up with to foreshadowing. 6. Regardless of whether or not they like liked each other at this point, I think we can say that they were definitely friends.  They didn’t spend one-on-one time together that we saw, and he certainly didn’t stop teasing her, but it was the same, good-natured hard time that he gave to the rest of them - Eric and Donna included.  He no longer seemed to be annoyed by her presence in the basement like he had been in S1.  He approved of her burns, was on her side any time she and Kelso were fighting, and I would bet good money that he was the one who won all of those prizes she had at Funland.  

So basically, yeah, my headcanon is that Hyde still liked her during S3 and S4, but tried to ignore it - and because Hyde’s a master of swallowing his feelings, I think he did a pretty good job of convincing himself that those feelings had never existed.  Personally, I think he was properly in love with her the minute he had to stand his ground with Kelso.  With Eric and Donna, he could get away with saying (both to them and to himself) “We’re just having fun and it’s none of your damn business.”  With Kelso, though, he risked possibly ending a friendship with one of his best friends, and that’s no small thing.  Again, I think Hyde is a master of self-deception, and so I don’t think he ever really acknowledged to himself that it was “love” until the “get off my boyfriend” incident.  I think he was 100% in a position to say it back when Jackie blurted out that she was in love with him, and the only reason he didn’t was because of his pride.  The only problem is that, like so many other instances on this show, I’m not sure what the writers had in mind for them during those off seasons. <3
About the “MILATHOS ENCOUNTER” interview


Damage control all the way.
There is no way an actor reveals spoilers without the approval of the showrunners. So the question is why and why now?
Let me explain:

As already mentioned this interview contained a HUGE spoiler, not only for milathos fans, but for fans of Milady and Athos separately, as well as fans indifferent to either one of them, who in regards to those characters also remember were they were left at the end of season 2, and either anticipated for or just expected their “reunion” as something crucial to both their arcs.

I think the words that were chosen are sadly diminishing to all the history of the ship, or at least to the, very much shown in seasons 1&2, affect those characters (good or bad) have on each other.

Firstly the reunion (notice the word “encounter”) is described as economical which is sadly true, and I say sadly because most people would agree, whatever the ending between them, these characters needed at least one long conversation about everything that happened.(but that is a whole other topic aka the “redemption arc” I am going to analyze elsewhere). And even with Maimie being available for only few scenes I’ll never understand why of all her 8 or 9 scenes only one was with the character she had the most history with, which also happened to be the one with larger arc this season, and that scene happened to be “economical” (at least with Treville she has actual dialogue!). For me the only explanation is the showrunners’ fear that the undeniably massive chemistry between the actors if expended in screen time would destroy any chance for any other believable endgame for Athos.

Anyway, then we have the “realizing that whatever was between them has slipped away”

The word “whatever” could imply the complexity of the things they were feeling for each other (which is granded) but sadly I just think it was used to avoid the word “love” between them.

I mean at this point, after seasons 2 ending where they were clearly willing to give each other a chance (the current showrunners  implied at the Q&A that he was even willing to leave with her, which I do not think was the case -for me that answer was also damage control) would it be so wrong  to use that word “love”?(even if only to state it didn’t exist anymore).

The actors in previous interviews weren’t reluctant at all about the characters feelings. Even in season 1 interviews, when they were pretty much antagonists (she trying to kill him, him believing her to be a cold blooded murderess), Tom reffered to Milady as the “love of his life” said “his feelings for her was something he could not control”, then about her return in season 2 (and although s1 ended with him still not believing her and threatening to kill her) he said “he missed his wife” and that “she was the biggest thing in his life, even bigger than the musketeers” and how her sleeping with the king made him feel “physically sick” and he “resented him” and her sleeping with anyone else “was a massive issue” for Athos.

Not to mention Maimie’s interviews were she spoke for both the characters and said they were “definitely The One for each other” and they both know they “love each other” even if they won’t admit it and that Milady is the only one that can tell him that he loves her no matter what cause that’s the truth.

What I’m trying to say is if the point was to just to say that it was over between them (which partially is) he could (and would be more natural to) use the word “love” because: 1. In the fans’ minds (even anti-milathos fans) they were one of the 3 pairs of the show and the question was about the return of Milady aka Athos “one time Lover” 2. It wouldn’t contradict the previous interviews and most importantly the story arcs of seasons1&2, and of course it would be nice for us if at least that “once existing love” was acknowledged!

I think that acknowledgment had to be avoided because God Forbid anyone reminds the fans that these two were ever in love! Now, its obvious in S3 that for the showrunners  Milady’s arc continues from season 1 (for them season 2 doesn’t exist, oh the irony!) but even in that season’s interviews, as mentioned above, the milathos relationship was acknowledged more…

Then we get the oh so nice “slipped away”. Now for anyone who actually viewed that scene, regardless of their feelings about either of the characters, I think I can safely say that the words “slipped away” were soooo unfortunate to describe it.

THAT SCENE WAS SO DAMN INTENSE!!! I mean his reaction to her is so visceral: she is sitting down (so not even her whole figure showing), her hairdo is new, he only sees her back and the minute he enters he just knows it’s her… and he nearly has a heart attack!!! And I haven’t seen anyone mentioning it (probably bc s3 doesn’t exist) but when he freezes, catches the doorframe for balance and just as the camera moves to her turning around he sighs “Anne” (reminded me of S1x3, ah!). And from that moment and throughout the whole scene you can hear him breathing so heavily, like he is fighting for air (as in s2x9 after the kiss, ah). He walks to her before he even say a word and holds her, caressing the back of her neck and then their lips collapse! THAT KISS! And once again he is the one that deepens it, so much hunger and longing, you can see her head lean backwards from the force with which he sucks her! And he stops, sighing a whispered “God”, trying to catch a breath, lingering a little his forehead and nose against hers, tells her she should go, so eagerly like he is afraid and needs her to go (he actually says “you need to go”), no explanation, and after only few words (and the way I see it yet another miscommunication between them) HE CHOKES HER! And if chocking isn’t intense I don’t know what is! It doesn’t even matter what you see in that scene- some people saw just shock, distraught, attraction, distrust, I personally saw regret, longing, lust, anger and hate (I’m sure some milathos fans see love at least in that kiss, if just their twisted kind of love),- what matters is the intensity of everything about it.

IT IS EXACTLY THAT INTENSITY SCENE THAT CONTRADICTS THE TONE IMPLIED BY THE WORDS “SLIPPED AWAY”.

For me “Slipped away” implies quietness, calmness, indifference. It suits relationships ending due to the inability of lovers to provoke intense emotions to each other anymore, which usually comes with the triviality of everyday life, something fading slowly over the years… and the realization comes naturally,  still bitterly but almost painlessly just as a circle comes to an end and there is nothing left to say.    

And I don’t see that being the case here.    

So there are two options:

a.)either they were really going for that idea and completely failed to deliver it, which for me, given the undoubted talent of both these actors and their tendency to deliver so efficiently every scene, the way it was all directed, and the lack of dialogue about “whatever was between them”, simply isn’t the case.

b.) this is just another attempt at damage control (along the line of all the spinning going around from the showrunners in their interviews)

I think they all have seen fans reactions in the social media and yes there were fans that loved this season but unlike the previous seasons there are also many fans that really hated the season! And from what I’ve seen a really large majority of them (especially on twitter) are Athos’ fans (and not milathos fans).  Now given the fact that Athos’ arc is huge this season and many devoted fans are Tom’s fans they know this negativity will affect how the whole show is perceived.

What most fans disagree with are the changes in Athos as a character but also his new romance storyline and since a big amount of his screen time involves his new love interest they need to do damage control and try to sell this new ship. From what I’ve seen there are Athos fans (especially those who love book Athos) that just hate the idea of romance for him regardless with whom, others that think that in order for this new romance to work the writers changed (destroyed) Athos character, others that loved him brooding the previous seasons and don’t like the fact that he suddenly seems so open to a new relationship (again this has to do with the changes they see and can’t accept), others that just aren’t satisfied with the development of the relationship (too fast from bed to love), others who just hate the Sylvie character or find it underdeveloped and many others that just hate the lack of chemistry between the actors.

I’ve seen Athos’ fans that are anti-milathos/milady’s haters (because she is “bad”) and still hate Sylvie even more (although she’s “good”) or are just so frustrated by the lack of chemistry that say they would prefer him with Milady, and other fans, not necessarily milady haters, that all they ever wanted was for Athos to find a “new, healthy” love and just be happy and it still didn’t work for them!

As for the others fans in general (Constagnan, Annamis shippers), some are indifferent to the new character, some like it, some find the character annoying (many due to the amount of screen time she gets for no valid -for them- reason) and many criticize the lack of chemistry. Overall and for whatever reasons most of the fans who don’t like the Athos/Sylvie relationship (and I’m sure there are many people who love it) describe it as forced and unbelievable.

So for me the showrunners just want to make that ship more believable and more easily accepted by those who haven’t seen the series yet.

Why give away such a spoiler?

I mean there must be fans who anticipated for that meeting and stayed spoiler free, why ruin it for them? Wouldn’t it be more intriguing if the fans got to watch the Sylvie/Athos relationship develop having in mind that Milady was to return later without knowing what the outcome would be? Wouldn’t that keep them hanging on their seats? Those are valid thoughts so why? Why give that spoiler? Because they have more to gain than lose at this point!

In regards to the people who anticipated for that reunion those are the milathos fans, and given the fact that we knew Milady’s appearance was brief its safe to say that most hardcore milathos fans (even if they planned to  see the whole season when aired) couldn’t wait for that particular scene and have already seen it. Yes there are still a few who haven’t and I am really sorry for what’s in store for them (I saw a twitter the other day –before the interview- of a fan asking about Milady and the glove, and Simon Allen answered he hasn’t forgotten about the glove and the fan was happy and I thought ahahaha!). So maybe now knowing the outcome some milathos fans won’t see it, but most of them would think why not, they waited so long and it doesn’t sound that bad, just bitter sweet, you know “slipped away” …. They will probably think that Milady and Athos are going to have this nice, quiet conversation and part on amicable terms…  So there won’t be many casualties in viewing numbers.

Now apart from the milathos fans, for the others fans why not use the intrigue described above (who will he choose?). Answer: it simply wouldn’t work in favor of the new ship. Why? Because there will be those who will love Sylvie/Athos from the start, but for those even slightly skeptical (and given the fans reactions so far, there will be many) it will be much easier to accept the new ship if the air was cleared about milathos from the start. I mean I think most fans if they thought that Athos was going to face that dilemma (given S2 end and at least at the beginning of this season) they would assume that Milady would be the obvious choice, and even if they hated the idea of milathos ending together the fact that it would seem most likely  would prevent them from investing in the new ship.

Furthermore the fans know that Athos (season 1&2) was obsessed with Milady for years, therefore he  was reluctant about romance and the fact that he just jumps into a new relationship so quickly and early in this season does seem strange if not unbelievable, so it’s better if the fans have in mind from the start the “Milady curse” has been broken, so the character changes may be more easily swallowed (not that I believe they have anything to do with Milady).

Finally, as the interview reveals milathos is not endgame, fans now will also know who, by default, will be endgame and even just that knowledge sometimes works in favor of a ship, you accept it as inevitable, so you focus looking for the nice things about it, dismissing the annoying, or wrong, or unrealistic ones..

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Psycho-Pass Official Profiling 2: Interviews

Here’s all the interviews from the Official Profiling 2 book. (Well, except for the ones with Ling Toshite Shigure, Chelly from EGOIST, and Yugo Kanno. Aka the ones in charge of the music. Sorry about that.) They include the following:

  • Staff – General Director – Motohiro Katsuyuki
  • Cast – Hanazawa Kana (Akane), Fujiwara Keiji (Tougane), Kimura Ryohei (Kamui)
  • Cast – Hanazawa Kana (Akane), Seki Tomokazu (Kougami)
  • Staff – original story concept & screenplay – Urobuchi Gen; 2nd season structure – Ubukata Tow
  • Staff – Director – Shiotani Naoyoshi

Under the cut are a lot of words (almost 13k), but here are the takeaways:

  • Like I theorized way back, Psycho-Pass is not a series with a fixed start-end plot, but a sandbox where only certain elements of the world and certain characters are set in stone. Thus new writers, etc can come in and play with the pieces every single time. Even the staff’s all “there are so many side stories and spinoffs that we’ll leave it up to you to figure out canon” from them.

  • The movie was thought up, planned, and put into production before they ever considered season two. I repeat, the movie was always the priority, and the gears started moving right when they finished s1.
  • Apocalypse Now was a huge inspiration for the movie.
  • Everyone (cast, staff) agrees that if a certain character had been there in s2, the case would have been wrapped up right away and there would have been no s2. (So unbelievably true, but grrrrrr)

  • Shimotsuki Mika is beloved by the staff for the exact same reason that fans dislike her (“she’s what Sibyl thinks a true Inspector is”).
  • Hinakawa was always made to be a foil to other characters (poor boy).

  • If you didn’t know, many of the important staff figures spent a lot of their careers on live action, crime series, etc, and really love Western scifi/crime/etc media, which is one of the reasons why PP feels so different from a typical anime you see nowadays.
  • The recording cast left an empty chair in the studio for you know who during s2, and HanaKana basically said at one point, “Please come back already!”
  • And if nothing else, read the two cast interviews!

Spoilers for s2 and the movie, obviously, under the cut.

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jaydragonmite  asked:

I noticed that someone is bringing up the "Remembrances" episode, trying to say Korrasami is bad writing; about how most of the episode is focused on Mako and should've ended with Mako and Korra together. It really bothers me because the person clearly didn't pay attention to the previous episode (AND BOOK 3) which was Korrasami heavy and I don't want to bring this person into the crapper, so I'd figure I'd get your opinion. What do you think of Mako's part in that episode?

This is a really good question, and I’m glad you asked because I wanted to gush about Mako for a little bit. I was never his biggest fan, and BOY did he shock me in the best way possible in the finale. Who’s ready for another novel? Gah.

Mako’s Character Arc & Role in Remembrances

I think saying “Korrasami” is bad writing is kind of like saying “I don’t enjoy romances.” Which is fine, that’s valid, that’s totally valid. I’m not a huge romantic myself, and there’s certain romance tropes that make me gag. But my intense Korrasami analyses are a testament to how strong I personally find this narrative. It’s not a typical romance trope, and it’s one that is entirely built upon character’s emotional needs and balance. I think it’s really well-scripted, and going back and watching S3/S4 with it in mind (S1 didn’t have the end game in sight, and S2 had a hilariously side-lined Asami) really lets it shine.

No no, back to the compound for you, Asami.

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Aichi Collaboration 2015 (*update 11/4)

Hey so I was hoping to do a major aichi collaboration for his birthday (6th June) and I understand everyone has their own commitments and shit which they gotta handle so i’m asking early

So it’s gonna be like a major collaboration in this order: EXCUSE THE SHITTY DOODLE CUZ IM LAZY and i dont wanna cockblock anyone’s idea of poses

So the bare minimum we need is

  1. Shota kid aichi
  2. S1 aichi
  3. S2 aichi
  4. S3 aichi
  5. S4 aichi
  6. Neon messiah aichi
  7. CFV G Aichi

And IF we have extra artists we can include [NOW OPEN - closing on 1st May]

  1. S1 shirt shirt aichi
  2. S1 hitsue uniform aichi
  3. S2 hoodie Aichi
  4. S3 uniform aichi
  5. S3 alt outfit aichi
  6. Neon messiah alt aichi
  7. Neon messiah uniform aichi
  8. Neon messiah naked aichi which idk how to fit in but naked aichi so yay
  9. Ride the Stage Aichi 
  10. Cray wars aichi
  11. Blaster Blade Aichi (likely to be background) **

** - since it might be the background, hisuri and I have agreed that it should be the largest (1500px, 300dpi at the bare minimum) 

It’ll be arranged in timeline order (I’m seeing Neon messiah as a parallel timeline because it wouldn’t tally with the actual plot. Link Joker was meant to be a never seen before clan in S3 and after S3 Aichi wouldn’t be in any position to go for the Messiah Scramble. Wouldn’t tally with post S4 either because Ultra rare and takuto were not supposed to be there past then)

Artists so far (names struck out have already completed their entry)

  1. Me (Neon Messiah Aichi)
  2. Hisuri (S4 Aichi)
  3. Yueppi (Shota Aichi)
  4. Lisa - toshikitty (S1 Aichi)  replaced by Hisuri
  5. Sheena - skai-flake (S2 Aichi) replaced by Eko
  6. Snips (Shirt-Shirt Aichi)
  7. Fall (Hoodie Aichi)
  8. Sanaki (CFV G Aichi)
  9. Aqua- aquamemoirs (S3 Aichi)
  10. cha_mathis (S3 uniform Aichi)
  11. Hiro Mashiro (S3 alt Aichi)
  12. kono_mii (NM Aichi uniform)
  13. DyingCuttle (NM alt Aichi)
  14. -
  15. -
  16. -

Idk about background maybe once we decided the aichis we can discuss later.

NOTE:

Regarding Art

  • Uhm, because this is the first post vanguard collaboration for aichi’s birthday, we really wanna have a really great artwork. So hisuri and I agreed that there should be a minimum standard in the artwork. don’t get me wrong, it’s not that we’re being nit-picky or anything, but we really want our first big collaboration since aichi stopped appearing in the anime to be great and stuff. So… I’m sorry if I reject any of you guys. I’m sure you guys will improve over time and yeah, really sorry. I know it sucks when your works get rejected so I really didnt wanna reject anyone. But because we have minimum slots we really wanna make it as special as possible.

Regarding admin stuffs

  • Please submit your drawings to me BY 1ST OF JUNE (which means before 1st of June at 0000 GMT +8) so that I have some time to collate and deal with backgrounds.
  • Participation will be closed in May 1st so that artists will have at least a month to work on their parts
  • Last minute artworks will not be accepted. Entries have been closed by May 1st to ensure that you have at least 1 month to work on your part in the collaboration. Please be serious about it. 
  • IF YOU WANNA SUBMIT WAAAY BEFORE THE DEADLINE PLEASE DO IT’LL MAKE LIFE SO MUCH EASIER FOR ME OMG I LOVE YOU
  • And yes fullbody art.
  • Digital art, and your art should have a minimum width of 1000px for better quality
  • Full coloured art because it’s a big collaboration and all of us really want the end product to be great
  • Further clarifications on outfit because what i think is alt might not be what you think and we end up drawing the same thing