but here you go at the end there is that one line about sandor

heatherlanntheclever  asked:

Is there any chance of a happy ending for the Lannisters? I know they are awful people but why develop their motivations and give each of them a genuine moment of compassion if they are just going to murder each other? Every other POV gets a moment of truth/redemption why not the children of Tywin/Patriarchy/Aerys and Disability? I'm a bad person myself so I need to believe the Lions can defy themselves and prophesy and overcome their nature or what's the point? Not all of us are born Starks.

Hey! So it’s gonna take me a few minutes to answer your question, but I promise I’m gonna get there.

In one of the other shows I watch, an actor commented on the banality of evil. He said that evil is something commonplace. Given the right circumstances, great acts of evil could be committed by your neighbors, or your friends, or you, or me. Because evil is so easy. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” You needn’t be a monster like Gregor to commit evil; you need only be human. 

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Disobeying Orders

Anonymous asked: Can I request a sandor x reader. Shes from a northern house and is in KL and joffery sends sandor to beat her but when he comes to her bed chambers they just end up talking. They become very close over time and then the next time he comes to her room and finds shes running away so promises to take her safely… And as they’re on the road and travelling, she ends up giving him her family Valyrian sword as she’s the only one left of her line. Any ending you like :)

Here is your one-shot, anon! I do not own Sandor or Joffrey. They belong to George R.R.Martin. 

Warnings: angst, mentions of possible beating, running away, a teeny bit of fluff

Pairings: Sandor Clegane x fem!reader, Joffrey Baratheon

Originally posted by sansanfan97

You weren’t sure what you did to incur Joffrey’s wrath, but whatever it was, you knew it was bad. Instead of punishing you outright, Joffrey had told two of the Gold Cloaks to escort you to your chambers and to keep you there. That was worse. The wait was pure torture and made you wish that you’d never come to King’s Landing. You wished you’d stay in the North. Still, it was too late to change it now. You sat on your bed, wringing your hands as you waited for Joffrey’s punishment.

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anonymous asked:

Can you explain about arya being a child soldier?

sure can! first here’s two questions from this interview with grrm about arya 

So when you had first introduced Arya, you knew she was going to become an assassin?
Well she’s not an assassin yet. You are assuming she is going to become one. She’s an apprentice.

But she’s already going around killing people and she’s learned a lot of the secrets.
Not only in Ice and Fire — we also did this bit in the Wild Cards series, the whole thing of the child solider is a fascinating construct. We have this picture of children [as] so sweet and innocent. I think some of the recent history in Africa and some of the longer history have shown that under the right circumstances, they can become just as dangerous as men, and in some ways more dangerous. On some level, it’s almost a game to them.

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anonymous asked:

What are your thoughts on the Dorne revenge plot? It seems to be cool to shit over Doran & Oberyn even trying to get justice for Elia (Jon Arryn rewarded it) or bothering to worry about the Dornish common folk (the Tyrells & Lannisters don't care about their own). Ask about the North or the Riverlands, it is justified & lauded but Dorne is all about the 'water gardens are going to burn.'

I think there are two points of discussion here: the implications of the plot GRRM wrote, and the way fandom discusses it vis-à-vis the other revenge-driven plots. As far as the second point go, there is definitely a conversation to be had about how factions in fandom latch onto the obvious fallibility of Doran’s actions but ignore them from other characters, even though the vengeance commentary runs through so many stories from the very first book. It’s in Robert’s, Robb’s, Arya’s, Dany’s, Sandor’s, Tywin’s, Tyrion’s and others. There is also a tendency in many fandoms to deny PoC the space for a story about vengeance without utterly vilifying them for it, which has to be a point of criticism in a story that is filled to the brim with revenge quests because Doran should not be held to a different standard than the other characters. And I’ll raise you the tendency to dismiss a powerful scene such as Oberyn’s screaming at Clegane to “say her name” and reduce it to a mere manifestation of Oberyn’s desire for vengeance. Oh, you’ll have to pry this scene from my cold dead fingers.

However, I do not want this to be conflated with legit interpretation of the story Martin gave us and the imagery and foreshadowing he drops, or criticism of Doran’s motives and plans. It is not productive to take any and every discussion about the repercussions of Doran’s plans and the grievous mistakes he makes to be an attempt to shit over him and Oberyn. The theory about the Water Gardens burning isn’t an attempt to punish Dorne for daring to want revenge for Elia and her children, no one is reveling in it or thinks it’d be just, but as much as I really don’t want it to happen, it does fall in line with GRRM’s pattern when it comes to portraying the end results of revenge plots, and the progression of the Dornish storyline does not look promising. King’s Landing exploding and the Water Gardens burning are the Red Wedding and the Sack of Winterfell of the Dornish plot. You see the mistakes the characters are making and the path they are going to lead to, you want to scream at them to stop, turn back, don’t do this. But you know they are walking right into their doom.

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original-sadgirl  asked:

Can you name what you think is the "defining moment" for each individual book in the series (like you did with characters)?


“My father told everyone my bedding had caught fire, and our maester gave me ointments. Ointments! Gregor got his ointments too. Four years later, they anointed him with the seven oils and he recited his knightly vows and Rhaegar Targaryen tapped him on the shoulder and said, ‘Arise, Ser Gregor.’”

The rasping voice trailed off. He squatted silently before her, a hulking black shape shrouded in the night, hidden from her eyes. Sansa could hear his ragged breathing. She was sad for him, she realized. Somehow, the fear had gone away.

The silence went on and on, so long that she began to grow afraid once more, but she was afraid for him now, not for herself. She found his massive shoulder with her hand. “He was no true knight,” she whispered to him.

AGOT is about learning the rules, whether at King’s Landing, the Wall, or the Dothraki Sea, and IMO no fall-into-knowledge is as piercing and powerful as Sansa’s. While her response to Sandor’s backstory may seem naive on first read, I think that given where these characters and others (especially Davos and Brienne) go in the series, “he was no true knight” is meant as a radical reorganizing principle for a fallen world. That the patriarchy has failed to live up to the ideal of the true knight (or lord, or queen) does not and cannot tarnish that ideal, because it belongs to you, the individual. 

He found himself outside the city, walking through a world without color. Ravens soared through a grey sky on wide black wings, while carrion crows rose from their feasts in furious clouds wherever he set his steps. White maggots burrowed through black corruption. The wolves were grey, and so were the silent sisters; together they stripped the flesh from the fallen. There were corpses strewn all over the tourney fields. The sun was a hot white penny, shining down upon the grey river as it rushed around the charred bones of sunken ships. From the pyres of the dead rose black columns of smoke and white-hot ashes. My work, thought Tyrion Lannister. They died at my command.

And so the titular war of ACOK is encapsulated, in its protagonist’s devastating postscript. Not only does the lack of color intentionally blur the lines between the sides at the Blackwater, the dreamlike tone and the sense that Tyrion is standing somewhat outside the narrative buttresses the thematic links to the rest of the novel. Tyrion could be Theon at Winterfell at this moment, watching it burn; he could be Arya at Harrenhal, hearing the northmen attack Pia; he could be Jon, realizing his brotherhood subsidizes a monster like Craster. War makes monsters of us all. 

“Your Grace,” said Davos, “the cost…”

“I know the cost! Last night, gazing into that hearth, I saw things in the flames as well. I saw a king, a crown of fire on his brows, burning…burning, Davos. His own crown consumed his flesh and turned him into ash. Do you think I need Melisandre to tell me what that means? Or you?” The king moved, so his shadow fell upon King’s Landing. “If Joffrey should die…what is the life of one bastard boy against a kingdom?”

“Everything,” said Davos, softly.

The imagery of dead kings is of course apropos for ASOS, given the fates of Robb, Joffrey, and Balon. Yet there’s also a larger struggle at work here: Stannis and Davos are trying to synthesize an ethical thesis, a lesson to be learned, from the titular storm of swords. Stannis is committing himself to the pure utilitarianism that will doom Shireen come ADOS, but Davos offers an ideal not dissimilar to Sansa’s above: that the individual matters, their worth and potential have to be safeguarded, and otherwise Stannis is “no king at all.” 

Obvious as this is, I gotta go with the title-drop moments in AFFC and ADWD.

Crow’s Eye, you call me. Well, who has a keener eye than the crow? After every battle the crows come in their hundreds and their thousands to feast upon the fallen. A crow can espy death from afar. And I say that all of Westeros is dying. Those who follow me will feast until the end of their days.”

Consider this the flipside to the ACOK quote above: there are those who come to graveyards not to mourn, but to eat. AFFC, as I’ve said many a time, is about death and not getting your shit together. It’s a bitter satire about “squabbling over spoils” at a funeral, whether that funeral is Tywin’s, Lysa’s, Oberyn’s, Balon’s, or the continent’s. It’s about the decay and entropy wrought by the previous three books, and the widespread refusal to truly reckon with it. “All of Westeros is dying”…and so Euron’s time has come. 

After the girl was gone, the old knight peeled back the coverlet for one last look at Quentyn Martell’s face, or what remained of it. So much of the prince’s flesh had sloughed away that he could see the skull beneath. His eyes were pools of pus. He should have stayed in Dorne. He should have stayed a frog. Not all men are meant to dance with dragons.

ADWD is about failure in a more general sense, and how it plays into identity and our expectations of narrative. Quent’s story has all the trappings and beats of a Hero’s Journey, but GRRM leeched out all the triumph and excitement and growth and replaced them with horror and humiliation and ultimately death. He’s up to similar tricks in the rest of the story: Jon and Dany’s profiles-in-leadership make them miserable and end in them abandoning their posts; the fandom desire to see Theon and Cersei punished is thrown back in our collective face; Tyrion refuses to make us laugh. 


I confess I don’t read as many fanfics as I’d like, because I don’t usually have much free time for reading and I alternate them with published books, but during the last year I’ve read some awesome stories that I’ve enjoyed even more than some tradicional books. Some of them are very popular and some not so, but I would give my right hand to write half as well their authors do.

So, these are some of my favourite Sansan fics so far (as usually, I’m sorry that my english doesn’t allow me to praise better their virtues). 

Close to canon, realistic and poetic at the same time, one of the best fanfics out there. It’s a Blackwater AU whose prose is above the average, though I know I’m not saying anything new, Sansa’s chapters are wonderful, but Sandor’s ones, from ch. 27, are perfect. I’ve re read it plenty of times and some of its images and scenes are still struck in my mind. It’s a shame the author doesn’t update since ages.

My new favourite. Modern Sansan set in the mafia world, it has little to do with Westeros but who cares! If you give me a great story, an interesting plot and a great dosis of our favourite characters, I buy it! The story is intriguing and has a very build up plot. The interesting original characters, the details the author puts in every chapter, the background of each character, the stories inside the story (so Paul Auster!) of course, the love story between a moss boss and a sweet (but strong) little bird makes G&M a very special work. I left apart one of my favourites series (Prince of Nothing) to read it in one sitting as if it were a novel, and didn’t regret it for a moment. I wrote a longer post here.

You show me, and I see. You reflect it back to me, and I see now in a way I couldn’t before.“

Redcandle has plenty of wonderful fics (I love her Gendry/Arya and Jaime/Brienne fics too), but these two are my favourite. With a very insightful knowledge of the characters she is writing about, she dares to go further than anyone. Songbird is the most realistic AU Blackwater I’ve ever read; austere, hard and certainly not romantic. I never get tired to read it. The same could be said for Proscript; what happens in it could be hard to read but it could perfectly be the next Alayne chapter of TWoW. Her fics are so true to canon that they look like a lost chaper GRRM left apart and didn’t published; any of them could perfectly be part of one of the Asoiaf books (published or to come)

A work of art. You can not define this beautiful and precious work any differently. A unique and outstanding work in the fandom that her author gives us all for our enjoyment. But not only the fan art is really wonderful, the text is delicious: sexy, sexual, intense … a delight to read and a Sansan wet dream come true. Besides, the writer has a very profound understanding of the psyche of the characters, specially Sansa’s, and so, throught their sexual encounters, she leads us into her thoughts and we learn more about Sansa’s thoughts and the dark corners of Sandor and The Hound. If you don’t like porn stories, don’t read it read it anyway or you’ll be missing some of the better hours of your week, because it is a must.

Kindred is also a Blackwater AU and in a way it reminds me to Into the Wood but keeping its own style and personality. What I really like about this story is how the author keeps Sansa and Sandor always IC. Her descriptions are precious and they make you feel inside the story with them. The text is perfect; not even need to spare it a single word or sentence. And it has magic. Maybe the plot so far isn’t too original, but the realism of the story mixed with a veil of fairytale that surrounds it thrills me and makes me shiver in equal measure. There isn’t a chapter without a sentence of the protagonists, a description or a single line that doesn’t get me goosebumps. There is always something that leave me breathless in her writing and I think this is very difficult to achieve. 

The story of Sansa Stark told as the chronicles of Westeros would tell it a thousand years after her death. I don’t agree with all the assumptions on which the story departs, but I admit that the tone in which it’s told, original and different, has conquered me. And If you don’t shed a tear in the end is because you’re made of stone.

I’d never seen this fic recommended before but I do like it a lot. Sandor doesn’t leave Kingslanding after the BW and Sansa stays as a hostage for Joffrey to punished her as his wish. But at least she has Sandor to give her come comfort among all her suffering. I like a lot the style in which is written, melancholic and kind of sad. Doesn’t really have a happy ending but it leaves an open window through which we can dream about them having some hope in the future.

A short Sansan tale through Gregor’s eyes. Strange, different and unique. I haven’t read something similar in the fandom. Don’t miss it.

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Maybe it isn’t her most popular fic but as I have a soft spot for one shots, this has been one of my favorite for long and I guess it’s one of the first fics I ever read. I don’t know what cheers me up the most: the fact that Winterfell is full of life again, seeing Sansa happy, drinking and dancing or that lovely and happy ending. It’s short, but it doesn’t need any other word to be perfect, like a small jewl. I have read it more than 12 times and I’ve enjoyed every one of them as if it was the first.

What I like about Littlefeather it’s that she knows very well the characters and the books she is writting about. She has a lot of great stories (i’d sell my soul to the devil to have so many great ideas to write). Maybe Meet the Starks isn’t her most popular and I don’t really know why I like it above others; it isn’t very true to canon and a priori it shouldn’t be of my liking but, as I said before, if you write a good story I buy it. I guess I cann’t help to love seeing all the Starks together again (even if it’s in a fic) and some scenes between Ned, Cat and their new son in law made me laugh out loud, and that, ladies, is unpayable!

There are a lot of other stories I have enjoyed / I’m enjoying a lot (A chance encounter, Marching song, All the things she never said, Winds of change, Beggar’s banquet…), though I’ll leave them for a second post ;) Please, feel free to tell me some recommendations too, I’d love to read them!

GoT Re-Watch: Fine-Toothed Comb Edition

New year new season, seems appropriate. Thanks to all the people helping me out with counting errors in my post, some of which I have not yet fixed. I tend to count in troll: one, two, three, four, many, lots. Without further ado -

Episode 2.01 - The North Remembers

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anonymous asked:

What do you think of Ser Davos? He seems like an easily forgotten character because his whole story is about Stannis; however from time to time I'm reminded he such a wonderful character in his own right. Such as his reasoning for delivering food to the garrison at Storms End; not because he believed in their cause, not for gold, but because people would starve if he didn't. That simple reason speaks volumes about him.

Anon, you’re preaching to the choir here. Davos is a huge favorite of mine.

He seems like an easily forgotten character because his whole story is about Stannis. 

Almost all the POVs are used to give insight into something/someone bigger than them at some point. Examples include- but aren’t limited to- Sansa in ACoK/ASoS being used to see King’s Landing and the turmoil in the Red Keep with inside perspective on the Tyrells and others, Tyrion ACoK/ASoS for the same except with an inside perspective on the Small Council and the Lannisters, Jon’s whole storyline pretty much to see what’s going on at the Wall, Arya is used in ACoK/ASoS to see the sufferings and lives of the smallfolk and the BWB, Sansa in late ASoS and AFFC is used to see Littlefinger and his scheming, Theon in used to give us insight into Winterfell/the Boltons, Barristan with Meereen/Dany, Catelyn into Robb’s campaign and even Renly’s, Brienne and Jaime illustrate the war torn countryside especially after Arya leaves Westeros, Cersei’s POV started so that we could see into KL after everyone else left, and so on.

Point is, even when the character is super important (like Jon, Arya, Tyrion, and so on) they can still be used to give insight into something not themselves. That doesn’t take away from their characterization and importance (though it does say something when you have a character who’s completely detached and still being featured a lot.)

Is Davos all about Stannis? Right now we’re seeing the possibility of him going to Skagos and meeting up with Rickon. We also get an inside look at the Manderlys and what the Northern lords are really thinking through him in ADWD.

however from time to time I’m reminded he such a wonderful character in his own right

Amen, anon! Davos is fantastic in so many ways. He embodies unquestionable and never ending loyalty, is perceptive and grateful, tries to do the right thing, is honest and gives good advice, he’s a fantastic character! He’s decent, too, which is unusual as we know in alive Westerosi characters. 

My favorite aspect about Davos, though, has to be that he comes from nothing. Think of every POV character in the series. Almost all of them have one unifying aspect- they come from a highborn house. Within major POV characters (i.e. characters who have at least double digit numbers of POV chapters,) Davos is the only one who is not from a well respected, high status house. Even with the Night’s Watch, which is supposed to be an army of thieves and crooks, our main POVs are Jon (raised as a Stark and of highborn blood) and Sam of House Tarly. We get insight on the sufferings of the smallfolk in Westeros chiefly through Arya (a princess) and Brienne (a highborn lady.)

These characters don’t really understand what it’s like to not have a name and a status to make you worth something. Even those captured and put through hell (Sansa and Theon come to mind) are still considered useful alive because of their name/house. Contrast this with the absolutely tragic nonchalance the villagers’ lives at God’s Eye (from Arya ACoK) and Mycah’s life get. Westerosi society has an extremely rigid social hierarchy. Keep in mind Dany gets a taste (a taste because she always had her family name, which afforded her some importance) pre-AGoT when on the run with Viserys. Arya gets a complete assimilation into that lifestyle (so much so that even in ACoK she thinks that if she were to reveal herself to Tywin, she’d just be beaten and not believed.) But even Arya was valuable- like for Sandor and even Yoren stuck his neck out for her because of her family name.

But Davos had none of that. Ever. He’s always been a character that was born into nothing and achieved so much. He’s a Hand of the King, for crying out loud. Granted, Stannis hasn’t taken the Iron Throne, but he is still the last of the War of Five Kings standing.

He got attention by saving besieged people from starvation. He rose up higher through honesty and intelligence. 

And you know what? He has some of the most chillingly good lines. I’m talking about the ones that make you cheer.

What’s the worth of one bastard boy versus an entire kingdom? “Everything.”

You’re going to spout nonsense to him? “Jared of House Frey, I name you a liar.”

Also, can we just take a second to remember that GRRM named Stannis Baratheon just in an interview because he went to the Wall to help. That Samwell Tarly calls Stannis the “king who still cared.” And why did Stannis drag his men to the Wall, why did he come?

“Lord Seaworth is a man of humble birth, but he reminded me of my duty, when all I could think of was my rights. I had the cart before the horse, Davos said. I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne." Jon, ADWD

He got through to Stannis about temporarily overlooking his rights, someone who is both stubborn and has been burned in terms of rights before, and told what is one of the biggest truths that highborns and rulers miss out on in the series: save the kingdom to win the throne, not the other way around.

Davos is fantastic. He’s a great character with compelling lines, basic human decency, intelligence, and origin story. He’s rags to riches, but doesn’t let it get to his head. He laughs about his own humble birth, his kids have to remind him to think of himself as a knight and not a smuggler. More than that, he thinks to himself about how strange it is the a “lowborn smuggler” is in his position. And don’t even get me started on how hilarious and perfect it is that Davos didn’t even try to pretend or deny his origins, but oh no- Davos chooses an onion as his sigil. 

That, to me, is enough reason to fall in love right there.

But despite the acknowledgment of the strangeness of his rise to power and self-deprecation, Davos truly does rise to the occasion. He uses his position to say things that matter, to truly be loyal and do what he believes is right, and to provide security for his family.

I’m just saying, anon, I’m with you. Davos Seaworth is freaking awesome.