this is part two in the series that @jen–ne–sais–quoi proably didn’t realize was going to be so long.
okay, i’m going to try to make this all one era, we’ll see. when we last left off, the summer league was no more and panic! at the disco was now in the picture, just as trevor howell? (am i making up his last name?) (no, google says it was howell too, cool) was no more and brendon urie was now in the picture. this isn’t a history of panic! so even though we must talk about the history of panic!, we’ll be focusing on ryan ross throughout.
trevor leaves the summer league. tragic. we loved trevor, we’re all crying. (we don’t know anything about trevor) the band is down a guitar player. yes, a guitar player and not a singer. at this point, it is important to know that Ryan Ross wrote all the lyrics, played the guitar, and! sang for the summer league. and he will continue to sing a little bit longer.
it is necessary now to pull away from ryan so as to properly introduce brendon urie. he was a very important person in ryan’s life, so i think he deserves this.
brendon boyd urie had not known ryan ross or spencer smith because instead of going to the catholic school that ryan and spencer went to, he went to the public school in summerlin, palo verde high school. luckily, brent wilson went to palo verde and had a guitar class with one brendon urie. brent wilson could see brendon’s talent with the guitar so he told him that his band was looking for a new guitarist, and would he like to audition. it’s unclear if the band was still the summer league at this point or if it had been changed to panic! at the disco because between no one documenting the name change and all the different situations in fanfiction, i honestly just don’t know.
i also can’t really tell you anything about his audition because it’s done so often in fanfiction that i don’t know if anyone really knows the truth or if it’s something that is so common in fanfiction that it becomes part of cannon. my fuzzy memory tells me that the audition was in spencer’s basement, they were immediately impressed and had brendon join the band, and that ryan was a little bit quiet. these things may be true (they’re probably true) but they may also be pulled from a fanfic. i really could not tell you.
please not that brendon would’ve looked something like this, but probably nerdier because he was dressed for school pictures:
okay, so i’m pretty sure by now the band is called panic! at the disco, and that’s what i’m gonna call it from now on. so now we have the panic! lineup, just still a little jumbled because remember that ryan is our singer. this next part is a bit like a myth. i’m not sure if it’s 100% true, i’m not sure how i learned it, and i’m not sure where the information ever came from. it’s agreed on as canon though, and it’s important. one day our lead singer ryan ross is sick. instead, brendon urie is singing today. brendon sings and ryan gets angry that brendon didn’t tell him he could sing like that. brendon tells ryan “i didn’t know i could sing like that” ryan decides that brendon should be the singer because ryan writes confident words, but does not have the confident voice to back them up. brendon has the confident voice, so ryan thinks he should sing. we now have the panic! we see in the fever era.
it should be said that fall out boy is in existence and that Take This To Your Grave was already out and ryan ross may or may not be obsessed with pete wentz (he was totally obsessed with pete wentz, more on that later)
i feel like it’s important to take a second and explain the importance of livejournal to those who were young when it was big (i was too young for much of ryan ross’ livejournal days, unfortunately) livejournal was pretty big in bandom and the band members used it too. most importantly, ryan, brendon, and pete used it. they would interact with fans and other people and ryan probably put out way too much personal information. you can find a masterpost of his lj posts here. (they’re only from when he panic! was becoming a thing, but if you search the internet, you can find older stuff too)
livejournal was pretty fundamental for ryan. he wrote lots of poetry and song lyrics, he shared music recs, and most importantly: he posted panic! music. with this music, he also harassed pete wentz about his music. harassed might be a little strong. this is also a bit mythological. ryan posted some demos he and brendon had made on their laptops to his livejournal and sent pete the link. you can find the demo for camisado here and the one for nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks here. as you can see, they’re quite different from the album versions. pete wentz saw the talent in these rough demos and decided to drive from la to vegas and sit in on a rehearsal. panic! had never played live before and they didn’t have all the equipment to play their songs live (remember, they were all still pretty young. ryan was the only 18 year old) so they played them acoustic for him and he liked them enough to sign them to decaydance.
this picture is a while after this situation, but ryan’s appropriately greasy, so it will work for our purposes:
okay, let’s focus in a little more on ryan and what he was doing right now. ryan was going to UNLV. he had a full ride scholarship (because he’s a genius and we all know that) and was in the creative writing program. his dad had also gone to UNLV, so he may have gone there per his dad’s wishes or maybe to stay close to home, or maybe even just because that’s where he had the best scholarship. i’ve never seen anything about him living in the dorms, so i would assume that he lived at home with his dad. you can see in his songs, and he’s commented on it before, but his dad was at least emotionally and mentally abusive. he’s never mentioned anything about physical abuse, so even though that is super common in fanfiction, i can’t say it’s 100% true. also, ryan’s dad was sick a lot from the alcoholism, and even though he was abusive, ryan still loved his dad and tried to help him when he could.
it is 2004, panic! at the disco has been signed to decaydance/fueled by ramen. within the next year we will see ryan ross go from a greasy, awkward boy who wrote deep metaphorical lyrics to ….the same boy but now famous. this chapter ends here, and in the next chapter will begin the Fever Era
How much research do you do on American slang, style of talking or just general day to day stuff like food, clothing, nature and landmarks ect I want to start writing fic but I'm afraid it would sound to much like self insertion
The fights I have with American English, anon. STILL. AFTER ALL THIS TIME.
Really though, provided you watch a lot of American TV, and, let’s face it, we all do, I think you’ll be pretty okay. And it’s easy enough to get an American beta reader, if you’re really worried about making too many mistakes.
Other than that, when it comes to the day-to-day stuff: google is your friend. Whenever I mention something by brand name, like food, or drinks, or clothes, I go online to an American store and make sure I’d be able to purchase it there.
As for landmarks, wither pick a small town that wouldn’t have any, or a large enough city with a few famous one. And then go to google maps, check out the street view, and go from there. You really only need a few lines to paint a scene, so it doesn’t matter if you don’t exactly describe how far away things are in relation to other things.
Again though, you can always get a local beta or ask your readers to point out the most awkward errors and go back and fix them.
Which reminds me. Several years ago I was co-writing a story set in America, with an American co-writer, and I had one of my characters turn up to the other one’s motel room in the morning with “a flat white.”
My co-writer: Why is be bringing paint?
Me: It’s coffee.
My co-writer: Is this one of those Australian things that probably doesn’t exist in reality?
Me: It’s a real thing, I swear.
Needless to say one Starbucks brought in flat whites, I spammed the hell out of her with their commercials. Also, it was too late for that particular book. In the end they had cappuccinos that day.
Hey RWBY fandom, I’ve tried doing a reverse Google image search to see if I can find the name of the artist who did these. However it came up blank. I’m still searching but does anyone happen to know who did these? I would LOVE to do them for RTX 2018 (2017 is a bit too close but 2018 would be the dream) but I don’t want to do the execution without having credit for the concept.
Question: I loved the shots of Pangur with the skeleton cat. Where did you get the skeleton? Is it some kind of anatomical artist's model? (If it's something that's readily available, I might get it for someone's birthday present.) Thanks!
picked up this little dude from a Loblaw grocery store a week before Halloween! it’s definitely not anatomical (see: bone ears)
YOU CAN WRITE AND DRAW??? NEVER KNEW YOU COULD WRITE????? YOU'RE SO GOOD???? I feel blest thank you so much!!!
WHO SAID I COULD WRITE–
Tbh tho writing is hard as heck for me bc I’m like rewording sentences or paragraphs like 8 times until it sounds right & then I skim back over it and it’s way too descriptive or there’s too much dialogue rip
I was thinking a lot about how when Chloe gets a miraculous, Sabrina is going to be left alone a lot because of obvious reasons. It kind of sat there in my head about how that kid doesn’t have any friends aside from Chloe and I was picturing her alone and I didn’t like it so I figured we could stick her with the other person in the class who doesn’t have any friends and has a little bit in common with Chloe and I think I kind of ship it now.
I also saw a lot of talk about femslash February on my dash and I don’t really have the commitment to participate all month so here is my contribution.