boxers dogs

tenderfacemeat  asked:

recently read about an english mastiff breeder in nsw who outcrossed their line with a greyhound, to controversy within breed circles. personally, no expert, but i think this is a great idea. do you have suggestions for how to find other breeders doing similar, or how dog lovers can encourage this sort of thing more generally -- especially in breeds with severely bottlenecked genetics like the english mastiff? (qt: came for the berner breed eval, stayed for everything else)

I think it’s a great idea, outcrossing to a breed to acquire a few desired characteristics and then breeding back to the target breed.

Dog breeders are likely to have a fit because the dogs in question are no longer ‘pure’.

Originally posted by avocadosalad2

Nobody cares, really, if a dog’s lines are ‘pure’ back to 100 generations. If somebody wants a purebred dog they just want a dog that looks and acts a certain way. The obsession with ‘purity’ in the dog breeding world is not based on science and frankly a little bit worrying.

Dogs are dogs. We should be breeding for health first, behavior and shape second. ‘Purity’ is such an unimportant and genetically meaningless concept.

There are so many breeds that could be improved by crossing to another breed with the desired trait every 5-10 generations. Here is a fairly famous example of crossing Corgis to Boxers in order to bring the genetic bobtail into boxers before docking was banned in the UK. Here are some of their photos.

Generation one:

Generation 2:

And Generation 5, winning prizes at shows.

There is, as expected, a bit of a huff with some boxer clubs that these bob-tailed boxers are not ‘true’ boxers. But as they continue to be bred to boxers for more and more generations, they really are. The only corgi-specific gene that is still selected for is the bob tail one, and these dogs are otherwise indistinguishable from ‘real’ boxers.

If we could do this targeting desirable health traits in breeds that are lacking them, we could improve the health of multiple breeds. This would require a major shift in current breed clubs, and breeder’s philosophy, and I unfortunately don’t know how to make this happen.

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Even if you’re not in Georgia, sign the petition and make a phone call (or send an email) if you can. Don’t let my sweet baby (along with many others) be unfairly labeled just because of their breed and the state they live in. This woman is ridiculous and we won’t let her get away with this nonsense.

anonymous asked:

Do you have a favorite Working dog breed? Mine is a Rottweiler, and which one would you own?

Hands down the Bernese Mountain Dog.

Originally posted by threeberners

Look @threeberners <3

I’ve made it apparent in the past that I am no fan of hair, but I would make an exception if their health wasn’t so awful. Their life expectancy is only 7-8 years! 😞 

I love, love, love working breeds. Mastiffs, Newfies, Danes, Pyrenees?! But when it comes to ownership, I know my limits. Since my own dog is big and slobbery enough, I would have to go with owning a Boxer. Which is so ironic, because they’ve never been on my list. I always thought they were way too hyper for me. But, they are just happy dogs. And since my dog ended up being half Boxer, and me learning to love the enthusiastic nature of them, a Boxer is a working breed I would choose to own. It does scare me that they can develop heart problems though.

Originally posted by orbo-gifs

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Imagine Loki is staying with you and your dog keeps stealing his boxers out of the laundry basket. He wonders where they are disappearing to, but then he finds them in a pile in your room, as that’s where your dog sleeps. But he thinks it’s you and confronts you. You are about to explain when your dog once again comes running through with another pair in her mouth, looking very proud of herself. 

lillieisabllagrace  asked:

If boxers aren't in line to get evaluated, I'd like to put them there... No hurry. :)

Ah, Boxers. Clowning cancer factories. They’re such an interesting breed and frequent visitors to the vet clinic. They’re also one of the addictive breeds, meaning that despite their flaws there are a lot of people that once they own one, are never without one ever again. You might want to sit down and have a cup of tea.

Disclaimer: These posts are about the breed from a veterinary viewpoint as seen in clinical practice, i.e. the problems we are faced with. It’s not the be-all and end-all of the breed and is not to make a judgement about whether the breed is right for you. If you are asking for an opinion about these animals in a veterinary setting, that is what you will get. It’s not going to be all sunshine and cupcakes, and is not intended as a personal insult against your favorite breed. This is general advice for what is common, often with a scientific consensus but sometimes based on personal experiences, and is not a guarantee of what your dog is going to encounter in their life.

Originally posted by orbo-gifs

So, the number one thing that Boxers as a breed are known for in veterinary medicine, if there one one solitary defining feature that was the reason most veterinary professionals decide against owning a boxer, a breed they would otherwise like, then at the risk of being insensitive, (since you like sparkly gifs) its…

Boxers are prone to cancer like no other breed I know, closely followed by Golden Retrievers. They develop all sorts with great ease, at unfortunately young ages with great regularity.

Mast Cell Tumors are the bane of the boxer breed. These tumors can develop anywhere on the body, including in organs like the spleen, and in any layer of the skin. These tumors are sometimes called the Great Pretenders because they can look like lots of different things. They’re easily mistaken for benign lipomas by feel, and can be misdiagnosed if they’re growing under a lipoma by FNA as it’s easy to miss a small lump with a small needle.

While a low grade MCT has a chance to be cured with surgery of detected early, a high grade one is all kinds of trouble even with modern chemotherapy options. It’s fear of these tumors that cause many vets, including myself, to be highly suspicious of every single lump on a boxer or boxer cross.

Boxers also seem highly prone to other cancers too, lymphoma being high on the list. Individuals with a white belly also get squamous cell carcinomas and cutaneous haemangiomas.

They are one of the very few breeds known to develop malignant histiocytomas, which is especially unfortunate considering that in most dogs a histiocytoma goes away all on its own in a few months, but in Boxers it will potentially kill them.

So while any lump on any dog can be a malignant cancer, Boxer’s have the added ‘fun’ of developing lumps that probably would have been fine on an other dog and look benign but sometimes actually aren’t. Can you understand my paranoia?

Boxers are a brachycephalic breed, meaning they have shortened muzzles and flattened faces. There is significant individual variation within this breed, but more extreme individuals do suffer from Brachycephalic Airway Syndrome (BAS)

Their facial conformation leaves their eyes prone to numerous Eye Conditions, including but not limited to cherry eye, entropion, exposure keratopathy and corneal ulcers. They also get a particularly difficult to treat eye ulcer called ‘indolent ulcers’ which are sometimes just called ‘Boxer dog ulcers’. They also get progressive retinal atrophy which is probably more genetic than anything else.

Speaking of diseases that are names after the breed (rarely a good sign), this breed also gets an unusual gastrointestinal disease called Histiocytic Ulcerative Collitis, which is also called Boxer Dog Collitis. For brevity’s sake, think of it a bit like a type of IBD of Chron’s disease.

And while we’re still on the topic of diseases named after this breed, Boxer Cardiomyopathy, which is really a arrhythmogenic right ventricular cardiomyopathy that’s primarily identified in boxers, also afflicts this breed. It’s not their only heart condition though, Dilated cardiomyopathy, atrial-septal defect, subaortic stenosis and sick sinus syndrome also occur.

This is turning into a long post, isn’t it. Do you want a break? How about another gif?

Originally posted by skullvis

Okay, let’s talk some more about Boxers from a veterinary standpoint.

Boxers are prone to a couple of neurological disorders, Wobbler Syndrome is more common in larger males but degenerative myelopathy can occur in any boxer, is they live long enough to get it.

Younger boxers may develop demodex, if they’re juvenile when they do so it’s likely due to a funky immune system, which might explain a lot about this breed. Boxers that are predominantly white may also be deaf in one of both ears. It’s claimed that white boxers are more prone to cancer too, and for skin cancers this is true, but all boxers are prone to cancer. Hence the sparkly gif.

Possibly related to an interesting immune system, the breed is prone to allergies and atopy. This is a day to day annoyance on top of he life threatening/shortening conditions this breed is likely to develop.

Speaking of life threatening, the boxer dog is certainly deep chested enough to develop Gastric Dilatation Volvulus and need a trip to the emergency clinic.

And possibly the least interesting thing on this list the breed is seen relatively frequently for in the veterinary clinic is hip dysplasia.

Gosh, a long list never looks good, especially when three conditions are named after the breed.

Boxer’s also have a reputation for anaesthetic sensitivity. This is often exaggerated in breed circles, assuming the boxer in question doesn’t have one of the aforementioned heart conditions, but because they are brachephalic they have a higher vagal tone and are more sensitive to the common sedative acepromazine.

This doesn’t mean you can’t use acepromazine in boxers, only that you have to be careful with it. I will often use it at a tenth to a quarter the dose in young, nutty individuals before surgery, but some vets wont use it at all.

Can you see how living with one of these dogs would drive me nuts from a medical paranoia standpoint?