So i think it’s kinda obvious to tell that Star is literally a social butterfly, and that it’s super easy for her to makes friends and participate in social activities….
so how in the world did she and loner,friend-less,isolated, unsocial Tom ever become a couple?
They’re similar, and yet also opposites.
I can make some pretty good assumptions as to why Star might’ve wanted to date Tom due to her rebellious nature.
But what about Star is this important to Tom?
Personally, i think alot of it comes from the fact that Star is such a social and likable person.
Having someone like her in his life was probably a pleasant and refreshing experience for him. He had someone who actually enjoyed his company, and who probably felt like a light compared to the rest of his sad life.
Which only makes it worse for Tom when he feels like he’s the one responsible for losing what was probably the most important and most positive relationship he ever had. And without it, he’s back to being by himself feeling like nobody likes him.
The more i get to know of Star’s past, the more i keep thinking my theory that she and Tom dated in secret might actually be true.
I don’t exactly know when or how long they’ve been dating but-
None of her interdenominational friends have ever mentioned Tom.
Doesn’t look like he ever hung out with her and her friends.
River in “Camping Trip” didn’t know she ever had a boyfriend
The kingdom of Mewni clearly isn’t big on the idea of Monster-Mewman marriage (Tom isn’t a monster, but it doesn’t look like the Butterfly bloodline ever allowed any marriages between Mewmans and any other species )
Honestly i have a hard time believing that if any of star’s friends or family knew about Tom, they would’ve forgot about him.
It’s hard to believe that NOBODY would know about it, since Tom is clearly happy about them being together and you think he would’ve told someone, but then again i don’t know about his relationship with his fellow demons yet…he might not even know Mewni could be against them being together and Star never told him.
And he doesn’t have friends to talk to, and i still think his parents are likely abusive and not the kinda people he can talk to about having a girlfriend….
Until i get some answers here about what their relationship was…their relationship sounds very complicated…
Star was a huge positive joy for Tom, who needed people in his life he could rely on and who cared about him.
Star (and maybe Tom), didn’t tell anyone about their dating life for some reason
Tom was desperate to re-kindle the joy he had from their relationship before, the one he feels responsible for losing.
Star probably only could leave mewni by using either someone else’s scissors, or ponyhead might’ve snuck her out. So Tom probably was at mewni for some reason when they met.
Both were prolly at fault for their breakup.
Star might’ve never been to the Underworld before? Due to her actions in Bmb?
I’m just making head canons based on what i see and what i observe.
It’s nice Marco is currently providing Tom a new positive relationship that can and will definitely help him.
I can only hope it’ll go a lot better then whatever did happen with Star.
I’m relatively open to all kinds of ideas and theories, the’re a lot of fun to talk about and mess around with.
But there are just some i just can’t accept, and i think it’s harder to accept, when they were created on little fact…and seem to only exist to put down. character or ship.
I love tom, but i can respect it if someone just simply doesn’t like him.
He’s flawed, every character is, which is a good thing, he’s going to screw up…nobody is perfect…
Abusive is a strong thing to call somebody, if you’re referring to someone as being abusive you are referring to someone who can cause physical and/ or mental damage to someone…and who doesn’t care about the victim’s feelings and /or well-being.
That’s a pretty hard accusation to place on Tom, especially when he’s still a character with much mystery behind him.
I wouldn’t be nearly as bothered by it, however, if the fandom didn’t treat this as more of a FACT sometimes…and not an headcanon.
You can’t use a headcanon as a reason to hate Tom, or hate any ship he’s apart of.
A headcanon is a theory or idea of something that may happen, or could happen…..it’s nothing that’s confirmed yet.
Unless Tom is proven to be abusive on this show, he’s not.
And it’s a hard claim to stake, because it really doesn’t make a lot of sense considering his character and his relationships.
Star is one of the biggest reasons i don’t buy this idea.
all of her actions towards Tom are not the ones of a victim of abuse. She’s not really afraid of Tom, has no problem saying no to him, and frankly doesn’t really seem to hate him despite everything.
And if Tom DID abuse her, that doesn’t add up and instead raises more questions like:
Why did Star accept Tom’s invite so easily in BMB? And leave so willingly in this and the original storyboard?
Why is Star so forgiving towards Tom?
Why does she still have his number?
Why is she perfectly fine with Tom and Marco hanging out together?
Why would she egg Marco on to hang out with Tom?
Why does her reaction to him inviting her in BMB sound more annoyed then angry and aggressive if he hurt her?
Look, i don’t know for sure about what happened with their relationship, but this is not how an abuse survivor treats their abuser.
Star would want nothing to do with him, wouldn’t let Marco ever hang out with him, wouldn’t willingly go anywhere with him anymore, and would treat him a lot more coldly.
But he’s mean!! He’s hurt star and Marco-!
Here’s the thing about abusers, they don’t realize (Or Care) about how they treat the victim.
This is literally the opposite of Tom’s entire character.
When Tom hurts people, he genuinely looks hurt and ashamed of himself.
When he gets scolded, he looks as if he’s about to cry.
Making others sad and/or upset isn’t something he takes pride in and he has no problem taking the blame when he screws up.
He genuinely apologizes, this is not something an abuser would do.
Tom’s character revolves around him trying to improve upon himself, he goes through the effort to become a better person and tried to fix something he knows is causing so much trouble, You can’t simply pretend these efforts mean nothing when they’re such a big part of his character.
Tom’s flawed, sure, but so are Marco and Star.
And between the three of them, Tom tries the hardest to change for the good of himself and everyone around him.
There’s also the matter that out of everyone on this show, Tom gets this label despite him never harming anyone on this show.
The most damage he’s done to anyone so far is hit Marco with some ping pong balls, that’s not exactly the worst Marco’s encountered compared to what Star has put him through.
Sure he attempted to attack Marco during BMB, but considering that fight never happened….we’ll never know what Tom could’ve ended up doing or if he even would’ve gone through with it.
The guy kinda lost everything that night, his anger was building all night and this was what broke the camel’s back.
It’s probably harder to handle this kinda thing when your emotions link to your powers.
He didn’t even hurt Marco in “Friend-enemies” when he got upset, and the position he chose to “Attack” him with doesn’t look too effective considering it looks more like Tom’s going in for a kiss.
(( No seriously, who attacks people in this kinda position?))
But in “Mr Candle Cares”… he said he was gonna destroy Marco!!!
Yeah, but did he? He and Marco played 58 games, despite the fact that they only needed to play one to decide Marco’s fate and Tom never told him to stop starting these new games.
Honestly is anyone really sure Tom would’ve “Destroyed” Marco?
It looks more to me like he’s all talk in that scene, upset Marco discovered his plan and is trying not to panic about what he’s gonna do about it.
Cause he can’t let Marco leave and tell Star, but now he doesn’t know what to do with him.
When he thought they kissed the worst he did to Marco was spin him and get him wet.
B-But he wanted to do a battle to the death!
Ok, for one, i think that has much more to do with Tom’s violent culture, and less to do with him being abusive. It’s probably how the underworld settles deputes normally, and considering Tom’s species seems to have a harder time being killed off….it’s probably less of a big deal to them.
Tom wasn’t raised in exactly the most comfortable and understanding universes the show has presented.
So Far Tom’s been about as dangerous as a kitten. Star’s done worse damage to other’s then him.
Heck i’m sure the water fountain at the school has harmed more people then Tom at this point.
but one of the last things that needs to be said about this and why this doesn’t work is that if Tom was meant to be this awful, unforgiving, harmful person….why try and make him sympathetic?
The crew actually loves Tom, and if you’ve been around to their blogs it’s very common to find the crew’s draws of Tom…sometimes by himself, but other times with Marco and Star.
It’s clear the crew likes him, and they constantly put him in a position where he’s friends with Marco and Star.
If Tom is meant to be this horrible abusive person? Then why give him sympathy? Why allow him to have anything to do with Marco or Star?
If you’re going to portray an abusive relationship, one of the last things you want to do is make the abuser sympathetic.
Especially on a show like this one that’s meant for kids.
If you wanted to make Tom abusive, why not keep his old evil design? That would fit more with that idea, not this version.
You can interpret the characters how you want but saying that this is canon, and putting people’s ships down because of this claim that has no real good evidence to it….that doesn’t work.
It comes off more like the fandom wanted an excuse to hate Tom, and find ways to put down other’s for their ships.
And considering Jackie gets worse treatment then Tom, despite doing nothing wrong…that shouldn’t be a surprise.
Tom’s a mystery, there’s a lot we still need to know about him. But i don’t believe this abusive version of him was what the show was intending to create.
Untill there is more evidence then “ Tom’s done bad things”, (something that all people do), this is just a headcanon that isn’t very likely to be true at all.
And it really needs to die because it’s not doing any favors for this fandom at all by taking a character whose most relatable to victims of abuse, and labeling him worse then the show’s intentions.
If Tomco ever becomes endgame, i know one thing that’ll be super cool about the show…
I’ll have gotten to see a kid’s show carefully and ( Hopefully ) Impressively show a relationship evolve from enemies, to acquaintances, to friends, to lovers through emotional support and understanding.
It’s not like Star and Marco who became friends immediately, you’d literally get to watch two characters develop together more and more each episode they’re together.
You’d be watching the progression of their relationship from a pinpoint of knowing nothing about each other, to sharing an amazing connection with the other.
And idk, it’d be super cool to look back at BMB one day and think: “If only they knew just how much they were going to matter to the other…”
This is more a question about Tom as opposed to Tomco but like in the book it mentions that the reasons for the marks on Star's cheeks are due to her family's exposure to magic (the idea being magic leaves a mark). I was rewatching "Pizza Thing" yesterday and noticed Pony Head also has love hearts on her neck. Makes sense as Pony Head has been seen to use magic. Tom has used magic on nearly every occasion he has been present in the show and lacks any marks like this though. Any theories?
My best guess perhaps that either those weird lines under his eyes are considered “Marks” ((although we aren’t even sure if they’re part of his skin or if it’s make-up yet)), demon magic is different then mewman and ponyhead magic, or demons themselves don’t get affected by magic enough to leave a mark.
It most likely falls into one of these three.
We don’t know much about demons to really say how they function, so we have to makes guesses on their biologies in comparison to other species.
Unless Tom’s mark is somewhere we can’t see…it would most likely fall to his eye marks.
Those are my best guesses on the subject.
But you never know, maybe demons don’t get marks at all. there were alot of creatures in BMB and only ones similar to Tom had anything resembling marks (Which frankly look more like make-up)
If we ever see Tom’s dad, and he has marks like Tom’s, then perhaps this might have some significance. That demons have their own kind of facial markings.
But for now we’ll just have to guess on if Tom’s able to have magic markings or not.
“First of all, because he has enough experience and he has always assisted in the role of captain. He was the vice captain before, he knows everyone, he’s been in the national team and at the club long enough, so that’s why he’s the logical choice for me.”— Philipp Lahm talked about Bastian Schweinsteiger being the new captain of Germany National Team.
bmb’s writing is such a conflicting experience because dear god sometimes he Nails it so hard
like when tony and riri were talking about the shoot out at the picnic and tony’s immediate assumption about how the whole thing was upsetting to riri was “and you think it should have been you? [that died]” like… projecting much, tony…….. and then riri is like “IT SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ANYBODY!” dude what a way… to illustrate the differences in how tony and riri look at stuff… all the more poignant after that whole exchange where tony was going on about the traumatic “randomness” of losing people to an unexpected shootout and riri is basically like “there’s nothing random about this” like holy shit… tony coming at the whole thing basically “losing someone to a random event, being wrecked with survivor’s guilt” and riri coming at it like “losing someone to injustice, being wrecked with anger and powerlessness” holy god damn fucking………..