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(I promise this is my last post about DEP for a while unless someone brings them up)

Ok, so I forgot to do my proper recap thingy of that second Dillinger show that Paul and I went to this weekend.  This time around it was a headlining gig at Chicago’s Bottom Lounge.  I’ve been talking about it so much that I kinda forgot I never made the post.  Anyways, some suuuuuuper sick footage surfaced on youtube of the highlights from the entire show, so I’m just going to use that as the basis of my recap.  

First off, let me just say that the footage is pretty solid quality, but no video could do justice to the actual experience of being there.  This was DEP’s second show that night and they didn’t even take the stage until almost 1am.  It was worth the wait because this easily became the absolute BEST FUCKING SHOW I’ve ever been to.  Everyone in the venue was acting like this was gonna be their last show ever.  Greg tweeted three times the next day about it and called it one of their top 10 shows of all time.  I knew we were in for one hell of a night as soon as they started with “The Mullet Burden” and Ben jumped onto one of the hanging stack of speakers and kicked off of it doing a 180.  So here it goes:

  • Jeff’s pornstar pose at :11
  • fan does a backflip onstage at 1:11
  • the guy bent over onto the stage that kept passing out and reviving throughout the show at 1:40
  • the first of many stagedives from this guy wearing a lion’s head from a costume at 2:00
  • During the slow part of “Sunshine the Werewolf” about 25 people jumped onstage in anticipation of the “destroyer!” part and stagedove just as it hit at 2:07 into the video.  It was probably the biggest pile up of bodies I’ve ever seen at a show.
  • I remember looking up at everyone and feeling a little scared cuz I knew at least 10 dudes were about to jump on me all at once.  
  • Ben continues playing while getting a piggy back ride from the lion on stage at 2:25
  • the onstage crowd grows to about 40 and Jeff stagedives onto them off of his amp at 2:35 followed by Ben
  • Greg decides to headwalk at 3:23
  • Greg climbs the ceiling of the venue like monkey bars at 3:48
  • 4:12 = greg tosses huge crate into crowd and it gets passed around like a beachball/ben hangs from ceiling and stands on his tour manager’s shoulders
  • Ben gets thrown into the crowd at 4:28
  • 4:48 = Greg rips up Billy’s box fan and launches it into the crowd during the last song

Unseen moments:

  • when Greg was bent over to share the mic with a fan and Ben ran from across the stage and used his back to launch himself into the crowd
  • At one point Ben, Greg, and even Liam all stage dove into the crowd within seconds of eachother.  Liam was right on top of me and I got a few bass slaps in 8)
  • Me almost dying at least 2 dozen times.  

I was absolutely just drenched in gallons of sweat.  I didn’t get home til after 3am and my mom thought it had stormed on us or something because my clothes were soaking wet.  I was like dripping.

It was one of those crazy experiences that you never forget.  The band’s facebook page was absolutely flooded with posts from people from the show all week saying how great it was.  I started getting friend requests from other people at the show.  I even made this facebook page that I had no idea would get that popular or see that much activity.  Even Ben Weinman himself joined it on his personal facebook profile!  

“Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee”

Fast drumming can sound brilliant. Plus if a drummer can play extremely quick notes and rests as well as the standard ones, it allows for greater diversity in the construction and intensity in the dynamics. More light and shade, if you aren’t yet over that expression.

A friend of mine was taught to use a sabre by a Romanian fencing master, amazing old guy. He said the key to speed was to make each movement very small, so the point of the blade has less distance to travel. The further something has to move in space the longer it takes in time. Only amateurs wave their arms around wildly. This old Romanian shuffled along and seemed barely to move his hands, but his sword passed through his opponents’ guard as though they were standing still.

I think even the least-informed listeners realise that drummers don’t get fast without years of practice. So the respect factor for fast hands is always high. We recognise the skills.



Obviously there are lots of clinic types who hold records for speed, but this is an art site so they don’t make it in. Speed is not art; read this to see why (http://www.luzifer.at/world’s-fastest-drummer.htm).

Here are some drummers who know how to move fast and also know WHEN to move fast …


‘I wouldn’t if you didn’t' by The Dillinger Escape Plan. Like all DEP fans I wondered if new guy Billy Rymer could possibly live up to the wealth of artistry shown by his predecessors, but I never doubted he’d have wrists. As indeed he does.  (We’ll get to the other stuff later.)

'Wax simulacra’ by The Mars Volta. Blow up your speed camera.

'Unity’ by George. Such great hands.

'Sulphur’ by Slipknot. Yeah, okay, here’s some Slipknot …