You all: Spider-man Homecoming was so good! But we should have gotten a Miles Morales movie :( but Tom holland is SOOO cute and we FINALLY got a perfect peter Parker movie that really understands him!!!
People that read Ult. Spider-man: Homecoming ripped many crucial elements of Miles Morales’ story off to give to Peter in an attempt to make the story fresh and new. By doing this, Marvel could still have a revised take on a modern day spidey story but also play it safe by casting a white boy in the lead, even if that means glossing over the things that made Peter Parker an interesting character in the first place. But now when Miles’ story is adapted to the big screen, core aspects that are unique to his character and lore won’t feel as iconic, because we just saw them in Peter’s latest movie. But Tom Holland is likable enough to stop people from acknowledging these issues so Marvel can have its cake and eat it too
sometimes a Family is just one dad-joking Suit with a robotic arm, a secretly-soft ageless pilot with a dark past, two tiny traumatised scientists in love, and a self-sacrificing beautiful superheroine with no chill.
Why the “GA” or “Surface” Interpretation Totally Gives you the Red-Herrings
For two days now I’ve been seeing way too many people crying “misdirect” at, well, the entire trailer. Which is frankly silly because I’ve no doubt that he THEATRICAL TRAILER = exactly what the movie is going to be about. That doesn’t mean there aren’t red-herrings ala Jedi Finn from the TFA trailer, the only red-herring I remember. The TFA trailer was pretty straight-forward in introducing the main players (”I’m no one” Rey, “I was raised to do one thing” Finn and “I’ll finish what you started” Kylo) and giving you a feeling of what the movie was going to be, but I digress…
There are a few red-herrings in the trailer for TLJ, they just aren’t what everybody’s up-in-arms about all over the internet. The GA got two big things from the trailer: Kylo is going to kill Leia and Rey is going to join or at the very least be tempted by the dark side. That’s the surface interpretation and it’s absolutely what Lucasfilm intended people who were only going to watch the trailer once and haven’t been obsessing over this shit for two years to take from it, amirite?
Red-Herring # 1: Kylo Is Going to Kill Mommy
They used a combination of Han’s murder in TFA and Carrie’s tragic and untimely passing as a means of suggesting that Kylo kills Leia because we all know Kylo already did it once and Carrie/Leia won’t be in IX. That said, for us spoiler-fiends there are a whole slew of reasons why we already know that he totally isn’t going to kill his mom, most notably the fact that he has his Act I stitches and Leia survives into Act III on Craft. But, that said, on a one-time viewing the trailer totally gives the surface impression that Kylo’s going to pull that trigger (he did kill daddy, right)? That’s the red-herring, the surface interpretation is that Kylo is going to shoot her while the clip is actually about outlining his internal struggle and really ins’t about Leia dying at all. It’s introducing what is going to be one of Kylo’s major plot-points in TLJ: the struggle, once again, to jump of the self-destructive “kill the past” path and take on a new goal.
Red-Herring # 2: The Infamous Hand
This is the big one, no doubt. Why people are so fixated on discounting it is a totally different story, but either way the surface-read is that Rey is going to go off with Kylo and join the dark side. This time around they’re playing with Empire expectations like Vader’s request that he and Luke overthrow the Emperor together, but a second watch of the trailer quickly reveals that’s not what’s happening at all. In TFA Kylo told Rey “You need a teacher, I can show you the ways of the Force”, so this bit of the trailer is not only an extension of that, it’s also a response to Rey’s line of FORESHADOWING (not misdirection) that will be heard earlier in the film, possibly around a campfire to either Luke or Chewie. Twice in this trailer she says she needs help controlling her powers and finding her way. The trailer answers at the end not with Luke’s hand, but with Kylo’s. The red-herring is that Rey is going dark, the truth is either that Kylo is reaching for the Light or the two of them, disenfranchised by their individual mentor’s inability to guide them, are trusting in each other to find a new way together.
Why TF Aren’t People Talking About This?
The biggest thing about this trailer that people really aren’t talking about enough is Luke and Snoke’s big reveal about the core of Rey and Kylo’s relationship: they share something, something ancient and potentially very dangerous that was destined to bring them together in some manner from the get-go. The “raw power” their mentors make reference to is what fascinated Kylo about Rey in TFA and probably what encouraged his offer to help her. This reveal is without a doubt the biggest spoiler in the trailer because it outlines a dynamic that has been debated with tooth and claw for two years. The truth? They’re equals that are both harborers of “raw power” and “strength” that Kylo was either unable to control or embraced in the past, while it just awoke in Rey, and like Kylo said, “you need a teacher”.
So at the end of the day ya’ll who are focusing on the edits and calling misdirect at everything are missing the point: the surface-read of the trailer is just that, a surface-read, the same surface-read that led people to cry “Jedi Finn” just because Finn used a lightsaber. The trailer absolutely establishes the feeling of what the movie is going to be (and what the major character struggles will be), so don’t get caught up in the irrelevant details. Yes, Kylo is going to struggle and continue to be torn apart. Yes, Luke is going to be scared of Rey. Yes, Rey is going to beg the heavens for help because she won’t be able to control that shit. Yes, Finn is going to infiltrate the FO and fight Phasma. YES, Kylo is going to offer his hand to Rey a second time. We just haven’t seen the results of these character struggles yet.
The romantic writing of Dean / Cas (through deleted scenes)
OK, so full disclosure. This started as a simple answer but turned into a whole thing about TPTB and the meaning of deleted scenes and kind of therefore ended up as a Tink’s own small version of a masterpost of the writing of Destiel.
For me, deleted scenes are really important. They made their way to the DVD anyway so are part of canon, lets start with that. But they are deleted for a reason. And before that, they are though up, written, authorised, acted and edited for a reason.
For me the deleted scenes I list below are a big, core part of why I believe Dean and Cas are written romantically and that this is canon. Whether they decide to follow through on it is another matter but I and I know a lot of others agree that they are clearly written romantically and these deleted scenes uphold that. Then they are deleted. Now, some deleted scenes are for time but as you can see here, these scenes often hold key information regarding the overall narrative so clearly they are deleted because of the strong Destiel references. I like to believe this is because they just want to drag it out instead of completely get rid of it from the show, I was worried I’ll be honest before mid season 11 but since then I’m tentatively positive in that I believe the tides are turning and they will textualise Destiel properly and stop deleting these kinds of scenes, especially since season 12 has had so many similar scenes go through to the final cut…
The important deleted scenes for me regarding Destiel are:
1. The deleted scene from 10x23
Cas states clearly that his time on earth has been more important to him than any time in Heaven and Sam and Dean are like family to him.
As always Cas’s scenes that are just too emotionally compromising or hint too deeply at his feelings for Dean (even if Sam is lobbed in there too) are deleted, BUT this in particular has now been addressed in 12x12! So….fingers crossed?!
2. The deleted scene from season 9
THIS IS MY FAVOURITE, IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE WHOLE SHOW, to the whole of the narrative for Cas and Crowley.
This one scene just kills me as it sets up Cas and Crowley’s whole arcs for the whole show and yet it is deleted because, clearly, no homo. As otherwise it is an excellent scene to shed light on two of the core characters of the show and reveals their motivations for their actions, which is what a lot of the fans have struggled with, saying these 2 characters are stale.
In this scene Cas and Crowley discuss how they ‘dislike’ being human and how it’s so not worth it and why would you want to be human anyway (the underlying feeling being that they’re both lying and there is a reason they would like to be) - and then Dean immediately walks in and they share a glance. This is….. expositional screenwriting 101 ?
I mean this is a classic - in fact it reminded me so clearly of the opening scene of a classic romantic supernatural love pairing in the cartoon Beauty and the Beast - the narrator says “for… who could love a Beast?” - and it CUTS TO BELLE’s introduction…
And yet they cut this scene. And it means we don’t get a clear narrative reason why Cas and Crowley do what they do and are who they are, and casual viewers who don’t look into things as deeply as all of us are confused and think they’re stale and uninteresting.
Without this scene only people who really look into the show in huge detail, dorks like me, will know that Cas and Crowley are mirrors of each other and both their arcs up to a point revolve entirely around Dean Humanity Winchester.
Yes. That is what happens when you cut important scenes for a stupid reason, the whole show doesn’t make sense and fans get annoyed. *facepalms*.
There are probably people out there who think Cas still wants to be an Angel pffff because he said “I just wanna be an Angel again“ that one time. Yeah, that one time he thought Dean was dead and there was nothing left for him and he knew being a proper Angel would lessen his emotional pain and give him a purpose to focus on. But then, as soon as he learned Dean was still wandering the Earth he just… hangs around, pining, languishing in the blue bathrobe of despair, hoping to fix him.
And when he finally does get some grace back (FROM CROWLEY - these two are so interlinked Chuck help me what a great narrative if they actually showed it properly) he doesn’t WANT the grace, Crowley doesn’t really want to give Cas grace either but he does it FOR DEAN, and Cas, he allows Crowley to do it FOR DEAN. This then also reminds us how earlier on when Cas steals his first lot of grace Dean asks Cas if he’s cool about being an Angel again Cas deflects and says he needs it. Not wants it, but needs it to fight.
WHY does Castiel not want his grace back? WHY might Castiel have learned to love ‘humanity’? WHY might Castiel want to be human?
This scene is not only is great for it’s own individual reveal - Cas and Crowley jealously pretending they dont care about Dean and perhaps he is the other’s boyfriend, even using the term boyfriend, I mean, guys. Could this be clearer?
But this also just ties in to the whole end of the episode where Dean hands CAS the first blade instead of returning it to Crowley. HE CHOOSES CAS! THIS IS SO IMPORTANT (and is easily overlooked as it was deleted for *reasons*).
This, in an episode where Cas is clearly narratively paralleled as Dean’s Colette, where Dean is scared of losing himself and in a call-back to the season’s start and call-forward to the season’s ending Cas is desperately trying to save him and stop, to keep his humanity….
So, in conclusion…
There is a recurring theme of Destiel (and Drowley) - heavy scenes being cut and this is hurting the narrative of the overall show. It’s not that these relationship are written into the show to begin with that is the problem as they are key to so much of the overall story arcs but the fact that they are written in, used extensively as key points in the story while being kept in the subtext and then when there is an opportunity to make it textual to make it make SENSE to the narrative it is so heavily affecting, these scenes are cut.
*FACEPALMS SO HARD INTO MY KEYBOARD*
Why are they hurting their own show by doing this?!
So yeah, it’d be lovely if they actually showed these scenes that explains WHY things are happening to the casual viewer and Destiel shippers weren’t sometimes made to feel like we are grasping at straws.
Newsflash, it’s like a milkshake bar there are so many straws in this show, everyone involved knows about it and plays on it and CONSISTENTLY WRITES IT INTO THE MAIN NARRATIVE.
Just search Amara on my blog, the whole of season 11 doesn’t make sense without Destiel. If God’s sister herself reveals that Dean represents humanity after the fandom had that meltdown after Metatron’s ‘in love with humanity’ speech, DURING a scene interspersed with Metatron just to remind us ;) If God’s sister has to work through the Dean / Cas longing to reach Dean, uses Cas to manipulate Dean, keeps talking to Dean about love and hiding things, holding back, if Dean calls out to Cas while in Amara’s presence and pretty consistently only cares about Cas during these interactions where Amara is present, even though they themselves are bonded by the mark, one of God’s most powerful creations…. please.
And season 12 basically is one long Cas-focused parallel so they know what they are doing at this point. I want to trust Dabb but we have been burned before so… tentatively fingers crossed on this one now.
It’s just so freaking stupid to build a gorgeous story and through Chuck knows what, I like to hope it’s not homophobia but at these points I feel like what else can it be, they ruin their own narrative and make the story just flounder, not making a whole lot of sense because they are not following through on their own narrative and we are therefore MISSING INFORMATION!
We are tired of waiting for this all to make sense.
So I recommend anyone and everyone pay attention to deleted scenes. They are scenes that show that writers have noticed all the other subtext themselves in order to add to it, then thought about, written, acted out, edited and at the last junction been ripped out, and from these scenes it’s clear why, they all share a focal point - canonising or at least heavily clarifying the subtext between Cas and Dean and/or Crowley and Dean.
Because it is there, we are not insane. If it gets so far as to get acted out and left on the cutting room floor then it’s there and there’s a reason it’s been cut.