You are saying that I am hurting bees due to a single post that describes how industrialised beekeepers treat their bees, not to mention it has more than 20k notes, so I highly doubt you took time to read all the answers I gave. I answered that post and people choose to ignore it.
It is easy to jump into conclusions without even seeing both parts. I said that I support beekeepers that do not commercialize their honey I never said that we don’t need to care about them or that beekeepers aren’t needed, that’s a big difference and that’s why I said people often read between the lines when it comes to vegan posts.
I do not have to eat honey or buy honey to actually do something about bees, and that’s where people fail to realize what we are saying. Of course there are beekeepers now that rely on that to survive and I know many of them want the best for the bees as well; what we are asking is a change of mindset and stop seeing bees as honey producers, because they are more than that. We are asking to think about the issue beyond of consuming honey, to look for a different future where instead of seeing how the hell are we going to fix things, to actually see them in the wild, without problems and without being used, as they once were.
Nobody is saying to stop all beekeepers from what they’re doing now, that’s insane and everyone knows that, is as senseless as saying that everyone will stop eating meat this week. The ask was directed to a vegan blog that gives a vegan answer of why vegans do not consume honey, the answer never said we didn’t care about bees or that we wanted all beekeepers gone. I didn’t say lies in my answer, I said things that do happen and mostly in big commercialized bee farms that are more there for profit than for anything else.
I never said that beekeepers as a whole were bad, I said honey consumption were bad because it is hurting bees, like it or not, the fact that are beekeepers that care doesn’t change the reality that the vast majority and the ones that control the honey supply do not care, and that’s what I was referring too.
Anyways, I know you tried to be an ass, too bad I do not care about senseless stuff like that. You forget you eat fruits, vegetables, legumes and everything that is picked by underpaid people too; and yes maybe you think I’m from the US or any country alike that treats their hard workers like shit; gladly I’m not and I have the blessing of being able to support local farmers each week and I don’t have to support that oppressing system you referred too, and that doesn’t mean I do not care, I care more than you do I bet.
- don’t give a shit about the lives of slaughterhouse workers: how they are usually on shitty contracts, are usually poor and people of color (PoC), how they don’t have basic working rights, and how often times they are undocumented.
- don’t give a shit about how big, rich, Western, white countries go into other countries: usually (again) poor, underprivileged, native areas that are (again) usually inhabited by PoC. This takes land away from the people in that region or country and gives it to a) the livestock and/or b) the crops raised for that livestock.
- don’t give a shit about the fact that animal product consumption is causing deforestation: there are undiscovered plants and other things in these areas that could help with medicine, not to mention that rain forests and other land contributes to 20% or so of the Earth’s oxygen. This effects not only non-human animals, but human animals as well.
- don’t give a shit about the people back in their homes: in rich, white countries like the United States who live next to these factory farms. How their water quality is shit, the air quality is shit, the soil turns to shit and how they have higher rates of ailments that don’t effect people who don’t live near factory farms. This also leads to the areas being more poverty stricken.
- don’t realize that they too (unless they fancy themselves to only live on meat, dairy, milk, honey and other animal products) eat the same exact fruits, vegetables and other plant-based foods that those same farm workers pick for a plant-based diet.
And just to not leave you hanging with the bees situation, we do have options to support, where people take care about bees without selling their honey, which is the point of everything I’ve been trying to say since that question I got. Here are just some examples, feel free to search for more options as well.