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Q: Can we talk baby goats and how that completely blew up?  How everyone loves you holding baby goats in the show?

Travis Fimmel: Oh, did they really?  Oh, that’s funny.  I don’t know if I’ve held a goat.  I held a lamb one time, it was a lamb.  I dunno, I just walked past and I grabbed one.  I needed something to hold because the two girls sitting next to me weren’t very happy with me.  It got comforting that way.

You know, as much as I am all over fic and fanart about bb!Peter and Yondu, I was thinking about how Peter is canonically 34 according to the movie’s timeline, which means he was actually with the Ravagers for more years as an adult than he was as a kid.

And there are all kinds of interesting implications for that! The relationship we get between Peter and Yondu (and Peter and the Ravagers in general) at the beginning of the first movie isn’t that of a young adult out in the world for the first time vs. his old mentor/team; they’ve actually had plenty of time to solidify their relationship as adults and fall into certain patterns of behavior. They have been stealing things together and conning people together (and probably conning each other, at times) for years, not just Peter as the teen thief and Yondu as his teacher.

Looking at it from that perspective, I guess the thing that makes the most sense to me based on Peter’s behavior in the first movie is that he’s been off-and-on falling into and out of the Ravagers’ orbit for years at this point. He’s not really with them, so much as he’s not not with them, but he hasn’t quite had That Awkward Conversation with Yondu until he double-crosses them on Morag. “You and me, taking down marks, side by side like the old days” suggests they haven’t really been doing that together in awhile, but he also hasn’t had an actual falling out with the Ravagers to the point of officially parting ways. He’s just kinda been off doing his own thing as the Famous Outlaw Star-Lord.

It also made me think … obviously there are many plausible interpretations of what Peter’s childhood was like, running the gamut from “utterly miserable and abusive” to “lonely, but not that bad” – but thinking about Peter having been an adult with the Ravagers for the last 18 years or so … that’s a really long time! And it suggests that the crew’s general view of Yondu as “soft” on Peter could have a lot more to do with how Yondu treats him as an adult than anything that happened when he was a kid. Things might’ve been reasonably okay when he was small and cute and indulged by pretty much everybody (well, not the real hard cases, and not to say he wouldn’t still have been lonely and scared a lot of the time - but a lot of the pirates might’ve kind of enjoyed having a kid-brother-slash-mascot around), and it was only after Peter started getting older and was no longer small and cute that the resentment started to develop, when he was roughly on the same level with everyone else in the crew but Yondu never really managed to stop noticeably playing favorites with him.

The tl;dr of it is that we’re seeing them at a particular point in their relationship that doesn’t necessarily represent the whole thing. They might actually have been much friendlier at certain points in the past than they are now; they might have gone through (in fact, it makes sense they probably did go through) periods when they were getting along great, and then other times when Peter was even more estranged and working even harder to hold Yondu and the Ravagers at arm’s length than he is at the start of the movie. 20 years of ups and downs, basically.

Seen in that light, too, Peter’s revelation at the end of the second movie that Yondu was effectively his dad all along actually makes even more sense, if they had a decades-long pattern of sometimes being really close, other times fighting viciously and being very far apart, and for Peter the fighting and the harsher aspects of the way Yondu dealt with him tended to loom much larger than the legitimately good times when they were working smoothly together and getting along. And the “click” moment for him at the end of the movie is to turn it around and see all of the good parts as the dominant aspects of the relationship, rather than the fights and his struggle to assert his own independence apart from the Ravagers and his understandable resentment over being effectively press-ganged on board a space pirate ship as an 8-year-old.