mimeparadox  asked:

Are any of you familiar with the Disney animated series "Gargoyles" which aired back in the nineties? I don't know how y'all feel about animation, but given its similarities to "Sleepy Hollow"--its a series about a race of gargoyles from medieval Scotland who end up in modern-day New York, where they team up with detective Elisa Maza, who is both African American and Hopi--I thought y'all might be interested in checking it out, if you haven't already.

Yes, it was one of my favourite shows as a kid! It definitely should have run for years. Not sure if M and S remember it, but I think we might have mentioned it before…I could be making that up. 


anonymous asked:

I think hate for Catelyn comes from her comment about, Brienne. Something like, "Is there anything worse to be in this world, than an ugly woman?" At the first site of her.

“Is there any creature on earth as unfortunate as an ugly woman?”

It’s not that difficult to understand what Cat was expressing in that moment. In general, Catelyn’s entire POV of Brienne is actually really positive because she sees Brienne as brave, proud, strong, honest…for what she truly is unlike most people around her who judge her because of the way she looks.

The press had begun to open up. “Ser Colen,” Catelyn said to her escort, “who is this man, and why do they mislike him so?”

Ser Colen frowned. “Because he is no man, my lady. That’s Brienne of Tarth, daughter to Lord Selwyn the Evenstar.”

“Daughter?” Catelyn was horrified.

“Brienne the Beauty, they name her … though not to her face, lest they be called upon to defend those words with their bodies.”

She heard King Renly declare the Lady Brienne of Tarth the victor of the great melee at Bitterbridge, last mounted of one hundred sixteen knights. “As champion, you may ask of me any boon that you desire. If it lies in my power, it is yours.”

“Your Grace,” Brienne answered, “I ask the honor of a place among your Rainbow Guard. I would be one of your seven, and pledge my life to yours, to go where you go, ride at your side, and keep you safe from all hurt and harm.”

“Done,” he said. “Rise, and remove your helm.”

She did as he bid her. And when the greathelm was lifted, Catelyn understood Ser Colen’s words.

Beauty, they called her … mocking. The hair beneath the visor was a squirrel’s nest of dirty straw, and her face … Brienne’s eyes were large and very blue, a young girl’s eyes, trusting and guileless, but the rest … her features were broad and coarse, her teeth prominent and crooked, her mouth too wide, her lips so plump they seemed swollen. A thousand freckles speckled her cheeks and brow, and her nose had been broken more than once. Pity filled Catelyn’s heart.

Context is everything. We see the kind of world these women live in. We see the torment Brienne suffers as a lady who doesn’t fit a stereotypical mold, not to mention, she’s also considered hideous by all the men around her.

Catelyn’s expressing sympathy for Brienne because she knows how society devalues women like Brienne and she knows that no matter how brilliant a fighter she is, men will not respect her and mock her because 1. she’s ugly and 2. she’s a better knight than all of them. She’s not saying it out of contempt or disgust for Brienne—she’s saying it because she feels for her.

IMO, people who don’t understand why Catelyn thinks this are purposely missing a very important part of Brienne’s arc.


anonymous asked:

I think they handled the dorne casting well seeing as they added black characters when they could have easily whitewashed

Ah yes, more black characters as guards and/or servants who have no real storylines and are subservient. Fandom literally calls Areo Hotah the camera that rides because he’s a plot device that allows us to see inside Dorne and learn about the Sand Snakes without having the plot revealed through their POVs.

They added one black character; diversity isn’t having a sliver of a pie chart. There was also no indication that Areo Hotah was necessarily white in the first place; people just default all the characters who aren’t explicitly described as being people of colour to white. Adding black people doesn’t equate to representation for all people of colour and tokenism doesn’t equate to representation for people of colour.

Adding a token character isn’t even doing the bare minimum anymore since that’s Hollywood’s go-to when they want to avoid actual diversity. That might be sufficient for you, but it’s by no means good casting or representation.


anonymous asked:

I think you're looking at dany's achievements the wrong way. I think the directors are trying to show that her as a white woman who's led a sheltered life, can in fact adapt and live in harmony with people who are so far from her cultural comfort zone. Also, you're not taking into the fact that she's been traveling through the desert. Now a days, who live in the desert? Brown people. So it's actually accurate that most of the people around dany are brown.

Also, how did you get that there was racial insensitivity in the last scene? The mob of people who were coming to either greet or destroy dany had the choice, and they saw her as a woman great enough to call her “Mother”. She liberated them, and not only is she a woman who did that, but she’s also a white woman. I think they’re trying to show how Dany treats people based on human rights, and not how they look or what rank they are.

I’m going to be very frank.

Yes, dear anon, you’re the only one who is right and the fans of colour who often have to deal with insensitive racist portrayals of themselves in media are wrong. The critics who are doing their jobs that they’re trained to do, and are taking a critical look at Dany’s story outside the context of her benevolence are absolutely wrong. None of us have taken any of these plot points into context at all, anon.

Real life is not a rousing song of kumbaya. Real life is complex and the issues in Dany’s storyline are complex. There are situations analogous to in Dany’s storyline that have happened in real life and continue to happen. There are real life people and governments who went into countries as liberators because they thought it was their duty, and ended up destroying those countries even more. European colonisation of the Americas is a great example as is European colonisation of Africa. The US’ foreign policy in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan is another good example; you ask these people if they’re happy about the US coming into their countries without cultural context and “liberating them” and they will walk away from you. The US has backed actual regimes that promised change, and ended up committing heinous crimes on its people. Liberators can also be oppressors. You might lack the context for issues like this, but you have google at your disposal. You can look stuff up and learn.

There are already thousands of examples of white saviour trope and hundreds of articles examining the pervasive view of white saviourism in western media. You can google all this, or read through the intelligent responses that people have painstakingly written to help others understand what’s wrong with that scene beyond how you personally feel about Dany. That scene reads as oppression for a lot of people and just because you feel that it’s an uplifting story, doesn’t mean everyone else has to feel that way. I absolutely love Dany as a character. But I’m also from a country that was colonised. I’m from a country where missionaries have gone to (and still go to) thinking that they were bringing the word of their god to people, but ended up bringing their imperialism and colonisation and bigotry with them.

I should go and ask all the POC around me why they live in the Northeast instead of out in the Nevada desert. Brown people live everywhere. Cold climates, hot climates, temperate climates. Essos is a diverse continent with varying climates as cited in the wiki entry: People who live in the desert do not spend 90% of their time in the sun because you know, houses exist. And lest you forget, Dany also lives in desert climates and has lived there for a good deal of her life.


whiteboywhisperer  asked:

Do you think the events of ADWD are supposed to invalidate the idea of Daenerys as a white savior? Personally, I never saw her as one until watching the show because I think a) her wanting to end slavery is a justified (if naive) hope and b) HBO seems more interested in straightforwardly presenting her story as "timid girl becomes powerful ruler through hotness, badassery, and dragons" instead of the more complex and somewhat morally dubious version from the books.

GRRM used to be very vocal with his displeasure about the Iraq war in particular so a lot of fans theorized that the Meereen situation was commentary on that. Adam Pasick at Vulture/NyMag interviewed Martin in 2011, and asked him “do you think about these parallels — colonialism, the “white man’s burden” — when you’re writing?”

Martin replied: “I’ve said many times I don’t like thinly disguised allegory, but certain scenes do resonate over time. Other people have made the argument, which is more more contemporary, that it might have resonances with our current misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. I’m aware of the parallels, but I’m not trying to slap a coat of paint on the Iraq War and call it fantasy.”

When we discussed this on FPC (If it isn’t on one of the older podcasts we may have edited it out) we also talked about how these kinds of stories are received depending on if you are from a culture that does a lot of colonizing or a culture that has experienced a lot of colonization. I feel like from a white American perspective, a story critiquing the “white savior” trope is often received as edifying, insightful, self-aware critique. When you’re a person from a culture that has been repeatedly colonized, though, the reaction can fall more along the lines of, “not this overtrodden, colonizing, crap all over again just so you can go on a journey of self discovery because you didn’t do it before.”

I think that goes back to what we have said on the podcast repeatedly, which is that you can’t use ____ to teach a very important lesson about ____ oppression. If you want to critique ____, do it from the perspective of the people who have to put up with it, not the confused and “guilty” people who are perpetrating and benefitting from it.


flauschy  asked:

Could you post your hatewatch oath? I loved it!

Sure! Credit goes to M for this glorious declaration. 

Fat Pink Cast’s Game of Thrones Hatewatch Oath

Night gathers, and now my hate watch begins.

It shall not end until this show’s death. Which might be soon if it doesn’t get better.

I shall make no wife, no lands, or children watch this crappy ass show with me unless they really want to.

I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my tumblr posts.

I am the bored in the darkness. I am the watcher on the HBOgo.

I am the fire that burns against cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of fans who have to deal with gross rape apologists

I pledge my life and honor to the Hate Watch, for this night and all the nights to come.”


anonymous asked:

So I'm watching the marathon on HBO2 (& I haven't read the books). I have to say that watching it this way makes some things jump out. Like Catelyn brought about a whole lot of problems. She favored Rob over all her other children. She arrested Tyrion, which led to all sorts of problems. She made the deal with Frey, without consulting Rob. She lets Jamie go, leading to more deaths. She is a Fatal Woman. She was arrogant, stubborn & refused to listen to reason. I'm not sure why y'all like her.

Are you lost?

- S

anonymous asked:

I hate that Loras and Brienne were not able to confront each other about Renly's death. All that time they spent on the rape scenes and they could have done that instead. It would have taken 15 secs or so. It could have happened at the wedding or after it. Forever pissed off

That would have been a great scene, and would have given Loras more depth…but you know, apparently, gay characters don’t need development beyond existing.


So, just a general note to those of you who feel we hate Tv!Daario because he is white.

We don’t actually hate him.

Making fun of him has always been a running gag in fandom. GRRM practically gifts wrap it for us with the blue hair, golden tooth, and naked lady daggers. Tv!Daario is so ridiculously the opposite of that—we honestly couldn’t resist latching on to his shortcomings! So, I apologize for running a marathon on a joke that probably should’ve been a 50 yard dash.

He’s in the next episode of the show so—I’m not promising the jokes won’t come up again.

Now, as far as hating Daario because he is white?

Tv!Daario being white is not the issue. Daario’s casting call asking for actors of color and them casting a white actor on a show where 99.9% of the principal cast is white? THAT is the issue. THAT and the continued pattern of characters of color that exist in the books somehow failing to make it on screen. I’m sorry that we buried our bitterness under so much sarcasm. Honestly, we probably should’ve been more clear.

We are ALWAYS going to advocate for diversity on this show. ALWAYS. There is no way with THREE women of color running this blog/podcast that you could possibly have it any other way. We don’t have the privilege of turning on the TV or opening a book to find a vast array of characters that represent our race. If we’re lucky enough to even find ONE we hold on to them for dear life! Between the three of us, we’ve spent HOURS justifying the mere existence of these characters because everywhere we turn somebody is out there telling us that we’re WRONG. That it’s “not that serious” and they don’t think it’s a “big deal.” That out of a gazillion white characters out there, the ones of color we love so much have no place in their world.

The Martells? Wow, I mean ONE kingdom out of SEVEN and I still can’t have a piece of that pie. We have written essays, pulled out charts, provided textual evidence, and googled pictures for reference. It’s NEVER enough. People always want more PROOF. They can always provide a “logical” explanation for why people who have MY skin color couldn’t have possibly “existed” in the world “back then”—with dragons and zombies and shadow babies.

It’s painful. It’s really, really, REALLY painful.

Representation matters! Yay diversity! For further insightful, hopefully less heartbreaking, and more funny comments on race and the representation of race in the show/books look forward to the next episode of Fat Pink Cast! Woohoo!


anonymous asked:

I'm so dispirited. My biggest fear is that as women give up on the show, exhausted by the experience of watching so much sexual violence, D & D & co. won't see it as a judgement on them as storytellers. Instead, they'll think it just means that "women can't hack it," and it's too bad for us, but it wasn't a "girl show" anyway so why are we complaining? :(

I understand. :-/

Unfortunately, they’re not giving us much to work with. Many of the lead characters are women, and GRRM initially wrote them to subvert some of those incredibly sexist fantasy tropes, but the writers didn’t seem to understand that at all before they decided they wanted to adapt the series. We need rich characters, not ones who are shells of their former selves.

They alienate almost half their viewing audience (who are women) with sexual violence and sexism that isn’t condemned or acknowledged in the narrative…then claim that women don’t watch. Well, we are watching, but it’s like they’re purposely trying to repel us so they can be as terrible as they want without anyone calling them out. When people are made to watch people like them be dehumanised week after week as “titillation,” it becomes quite tiring and depressing.

I just wonder what’s going to happen when the number of female characters outnumber the male characters (and the male characters who are less aggressively sexist are the only ones left); how are they going to write them?


anonymous asked:

When you tune into GoT, do you think you're about to watch Little Women? The show is about sex & violence, that's what it is. It's a fantasy, but say it was the Middle Ages. Women where used & abused back then, they had no power. They were victims of arranged marriages, bartered for land & animals, raped by invading armies, etc. It's not like the producers of GoT invented this stuff. The show reflects history. It's not supposed to be a revisionist manifesto. If you don't like it, don't watch.

Well, I thought I was about to watch a well written adaption of a well written book series.  You seem very convinced the show is about “sex & violence, that’s what it is.”

I’m not sure where you’re coming from, but in my world, women are “abused & used” now, today.  Fans who are upset about the way the show depicts rape don’t want a “revisionist manifesto”–we are acutely aware of how women historically and continually experience violence.   We want the show to be just as aware and handle it with insight.

But yeah, send us an anonymous message strawmanning that we want to see some idyllic fantasy when the women critiquing the rape on Game of Thrones are acutely aware of just how fucked up the world is.   At least Louisa May Alcott was able to write more than just tropes.


P.S. “If you don’t like it, don’t watch”–you understand how big of a weenie you sound like when you say that, right?

anonymous asked:

Sleepy Hollow is an awful show, as are most programs on Network TV. Gotham has a lot of potential and Hannibal was good, but sleepy is just another cheesy piece of shit, network swill.


Who asked you tho’? Who you is tho’? Why you here tho’? Who leaves an 8-year-old unsupervised at the computer tho’?


I think they’re trying to say that Gotham has “potential” the same way Katrina “is a witch of exceptional ability.”


anonymous asked:

I love you guys, but I feel like you're being disrespectful to your followers outside of the us :( if you really think the us view of race etc is the only one that's valid then I'm a bit disappointed ://

You’re reading books written by a white American man, a series adapted by two white American men, produced by a predominantly white American company, cast by a white British woman etc. The material you’re viewing is incredibly Eurocentric and some of it is pretty damn racist for that very reason.

The three of us are poc and immigrants to the US or first generation and we’ve mentioned this before. We all hail from predominantly poc countries where race isn’t like it is in the US (although white supremacy still exists). I didn’t know what anti-blackness was until I moved to a predominantly white country as a kid and experienced racism, so please don’t disrespect my experience. I’m not sure how anything I’ve written or anything that we’ve said in various podcasts regarding race gives you the impression that any of us thinks “the us view of race is the only one that’s valid.”

And I’m really going to need people who live in predominantly white European countries to stop pretending as though similar racial binaries don’t exist because ethnicity is taken into account and ethnic discrimination exists.The previous anon who kept going on and on without actually reading our posts was from Italy.


Bananas thrown at first black minister Cecile Kyenge

Italy’s Cecile Kyenge calls for action on rising racism


Whites only: one in four nightclubs racist

Dani Alves eats banana thrown at him during soccer match


Racist violence grows amidst financial crisis.

Meanwhile, the US Embassy in Greece has warned US citizens travelling to Greece to be wary of “a rise in unprovoked harassment and violent attacks against persons who, because of their complexion, are perceived as foreign migrants.”

US citizens most at risk are those of African, Asian, Hispanic or Middle Eastern descent in Athens and other major cities,” the statement on the embassy’s website, first posted last November, reads.

(please note who the embassy warned about traveling abroad)


France outrage as ‘racist’ French police black-up, eat bananas and scratch themselves like monkeys at party

The concept of race, racism, and anti-blackness exists in these countries and people of colour are still treated as less than. I shouldn’t have to google the evidence.

Talking about how people of colour should be represented on an overwhelmingly white show =/= erasing specific ethnicities of white people. At the end of the day, Southern Europeans aren’t being erased from this show considering that they were actually cast in several roles as royalty. At the end of the day, dark-skinned people of colour are still portraying slaves and servants on this show.


anonymous asked:

"Robb broke his oath to the Freys and they kept going on and on about how Cat drove him in to being a Grade A loser." I'm confused. I thought she went there on her own and made the deal for him to marry one of the daughters without consulting him. Afterwards, he agreed because he basically had no choice, right? So he didn't come up with the deal and wouldn't have done it if she'd left him any choice. Would he? I think she was to blame for a lot of things. She was just a plot device.

I know D&D have been SUPER reckless with their writing of Cat but let’s not get it twisted.

Cat acted as an ambassador on Robb’s behalf to Wader Frey. They needed to pass through the Twins but they had to get Walder’s approval to do so. The terms of Walder’s cooperation relied on Robb marrying one of Walder’s daughters.

I distinctly remember Robb saying something along the lines of “Do I have a choice?” and Cat responding, “Not if you want to win this war.” Meaning…the war had already dictated Robb’s response. Strategically speaking, Robb HAD to accept those terms—-Robb knew it, Cat knew it, Walder Frey sure as fuck knew it—-that’s why he named those terms. Half of Robb’s reluctance was because Walder Frey had notoriously ugly daughters…

I mean…

I’m not gonna say that Cat is TOTALLY blameless for not loving a motherless child in everything that went down but in THIS particular case Robb put his penis before common sense and lost the North and his life with it. 

I will never, EVER, understand what this fandom has against Cat. There is NOTHING anyone could say to me that will make even a quarter of the blame placed on her make a drop of sense.

I can tell you that I’m not here for it, though. I am 100% not here for Cat hate.


anonymous asked:

What's your thoughts on the producers apparently looking for a black actor to play Areo Hotah?

Not so many thoughts as questions:

- Are they also going to give him a monologue explaining why he is black?
- Are they gonna whitewash the Martells and give them a black butler?
- Is he going to be hypersexualized in some awkward way?


-Is he going to have a backstory where he declares himself a former (a) slave (b) savage or © sex god?

- Will he speak the words (a) honor (b) my village or © yes master?

- Will he be obsessed with (a) white women (b) gold © white women?


IDK, I’m just here for the snark.


anonymous asked:

God dam monosexuals exoticising the one bi guy we get on tv, really the one bi guy and you have to do that. Im just sad that they used that to make him so sexualised

Every time the Martells appear on screen I can feel myself brace for high levels of fuckery.

It wasn’t supposed to be this way!


anonymous asked:

Since ASOIAF is not your story you can't demand that GRRM does what you want. Write your own fantasy novel if you want a story with poc.

1. M addressed this, His own work isn’t any more immune to critique than D&D’s stuff, especially when it directly impacts D&D’s stuff.  As I noted in my comment to him, I can’t argue with his vision, but I can be disappointed by it.

2. Since your imagination isn’t my imagination, you can’t demand that I or anyone else who wants better representation in fantasy should just make our own instead of imagining people like us in stories that we love. Stop expecting fans to accept it when a creator describes characters a certain way and then retcons part of the story that they thought they could relate to the most. 

3. If an author wants to use the cultures and history created by people of colour, then perhaps they should also include those people of colour instead of taking “inspiration" from their cultures and leaving them out of the equation? I don’t know if you realise this, but if someone says that their story is based on Medieval Moorish Spain, chooses to represent the region with art featuring camels that are only found in certain parts of Asia and Africa, and mosques, and Arabic fighting styles, and also orientalises all the people there…then it’s perfectly reasonable for people of colour to reach the conclusion that the people in this part of the story look like them.

4. If an author is going to include people of colour in their stories, perhaps said author shouldn’t only portray them as slaves, savages, and whores or as lesser than their white characters? Is that really such an unreasonable request? That these characters also be treated as people who have a major impact on the story instead of tokens who only exist in supporting roles to white characters?

5. “So far no reader of color has told me I ought to butt out, or that I got the ethnicity wrong. When they do, I’ll listen. As an anthropologist’s daughter, I am intensely conscious of the risk of cultural or ethnic imperialism—a white writer speaking for nonwhite people, co-opting their voice, an act of extreme arrogance. In a totally invented fantasy world, or in a far-future science fiction setting, in the rainbow world we can imagine, this risk is mitigated. That’s the beauty of science fiction and fantasy—freedom of invention.

But with all freedom comes responsibility. Which is something these filmmakers seem not to understand.“- Ursula K. Le Guin, A Whitewashed Earthsea

6. “It is time that we all recognized the real history of this genre, and acknowledged the breadth and diversity of its contributors. It’s time we acknowledged the debt we owe to those who got us here — all of them. It’s time we made note of what ground we’ve trodden upon, and the wrongs we’ve done to those who trod it first. And it’s time we took steps — some symbolic, some substantive — to try and correct those errors. I do not mean a simple removal of the barriers that currently exist within the genre and its fandom, though doing that’s certainly the first step. I mean we must now make an active, conscious effort to establish a literature of the imagination which truly belongs to everyone.” - N.K. Jemisin

7. You want people of colour to make their own? We’ll do a trade off with popular culture, Hollywood, and the Western world. They need to give us back Jesus, Egypt, saris, bindis, yoga, reggae, hip hop, fireworks, mathematics, native headdresses, coffee, our architecture, medicine, agriculture, technology, art, Khan Noonien Singh, Tonto, every single character they’ve whitewashed or brownfaced, redfaced, yellowfaced, blackfaced in film and TV etc. etc. etc. I could go on.

There are entire stories that are created with people of colour in mind. Avatar: the Last Airbender. Earthsea. Anansi Boys. The Hunger Games.

All of those were either whitewashed, or Hollywood attempted to whitewash them. POC are excluded from fantasy stories or whitewashed from their own stories and their own history. So when you say something like, “make your own,“ all I hear at this point is white noise because what it really means to someone like me is that people like you don’t want people of colour to be represented in mainstream culture.