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videogaem  asked:

I have a question about writing PoC in a historical setting! I am writing a story with a Romani protagonist in 1890's London, where non-Romani would likely not refer to her as "Romani," but instead with the g*psy slur. How would you go about this? As a non-Romani, I want to make sure I'm being both historically accurate but also respectful. I've made it clear the word is hurtful to her and other Romani she knows, and that the only characters who use the term are explicitly ignorant/bigoted. Ty!

As long as your narrative makes it explicitly, abundantly clear that it’s a slur, I don’t see a huge problem with it. 

-Mod Tasbeeh

Hi there, my name is Sam and I’m an actual Rroma guy (he/him/his) who runs a horror and fandom-centric fragrance shop on Etsy with roughly 150 fragrances for sale called Cherry-ka’s Trunk (my shop’s tumblr is actualgodofwine).

The rampant antiziganism on Etsy is one of my biggest issues with the site. Lots of stuff (and lbr at least 99% of it is by people who are not Rromani) gets tagged as “gypsy” which is an antiziganist slur. Lots of it employs anti-Rromani stereotypes and almost none of it has any basis in anything that’s actually Rromani.

While I’m on my soapbox, as a Romani-Jewish man in the Marvel and DC fandoms who worships the ground Dick Grayson walks on and is thrilled to see himself in Wanda and Pietro Maximov, I’d love to take this opportunity to point out to Joss Whedon and also fandom in general that Wanda and Pietro are Jewish-Rromani, and Dick Grayson is Rromani so yanno white hipsters can’t have them. They’re ours. :)

Also Hydra is a (fictional here) Nazi organization. If we could maybe stop making and buying Hydra merchandise, that would be great.

So today, I’d like to ask everyone to please be aware of and spread this information, and to support Rromani business owners, Rromani fans, and Rromani people as a whole.

27 May 2016 Edit: New shop blog is @cherrykastrunk

8 April 2017 Edit: Wow this is still getting notes! That’s wonderful!

Just if anyone is curious, I’m a Ruska Roma and either Kalderashi, Bohem, or ??? man, we’re still figuring that quarter out. My grandfather was a rom from Russia, and my grandmother was a romni from Romania.

I just got married to a Romanichal rom on 5 April 2017. <3

At some point(s) in time(s), Link becomes friends with a young woman, Cremia, and her younger sister Romani. If you spend some time alone with Romani, she’ll happily confide to you that her big sister is letting her drink a whole bottle of Chateau Romani, a potent beverage usually reserved for the rite of passage into adulthood. You have to get into a members-only club in a basement and wear a cow mask to drink it, so you know Chateau Romani’s the stuff they usually reserve for adults and their naked painting parties. But Romani is Link’s age, so it’s a mystery as to why she’s being given free rein to knock back the good stuff … until you realize that her sister is intentionally getting her hammered so she won’t feel any pain when the apocalypse hits.

Cremia knows that the world is probably going to end – the Moon’s death mask of a face keeps getting closer and closer to the ground with every passing minute, so it’s a reasonable assumption to make – but little Romani is blissfully ignorant of this, something that can only be explained by how goddamned smashed she is all of the time.

After a while, Romani will ask Link to help her deal with the little problem of aliens abducting their cows. If, like her sister, you decide not to believe this tiny drunkard’s ramblings, the next day you find Cremia sobbing helplessly, as her sister has been abducted herself. Romani does reappear later, but forevermore, she has a thousand-yard stare, speaks in a flat, zombified tone, and twitches uncontrollably every so often in a violent full-body spasm. All you can do is leave her be and hope she can find some peace at the bottom of a milk jug.

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marvelouslymadmm  asked:

I have a Half Roma (father) half Ashkenazi Jewish (Mother) character who's parents met while working together on the Holocaust Museum being opened in DC(90s). I currently have her family being very disapproving of the marriage, and his brothers disliking her family for being snobs, as background tension for his childhood. Are there any resources or feedback on racial tensions and religious tensions I am missing between the two groups? I really want to get this right, as I love the character.

Writing about tensions between Jewish and Rroma in-laws

I’ll be blunt: there are tensions? If there are, I am completely unaware of them. What I usually see is Jewish Tumblr and Twitter users reminding each other to remember that we stick together with Rroma people because of shared bullshit, and speaking out to educate random non-Rroma gentiles (and each other) not to use the g-slur. I would also find it totally reasonable that Jewish characters might be anti-Rroma by accident or uneducated about Rroma people even being a real thing because of not knowing any better, like if someone hadn’t educated them, or if they were anti-Rroma because people who aren’t Rroma can be anti-Rroma, not specifically because they’re Jewish.

Jewish people sometimes have religious tension over interfaith marriages because our parents get freaked that if we marry gentiles we’ll all die out. There’s a such thing as marrying someone of another faith but promising to bring the kids up Jewish. I know more than one person who came out and their parents were like “okay, fine, but still marry a Jew.” The other reason parents get freaked out is that deep down sometimes it’s very hard to believe that a gentile really does think we’re human and okay and not secretly plotting between ourselves to take over the world. Like, you know that General Order 66 thing in the third Star Wars prequel where suddenly all the stormtroopers just know what Palpatine means, and start killing all the Jedi? Some gentiles think we’re up to shit like that so the idea of marrying a gentile means worrying that deep down inside that’s what they or their family think of us. You know what, though? This is very similar to some of the toxic mythology about Rroma people out there. So if both sides believed the non-Rroma gentile slander about the other side, then maybe that’s where the tension comes from, too.

But can we talk about this “both sides hate the other” idea for a second? I don’t know your background, but if someone who’s not a member of two marginalized groups chooses to write a story that makes both of those groups look bad for giving each other trouble, that makes me a little uncomfortable. Think how awkward it would be for a straight cis guy to write about the tensions between lesbians and bisexual women. It would almost seem as if lesbians and bi women were each other’s biggest problems, rather than straight people and cis men specifically perpetrating the most discrimination and systemic oppression against all women who love women. 

Now, as I said, I don’t know your background–if you’re Jewish or Rroma yourself, find a writing buddy of the other group and together you can talk about ways to make your story really ring true–if that’s a realistic conflict in the first place, anyway.

By the way, there’s no reason you can’t have family tension that doesn’t have anything to do with people’s ethnic background. Personality differences can happen within marginalized communities just like anywhere else, and plenty of people don’t get along with their family’s in-laws or find them snobby or not good enough. Just make sure your fictional in-laws’ “objectionable traits” aren’t directly derived from lazy stereotypes.

–Shira

anonymous asked:

I remember you posting during the campaign about having issues with people comparing Trump to Hitler. Do you still think that's problematic? I mean, he's doing things eerily similar to stuff Hitler did in the early days, like Trump's list of crimes committed by immigrants. Or was it always more about the way people made these comparisons, the way they said it, than just that they were making comparisons?

My real issue was people who didn’t stand up against antisemitism covering my social media feeds with images of Holocaust victims. These images are harder for me to view than they are for others since I’m a descendant of survivors. Those pictures could’ve been my grandfather or grandmother or all the great grandparents, great aunts and uncles and cousins I never knew.  

People who throw around Hitler comparisons as if Hitler was some generic evil and didn’t do specific things to specific people make me angry. I’m not going to go around policing people for making the comparisons. I rarely do call outs anymore for numerous reasons including the fact that I believe internet shame culture is doing far more harm than good. So don’t worry about me tracking down your blog and dragging you if you make Hitler comparisons. But at the same time, I’m not going to hide my frustrations with people who use the suffering of Holocaust victims and their descendants to score political points while ignoring threats to their people in the present day. 

ajlenoire  asked:

I'm writing a story that has a Romani girl as a major character. I've tried researching Romani life, but most is vague and almost all media regarding Romani life has been noted to be highly offensive and/or inaccurate. I would really like my information to be correct, and the last thing I want to do is offend anyone. As it stands, I would especially like to know what Romani opinion to non-Romani are, and how they are educated (ie, would they attend a public school? Or be taught by family ect)

Rromani Tropes and Education

The first thing I want you to do is ask yourself why this character is Rromani. What does their background bring to the story? You also need to make sure that you aren’t using any tropes or stereotypes.

There are posts already that cover some of these, but I’ll give a few examples: fortune telling, swindling, being overly seductive, kidnapping children, putting curses on people, etc. These are all harmful stereotypes against Rromani people.

As to what we think of gadje (non Rromanis), it varies from person to person. Some of us don’t trust you, some of us marry you…

Most of us go to school nowadays, at least in the US and parts of Europe. Obviously most is not all, so some may not go. A lot of older Rromanis distrust public and private education. A lot of schools still treat us badly, and even segregate us.

Although most of us go to elementary and secondary schools, there are many who do not go to college. I was the first woman and second person in my entire familija to go to college. Many still choose traditional roles, or are expected to.

-Mod Tasbeeh

anonymous asked:

What's your opinion on Hetalia Nazi Germany cosplays? - I'm German so when I saw this the first time I was extremly shocked. Though I understand that not everybody might be as sensitive as e.g. I am but it still feels wrong to see anyone wearing uniforms from that time. It's just that I wish that at least the people who want to cosplay Germany in a uniform from WW2 would take the regular Wehrmacht uniform instead of uniforms from the SS. Sure they're nice but they're also still from the SS

Just no. Nope.

I think your reaction is entirely appropriate, precisely because the SS weren’t some random part of the German military but intimately connected to Nazi Germany’s genocidal machine as the ones running the concentration camps & the death squads etc.

In my opinion, it’s not that such historical clothing cannot ever be depicted but in some settings it’s not appropriate at all. It’s one thing if somebody is making a historical film set in Nazi Germany and they need some people to wear SS uniforms- I definitely don’t think people should do that for cosplaying a series that is in large part meant to be more light-hearted and full of gags. Also like because neo-Nazis and all still exist? It’s not the same as dressing up as a particularly notorious and tyrannical Roman emperor if you’re going to walk around in the costume of a regime still looked up to by many hate groups. Some of the European far right groups here dress in a manner deliberately reminiscent of SS uniforms still. As you said, if they are interested in historical clothing, they can choose other uniforms. 

The problem about this fascination with “Nazi chic” imo is that it’s hard to stop because it also goes beyond ignorant hetalia fans… Like that “BOY” t-shirt which is basically identical to the Nazi eagle and there was a KPOP girl band that had its members dress up in a stylised version of the SS uniform. And that’s the whole point…the uniform and imagery of the Nazi era was supposed to ooze power, style and prestige and was part of its propaganda about reviving “German greatness”. I think it’s also to do with how history is taught? Sometimes it feels like outside Europe people see the Nazis as just some faraway bad guys instead of real, living monsters who destroyed entire Jewish & Romani communities and oppressed millions of other people- and whose ideas still have power today. 

anonymous asked:

What do you think is behind the popularity of films about the Holocaust as Oscar bait in the movie industry?

“Oscar Bait” is a bit of a loaded term. I think there is a difference between something like Schindler’s List which was made by a Jewish filmmaker at the request of Schindler Jews and something like The Boy In The Striped Pajamas, which is just exploitative. Even then there are Holocaust films made by non-Jewish/non-Romani filmmakers that I think are truly great and respectful. Louis Malle’s Au Revoir Les Enfants comes to mind.

Now, where do I draw the line between “Oscar Bait” and something that’s a genuinely worthwhile Holocaust film? I have a few different questions I ask.

1. Is this actually based on a true story? 

If it’s based on a true story, I’m inclined to give it a pass. These usually end up as documentaries, but surprisingly few fictional films are made based on true stories. Schindler’s List, Europa Europa, and many of the filmed adaptations of Anne Frank’s diary immediately come to mind. But there’s actually a lot of stuff that’s pure BS.

2. If the movie is fictional are the victims treated as three dimensional people or are they used as an engine to develop characters who are not and would not be victims? Is the scenario even plausible?

This is why I love Au Revoir Les Enfants and cannot stand The Boy in The Striped Pajamas. Both feature boys who were of groups not targeted by the Nazis as main characters, but Au Revoir Les Enfants develops its Jewish characters to be far more than symbols and demonstrates the guilt and naivete of its protagonist who plausibly grapples with his degrees of complicity even at so young an age. You can tell from watching the film that Louis Malle had been haunted his entire life about what happened to the Jewish kids who were hidden and ultimately discovered at his French Catholic school. The collective sense of Vichy France’s collaboration is palpable. The Boy in the Striped Pajamas relies instead on “it could happen to you!” histrionics. If you’re a privileged Aryan kid, it wouldn’t happen to you. Further, the protagonist of Au Revoir Les Enfants wasn’t ignorant of what was going on. And yet, the protagonist of The Boy in the Striped Pajamas lived at Auschwitz Birkenau and somehow didn’t know the Holocaust was happening right outside. What garbage. The world knew about it. Just far too people did anything about it. That’s why the Holocaust was such a catastrophe measured in the millions. 

3. Is this story legitimately about the Holocaust? Or is it just set during the Holocaust to up the dramatic stakes?

Why did Life is Beautiful take place during the Holocaust? The movie isn’t specific to it. It could’ve taken place in any fictional setting and it would’ve worked just as well. The Holocaust angle felt secondary to the “father protects boy through humor” theme. It just feels exploitative.



As far as the popularity? Well, some people make the movies out of a sense of connection or obligation. Some do it to honor righteous gentiles that, contrary to some of jumblr, I don’t have a problem with so long as they’re not excessively fictionalized. Some do it because they want to make sure the Holocaust is never forgotten. Some, unfortunately, do it because they want to get rich or win awards.

I don’t think we can ever have too many Holocaust films. We can, however, have too many exploitative ones. The thing that needs to happen is that we need more of them to be worthy and for the unworthy ones to disappear.

jacqll  asked:

I'm currently creating a basis for a adventure dark mystery cartoon, with the three main characters being a Rromani girl, a Haitian girl, and a masc nb Jewish kid. Is there anything I have to be careful of, pertaining to curses and magic in the story?

Curses and Magic:  Jewish, Rromani, and Haitian Characters

Here are all the posts I’ve written for WWC about Jewish witches and wizards, in which other people added helpful things as well. Please read them and take note, especially the part about not using blood or any part of stolen Christian children/babies’ bodies for magic.

Opening this up to masc nonbinary Jewish followers for any extra input/suggestions on that front.

–Shira

I’ve actually answered several questions on this before. I’m very wary of non-Romani people writing magical Romani characters; there are many stereotypes about us putting curses on people or practicing witchcraft. These stereotypes are not only untrue but have also gotten us killed. 

My go-to question for non-Romani writers is this: 

Does this character have to be Romani? 
Does this character being Romani add something meaningful to the plot or is it just being used to fill some diversity quota? 
Are you going to research extensively? 
Which subgroup/vitsa are they? 

Our cultures are not homogenous and many non-Romani authors do not do proper research and tend to mix and match customs, language and traditions. This is unacceptable and quite frankly racist. If you really have your heart set on writing a Romani character, it is your responsibility to do my culture and ethnicity Justice. Put in the proper research and write us with respect, or don’t write it at all. 

–Tasbeeh

Much of the time adding Haitian people into a setting which is fiction and has magic/curses immediately means that There Shall Be Voodoo.  Remember that since it is a religion and not just a set of magical practices, and since it has been featured in a fantasized version by multiple media sources (which are mistaken for reliable sources), you’ll have to do your research by consulting multiple sources. 

Using something that is inaccurate is not bad; disrespectful execution is. So, since fictional Haitian Voodoo has its iconic traits regardless of each traits’ authenticity, I recommend that you familiarize yourself with them (such as the dolls) to make informed decisions on whether and how to use them in your work by not only pursuing authentic sources and historical sources, but taking a look at the sensationalized portrayals as well (like White Zombie) and seeing for yourself how the religious practice has been used in fiction over the years. A trip through our Voodoo tag won’t hurt either.

Thanks!

–Rodriguez

Divination 101- M

Macharomancy: a divination using knives, daggers, or swords. The smaller blades were most common. A diviner would place the blade in the center of a circle with symbols divided into 15 sections. The question would be asked, the blade would be spun, and the diviner would write down the letter or symbol where the blade fell. This would be repeated till and answer was forthcoming.

There was a second version of this form of divination, used almost exclusively by the Romani. It was similar in the fact that there was a circle divided into fifteen sectors, however, when the question was asked the romani would only let it fall three times. The answer was one of the three answers given.

Macromancy: is divination by using large objects. This is literally everything I have about this form of divination. If anyone knows anything else about it please contact me and I will edit this post.

Maculomancy: an alternate form of moleomancy that uses freckles. 

Margaritomancy: is divination using a pearl or pearls and could be done in one of three ways. Either a diviner would cast pearls similar to bones or stones, and divine off of the pattern that the pearls made, or they would divine the pearl while still in the pearl inside of the oyster.

The final was far more specific. A diviner would take a bunch of pears and place them in a clay pot, cast iron skillet, or a vase. This item would be placed on or near a fire. A crime and a series of names would be read out loud, the pearl would bounce when the guilty name was read.

Meconomancy: is divination using sleep. This is not dream interpretation, but rather watching the way a person sleeps and divining their personality and attitude from this.

Meteoromancy: is divination by studying meteors.It is derived from the Latin meteros which means “things in the air” or “heavenly bodies”. It was often thought that the appearance of a meteor could predict any number of natural disasters, plagues, or the deaths of a great person.

The Romans picked up the practice and began to incorporate phenomina such as lightening/thunder, eclipses, and the appearance of planets in the sky.

A shooting star was supposed to predict the birth of a great person. Lightening striking close together predicted a war. Rolling thunder represented death by plague.

Metopomancy: is divination using the forehead or face and was first practiced in China and is still in use in several Asian countries. Hippocrates utilized it in his practice of medicine. It was further used by Jerome Cardano who wrote a book that included 800 different facial structures and lines that would denote personality and temperament.

Micromancy: is divination using small objects.Like macromancy….I seriously don’t have any other information on this.

Moleosophy: is divination by moles on the body. It has it’s birth in a form of pseudoscience developed by none other than Hippocrates. The diviner would sketch out the pattern and placement of moles on the subjects body and associate them with the stars, thus incorporating astrology into the divination. By these means a diviner could denote the destiny and personality of the subject.

The most common divinations were a mole on the left shoulder meant the person had a chip on their shoulder (hah!) and was prone to fighting. However if the mole was between the wrist and elbow (on the underside of the arm) the person was likely to be peaceful. A mark on the face meant they were to be attractive, one in the hairline denoted secretive nature, one on the left thigh said that the person was likely prone to worries and one of the right thigh meant that their life would be full and happy.

In this form of divination freckles were not used.

Molybdomancy: uses shapes of molten metal (usually lead or tin) in water.This form of divination was born in Greece but became very popular in the European Middle Ages to divine illnesses, plagues, sickness, and disease. It was also used to find out if a person had been hexed.

Interpretation could happen in several ways. The sound the metal made when it hit water, she shapes of the droplets after they had formed inside the water, or how the water responded when pored over hot metal.

While it was founded it Greece it was not practiced often there. It was practiced (and still is) in Nordic countries, primarily Germany and Finland. They would pour hot metal on a smooth surface and pour water over it, the shapes that the metal took created the divination.

Another common German divination was to take the molten metal and pour into cold water and wait for it to harden. They would take the lump and rotate it in candle light, waiting for shapes to appear.

In Ireland and Wales a person could do a similar divination to discover the profession of their future husband.

Myomancy: is divination using the sounds, movements, destructiveness, and appearance of mice or rats. Usually thought to be the portents of disaster or destruction.

anonymous asked:

Tbh it bothers me when people use the Holocaust as a springboard to talk about other things. Like even as a lesbian, I tend to get a bit reared back when I see so many people go on morality tirades about "well what about GAY PEOPLE? We were affected too!!" insofar as the Holocaust goes. I'm goy, but I'm also gay, and I know that the Holocaust was a very directed genocide. And tbh I wish we had better sense than trying to make it about us.

I don’t have a problem with people discussing how gay people were murdered during the Holocaust. The problem is that people don’t actually study how that persecution was carried out was substantively different than what was done to Jews or Romani. Instead I often encounter people who use that fact, devoid of context or understanding, to shut up Jews talking about antisemitism. The fact of the matter is that the Nazis murdered Jews for being Jews. They did not determine which of us were straight and which weren’t. There was no attempt to “fix” Jews who weren’t straight to strengthen the Aryan people by weeding out “undesirables.” They killed Jews as Jews no matter their sexual orientation. These issues can be discussed simultaneously, but they are not the same. Jews and Romani people lost entire families, towns and sub-cultures to the Nazis on a total scale. Again, it’s important to remember all the victims, but doing so to downplay what was done to Jews is FAR too common and it helps to normalize the downplaying of the loss of the majority of Jewish life in Europe and the ripple effects it has carried across the world and across generations. 

Magical Muslim-Monsters, Romani, Black Women and Latina Stereotypes

Anonymous asked: 

Okay so i am working on several stories with POC characters. I feel like a few of them may be tropes but i’ve checked and they don’t seem to match any? 

Magical Muslim and Monster Tropes

in one story there’s a trio of magical girls. one of them is a Muslim girl who was cursed into a spider creature. she is ashamed of this and views it negatively. would this relate to any monster Muslim stereotypes? she doesn’t drink blood. she rarely uses her magic, only if she absolutely has to.

Sassy Black Stereotypes in Children

in the second story there’s a trio of sisters. they are all Black and the daughters of the personification of heaven. the first sister is very young, only 7 or 8. she is very loud and sort of bold, i don’t want her to come across as a “sassy Black girl” stereotype, because later on she reveals she is only that way because her oldest sister doesn’t care for her as much as she should. the middle sister is a teenager, like 16, and spends a lot of time on her phone. she cares very much for her little sister. she doesn’t get along too well with the oldest sister either because she didn’t take care of their younger sister. she kind of fits the white girl starbucks stereotype but is shown to be caring and gentle on a regular basis. their oldest sister is disconnected and not really sure how to be a good sister after their mother left, but she tries her hardest. i think the second 2 characters are okay but im not sure about the first one.

Greedy Latina Stereotypes

in the last story (its fantasy) the entire main cast are POC. first off theres the main heroine. she is indigenous Guatemalan of Mayan descent. she lives in a village in England. She wears English style clothes and armor and speaks English, even though Spanish is her first language. she wants to fit in so people with see her as a hero, because being a hero is her goal in life. throughout the story she slowly starts reconnecting with her Guatemalan roots, like speaking Spanish more and wearing her mother’s huipils on occasions. at the very end of the story she has learned to preserve her parent’s culture while living in England. i don’t want her to come across a negative latina stereotype of liking money and being sort of greedy. (she is strong and kinda punk as well)

Romani Elf 

one of her friends is an elf and Romani with albinism. she isn’t an elf because shes albino or albino because she’s an elf, she’s just an albino elf. she can’t use magic as well as her brother can so i think that avoids “magical albino” but is there any issue with her being Romani? i couldnt find much in your tags on Romani in fantasy. what could i do to show her living a traditional Romani life without using stereotypes? (i know it may not make much sense for an elf to be Romani, but she is because of the way elves work in this world. i wont go into detail but basically elves are sort of seen as higher beings and since her parents chose to live with a group of Romani people, their children were born Romani.)

Saudi Arabian Djinn

2 of the side characters are a Tahitian mermaid (cookiecutter shark) who mostly acts a guide. at one point she tricks the first girl mentioned by leading her off and taking her valuables. im pretty sure that’s not a stereotype however. the other side character is a Saudi Arabian djinn who is not Muslim. she’s a traditional djinn, is there something wrong with her being Saudi and not Muslim? 

Motherly Black Queen and Angry Black Woman

And finally the 2 characters that i think are sort of problematic but i cant pinpoint why. The queen is a Black woman, she is very motherly towards her subjects but this is because she is the queen and she’s sort of the sad about it, like the subjects dont know how much empathy she has for them. she is very mysterious and magical. her counterpart is the villain, another Black woman who is connected to fire. she is the sun, basically, and shown to be abusive to the elf’s brother who had the stone her spirit was trapped in for a long time. she uses a lot of big, fancy words. she is so angry because she was trapped in the stone for so long, i dont want to play her as an angry Black woman stereotype though.

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scaryspooks  asked:

is there a gypsy!Stiles tag?

EDIT: now called our romani!stiles tag. Sorry about that guys!
now there is!

for the way this animal love, lurches monstrous up my chest by hoars (1/1 | 2,481 | R)

“Strangeness follows the Romani, what is a little more?” Elder Travj asked.

That was the night Derek’s pack began to follow the caravan; a night marked by fire and loss.

BEFORE/NOW by KilledTheQueen (3/3 | 27,093 | R)

Once Upon A Time AU ~

The one where Stiles was once a Gypsy in The Enchanted Forest but now due to “The Curse” is a Radio DJ in Storybrooke with no memory of his past.

lone-soprano-of-sopranoland  asked:

Hello! I am having problems with the slang and dialect of my characters' speech, being an African American teenage girl. I have characters from many countries and English is not their first language, and I want their speech and slang to identify them without saying "They're a Romani, or she's from Côte D'Ivoire." I also have dozens of pages of slang for each of them, but how much slang is too much? How do I write their dialogue without coming out as either cartoony or non-existent? Thank you!

Romani Slang in Dialogue 

Hi! Firstly, you need to be very careful about where you are getting your Romani slang, because half the pages on the internet are either wrong or mix dialects that would normally never be spoken together. If you have a Romani character from a certain country, that will also influence what dialect they speak and therefore what slang they would use. If you’d like to make sure what you’re using is appropriate, you can message my personal blog and I’d be happy to check it out for you. I’m very wary about non-Romani people writing Romani characters, so you need to be careful you’re not stereotyping your OC in any way; no fortune telling, swindling, etc. 

Also, generally you wouldn’t say someone is “a Romani”; you’d say they’re Romani OR they’re a Romani person. I have heard people using “a Romani”, but generally I think that’s not appropriate. As for how much slang a character might use, it depends on context. If I’m speaking with a fellow Romani person, I might use a fair amount because I can be relatively sure I will be understood; however, when I’m speaking with non-Romani people, I don’t tend to use that much because it will just go over their heads! Nobody knows what “bi baxt” means if they aren’t Romani/don’t speak Rromani chib. :) That’s all I can answer, but maybe another mod can help wrt your Côte D’Ivoire character!

–Mod Tasbeeh

I’m of the opinion that you just write their dialogue as you would someone who has English as a second language, but that could differ based on where they’re from (such as applying different grammar rules, having to get used to gendered pronouns, etc.) 

Tossing in dialect and slang is going to scream “cartoon” unless you’re being subtle about it. 

Also, the only way I’d have other languages slipping into my English is if I’m talking to folks who can also speak that language.

–Mod Jess

anonymous asked:

PART 1 As someone who studies film and literature, when those books regarding the Holocaust are taught in schools they aren't taught as history lessons - they are taught to get children to understand empathy and pathos in media, so they can better...

PART 2 understand how those sort of feelings are demonstrated, and how students can learn to identify that sort of thing. Also, learning about the growth of anti-Semitism in Germany would be a waste of time unless one lives in Germany.

Yeah. I agree 100%. Any Holocaust education program that doesn’t spend time on the history of anti-semitism, anti-romani racism and on the social psychology of obedience and confirmation bias isn’t doing its job. There are many outlets to learn about empathy or pathos, like Pixar movies. 

I think there are five objectives every good Holocaust education program needs to include and that if it doesn’t include all three, it fails.

1. This happened. It actually happened in the proportions reported. 6 million Jews, 11 million people overall. These were not civilian war cascualties due to common reasons like famine or indiscriminate bombing but due to deliberate extermination as the primary goal, a goal that actively hampered the German war effort. 

2. Hitler was not exceptional. The German people were not exceptional. There are a number of sociological and psychological facts at play that made it surprisingly easy to lead the country into genocidal violence and that those factors are inherent to the human condition and are not specific to that place in time. Many Europeans were happy to collaborate with the Nazis, often out of fear, but just as often because they shared the same prejudices and were more than happy to be rid of the Jews or the Romani. The lessons of the Holocaust should be as much cautionary as they are historical. People need to acknowledge that, if they are not vigilant, actions like this can be repeated and, indeed, they have in countries like Cambodia, Rwanda and Sudan. That doesn’t mean people should trot out Holocaust comparisons lightly, but it does mean that people need to understand that “Never Again” is a warning, not declaration of certainty. 

3. The victims of the Holocaust were not saved. There was no serious effort by any allied country to save the Jews. While countries like Denmark and Albania deserve recognition for what they did to save Jews, the countries that actually defeated Germany fought Germany as a priority and did not make any extra efforts to liberate the camps. The USA knew about the Death Camps by 1942 at the latest and didn’t even bother to bomb the train lines to Auschwitz. D-Day was awfully late if liberating the camps was anything approaching a priority. I will give Eisenhower some credit for doing everything he could to document the Holocaust after he actually saw a camp, but it was too little too late as far as actually stopping or minimizing the Holocaust itself. It was all hypothetical to him until it was all too real. People didn’t want to believe, which brings me to my next point. 

4. The victims of the Holocaust were real people. It’s important to recognize that Holocaust victims and survivors are diverse individuals. Every single one of them had the same complex mass of feelings, thoughts, emotions, loves, fears and needs as anyone else. Now try to imagine absolutely everything about yourself being taken away. Now imagine living in absolute terror for six years. Now imagine that everyone in your family, everyone you care about is with you, but they are, individually, in all their complexity, everything you love about them, everything about them that irritates you, put through the same hell. You don’t know who you are going to lose next. Maybe they’ll be separated from you at a train station and you will spend years looking for information to no avail. Maybe you’ll watch them die of starvation and disease while you somehow survive the same and spend the rest of your life wondering why it was you that made it through for decades afterwards. Imagine going home after all that, the sole survivor of your entire town and seeing some goy has stolen your home and says to you, “you’re back? You’re supposed to be dead.” And then they chase you off their property. 

To so many people it’s just numbers. But this was a lived reality that scars and those scars are passed down. 

5. The Holocaust was a culmination of centuries of persecution. It was neither a beginning nor an end. Treating it as such is to deny very real threats to modern day Jews and Romani. Judging oppression by its worst instances allows lesser instances to perpetuate. Pogroms, expulsions, vandalism, murder, these situations are all intolerable, but just because every one doesn’t leave millions dead doesn’t mean that they should compared against it. 

There’s more I could get into. But the Holocaust is not an opportunity to “practice feeling.” Get your catharsis somewhere else.

esmeraldt-deactivated20161206  asked:

Okay, so I have one character who's biracial(black/Roma) who is essentially made to hide a lot-- her sexuality, being intersex -- and is left immortal due to a condition that functions like an STI. What I'm wondering is if her ties to the mafia feeds into any archaic stereotypes. She was head honcho and thanks to years worth of connections she managed to make a legit business for herself after the '70s. She tries her best not to lie and is more than willing to help people. And she's Jewish.

Black Roma Jew and Mafia Ties

So I don’t think there are any stereotypes of Romani people being in the mob, but there ARE stereotypes of us being violent criminals who swindle and dupe people, so maybe avoid that? Also, and this might be just me, but it seems like you’re trying to make this character “super diverse”… 

Afro-Romani people are not uncommon, but Afro-Romano Jews are few and far between. I am slightly uncomfortable with this because it seems really far fetched for the sake of exoticism or forced diversity.

I’m not saying biracial Afro-Romani Jewish people don’t exist, it’s just… very rare? Although I guess in America it would probably have more of a chance of happening than elsewhere.

–Mod Tasbeeh

Check out “PoC in Crime Families & Black/Native Boss.”

Anyhow, I agree with Tasbeeh. I’m not sure of the reasons for picking those three and it can potentially come across as random selection. There is a history of Black Roma communities (Do your research, but here’s an Afro-Romani Facebook group that might be a start) but for their being Black + Roma +Jewish, it’d be nice to see some personal history to how this came about so it doesn’t read so much as “mixed bag diversity" where you’re just picking and choosing ethnicity/identities at random.

The addition of being Jewish really makes me think of the said random selection deal and with it you run the risk of exoticification as Tas said. 

On that note, i’d remind you to do a logic trace, if there was one at all here.

–Mod Colette

> i’d remind you to do a logic trace, if there was one at all here.

I like the way you phrased this, Colette, so yeah: if this character’s gonna be Jewish, set that up somehow. Is she Jewish by descent? Did she convert? Do you know anything about the motivations behind her conversion? (BTW, this isn’t something people should ask strangers – and Jews of color often get unwelcome/intrusive questions like this IRL – but this is your character so it would be good to know even if it doesn’t wind up getting described in the story.) Don’t feel bad if you wind up having to take her Jewishness out if it no longer makes sense in light of what Tasbeeh said, btw.

–Shira

You might benefit from reading Yelena Khanga, she is an Afro-Russian Jew who moved to the United States. She wrote a book called Soul To Soul, which covers basically 200 years of her family (her mother is a Polish Jew, her father was Abdullah Kassim) and it’s the closest I can think of, for one thing, but it talks about eastern European multiculturalism from an autobiographical point of view and while it isn’t Roma + Jew + Black, it’s Jew + Black + Eastern European, and may give you an insight or two.

–Rodriguez