The color palette you choose, the kind of sketches you draw, the concepts and ideas that come to your mind while drawing can be described by astrology with Venus and Neptune. The moon has a big impact too.
Venus in Aires is all about messy sketches, action poses, rough lines and reddish, contrasted palettes. Their art is most likely to be colorful and groundbreaking.
Venus in Taurus is all about human anatomy, sensual poses and greenish palettes. Their art is most likely to have quality and being pleasent to look.
Venus in Gemini is all about communication and characters, matched with a yellowish palettes. They could be great fanartist because they are able to imagine how a character would react in different situations. Their art style could be simple or tricky. They could use a huge variation of of materials and colors.
Venus in Cancer is all about eyes, people, melancholy and pale palettes. Their art is most likely to have a a huge emotional weight.
Venus in Leo is all about exageration and symbolism! Colors, people, animals, landscape matched with gold, bright palettes. Their art is most likely to be full of life. They can feel inspired by everything!
Venus in Virgo is all about neat lines, well proporcioned figures and dull palettes. Their art could show their daily life, with a hidden message.
Venus in Libra is all about beauty, soft lines and pinkish-pastel palettes. Their art is most likely to be aesthetic oriented, but not shallow at all.
Venus in Scorpio is all about distorted anatomy and poses, rough lines and dark or reddish palettes. Their art is most likely to be disturbing and with a deep meaning.
Venus in Sagittarius is all about exaggerated anatomy, dynamic poses and purple palettes, colorful and vibrant colors. Their art is most likely to express an ideal or belief.
Venus in Capricorn is all about elegance and brownish palettes. Their art is most likely to find success and frame the current society.
Venus in Aquarius is all about weird anatomy and electric palettes, could not use lineart at all. Their ideas or art style are most likely to be groundbreaking as Aries’ art, but with a purpose.
Venus in Pisces is all about their dreams, blurred lines and sea-green palettes. Their draws are most likely to have a dream-like atmosphere. People could feel reflected in their art, and their draws could being interpreted in different ways.
Neptune in the Earth signs are most likely to draw their enviroment and what they can see and touch.
Neptune in the Fire signs are most likely to draw their unique creations and ideals.
Neptune in the Air signs are most likely to draw abstract concepts and try to express and communicate through their art.
Neptune in the Water signs are most likely to do art closely attached to their sentiments, art could be a therapy for them.
It can be interpreted with houses too. For example, if Neptune is in the 5th house it will have a similar influence like if it were in Leo.
oh, my sweet, sweet child, what has the world done to you? you were a bright promise,
the tomorrow we had hoped for, holding flowers in your mouth without crushing them
and trusting blindly in those around you. and then came the blood; and now your fire
is a quiet thing, a crackling murmur hidden in the shadows. you’ve curled into yourself
like a newborn babe, held your heart tightly to your chest and began the tedious healing.
and all the salt in your tears made the deep wounds sting; was it this what kept you pure?
I wonder, oh, I wonder. before you, I had never seen an anathema so full of innocence.
(the world tried to cast you down from paradise; and it succeeded. but the fall couldn’t
maim you, for fire cannot kill fire – it simply shrunk you, much like a mimosa bloom.
I hope one day you’ll feel safe enough to flower, for there is so much beauty in you.)
I wish I could wrap my hands around your shoulders and hold you close for a while,
because oh, what sad things they are, your bones. I am so sorry, beloved; so very sorry.
and I am well aware these apologies cannot change anything, but I want you to know
that there is someone who sees you as you are – even when all the others see is your
superfluous frivolity and your desire for riches, I see the thoughtful mind, the gentle
gestures, each and every of your heartbeats. the song of you is imprinted into my memory
as the change in seasons is; you are unforgettable, something so precious and so very dear.
(don’t let them shame you for your greed – those who try to do so cannot wrap their
all too little minds around the fact that sin is not necessarily negative. your love for gold
has root in the same place as your love for others; you only want it so you may share it.)
it’s lonely, isn’t it? not being the way all others are. they tell you you’re a forgery, that your
smile is a mask and your composure an act, simply because they cannot accept the idea
that people are supposed to be multidimensional. on and on they go, pinning their ignorance
to you under the name of blame, seeing in you only that which they wish to see. sometimes,
you wish you were like them. I know you do. you shouldn’t. it might be lonely where you are,
but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing; lonely doesn’t mean secluded. there are others like you,
with minds like diamonds. others like you, who are only habitual in their tendency for change.
(you will find someone who can make sense out of you, one day, you know. they’ll know you
better than you yourself do – every single aspect of you, every single frantic facet and feeling.
and when you do, the wait will be more than worth it. I promise you won’t die nor live alone.)
you poor, poor, poor thing. it’s been a thousand years since you’ve curled into yourself, hid
your heart deep in the cradle of your ribs and let yourself sleep; then the time came for you
to awaken, and you found the world unchanged – it was as if everything had stood still.
reality swept into you like saltwater into gaping wounds, and every fiber of your soul wept.
fearful, you took the broken glass road still, walked it fully aware of what laid in waiting;
like a bride the night she is wed to a stranger, you swallowed your terror and saw it through.
often, those ignorant make you out to be such a bumbling coward. you’re not. you just aren’t.
(in fact, you’re on of the bravest people I know; it takes so much courage to let the world
see you weep – and it takes even more of it to wipe your tears and keep moving forward.
above all, it takes immense courage to allow yourself to love even when you know it’ll hurt.)
the size of your heart puts to shame both Jupiter and your own pride and ego; to this day,
I am not sure if you would have been better off with one much smaller, but I know for sure
the world would have been emptier by far. you see, your touch is one of gold; whomever
you decide to invest your time and love into grows the size of Atlas, and so, without you
as you are now there would have been much less in the world. that is your downfall, isn’t it?
always has been. the way you’ve always put others first, giving them all of you, never asking
for anything to be given to you in return. you are a gardener, dearest, and people are your roses.
(it breaks my heart that all your selfless effort was almost always repaid in hurt and sorrow;
know that you are not to be blamed for any of it. you have done nothing wrong – sometimes,
things simply fall apart. don’t shut your heart. I’d hate to see your love rot and turn to hatred.)
you have endured well the contempt of others, my dear; you have taken every blow with open arms.
they have called you frigid and prude and arrogant and everything in between, but you knew better.
tell me then: if you can endure so well the slander of others, if you don’t care what they make of you,
why do you worry so? why do you see only blemishes when you look at yourself in the mirror?
your hesitance to trust others stems in your fear that if you let them in they’ll see your ugliness, all
the imagined imperfections you see in your reflection. you can’t trust others because you don’t trust
yourself; and I wish so badly that you would have a little more faith in who you are, in your beauty.
(being unable to forgive, jealousy and lust do not make you terrible. hate is human nature as much
as love is; emotions, be they bad or good, are intrinsic to mankind. you are such a passionate being,
despite your outward delicacy, and that, my dear, is simply stunning. please try to love yourself.)
darling child, didn’t the gods tell you the mob sees dancers as something of the devil, especially
when their preferred stage is the sharp edge of a sword? few in this world love truth, and fewer still
are fond of things like righteousness and justice. your ability to remain indiscriminate in the face
of contradictory realities and deny none of them is both a blessing and a curse. your mind, I fear,
is the Pandora fate has crafted specifically for you; a beautiful gift that hides such doom and sorrow.
and you are aware of all of this – how you were meant for greater things, with your noble mind
and your true heart, yet on you dance, fighting against the windmills of adversity. how brave you are.
(know that your effort will not go without reward. know that you won’t be forever unloved, nor
will you be forever misunderstood. there will be those whom, like you, have the makings of just men,
and they will understand. keep your eyes open and search the crowd; that is what you do best.)
I look at you and my heart grows small; there is so much sadness in you, from the flower
of your eyes to the slouching arch of your shoulders. you have been misjudged
and falsely accused for so long: whore, they said; monster, perverter, sickness of the soul –
and all of it because you like sex, as if somehow they are the virgin mary reborn,
the goddamn hypocrites. this, too, is something they have misunderstood; it is not sex
that you crave or are interested in. it is intimacy: it is the vulnerability that comes with having
your soul completely bared and lain before another; you crave love, in its’ purest of forms.
(and I know they have convinced you that someone of your kind is not “worthy”; fuck that.
your love is priceless, and one day someone will call your battle scars a masterpiece.
one day someone will love you as wholly as you deserve to be loved. they will love all of you.)
there is such wanderlust in you – you’ve made a home out of the long, long roads,
walked the earth to its’ ends and bathed in the oceans of the horizon; the sky was
your sole companion, its’ stars your map, the wind a spellsong to ward off the passing
sadness and melancholia that threatened to dim the flame of your heart. oh, my child;
how very wonderful you are, a barefoot nomad forever in awe of the world. the feeble
minded call you rootless; how wrong they are. having a voyager heart does not make you
afraid of commitment. it simply means your roots lie elsewhere, splat across the world.
(do not let their malice plant doubts into your mind’s garden; your gypsy heart is worth more
than all their empty ones combined. keep daring the world, sate your thirst for journeying;
only exploration can ever lead to discovery, so let your feet and head both walk the world.)
good god, you’re so tired. life has worn you down to the marrow of your bones,
took everything from you until you were bare-handed; and yet.
and yet you’re still here, standing before me, your spine hardened to titanium,
a delicate thing that can withstand even the most apocalyptic of sieges;
you still find it in you to smile, bitter-bloody-all-teeth and still happy, somehow.
know that I am proud of you; of your bravery, of your resilience,
of how you’ve clung to life by the skin of your teeth. I am proud of you.
(and know that you deserve happiness – you may feel like you don’t, you may feel
that it is above the likes of you, but you deserve it; you have earned it.
know that one of these days, the sun will shine down on your lane, too.)
there’s so much of you inside your skin I am often surprised it has yet to come apart at the seams;
there’s so much of everything inside your skull I am left in awe of your bones – often I wonder,
how are they strong enough to contain the exploding universe inside? my god, this world of ours
has seven wonders and you are all of them. the fortitude of your bright mind ceaselessly
surprises me; I know what to expect, and yet I am still thrown off by your ingenuity and your
ability to remain rational in your abstract ways. nobody but you is open enough to accept it all;
nobody but you can see through the prism of all eyes and walk away with their sanity intact.
(I know they call you “cold”, an ice queen of the Siberian tundra. let them be. those who cannot
see your white-hot warmth are not worthy of your brilliance. you are the brightest star, my dear,
someone accepting and embracing of it all. do not settle for anyone that is blind to your light.)
and how terrible it must be for you, who lives always halfway, to be stuck in a world
that demands certainties which you will never have to give. it is not to say you don’t want
to be resolute – you simply cannot. your world does not have truth, nor does it have falsity;
all that your world has are colors, swirling, forever mingling anew like the clouds in the sky.
one day you are overflowing with everything that blooms inside of you, and lilies
are spilling out of your ribs; the next, you’re empty, and you can’t for the life of you
find something that is all-encompassing enough to fill the growing abyss south of your sternum.
(know that it is okay. the most humane thing you can be is full of contradictions;
as maddening as it can be, each paradox gets you closer to the entity your peers call god.
it was never the devil that built his home on the crossroads, you know. embrace your nature.)
poetry for the signs: the “you’ve done well” edition, L. Schreiber
Aries: ATHENA was the great Olympian goddess of wise counsel, war, the defence of towns, heroic endeavour, weaving, pottery and other crafts. She was depicted crowned with a crested helm, armed with shield and spear, and wearing the snake-trimmed aigis cloak wrapped around her breast and arm, adorned with the monstrous head of the Gorgon
Taurus: CLYTEMNESTRA was the wife of Agamemnon, ruler of the Ancient Greek kingdom of Mycenae or Argos. In the Oresteia by Aeschylus, she was a femme fatale, who murdered her husband, Agamemnon said by Euripides to be her second husband and the trojan princess Cassandra, whom he had taken as war prize following the sack of Troy
Gemini: ANANKE was the Greek Protogenos of necessity, fate, compulsion and inevitability. Emerging fully formed at the beginning of time and marking the beginning of it, her arms are entwined with Kronos’, encircling the universe. Together they surrounded all solid matter and divided it into earth, sea and sky. She is the mother of Fates.
Cancer: PERSEPHONE was a beautiful Goddess/Queen of the Underworld,wife of the god Hades. She was also the Goddess of Spring Growth, who was worshipped alongside her mother Demeter.
Leo: APHRODITE was the Goddess of love and beauty. She is especially associated with the islands of Cyprus, Cythera and Kos. There are contradicting myths about her birth one describes the Greek Goddess Aphrodite as rising as an adult from sea foam. This was as a result of her father, Cronus, cutting off Uranus’s testicles and throwing them into the sea.
Virgo: ERISgoddess of chaos and discord, was not invited to the marriage of Peleus and Thetis. Angered, she rolled a golden apple with the words ‘To the fairest one’. Hera, Aphrodite and Athena fought over who the apple belonged to, until Zeus appointed Paris - prince of Troy - to choose the fairest of the three.
Libra: SELENE is the goddess of the moon. She is the daughter of the Titans Hyperion and Theia, and sister of the sun-god Helios, and Eos, goddess of the dawn. She drives her moon chariot across the heavens.
Scorpio: NYX was the goddess of the night, one of the ancient Protogenoi. She was born of Air, and breeding with Darkness produced Light and Day, first components of the primeval universe. Alone, she spawned a brood of dark spirits, including the three Fates, Sleep, Death, Strife and Pain. Nyx was a primeval goddess represented as simply the substance of night: a dark veil of mist drawn forth from the underworld which blotted out the light of Aither.
Sagittarius: ISISGoddess of love,the moon,magic,healing and fertility.Isis is a goddess from the polytheistic pantheon of Egypt. She was first worshipped in Ancient Egyptian religion, and later her worship spread throughout the Roman empire and the greater Greco-Roman world.
Capricorn: NEMESIS goddess of divine retribution and revenge in Greek mythology. She was born the daughter of Nyx and Erebus, while in some versions she is said to be the daughter of Zeus or Oceanus. She was considered the equivalent of divine retribution and was the personification of equilibrium being dealt out within mortals to ensure that happiness and unhappiness came in equal amounts.
Aquarius: CASSANDRA was the most beautiful of Priam’s daughters, and the god Apollo fell in love with her. Apollo promised Cassandra the gift of prophecy if she would agree to give herself to him. Cassandra accepted Apollo’s gift but then refiised his advances. Apollo was furious, but he could not take back the powers he had given her. Instead he cursed her, proclaiming that although she would be able to tell the future accurately, no one would believe her.
Pieces: MEROPE was said to have been so ashamed of her husbands crimes that she hid her face among the stars of heaven, and so the seventh star of the Pleiades faded away from human sight.
forgottencheeto anon here i asked if you have any straight up flirting moments between cockles???and if so can i have link or fanvideo link?????its okay im sorry i just love your tumblr and i know yous gots the goods,lol and my other ask was do you have any cockles master post not old but uptodate???the first is more important tho:)ohmy gosh am i being pushey O___Oif so ignore this dirty salty cheeto i shall not be redeemed if you say so!!im sorry and thank you tho
Oh goodness! Okay … let’s see if I can get some videos to load.
This is probably not a great example of flirting, because it’s most likely scripted; however … if that’s the case, then they premeditated Jensen making Misha a valentine’s card, and they premeditated Jensen calling Misha his valentine’s … so yeah, I’ll count it as flirting.
I love this because while they’re on set, they can be more themselves than when they’re up on stage in front of thousands … so, what do they do when they’re feeling all relaxed and secure? They flirtatiously tease each other, grope each other and say “I love you”.
Like … okay, what? Even if they did plan this, Jensen didn’t have to go on a endless rant about how amazing Misha is … although, I’m so glad he did!
4.) Then there’s all this shit …
Like … um, what? They just went through this faze of needing to pet each other. (Not that I’m complaining)
Then this whole glorious exchange from back in the early, early cockles days, just shows that they enjoyed flirting with each other from day fucking one.
6.) And then there’s all the on stage cuteness …
And Chuck only knows what this was.
Another gag reel moment that perplexes me because like … if Jensen planned this … WHY WOULD HE PLAN THIS?
And of course we have… GOD DAMN FUCKING TREE!
Okay seriously, this list could go on forever– because there’s the boat story, and them going to a spa together, and getting ice cream, and then there’s the ring exchange and the matching bracelets and so on, and so on … but I need to stop.
As for a Cockles master post, I only know of the one from like two years ago (which excluded me and my fics and my blog … but I’m not still salty about that. Nope. Not at all.)
So if any of my followers know of a more recent one, please let me know.
Sorry about the delay in answering this, but I’m glad I finally got to now.
Hey guys I have put a song for each Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars sign so you can make your own mini playlist based on your placements :D I hope you like it :)))
Aries: The Trick To Life - The Hoosiers (x) Taurus: The Joker - Steve Miller Band (x) Gemini: Daylight - Matt and Kim (x) Cancer: Daydream Believer - The Monkees (x) Leo: Green Light - Lorde (x) Virgo: Call Me Out - PLTS (x) Libra: Happy - Marina & The Diamonds (x) Scorpio: No Good - Knuckle Puck (x) Sagittarius: Mustang - Skegss (x) Capricorn: NEW DORP. NEW YORK - SBTRKT & Ezra Koenig (x) Aquarius: Teenage Icon - The Vaccines (x) Pisces: For Real - Mallrat (x)
Aries: Tennessee - Kiiara (x) Taurus: Joan of Arc - Jamie T (x) Gemini: The World at Large - Modest Mouse (x) Cancer: Art School Wannabe - Sorority Noise (x) Leo: Lush Life - Zara Larsson (x) Virgo: Hourglass - Trophy Eyes (x) Libra: Some Nights - Fun. (x) Scorpio: The Science of Selling Yourself Short - Less Than Jake (x) Sagittarius: She’s Thunderstorms - Arctic Monkeys (x) Capricorn: Keep Growing - Camp Cope (x) Aquarius: One Headlight - The Wallflowers (x) Pisces: Twilight Driving - Methyl Ethel (x)
Aries: Can’t Stop - Red Hot Chili Peppers (x) Taurus: You Only Live Once - The Strokes (x) Gemini: Talk Too Much - COIN (x) Cancer: Tongue Tied - Grouplove (x)
Leo: Queen - Client Liaison (x) Virgo: Your Ex Lover Is Dead - Stars (x) Libra: Say What You Want - Columbus (x) Scorpio: Borderline - Tove Styrke (x) Sagittarius: Death To The Lads - The Smith Street Band (x) Capricorn: Best Of You - Foo Fighters (x) Aquarius: I’m Good - The Mowgli’s (x) Pisces: Feels Like We Only Go Backwards - Tame Impala (x)
Aries: You and I in Unison - La Dispute (x) Taurus: December - Neck Deep (x) Gemini: That’s What I Like - Bruno Mars (x) Cancer: Slide - Goo Goo Dolls (x)
Leo: All I Want Is You - Ball Park Music (x) Virgo: 5 Years Time - Noah and the Whale (x) Libra: Shimmer - Fuel (x) Scorpio: Inside Out - The Chainsmokers (x) Sagittarius: for him. - Troye Sivan ft. Allday (x) Capricorn: Brown Eyed Girl - Van Morrison (x) Aquarius: Guillotine - The Wombats (x) Pisces: Delete - DMA’s (x)
Aries: Start Me Up - Rolling Stones (x) Taurus: I’ve Given Up On You - Real Friends (x) Gemini: She Got Arrested - The Interrupters (x) Cancer: Not My Friends - Tired Lion (x) Leo: Somebody’s Talking - The Preatures (x) Virgo: Your Graduation - Modern Baseball (x) Libra: Gut Full - The Hard Aches (x) Scorpio: I Feel It Coming - The Weeknd (x) Sagittarius: Volcano Girls - Veruca Salt (x) Capricorn: Came Out Swinging - The Wonder Years (x) Aquarius: Bullshit - Dune Rats (x) Pisces: Kill Em With Kindness - Selena Gomez (x)
Ok my curiosity got the better of me, I have to ask! Why u're called "The Cockles Prophet"? ^^
Aww I haven’t been asked this for a while, so I’ll refer to an old answer when this all first started, and then I’ll add on to what has occurred since then.
I believe the most notable was in my final chapter of “The Plot”. Jensen and Misha were standing at the edge of a lake at sunset, snuggling close and basically reveling in the moment they had all to themselves. Then, five days after I wrote and posted that chapter, they came out with this manly moment:
Less notably, in the same fic I wrote about Jensen and Misha getting into a rather erotic game of Twister. Perhaps a week or two later, Misha tweeted this:
On a related note, that moment in the story led to @winjennster creating this lovely photo … which also led to Cockles’s butt touching, so … I’m counting it.
Another moment was confirmed much more recently when Jensen was speaking at VanCon. When I wrote “The Plot” I added in a very silly scene that involved JJ, Jared and a petting zoo trip that ended in a bit of chaos. As it turns out, JJ does in fact love petting zoos and she does somehow bring a bit of mayhem with her when she visits them.
More recently, at the start of last year– someone asked me to make some predictions about what kind of Cocklesy things would happen in 2016. So, I made a list of mostly crazy stuff but one of the things I mentioned was that Misha would give a heartfelt congratulations to Jensen for winning a People’s Choice Award (x). I honestly had no idea that Jensen was even nominated or when the awards were actually happening, but the very next day– Jensen won for favorite sci-fi actor, and Misha made the lovely video of him giving Jensen the tea kettle.
Finally, during JIBCon last year, Misha mentioned that Jensen and himself often used their time together in the car, driving to and from set locations, to have deep conversations and long talks. Well, for the three months prior, I had been writing my Cockles Big Bang fic, “The Drive” which was specifically centered around the idea that they did this very thing quite often, so when he said that during the Cockles panel in Rome, I nearly died.
(It happens at 10:25)
Anyway, that’s why I’ve been dubbed “The Cockles Prophet” by a select few. I think there are some things I’m forgetting, but that’s the big stuff anyway.
Thank you for the curiosity! I had fun remembering all this craziness!
Which girl group should you stan based on your sign?
Aries: Girls Girls (여자 여자). With powerful choreos and strong rappers and vocalists who can whistle, these rookies are out for the tough girl crush concept. (Check out self titled track Girls Girls and Juicy Secret).
Taurus: Berry Good. Talent gone unnoticed. The members are always up to something, whether it’s recording a cover or posting videos on instagram. All around vocal group. (Check out Don’t Believe and My First Love).
Gemini: LOONA. Future girl group that’s promoting differently. Every month, a new member is revealed with a solo music video. All the existing members have been announced with different concepts. (Check out Vivid).
Cancer: Spica. This powerhouse girl group has been struggling recently and might be disbanding soon. The members are beautiful and powerhouse vocals. (Check out Tonight and Secret Time).
Leo: Sistar. Are they disbanding this year? Not with all the hype they’ve been getting the past few months (hopefully). This girl group has recently put out an lgbt+ friendly mv and are known for their aesthetically pleasing concepts. (Check out One More Day and I Like That).
Virgo: Cosmic Girls (WJSN). Rookies who have risen to the top of the charts. These girls have power vocalists as well as an incredible rapper and great dancers. Their music videos are cute and visually pleasing. (Check out Secret and I Wish and Catch Me).
Libra: Wonder Girls. Underrated and different. These girls have brought their own style into the kpop industry with slower songs and a few summery bops. (Check out Like This, I Feel You)
Scorpio: Brave Girls. These girls have taken different concepts and made them their own. They have an outstanding rapper as well as good visuals and a powerful vocalist. They are often compared to AOA. Super underrated. (Check out Deepened, High Heels, Don’t Meet).
Sagittarius: EXID. These five girls are always there for each other and support each other through everything. They arguably have the best rapper in the kpop industry as well as the best vocalist. Their visuals are also amazing. They have sexy and weird concepts. (Check out Cream, Don’t Wanna Drive, Hot Pink).
Capricorn: AOA. These girls have taken different styles over the years and grown as a group to the top of the charts. Unfortunately, a tiny scandal has made their Korean fans salty enough to make their new songs/album flop. (Aoa deserve better). The members love each other and are constantly expressing their gratitude to their fans. (Check out Excuse Me, One Thing, Still Falls the Rain).
Aquarius: Oh My Girl. Cute girly concept with choreos that’ll break your legs. (Trust me, I’m learning Windy Day and I think my knee is on backwards). They have a powerful rapper that everyone wants to see on Unpretty Rapstar. All the members have A+ visuals and all of the girls are strong vocalists. Deserve everything. (Check out One Step Two Steps, I Found Love, Closer) (Also look at the freaking choreos for One Step Two Steps and Windy Day).
Pisces: Gfriend. Their concept is cute with quick choreos (not as hard as Oh My Girl’s but this group takes 2nd place). They are often torn down because they have no visuals (okay but have you guys seen Sowon and literally the rest of the girls?). They have a powerful vocalist and their MR’s are perfect. (Check out Rough, Gone with the Wind, White).