What do you think of Hulk the pit bull and the media portrayal of him and his breeders? Just curious
Oh boy. Alright, I think I may end up being attacked for this post,
because I’ve seen that “Hulk” has quite a few huge following of
supporters and I have seen that they that do not particularly like it
when anyone criticizes the the dog’s breeders, but I will try my best
here, I will try to tread lightly so please bare with me, thank you.
The fact is, “Hulk” is not a Pit Bull. And it would be best if we all stopped referring to him as such.
For anyone not familiar with “Hulk”, he is the record holding “World Largest Pit Bull” bred & owned by Dark Dynasty K9s. This is “Hulk”:
Let’s start with his breeders, Dark Dynasty K9s , who have probably never even seen a real APBT/Pit Bull, and wouldn’t know one if one bit them on the face.
I am not going to demonize DDK9 as dog owners, because I suppose from their photos and videos that they must love their dogs, but what DDK9 is doing as breeders is an entirely different story.
DDK9 is doing is very irresponsible, unethical, greedy, actually, and
even detrimental to the image of the real American Pit Bull Terrier and
it’s potentially damaging to the millions of non-APBTs bully breeds that
are falsely labeled as APBTs. And because of the size of “Hulk”, this
could very well put mastiff-type breeds in the same boat as bully
“Hulk” is giving public the false impression that Pit Bulls are capable
of reaching 100, 150, 175+lbs.
A lot of what DDK9 does as
breeders raises countless red flags. The most immediate red flag is that
they do not even know how to spell the breed of dog they are supposedly
breeding. “Pitbulls”, really?
They advertise their dogs as “XL Pitbulls”, which are essentially just oversized American Bullies (or American Bully x mastiff-type mixes?).
In the pedigree of “Hulk”, you will see a “Razors Edge” dog listed by the name of “Razors Edge Payback is a Bomb”
highlighted in yellow, which is the ever so highly popular original
American Bully line commonly (& falsely) referred to as Pit Bulls.
And, also “Eddington’s Wanna Be A Whopper”
(shown below) with a controversial, sketchy history as either an American Bulldog or
mixed breed falsely registered as an APBT in the UKC & ADBA,
which you can read about here because I really do not want to delve into that.
Below are images meant illustrate the different sizes in this American Bully size chart, including the “Pocket”, “Classic”, ”Extreme”, “Standard”, and lastly the “XL” American Bully.
DDK9′s website does not include any of the important details about
their breeding program, I decided maybe we should give them the benefit
of the doubt…
And so I contacted DDK9 through email, asking
them if their dogs undergo any health screenings and evaluations, what
their standards are in breeding in terms of health and whether they aim
to breed away from certain health issues using screening results to
better their breeding program.
This is why it took me a
while to get to your question, because I wanted to give DDK9 some time
to respond to my email, and well it has been about four weeks now and I
have not yet received a response. But if they ever do reply, I’ll be
sure to post it.
DDK9 advertise their dogs as being “huge”, having “great wide chests” and that their dogs produce “monsters”.
DDK9′s sole goal is to produce more of these massive, oversized
American Bullies like “Hulk”, and I have just read that by breeding
“Hulk” within their own kennel they are working towards breaking his
current “record” as the world’s largest (fake) “Pitbull” at 175lbs with his offspring.
found that one of their breeding bitches in particular was bred twice
within a year under the age of two. With how enormous these dogs are,
it’s incredibly irresponsible and potentially harmful to be breeding
them before they have had time to fully mature, not to mention it was at
that bitch’s every heat. While this is just one example of premature
breeding, surely this is a common practice at DDK9, especially
considering their hurried efforts to prodce another record breaking”
“Pitbull”. There is no way that DDK9 is breeding responsibly or with the
health and welfare of their dogs in mind.
“Hulk” allegedly weighs 175 lbs, and is clearly overweight. Just look at this dog:
actually wonder if his breeders have intentionally packed as much
excess weight onto “Hulk” as possible, in effort to truly make him the “World’s Largest”?
The poor dog is probably one wrong step or hop away from blowing a
knee, and not to mention all the other health risks involved in canine
obesity, especially a dog of such a massive size.
Below is an illustration highlighting the ADBA’s standard for the American Pit Bull Terrier:
The American Pit Bull Terrier’s UKC standard calls for dogs/bitches
to weigh between 30 lbs and 60 lbs, and the ADBA calls for 30 lbs to 75
lbs, with 60 to 75 lbs being on the larger side which are few and far
between compared to dogs/bitches of smaller sizes. “The American Pit Bull Terriers is a small to mid-sized dog, an athletic breed with great physical ability.”
To compare to the above photos of “Hulk”, here are some photos of real purebred APBTs:
huge red flag about Dark Dynasty K9 is that they “train” their
“XL Pitbulls” in “protection”, in their own backyard (I cannot seem to
find their credentials in this area, or any titles their dogs have
DDK9 allows all of their dogs to freely socialize / interact with one
another, even sometimes including clients’ dogs that are boarded at their kennel / farm.
According to americanbullydaily.com, “Additionally,
he [Marlon Grennan, breeder] does not believe in separating each dog
whether they are in training or not. By removing any fences, physical
restrictions and barriers the dogs train and live together as a pack
that teaches them how to socialize with other.”
Real American Pit Bull Terriers / Pit Bulls more
often than not are known for exhibiting at least some degree of dog
& animal aggression, and with real APBTs it would be next to
impossible for a dozen Pit Bulls to socialize, interact and roam freely
without a fight breaking out. These are not Pit Bulls. And I am
media hype surrounding “Hulk” has only helped in giving his breeders
more reason to charge tens of thousands to half a million by exploiting
“Hulk” for stud services and his “XL Pitbull” puppies.
media surrounds anything canine related, it makes me terribly nervous,
especially when it’s about Pit Bulls, because it tends to be more
harmful than anything. When a dog bites, it’s the family’s once harmless
“pibble” mix, or in the case of “Hulk”, it’s misrepresenting an entire
breed and giving the public a false impression of what a Pit Bull really
According to www.peoplemagazine.co.za: “The
gentle giant is a doting father to his puppies and is even allowed to
play with the couple’s three-year-old son. “Hulk has shown the world
that when this breed is gentle and balanced, they can be the greatest
dogs in the world,” said Grennan.”
what “Hulk” and his breeders have done for the APBT breed is that they
have given the public an altered and damaging perception of the American Pit Bull
Terrier as a breed.
A lot of rescue organizations that specializes in bully
breeds, have even spoken out against “Hulk” and what his breeders are
doing, and have called for the media to stop portraying “Hulk” and his
breeders in a positive light.
By continuing to misrepresent dogs
like “Hulk” as Pit Bulls, it is seriously damaging to the APBT breed,
bully breeds, and to non-APBTs dogs, and just dogs in general,
especially when these same non-APBT dogs are involved in dog attacks or
are impounded at city pounds / animal shelters. And because of the
appearance of “Hulk”, this could be potentially detrimental to Mastiff
breeds such as the Cane Corso, Presa Canario, and other similar looking
breeds that may find themselves in a dog attack or shelter and are
mislabeled as Pit Bulls.
So, end point: “Hulk” is NOT a Pit Bull, so please stop calling him one!
Actually, it would be best if we stopped calling ALL non-pedigree bully breeds/mutts Pit Bulls.
Stop with the pit bull propaganda. Literally any dog can end up being dog aggressive and it's not because of their breeds.
Now wait minute y’all. I’m going to defend Cat because if you’ve been following this blog long, and you’ve read our dog FAQs, you know our stance on APBTs.
We love them. Block heads are the best. And BECAUSE we love them, we accept their genetics.
There is an article I read that literally takes the words right out of my mouth, and I encourage you to read it. It is about how we are NOT saving these dogs because we are pushing them to be what they aren’t. “Lab/Shepherd mixes” and “Nanny Dogs,” and “it’s all how you raise them” are all damaging to the breed.
Ignoring how a dog might turn out, and putting them in a compromising situation, is how these dogs get a bad rap. As I have said time and time again, genetics do not guarantee behavior, BUT they should never be ignored!
Why would you say, “i would never get a beagle, they bay too much..” or “Pit Bulls aren’t aggressive, have you ever met a Chihuahua?!” or “I could never get a Border Collie, they’re too energetic.” OR “Corgis love to nip at children’s heels.” BUT not “Pit bulls don’t do well with other dogs.”
How come we ignore their traits, but heed the warnings of every other breed? Why don’t you suggest that 9-5 single business man to get an Australian Shepherd, but encourage a 3 dog household to adopt a pit? Like? Do you get what I am saying? I really hope you read this article:
For almost two years, I felt like I had failed as a dog owner because my Bully mix (Pitterstaff/AmBully, at best guess) turned out to be dog aggressive.
“It’s all in how they’re raised!” is a sentence that makes me cringe. Anyone that owns a DA APBT or Bully breed probably knows what I’m talking about. While it is a great sentiment on the ability of dogs to overcome horrible situations, it ignores essential facts about canine behavior while simultaneously putting the blame on dog owners.
One of the first pictures I have of Zuni and I, on a camping trip in early 2012.
Zuni, my craigslist rescue, wasn’t even a year old when I got her. Her history before being picked up off the streets by a friendly married couple is unknown. But she was a fantastic dog and I took her absolutely everywhere with me - she even came to my high school once and assisted me with a theater presentation. We went to the dog park weekly, ran agility, practiced obedience, and played disc anywhere there was enough space for her to run. When I started working at the kennel, she would go to daycare during my shifts. Zuni was so good with other dogs that she was used as a neutral dog to test newcomers for the daycare program.
I did everything right with her. Knowing her breed, I felt an additional sense of responsibility. I couldn’t raise a dog that would contribute to the “dangerous pitbull” idea. But I can’t control genetics and breed tendencies. My breed isn’t dangerous, but ignoring what my breed was meant for is absolutely dangerous.
Around two years of age, the dog aggression began. We consulted with several trainers and tried so many methods that it makes my head spin thinking about it. The best answer we could get from anyone was that she was fear aggressive. I worked with that for nearly a year, but couldn’t ever agree with it. I know fear aggressive dogs, I work with them frequently. Zuni’s behavior and body language certainly wasn’t fearful - she would strain at the end of her leash, every muscle standing out, eyes locked onto another dog with an intensity that terrified most people. It was the same way she looked at squirrels. I’ve broken up two fights, and both times I knew she’d never quit until she couldn’t get to the other dog.
I didn’t make any progress with Zuni until I accepted the fact that dog aggression was a part of her temperament. I stopped blaming myself for her behavior and I stopped seeing her dog aggression as the sign of a “bad dog.” I stopped trying to make her like every dog she met and instead taught her to ignore other dogs in public and focus on me. I don’t allow people to bring their dogs near her and we certainly don’t go to the dog park anymore. I took months introducing her to Maya and making sure that they had the space that they both needed. She’s able to run agility without losing focus and has done narcotics detection drills off leash in a room with 30 other dogs.
Zuni’s happier now, I’m happier now. Life goes on.
I may have found a new breeder to fall in love with lmao. Against The Wind Kennels. My kinda dogs. On the light side, athletic, and with a brain to back it up.
Dogs in order:
-CH A/A I "U Gotta B Jokin" SD1, SD2
-CH "It’s Beena Journey"
-CH/ACE "Dancing In Faith"
-CH/ ACE/UWPCH "Miss Dolly" SD1
(All pictures belong to Against The Wind Kennels)
I always thought that "pit bull" wasn't technically a breed- just a conglomeration of Staffies and bully-type dogs. How come things like "pure breed pit bull" are so common now?
The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) is a breed of dog. Depending on their sex, they can range anywhere between 30-60 pounds. They are lean, muscular doggos.
The term “Pit Bull” was initially used in the 19th century to describe American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, American Bulldogs, and Staffordshire Bull Terriers - i.e; Bulldog/Terrier mixes used for baiting, fighting, and hunting.
In today’s world where we treat these dogs strictly as pets, the term “Pit Bull” should really be phased out. It is very uncommon for one to find an actual purebred APBT in a shelter, but instead of being labeled a bully breed mix, they are just labeled “Pit Bulls.”
Why does it matter? Well, unfortunately people’s classification of Pit Bulls has crept into more than just those 4 breeds. Now people believe that any block headed dog is a Pit Bull! This is damaging to many dogs that are either in shelters that euthanize Pits, or in cities that ban them. The widespread notion that stocky looking dogs are Pit Bulls is not limited to dog fanciers, this common ideology is shared by officials that make the ignorant decision to euthanize these dogs.
For example, only one of these dogs is an APBT, but most of these dogs are mistaken, and euthanized, as Pit Bulls:
Bully breeds are tough to handle. They are loveable dogs, but IMO they require an experienced owner. Since they are so readily available in shelters, and the push for everyone to rescue them is so strong, they often end up in the hands of owners looking for beginner, or easy breeds, which attributes to the higher incidence of “Pit Bull” related attacks. You can read more on why that is, here.