anti zutara

“Zutara shippers aren’t bad”

Their opinions are just as shitty and questionable as their drawing skills. @honxrable and her shitty friends are cancers to everyone. Zutarian fragility is only going to get worse the more times Aaron Ehasz decides to crush their dreams, so we need to be aware of awful content like this being made and purge the fandom of it and its creators.

Get. These. People. Out. Of. The. Fandom.

“But why do you ship a hero with the villain??! Its so problema-“

“For the angst Karen. I need some drama before they fuck. It aint that deep.“

prince zuko was raised to be bad, but chose what was right. kilo wrench was raised to be good, but chose what was wrong. 

zuko is 16. kilo is 30 something.

zuko was brought up in an abusive household, maimed by his father, and cast out. kilo was brought up by loving parents.

zuko never physically, verbally, or emotionally assaulted/abused his enemies. his actions saw his enemies treated as equals, with respect. kilo murdered people for the hell of it and kept their ashes around for funzies. he also assaulted and harmed rey, holding his power over her because he could.

zuko is compassionate. kilo doesn’t know compassionate is a word.

zuko is not kilo wrench. kilo wrench is not zuko. 

they are nothing alike. stop comparing them. 

Ok, but like, am I the only one who thinks that bloodbending isn’t bad? I see all of these posts about how brave Katara was to avoid bloodbending and how great of Aang it was to outlaw it and how it reflects poorly on the Zutara dynamic that she bloodbent in front of Zuko but like ???????????

NO bending is inherently bad????

No one gave two shits about airbending being used to suffocate the Earth Queen or Bolin fuckin LAVABENDING, aka able to MELT PEOPLE down to nothing. Those alternative forms of bending aren’t intrinsically bad, even though they COULD be used for evil.

The same technique for suffocating someone with airbending could be used to resuscitate someone who wasn’t breathing. It could be used to help a newborn baby breathe. 

Lavabending can be used just as much for environmentally-beneficial reasons as it can for mass destruction.

Hell, even lightning bending was fine in the ATLA and LoK universe, but somehow bloodbending isn’t?

Can you imagine how quickly their healthcare would’ve advanced if Katara had been given the opportunity to use her abilities the way she was meant to? Hama only used them for violence because she spent her whole life trying to SURVIVE. It was all she knew.

Katara is a CARING bender. Her healing bending would’ve gone up 11000000000 points if she had learned to incorporate bloodbending. She could’ve learned how to heal blood illnesses, mend bones, prevent frostbite,  mend actual tissue. Katara could’ve invented MODERN SURGERY.

But somehow HER form of alternative bending is the only bad one?

Zutara-stans: “Bryan and Mike used Aang as a self-insert nice guy fantasy, forcing Kataang to happen instead of Zutara.”

Also Zutara-stans: *ship a cliche “girl likes the bad boy” relationship based only on looks to fulfill their own, objectively worse fantasy*

But like, i can’t really be the only one that considers “The Fortuneteller“ the second (or third)* most anti-kataang episode of the show?

(*Number one is without a doubt “The Ember Island Players“, number two or three, depending on my mood is “The Southern Raiders”)

Like, it’s an episode that dedicates 22 minutes and 43 seconds of it’s 22 minute and 59 second run-time to showing the audience how Aang’s crush is jut that: a crush.

It isn’t even subtle about it:

Her name is Meng, which is phonetically nearly identical to Aang, AS THE SHOW ACTUALLY TAKES TIME TO POINT OUT TO YOU (“That rhymes with Meng!“) and she’s two years younger then the object of her affection.

THIS IS NOT A SUBTLE PARALLEL PEOPLE

Like, it all but rubs in our faces how it’s superficial:

(It even plays the same music.)

Then it has them using the same technique in an attempt to flirt:

Meng: “Hey, Aang. Don’t you think that cloud looks like a flower?”

Aang: “Hey, Katara, don’t you think that cloud look like a flower?”

And getting dismissed.

Then the object of their affections shows complete and utter disinterest:

(Because, they aren’t actually interested at all.)

And so on.

And then this happens:

Meng: “You don’t like me, do you?”
Aang: “Of course I like you.“
Meng: “But not the way I like you.”
Aang: “Oh, I guess not.”
Meng: “It’s okay. It’s just really hard when you like someone, but they don’t think of you that way.”

Aang: “I know what you mean.”
Meng: “She’s beautiful, by the way.”
Aang: “Huh?”
Meng: “That Water Tribe girl. I can see why you like her so much. She’s sweet, she’s a bender and her hair seems so manageable.”

Aang: “Don’t worry. You’re going to meet a great guy who’s going to completely fall for you. I know it.”

And it’s just… such a GOOD and PURE scene? and such a good message to send to children? “You don’t like me the way i like you and, while it’s hard for me, that’s okay.“ What a wonderful thing to put in a children’s cartoon! Especially considering that we live in a world where “first-love-is-forever” is the norm.

I thought that those 16 seconds where Katara actually seems to consider him in a romantic light were there just so that they could milk the will-they-won’t-they for all it’s worth. I thought that there was just no way anyone could spend all that time telling one story, sending one message only to completely disregard it in the end. (aaand looooooool @mini-me what a fool i was, chakra opening rock anyone?)

Like, honestly, the first time i watched this episode I was completely convinced that this scene was foreshadowing the ultimate resolution of Aang’s crush on Katara: Aang realising that it’s one-sided and displaying emotional maturity and self-awareness. And giving his blessing for Katara to pursue other people.

Instead, the poor boy regresses completely, forces a kiss on her and is then rewarded for it by the narrative.

There is an entire episode of Avatar the Last Airbender where a terrifying old witch literally controls the blood running through people’s bodies, holds them prisoner, and makes them do her bidding. In one scene, she graphically kills a rat by taking the blood from inside it and squeezing the life out of it.

But you know, Zuko and Katara sharing a kiss and being a couple would’ve been too “dark and upsetting” for young children

Sometimes I think about how Bryke threw away Zutara with both hands and I just

ZUKO AND KATARA WERE CONSTANTLY PORTRAYED AS A TEAM WHEN ZUKO JOINED THE GANG

FIRST IN THE WHOLE OF SOUTHERN RAIDERS EPISODE

THEN WHEN THEY DID A PRACTICE DRILL OF AANG DEFEATING THE FIRE LORD 

THEN WHEN ZUKO ASKED KATARA TO COME WITH HIM TO BATTLE AZULA LIKE 

I JUST DON’T GET IT EVEN AFTER ALL THESE YEARS

THEY UNDERSTOOD EACH OTHER, SUPPORTED EACH OTHER, PROTECTED EACH OTHER, HAD SOME DEEP FUCKING CONVERSATIONS

ZUKO CARED SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT KATARA THOUGHT OF HIM AND WAS THE ONLY ONE IN TEH GANG TO GET HER. KATARA WAS THE FIRST ONE TO SEE SOMETHING GOOD IN ZUKO AFTER JUST ONE CONVERSATION EVEN THOUGH HE WAS STILL AT WAR WITH HIMSELF.

THEY HAD SUCH AMAZING CHEMISTRY LIKE THAT HUG STILL FUCKS ME UP AFTER ALL THESE YEARS LIKE A LEGIT WOULDN’T CHANGE IT FOR A KISS IT WAS SO INTIMATE AND LOVING AND MY MIND STILL CAN’T COMPREHEND HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WAS. 

FOR FUCKS SAKE HE TOOK A LIGHTNING BOLT FOR HER LIKE THAT BOY WAS READY TO DIE 

OH MY GOD I JUST GET SO MAD HONESTLY BRYKE HAD THIS GOLDMINE OF A LOVE STORY THAT WAS AMAZING AND THEY JUST THREW IT AWAY FOR A SELF INSERT CHILD WHO WASN’T EVEN PSYCHOLOGICALLY DEVELOPED ENOUGH TO RECOGNISE THAT KATARA WASN’T A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR REWARD THAT WAS OWED TO HIM OH MY GOD

anonymous asked:

Zutarians act like Katara's romance with Aang is to the detriment of her character but somehow one with Zuko wouldn't just put her in nurturing position for an older man. I am not for Kataang but I don't think any of the show's characters would NOT put Katara in the position of a nurturer and giver. She gives too much as it is. Except perhaps Toph but Toph is twelve, confused and has parental issues. What I'm trying to ask is what does Katara gain from Zutara except acceptance.

What Katara Would Gain from Zutara

[Edited to add “Bato of the Water Tribe”! Thanks, @ adifferentcupofzutara!]

Katara would gain a partner who would help her with household duties without being asked:

Rather than someone who leaves the chores to her while he shows off for his fangirls.

Katara: Watching you show off for a bunch of girls does not sound like fun.
Aαng: Well, neither does carrying your basket.

She would gain a partner who shares parental responsibilities …

Katara: Aαng, don’t walk away from this.


Zuko: Let him go. He needs time to sort it out by himself.

And acts like a father:

Zuko: Keep in mind, these are dual swords. Two halves of a single weapon. Don’t think of them as separate, because they’re not. They’re just two different parts of the same whole.

Rather than someone who IS a parental responsibility …

And acts like her son.

Katara: What do you think, Aαng? Do I act like a mom?
Aαng: Well, I…
Katara: Stop rubbing your eye and speak clearly when you talk!

Katara: My goodness! That doesn’t sound like our Kuzon.

Katara: I’ve been training Aαng for a while now. He really responds well to a positive teaching experience. Lots of encouragement and praise. Kind words. If he’s doing something wrong, maybe a gentle nudge in the right direction.

She would gain a partner who respects her personal boundaries: 

Katara: What are you doing?!
Zuko: Keeping rocks from crushing you.
Katara: Okay, I’m not crushed. You can get off me now.

Zuko [retracts his arm so Katara can move away from him]: I’ll take that as a thank you.

 Rather than someone who transgresses them.

Katara: Aαng, I’m sorry but right now,  I’m just a little confused.


Katara: I just said that I was confused!

Someone who sees her as an ally:

Zuko: I can handle Azula.
Iroh: Not alone. You’ll need help.
Zuko: You’re right. Katara, how would you like to help me put Azula in her place?

And not a possession.

Actor Zuko: Wait.  I thought you were the Avatar’s girl.

Aαng: [nods] 

Someone who waits for the right time to talk:

Katara: You look terrible. 
Zuko: I waited out here all night.

Rather than pushing her:

Katara: Because we’re in the middle of a war and we have other things to worry about. This isn’t the right time.
Aαng:  Well, when IS the right time?

Someone who understands how much she needs her family to be there …

Katara: Dad.
Hakoda: Hi, Katara.
Katara: How are you here? What is going on?

And puts their needs over his:

Sokka: No, I’m staying. You guys go. You’ve been here long enough.
Suki: I’m not leaving without you, Sokka.
Zuko: I’m staying too.

Rather than someone who disappears when she depends on him …


Katara: He left.
Hakoda: What?
Katara: Aαng. He just took his glider and disappeared. He has this ridiculous notion that he has to save the world alone. That it’s all his responsibility.
Hakoda: Maybe that’s his way of being brave.
Katara: It’s not brave. It’s selfish and stupid. We could be helping him. And I know the world needs him, but doesn’t he know how much that we need him too? How could he just leave us behind?

And puts his needs over theirs.

Sokka: This is the map to our father! You had it the whole time!? How could you?

She would not only gain a partner who, unlike her canon love interest, sympathizes with the loss of her mother:

Katara: Well, I just want you to be prepared for what you might see. The Fire Nation is ruthless. They killed my mother and they could have done the same to your people.
Aαng:  Just because no one has seen an airbender doesn’t mean the Fire Nation killed them all. They probably escaped.
Katara: I know it’s hard to accept.
Aαng: You don’t understand, Katara. The only way to get to an airbender temple is on a flying bison, and I doubt the Fire Nation has any flying bison. Right, Appa?

Katara: I don’t?! How dare you! You have no idea what this war has put me through. Me personally. The Fire Nation took my mother away from me.



Zuko: I’m sorry. That’s something we have in common.

Katara: But, we were too late. When we got there, the man was gone.  And so was she.
Zuko: Your Mother was a brave woman.

Katara:  I know.

But who trusts her to deal with anger and pain in HER way …

Rather than pestering her to do things HIS way.

Aαng: Katara, you sound like Jet.

Aαng: Katara, you do have a choice. Forgiveness. 

Aαng: It’s okay, because I forgive you.  That give you any ideas?

Aαng: Let your anger out and then let it go. Forgive him.

Aαng: You did the right thing. Forgiveness is the first step you have to take to begin healing. 

Ironically, a partner who understands that some things are more important than romance!

Aαng: Katara is in danger! I have to go.

Guru Pathik: No, Aαng! By choosing attachment, you have locked the chakra! If you leave now you won’t be able to go into the Avatar State at all!

Zuko: Stop! This isn’t about you. This is about the Fire Nation.

But who would still die for her in a heartbeat …

Rather than risk her life (and everyone’s) to retain his moral purity.

Most of all, she would gain someone who sees her for who she is:

Rather than who he wants her to be.

And who doesn’t try to change her to make her better for him.

ATLA AND LOK RANT

There will never be a day when I wake up and won’t be angry at the fact that both

  1. Zutara (theultimateship) wasn’t endgame even though they were literally perfect for one another, each others opposites, perfect ying/yang and both great chemistry and a mature realistic relationship.
  2. The Gaang was done dirty so bad, not even one of them was left off well (maybe Zuko but *cough cough, wasn’t with any of the gang and no uncle Iroh and probably married Mai so how good could he have been*)::
  • - Sokka was fucked over and just discarded and killed off with no explanation of why or when or how and that was that, we didn’t need to know any more apparently,
  • Toph was ruined (still cool but um her whole story line and how she was left in a goddamn swamp and written off as a bitchy psycho old lady and everything with her children?? She would have been the best mum bc look at her parents, she would have succeeded where they failed and she was always so wise so wtf happened!!),
  • Aang was left as “a bad father” and his whole personality and characterisation was just rewritten in his old age??? Like he didn’t care about them and it wasn’t explained why he treated them like that or what happened with Katara or anything about him in the gaang and he was just used as something to fuel the character development of his children rather than the great character he was?
  • Suki was literally dropped never heard of her again like where is she? where did she go? where did she come from cottoneyejoe? Never saw or heard about her in her old age and did she survive seeing as she was a warrior so there’s the chance she didn’t but she wasn’t a main main but she was still important!
  • Katara was the worst as she was just denounced to a simple watertribe wife who was treated like she hadn’t accomplished anything and wasn’t allowed a proper say (SHE SAVED THE WORLD YOU PIECES OF SHIT) and her new character just didn’t care? didn’t fight them? ATLA Katara would have challenged them all and did challenge anyone who put her in that position but LOK Katara was just made into a fricking house wife for Aang and I’m so pissy about it still,

They all deserved better and they were more of a family to me than my own family when I was younger and they were done dirty and I will be 108 and hating on their ruination still, just watch me.

Oma and Shu were not narrative parallels to Zuko and Katara

Yes yes I know it’s so very easy to make the whole “Opposite sides of a war!” “Forbidden lovers!” comparisons (even though Zuko and Katara objectively never had a Forbidden Love dynamic, if anything they would have been Enemies-To-Friends-To-Lovers), but hear me out.

The basic and essential narrative elements of the Oma-Shu story are:

  1. Opposite sides of a war.
  2. Fell in love.
  3. Met up in secret.
  4. One of them is killed.
  5. The survivor unleashes hell.

(For the last two points we actually had a bit of pre-foreshadowing for the Oma-Shu story in the form of Tui and La.  Remember Koizilla?  The Water elemental getting pissed off and raging on the Fire Nation in grief is going to be important later.)

The only actual component Zuko and Katara had that was similar to Oma and Shu’s was the fact that they were on opposite sides of a war.  This similarity might well satisfy some fans who are, let’s just say, a little overzealous to find narrative “proof” for Zuko/Katara in the text but going past that initial shallow archetypal surface reading into any kind of objective scrutiny reveals that the supposed “parallel” falls apart.

I’ll explain.

How does Oma and Shu’s love story start?

“They met on top of the mountain that divided their two villages.”

So.  The two were basically strangers who encountered each other in “neutral territory”, had good first impressions of each other free of the bias of their villages’ enmity, and hit it off.  We presume.

Right away the Zuko/Katara comparison dissolves, because Shu did not invade Oma’s village with a small military force to terrorize her and her people.

Continuing on…

“The villages were enemies so they could not be together.”

As mentioned, this is the only part in which Zuko and Katara are similar to Oma and Shu, and even then it’s a thin comparison because while Oma and Shu were all, “We are in love but we’re supposed to be enemies!” Zuko and Katara were… well… Actually Enemies.  The thing getting in the way of them being together was not merely the war, it was the fact that Katara genuinely loathed him and considered him the face of the enemy and Zuko barely paid attention to her except as a means of getting to Aang or as an obstacle in the way of his getting to Aang.

This is the bit where shippers get a little too excited because, “OMG!  Red and blue!  Color symbolism!”  Ignoring of course that Oma was also wearing yellow just a few seconds earlier and wears gray just a few seconds after and also that if we’re taking the whole red/blue color symbolism legitimately that would make the Oma figure Zuko.  This is too obviously false because Katara never “dies” during the war and Zuko doesn’t put on a rageful display of bending power in grief so most shippers just kind of… ignore that part and rely solely on the inaccurate broad surface read.

Well okay, but surely there must be other parts of the story that Zuko and Katara meet, right?

Nope.  They don’t spend any time or effort trying to reach across the divide between their two sides to meet.  Zuko gets hurt in the series finale and if we’re reeeaally reaching I guess we could claim that as his symbolic “death” but Katara’s reaction is hardly the emotional, grief-stricken lashing out that Oma did.

In fact the two times I can recall Katara unleashing some serious bending power because someone close to her “died” was her whole ninja mission to confront the man who killed her mother and before that–

Oh.

OH.  Lol.

Am I saying that the Oma-Shu story is really foreshadowing for Aang/Katara instead?

Yes.  Yes I am.

Obviously it’s not a note-for-note parallel, wouldn’t dream of claiming it is.  But they hit more of the beats than Zuko/Katara, with the added bonus of also being echoed/foreshadowed in Tui and La–”push” and “pull” soulmates who work in harmony…

…and who experience an incident where their Sky elemental mate dies…

…and the Water elemental goes apeshit and drowns Fire Nation soldiers in large waves…

…before the beloved is reborn.

So really, think about it.  Which ship is really the one where they meet and fall in love but can’t be together because of a war–

–which leads to one of them being killed–

–releasing a “powerful display of bending” from the devastated survivor?

Hint: It’s the one whose romance theme is the same music cue as the one for the story of the two lovers. XD

The fact that the ATLA writers were originally making the Southern Raiders episode “too shippy” for Bryke and Bryke had to constantly tell them to make it more and more toxic to prevent any sort of shipping moments makes me almost as happy as the fact that Bryke’s attempts still backfired

  • Zutara stan: Aang is so entitled and possessive...
  • Zuko: *sees another guy talking to his girlfriend, Mai*
  • Zuko: *runs up to them and pushes the guy back*
  • Zuko: *yells at Mai for talking with someone that isn't him*
  • Mai: *dumps Zuko and is visibly upset*
  • Zuko: *later mocks Mai and then tries to lay his hands on her two different times*
  • Zutara stan: ... Zuko, on the other hand, would never-

Bryke:

-Shits on sexism in the first episode of the show
-Has the Kyoshi Warriors literally beat the sexism out of Sokka
-Has part of a main character’s arc (Sokka) have to do with realizing women are equal to men
-Makes Katara, Toph, and Azula the most powerful benders of their respective elements
-Has a female defeat one of the main villains
-Has powerful female nonbenders like Suki, June, Mai, and Ty Lee that kick the shit out of benders
-Shows Katara actively standing up against sexist traditions that have been around for centuries…and winning
-Has Hama leave an arranged marriage and have a successful life without being forced to marry a guy
-Fights to have LOK be a female-centric show, and…
-…makes LOK a female-centric show
-Has world leaders in LOK be both male and female, such as Izumi, Eska, Su, Kuvira, and the Earth Queen being major leaders
-Has a girl x girl relationship
-Shows women in STEM and business fields (Asami)
-Has women in other leading roles (the shaman in the Fire Nation, Lin being police chief, Jinora being an airbending master, Kuvira leading the Zaofu guard, etc.)
-Portrays LGBTQ+ women of color without exploiting them for fanservice
-Shows women not taking shit from men (Zhu Li with Varrick, Asami with her dad, Jinora with Tenzin, Eska with Unalaq, etc.)
-In general portrays women as equal to men and makes them interesting characters with depth and quality arcs

Zutara-Stans:

-Call Bryke sexist

Me:

-facepalms