I like when someone says, that Stefan fell in love with Elena, just because she looked like Katherine, but Damon not. Even though Stefan always said she’s not like Katherine and refused every connection that Elena had with her. Damon was the one, who constantly compared Elena and Katherine and claimed, how they are alike, when he saw Elena first, he called her Katherine, when he and Stefan talked about her, Damon told she’s like Katherine and later told to Elena she had a lot in common with Katherine, not just physical appearance. Everyone can have reasons, why is DE better than SE for them, but this seems like they didn’t even watch.
Screw TVD! Check Out A Real Vampire Show! From Dusk Till Dawn.
For all of those who hate TVD, and those who were pissed off at the shitshow called a finale, and those who were tired of watching characters get mistreated constantly (Bonnie, Stefan, Tyler, and even Enzo (he had such great potential)) go on Netflix and/or Putlocker.com, and check out a real vampire show called “From Dusk Till Dawn.”
They have 2 badass very sexy handsome brothers that are truly ride or die for each other:
Seriously, ya’ll can keep gawking at Ian Somerhalder who’s not even that handsome he looks like a creep. Ya’ll don’t know what ya’ll missing out on with this sexy beast.
Look at the sad puppy. :(
They have the true myth, legend, the baddest bitch of them all Kisa/Santanico Pandemonium:
I’m so gay for her.
They have a true compassionate, caring person who’s selfless and it is shown not said (I’m talking about you Elena “You’re compassion is a gift” bullshit ass crybaby Gilbert):
And she cares about her brother (Not that I can say the same for you Elena):
Speaking of you have her badass handsome brother who’s not a major crybaby, and did I mention he kicks ass!:
Jeremy Gilbert did deserve better, but…he annoyed the shit out of me.
They have a cool, awesome, diabolical, actually funny, sexy villain:
Si papi ;)
They have intimidating, scary, and cool villains:
At least they kept the villains as villains, and didn’t give them cheesy ass sob stories to make us sympathize with them.
They have a badass hunter called “The Peacekeeper”:
Take that Alaric.
Not to mention they did an awesome Hell storyline that was actually done right,(And you got a chance to learn about the whole “end of the world” prediction in another culture) and we had a badass awesome demon that will truly bring Hell on Earth:
So Cade, Sybil, and Seline can all kiss Amaru’s ass and bow down to her the true Queen of Hell because she was da bomb!
Last but not least, the Culbera’s (basically Mexican vampires) can kick the “vampires” (if that’s what they are anymore. I mean seriously the show doesn’t even treat them like vampires anymore they treat them like people who happen to drink blood. They literally stop acting like vampires!) from Vampire Diaries ass any fucking day of the week:
Oh, and by the way….
I had to do it. But seriously guys check this show out you won’t be disappointed. This show is amazing and has kickass vampires (well culberas), and has awesome characters and villains that are not hyped up just so they can be a let down. Check it out!
The fact that Julie tricked the entire fandom like this is just fucking disrespectful.
This show has a million problems but the creator’s obsession with Elena is the worst of them.
She hasn’t been in the show for 2 years and she is still at the center of it all.
Since Plec loves Dullena and Kevin loves Stelena, I’m pretty sure we’re going to get a Delena endgame and an acknowledgement of Elena being Stefan’s love of his life and then a Stefan death. Which is bullshit. And such bad writing.
There’s pretty much nothing they could do this last four episodes to fix the pain they have caused the Bonnie (Bonenzo and Bamon) fandom and the Stefan (Steroline) fandom.
What personality? In these cases, it’s fairly blatant that the author is just writing the character for amazing stuff to happen to instead of a character that actually exists as a person. Obviously, this is only a Mary Sue trait if what happens gives the character special powers,fantastic romances, or somehow lets her be a big damned heroine ; otherwise it’s just another faceless first-person perspective.
The personality of a Mary Sue — if she has one — is not nearly as important as how other characters react to it. No matter how shy or socially awkward Mary Sue is supposed to be, other characters will be drawn to her and inexplicably prefer her company over that of anyone else. All of her ideas are brilliant, all of her jokes are funny, all of her advice is an amazing breakthrough. People will trust her immediately, or very quickly, and feel more comfortable talking to her than to anyone else (even their own family or their significant other), even if she hasn’t done or said anything to make them feel that way about her.
If another character doesn’t feel this way about Mary Sue, it’s usually to portray them as either bad or just an idiot.
Mary Sue doesn’t have to actually do anything to be considered a good person—she just is good. By extension, anything she does is good, and even when she does nothing she brings more good into the world simply by existing than any other character ever could. Goodness just seems to seep out of her body like radiation.
All 3 of them suffer from bland personalities, and are praised for being brave, amazing, compassionate, etc. Here are some examples:
She loves everyone and forgives them all for their imperfections. Plus she is willing to save, protect or risk all for the sake of someone she has met just seconds ago.
Occasionally a complete asshole, especially when she’s supposed to be all of the above. Nobody will call her out on her abrasive, casually abusive behavior. Strong badass characters who would normally rip someone’s spleen out for squeezing the toothpaste from the wrong end, are instantly cowed and become meek, spineless Wangst factories as soon as she “puts them in their place.”
Full-on Jerk Sues will routinely be flippant, snide, and rude, yet will be treated as a charmingly sarcastic character. They will flout authority as a matter of course and never suffer the consequences. Even if said authority figure is known for a tough stance on disrespect, they will either gamely ignore the Sue’s challenge to their authority, or—worse still—praise her for her “cheekiness” or “boldness.”
Now that (Jerk Sue) applies more to Hayley:
Her “major flaws” will be stubbornness and a bad temper. These will only ever help her, never hurt her — because she’s always right, so whatever cause she dedicates herself to with such stubbornness will be a good cause, and whoever she loses her temper with will deserve it.
Sometimes they’ll mess her up once so she can learn an important lesson. And then they’ll help her for the rest of the story.
A character who’s described as being blunt to the point of rudeness or tactlessness will be praised for being “refreshingly honest” or for “telling it like it is.” Only the bad guys or other unsympathetic characters will ever say, “What a bitch.”
BTW, in one of the gifs Hayley is pregnant and is picking fights with a vampire. Not to mention when she fought Mikael while she was 9 months pregnant. You couldn’t get more Mary Sue than that.
Skilled in a type of martial arts in a setting or with a backstory that doesn’t allow for it. Not regularly skilled either; she could kick the ass of the resident ninja of her choice.
And with all this — don’t expect the Green-Eyed Monster to show up. Envy appears in the Mary Sue’s life only as a means of angst, and so does not appear just because the Mary Sue has everything.
Alternately, anybody who does get jealous is a bitch and is wrong. This is typically a single other character and may be Die for Our Ship or for other reasons. (Caroline jealous of Elena in Season 1, Alicia jealous of Lana in Smallville)
Mary Sue always has excellent fashion sense. Even if she’s meant to be a rough-and-tumble Tomboy type who doesn’t care about that sort of thing, she will always look effortlessly beautiful and other characters, often males, will frequently talk about how they like that she isn’t as high maintenance as other girls (if she has a female rival they might mention her specifically).
If anything a Mary Sue typically has a fashion sense of a teenager throwing random things together, but she makes it look sexy or badass. Here are the receipts:
No matter what she’s been through, Mary Sue will never look ugly. The worst she’ll ever be reduced to is Unkempt Beauty, and even if she is somehow injured and scarred or handicapped, the scar will always be a cool-looking, Bond villain-type scar that serves as more of a decoration than anything else. Plus, when she overcomes the handicap, she will be just as amazing as she was before getting injured (or better).
Likewise, if Mary Sue has a birthmark, it will be in a significant shape (heart, half moon, etc.) and never in a place that compromises her beauty. Expect the Mary Sue to think the birthmark makes her unattractive. This will be despite the fact that other characters insist that the birthmark makes her more attractive, especially in comparison to physically flawless characters. (Hayley’s Crescent Moon Birthmark)
Magic jewelry. It might be used as a Green Lantern Ring to justify her abilities. Bonus points if it glows. (Elena’s vervain necklace created by a witch, Lana’s kryptonite necklace)
Now onto Canon Character Relationships:
Some Wish Fulfillment with a character you think is hot isn’t that bad. But a Mary Sue seems to grab their attention straight away. Even if they already have a stable love interest in canon, that relationship will be treated as either non-existent, or the couple will be split up in some way. (Elena and Stefan were retconned so Damon and Elena could happen, Gia and Elijah were completely ignored so Elijah could go back to pining after Hayley)
Bonus points if the love interest stands aside or sacrifices himself/herself so Mary Sue can be happy, or is twisted intoa hateful person to justify Mary Sue breaking up the canon couple. (Stefan becoming a ripper/no humanity in Season 3 in order to breakup Stelena)
Even the characters who don’t have sex with her give her more heed than they normally would. Characters she likes can’t stop praising her positive traits. Characters she doesn’t like can’t stop making themselves look bad by insulting her. Even if she’s not physically present, that just means everyone can speak “freely” about her. In addition to the previous scenarios, at least one character will confess to being secretly be in love with her. There may be just “something special” about her, with no particular reason why anybody would think that. In the worst-case scenarios, they pay no heed to their own responsibilities or lives, only to Sue
.Bonus points: the disliked character behaving badly toward the Sue eventually sees the “error” of his/her ways and grows to love Sue as much as everyone else does.More bonus points: the bad behavior and treatment of the Sue by disliked characters is portrayed as jealousy.
Previously-established personalities change in reaction to her. Arrogant gimps may admire her for everything. Sweet, mild-mannered characters (that she and the author don’t like) insult and degrade her. A leader with responsibilities pays attention only to her. Young, reckless characters who would never settle down just yet will become totally reliable. Evil characters follow her around like a puppy or seem uncharacteristically obsessed with her. Extremely competent characters become stumbling buffoons who require her help to do anything. The characters in general just seem unnaturally focused on her, positive or negative.
She may have relationships of some kind with multiple major canon characters. For example, she’s the secret daughter of A who gave her up to be adopted by B’s parents, making her his sister, and she goes on to have a passionate affair with C, remaining friendly with him even though she goes on to marry D, and she’s E’s best friend, F’s closest advisor…and so on.
Mary Sues tend to have multiple love interest either currently or pre-season:
Lana and Whitney
Lana and Jason
Lana and Clark
Lana and Lex
Matt and Elena (pre-season, but Matt was still in love with Elena in Season 1)
Sympathetic Sue has an unusually Dark and Troubled Past to excess, but other subtypes often have them too, just to emphasize how brave and special she is to live through it. This past is never really a point in the story, just dropped casually into the conversation to get attention. Alternatively it’s written badly owing to not doing much research. How much she Wangsts about it is usually out of proportion with how bad it really is. (Elena and Lana)
Redeems the villain through her overwhelming goodness. Might be through Redemption Equals Sex (bonus points if it leads into IKEA Erotica). Even more bonus points if the story decides to mention that this is her loss of virginity. Yet more bonus points if the villain comments on how awesome she is in bed despite said virginity. (Elena and Damon, Hayley being the incubator for Klaus’s redemption)
Perform a Heroic Sacrifice as a way to prove that she’s Too Good for This Sinful Earth. Bonus points if the story goes out of the way to ensure she doesn’t leave an ugly corpse (whether it be by a method that doesn’t involve external physical damage or by her body not being recovered). More bonus points if it turns out to be a Disney Death. (Elena in Season 2)
She will often have a tragic family life. Coming from an abusive background is quite common. Her mother is often either dead or a Wicked Stepmother. In the latter case, she will most likely be in Cinderella Circumstances. Her father is frequently an Overprotective Dad (or in some cases, a Wicked Stepfather). Orphans are also very common, as is Parental Abandonment. (Elena is adopted by her Aunt and Uncle, her biological parents are assholes who want to kill the Salvatore brothers. They eventually end up dead. Lana’s parents die from meteor crash, and it turns out that she is adopted. Hayley’s biological parents are killed by Jackson’s grandfather as a result of a civil war in the Crescent Pack. Her adopted parents kicked her out at 13 when she transformed into a werewolf in front of them)
In visual media, the camera just can’tstop staring at her. Every angle is seen several times and her every action gets a heavy emphasis with close-up shots galore. Other characters don’t get to be in the frame alone if it can be helped.
When the character is off-screen, if ever, the other characters are still talking about her, taking it as a chance to speak “honestly” about the new girl. If they like her, they sing her praises; if not, their dislike will be taken as jealousy, as her “haters” will only talk about petty issues (Sue’s background, perceived promiscuity, etc.), and not genuine gripes (massive attention whoring, for starters).
Reading these tropes I can honestly say that Hayley, Elena, and Lana are the poster children of these tropes. Reading all of these tropes I couldn’t help but think about how all 3 of them fit them so well. And that is honestly sad because writers write these characters as if they’re badass, awesome, compassionate, strong, and just want to be loved, and is what girls should look up to. When in reality that is not the case, Mary Sues are misogynistic, anti-feminist, self-insert characters. They are what writers imagine themselves to be, and place themselves into the story making up this character that is so perfect and badass, but has a tragic past. Mary Sues are what girls fantasize what they want to be in their favorite TV shows or movies, and they completely ruin the story. Mary Sues are the reason why people can’t stand watching a certain TV shows at times because they take up all the screen time and everything has to be about them. People say things like “Oh, but she’s the main character so it has to be about her.” when in reality that’s not how being a protagonist works. Yes they are the key center to the story, but you know what makes a good TV show is when they focus on the side characters or the supporting characters. For example True Blood, even though everything was supposed to be about Sookie the show still payed attention to the side characters and as a result people had a reason to sit through Sookie’s bullshit. Because the side characters had the same amount of screen time as her, and at times the show didn’t bring up Sookie at times. You would think she was a side character because the side characters got more attention than her, but nope she wasn’t. Being a protagonist is one thing, a protagonist is key central to the story but they still are no the center of attention or a Mary Sue, but being a Mary Sue is a completely different thing. Being a Mary Sue means you are bland, dull, lifeless. You are so perfect you have all of the guys fawning over you, and you can be a damsel in distress at times but then you become a badass bitch. You have some sort of supernatural lineage, and all of the girls that trash talk you are just jealous and want what you have. Everything revolves around you!
And the CW doesn’t seem to get the message that others are getting…
PEOPLE HATE YOUR FUCKING MARY SUES! THEY RUIN YOUR TV SHOWS!
Warning: This is Anti-Delena. Don’t say I didn’t warn you so leave
I’ve noticed that Delena stans called Stelena “cliche”, and honestly I laugh. Yes they have their cliche moments, but are they cliche overall? Hell no! Delena is just full of cliches and if you wanna know how here’s why…
Good Girl Falls For Bad Boy:
Elena Gilbert described as “compassionate, caring, empathetic, kind, intelligent, beautiful, friendly”. She’s the star student and is the most selfless person ever (note the sarcasm)
Damon Salvatore described as “a sociopath, narcissist, vicious, and remorseless” ladies man
Through Elena’s good grace and purity she changes Damon into a “better” man, and they fall in love. (Again note the sarcasm) Yeah, so that’s one cliche but boy oh boy are we just getting started.
Over dramatic Love Declarations (Which are just empty words with no meaning behind them, they’re only said to be dramatic):
Christ how many do they have?!
They’re like those romantic comedy cliches. I mean do I have to pull out the receipts:
Even those romantic comedies are more heartwarming and sweet than Dullena is.
Side note can we talk about how Nina’s sex scenes with Ian looks like she’s just acting. That she’s trying to make it look like it’s pleasurable and oh so orgasmic, but it’s just acting. With her sex scenes with Stefan her face looked like she was in pure, bliss pleasure. Receipts:
Anyways, Over The Top Kisses:
Rain kiss ✔️
Slamming into each others faces ✔️
Jumping into each others arms ✔️
For some reason whenever they kiss it’s almost as if they are never in sync with each other. It’s always messy and sloppy.
Hell They Even Went Through Their Own Amnesia Plot Line:
When in fresh hell did The Vampire Diaries become a goddamn soap opera?! Elena loses her memories so Damon does everything he can to get her to remember their “amazing” love story! Hilarious! This was nothing but lazy writing, and the writers trying to show that Delena can overcome any obstacle such as fate and amnesia, but they can’t overcome Damon not resisting compulsion, Damon infected with the ripper virus and almost killing Katherine in Elena’s body, Damon and Elena breaking up 5 million times because “Oh, we’re bad for each other.”, and Elena wanting to be just friends with Damon but they can’t because if she ain’t offering him up any sex even while they’re broken up then he doesn’t want her around him. WOW!
Last but not least the whole enemies to lovers cliche:
Delena is honestly a ship that is not only delusional, dull, abusive, but it is full of big fat cliches. Enemies to lovers, Good Girl Falls for Bad Boy, Over The Top Cliche Sex Scenes, Over The Top Cliche Kisses, Over Dramatic Love Declarations. Delena is just a joke and it makes me pity those out there who want a relationship like this, cause if you do then God bless you. You will not make it far in life especially with pieces of shits like Damon Salvatore, and dumb girls like Elena Gilbert for even allowing Damon to be in her life knowing what he’s done and that he doesn’t care. It seems that even with the show over logic still has to be pried into Delena stans heads about this abusive, toxic, dull, cliche ship that was written by a 40 year old fangirl trapped in a 16 year old’s body is horrible. Nuff said.
Jeremy/Anna was my favorite Jeremy ship, just putting that out there now. I never cared much about he and Bonnie together because imo they were a boring couple. I felt the connection so much more with him and Anna.
I also really love Steroline - it’s just a beautiful ship in general as cliche as falling for your best friend is; all the parallels and foreshadowing with these two just kill me. Everyone who says this ship ‘came out of nowhere’ really need to check themselves tbh. There was a time I was really, really, in love with Forwood too but TVD kind of ruined that ship for me after they had Caroline sleep with Klaus when he’d killed Tyler’s mother. Knowing that she did that, the thought of them being together or getting back together just didn’t seem right to me anymore (so thank you tvd, for ruining a great ship for your fanservice). As for Caroline/Klaus I think they had(have?) potential but he’s done a lot of fucked up shit to her and the people she cares about, and really hasn’t atoned for any of it. It’s like Damon, and all the people he’s hurt that ELENA cares about…(It’s always been a mystery to me how someone could ship K/C but hate D/E or vice versa lmao)
And speaking of that, my other favorite ship: Bamon. Back in like, season three I wondered why anyone would even ship this because the two hardly interacted at all. At some point though I read the books, and book!Bamon became like a hardcore otp for me. However, I kept that ship strictly to the books until season six happened. I think the moment that really won me over was the ‘There’s hope for you’ scene - because Damon had lived life being told over and over he was a monster (’there’s no good left in damon’) and he never seemed to believe that he could be better. Nobody else believed in him, so he didn’t believe in himself. But then along comes Bonnie, pointing out the one difference: He feels remorse, and that makes him different than someone than Kai. It means there’s hope for him and it means that he CAN change. But at the same time, Bonnie never pushed him to change either.
I used to ship Damon and Elena. At some point, I didn’t even mind Stefan/Elena either. But in S03 I got so tired of the love triangle that both of those ships became kind of… disgusting to me. With Stefan/Elena, the relationship was very one sided. I feel like most people only shipped them because of the intensity of Stefan’s love for Elena, but failed to see that she didn’t reciprocate that. Elena treated Stefan like absolute garbage and I just wasn’t here for that. And with Damon, she became just… really selfish. I hate how people are always giving her credit for ‘making him a better man’ when she really didn’t. If Elena made Damon better, he wouldn’t have been killing Whittemores while they were still together. Not only that, but Elena only seemed to want Damon to be a better man for her own sake. The ‘What does that say about me?’ line when Caroline goaded her to come clean about her feelings for Damon early S03 and the ‘I don’t want you to be what other people think that you are!’ during their fight scene shows that clear as day. Elena needs Damon to be ‘good’ so she doesn’t have to feel like an awful person for having feelings for him. She doesn’t want him to be good for the sake of being good, she wants him to be good because it reflects poorly on her for being in a relationship with him if he isn’t.
So if Elena is confirmed back in the next two episodes, What does that mean for Bonnie? They better find a loophole so they both can live because I will be livid if they kill my favorite character, Bonnie Bennett, just to return Elgar for one episode!