How much agency do former Alma Torran chieftains retain as djinns?
Now that the final arc has started taking us into deeper discussions about the rukh system, Alma Torran, and “freeing the new world from Alma Torran,” I think now would be a good time to revisit fundamental questions about the dungeon system and the djinns who are now in charge of the Sacred Palace. I’ve simply updated this post with anime screencaps, mangacaps, new questions & details, and some corrections. Enjoy!
I’ve always found it sad & disturbing that djinns seem
to have no agency after choosing a king.
We know very littleabout what any if the djinns think or feel about anything regarding how they’ve been used since Ugo created the dungeon system. I imagine Vinea felt awful
when she was used to wound Ugo & was about to be used to kill
TINFOIL HAT CONSPIRACY:Letting her lovesick teenage king vessel test drive her kick-ass new toy on Ugo was NOT part of Vinea’s original game plan.
I doubt Barbatos was happy about Muu using him to attack
Aladdin. In both cases, a human had to intervene to save Aladdin’s life. I find it hard to believe ANY of the djinns
would willingly kill Aladdin out of loyalty to their king candidate. Neither Vinea nor Barbatos had the opportunity to speak up in problematic combat situations.
PICTURED ABOVE:a friendly sparring match between a prince and his retainer… Whatever, I’m sure Barbatos was totally on board.
On the other hand, Amon got to complain
about not wanting Alibaba to get another djinn while Alibaba was in a
non-combat situation. The circumstances in which they’re able to communicate with their vessels seems to be rather inconsistent. Are they really only able to speak up in a non-combat situation? Do they really have no say about who they’re used to kill, but only complain about working with other djinns?
Aladdin‘s fetus was the only thing Ugo
was able to use to keep them from giving up while he created a new
world. The chieftains agreed to become djinns out of loyalty to Solomon’s son.
system in which former Alma Torran chieftains who swore absolute loyalty
to King Solomon can be used to kill Solomon’s son is fatally flawed.
It hasn’t been made clear just
how aware they are of what’s going on in the world.
We don’t know the how often they’re conscious in their dungeons, if at
They don’t know who raised their dungeons or why. Zepar didn’t seem to
know or care about the civil strife his dungeon was causing in
Heliohapt. Does his opinion really even matter when a child magi can
shut him down at will? Why concern yourself with current events at all
in that case?
After 1,000 years in his dungeon, Zagan thought the whole idea of picking a king
candidate was bullshit based on his knowledge of how humans treat each other
…until we find out the Zagan above a doppleganger. Amon thinks the creature’s statements are consistent enough with the real Zagan’s views to warrant using Alibaba’s magoi to emerge from his vessel on his own.
Both Zagan and his dungeon creature doppelganger stated that they “really humans,” the only species in Ugo’s creation. I’ll grant you that Zagan had no control over what his creatures were doing (and that’s a problem in and of itself.)
They were still Zagan’s creations.
Do the creatures have an idea of what’s going on outside the dungeon or
is their knowledge based on information from kidnapped villagers? And
why kidnap villagers at all? Did Zagan instruct them to gather intelligence?
I don’t think it’s atotal coincidence that so many Tran villagers (i.e. direct descendants of Zagan’s former oppressors) were trapped in the dungeon. sure the dungeon was near a Tran village but that looks like a lot of people down there. The dungeon creatures really seemed to be going out of their way to kidnap the “humany-ist” humans in the world.
Just how much did Zagan have to do with the way villagers were targeted?
If he had no role, than that leave’s Ugo’s original dungeon design as
the culprit. That doesn’t seem likely given how much he favored
humans/the Tran tribe when he created the new world, and the general
tradition of people having to enter dungeons at will.
The real Zagan still hate-vomited on everyone except Aladdin. That suggest that he truly does hate generally hate humans. When you take this all together, Zagan’s attitude suggests that some djinns have come to regret the decision they made to become djinns over last
Zagan & Amon’s brief argument in
Zagan’s dungeon also suggests that djinns are
what other djinns are up to in their dungeons.
I wonder if any of the djinns in the story we’ve met are serving a
second or third king vessel. After their king dies and
returns to their dungeons, do they get together and bitch about king
vessels who were total fuck-ups?
I wonder how many are as burnt out as Yunan?
How seriously should we take the SnB omake where Valefor is annoyed
sharing a living space with “straight laced” Baal, who seemed to think
of Valeor as his pet cat?
Why do they have the perception of sharing a
home when one is bound to a sword and the other a necklace? Is it
hinting at something important or just pure comic relief like the omake
where teen!Sinbad shows off his ability to surf & sing karaoke in a
talent competition? Just what are they doing in their vessels when thier KV is not equipped? For example:
Do they watch thier kings poop?
What horrors have Sinbad’s djinns seen when he wears them during a a quickie?
laugh along with Kouha when he tells bitchy jokes?
What if Dantalion fucking hates pigeons?
aside, the question of what djinns do in thier MVs leads me to wonder
how a KV can cultivate such a strong sense of loyalty that they would be
willing to directly rebel against Ugo, and by extension, King Solomon. It’s not that hard to imagine a djinn breaking their oath of absolute
fealty after 1,000 years if they were interacting with the world in
their original forms.
On the other hand, Sinbad may have devoted unusual amount of time and effort towards communing with
his djinns as he mastered each equip. Maybe he hadto
during the year he spent with Yambala (when
he lost the ability to djinn equip after absorbing a massive amount of
black rukh when Sindria 1.0 was destroyed). Maybe they all thought he
so impressive that they were willing to rebel against the system a bit
from the beginning, or they may have simply thought absolute obedience to their king
vessel trumped anything & everything else. Who knows?
I’m a bit skeptical
about that last option upon examining the scene where Kouen’s djinns begged him to be more gentle with
Aladdin. Perhaps Sinbad’s djinns would have reacted more apathetically. Agin, who the hell knows?
tl;dr: Djinns are people too and we know jack shit about how they feel about anything.
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