i really hope the show doesn't go down the let's redeem a rapist route again. i know you're a regina stan but she is canonically a rapist and she never paid for her crime and neither did zelena and both of them became heroes, were redeemed. like for once the show needs to actually punish and not reward the rapist (in both previous cases the victim also wound up dead and one of them by the hand of their rapist no less)
just so we’re clear this isn’t an attack on you because you’re a regina stan, i’m not coming into your inbox to upset you or whatever but the wish!hook situation of getting deceived into sleeping with gothel/the non con thing there just reminded me of how poorly rape/sexual assault storylines were handled before, the show has a bad track record and this is one of regina’s crime, it’s not the only one and i don’t think it’s wrong to talk about it in context
Okay dear… let’s talk about the show and it’s terrible track record with sexual consent.
Regina and Graham: The writers have explicitly said that she didn’t rape Graham because she didn’t use his heart for that. This shows a clear lack of understanding of how consent works because he didn’t have a choice but to be with her. She is a rapist. There are arguments to be made that she as an absolute monarch had sexual rights to him. I don’t think the writers thought that far into it. I think they were giggling too much about him being a sex slave (Kitsis does so in the 1.22 episode commentary). There are questionable circumstances in how much choice he had in Storybrooke as well. The writers say he had free will. But he also didn’t know who she was and she did.
Regina and Leopold: There are those who believe Regina had a choice to walk away from the marriage after she pushed Cora through the mirror. I do not believe that is realistic given Rumple’s interest in her and the consequences we know a young woman like her would face if she humiliated the king. We do know that Leopold was prepared to do Bad Things™ to a man who gave her hope for love years later so he doesn’t seem like a man who would have taken that well. His jealousy is also evidence that the anti-Regina head canon that she never had sex with Leopold is wrong. In this case people making the extraordinary claim that a husband never slept with his wife are the ones who have to show proof not the people who are arguing the much more likely thing that a man doesn’t marry a woman a third his age to play chess with her. Especially one who is fully aware that he’s marrying his former lover’s daughter. Given her reaction and the fact that someone doesn’t rape a man as their first sexual act then Regina was also raped. Now the culture of the Enchanted Forest seems to be that a husband has the right to sex with his wife. But if we’re going to play that cultural card to excuse Leopold you have to accept the one that says the Queen has the right to the bodies of her subjects with Graham. And none of us really wants to be that terrible a person do we?
Anyone who had sex during the curse with someone they wouldn’t ordinarily have slept with is an issue of sexual consent to be laid at the feet of anyone involved in the curse casting (i.e. Regina and Rumple).
Rumple’s relationship with Lacey and any sexual intercourse they had while he was not attempting to wake her up is highly questionable given that he was awake and aware that this is not who Belle would want to be. He knows TLK isn’t going to work so it’s very sketchy.
Emma and Neal’s relationship relies entirely on knowing Neal’s age at the time of their relationship. Which we do not know. A prop wanted poster which is full of factually inaccurate information is not evidence. Nor is what age MJR “looked” because JMo didn’t look 17 either.
Hook’s references to penetration during a fight that were played off as a joke by Colin don’t change the context of the writing was a rape threat. He also allows Rumple to believe Milah is being gang raped by his crew. And then there is the infamous line about using alcohol to get women to have sex being one of his tactics. Hook did commit objective sexual assault when he was arrested after he kissed Emma in New York. There is no “I was trying for TLK” lope holes if we’re excluding the cultural ones from the Enchanted Forest.
Zelena kissed Rumple while he was her prisoner. We know they didn’t have sex but the fact that Rumple was “playing along” in an attempt to escape doesn’t change the ickiness of it. She objectively raped Robin which the show came as close to anyone as actually identifying as rape even though they never said the word. But once her victim was no longer in the picture the show largely ignored it. Long term consequences? What’s that?
Arthur raped, drugged, and imprisoned Guinevere for apparently years. He never paid a consequence for that and we were never even told if she was freed from that spell.
Gothel raped Wish Hook without apparent consequence.
But all of the above is in a context where …
Emma never faced any consequences for ripping out Violet’s heart, for sending Regina off to die, for allowing her family to think they’d failed her.
Snow and David never faced any consequences for kidnapping and assaulting a baby.
Regina is walking free after countless murders.
Rumple is walking free after even more countless murders than Regina.
Hook is walking free after centuries of looting and pillaging which also involves… murdering. He also didn’t face any consequences for murdering Merlin. And Emma faced none for covering up for his murder.
The only main cast members who don’t belong in prison as far as I can tell are Belle and Henry.
This is not a show where anyone faces consequences. Stop demanding that women face them in particular. Realize this is not a show where punishment and revenge are considered good things especially after the character has changed their behavior.
The writers have never and will never deal with sexual assault in a respectful or sane manner.