Rant of the day: I can’t FUCKING BELIEVE that there is a FUCKING ANTI on the hetalia fandom making a WHOLE FUCKING BLOG to list “bad blogs”
in absolute NO CIRCUNSTANCE this is a motive to go there and harass them in ANY WAY.
If you harass someone, no matter the reason, you are a terrible human being and I’m disgusted by you.
*very deep and tired sigh*
I am TIRED.
SO FUCKING TIRED of dealing with antis bullshit on the Voltron fandom. I am tired of seeing they harass people, I am tired of seing their shit on the tags I like, but, mostly:
I AM TIRED OF SEEING THEIR INCORRECT AND FAILED LOGIC ALL OVER THE PLACE.
They keep claiming over and over again that incest ships (even self-cest), pedophilia ships and abusive/toxic ships means that whoever ship those are inherently endorsing those things in real life and that those shippers are inherently bad people. They say “fiction afects reality” and think that they are the paladins of truth and justice and protectors of children/minors.
*very deep and annoyed sigh*
First of all, bitch, YES, MOTHERFUCKER, WE KNOW THAT FICTION AFFECT REALITY. That is why people demand representation in media and that is why people demand better media.
FICTION DOESN’T AFFECT REALITY IN A “MONKEY SEE, MONKEY DO” WAY!!!!!!!
They keep claiming “oh, children will see incest/pedophilia/abuse/rape in fandom and they will think that it is ok in real life”
I don’t know how these naive people were raised, but most MOST PARENTS THAT I KNOW, MOST PARENTS OF OTHER SHIPPERS HAD ALREADY TAUGHT THEM THAT THOSE ARE WRONG BEFORE WE GET INTO THE INTERNET.
If YOUR PARENTS failed to educate you that incest/pedophilia/abuse/rape is wrong, that is, honestly, YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM!
This is the internet and I ain’t your mama. I’m not here to shelter people against all and every heavy content.
I’m on the internet and on fandom since I was 11/12 (I don’t remember when).
I basically raised myself in fandom and I learned about sex and sexuality in fandom firstly.
And even there I WASN’T STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK THAT INCEST/PEDOPHILIA/ABUSE WAS COOL AND OK IN REAL LIFE!
My first mlm ship was between a 15 yo and a 30 yo. I shipped it, I liked it AND I, WITH 12/13 YEARS OLD KNEW, WITHOUT A SHITTY ANTI TELLING ME THAT, THAT THAT WASN’T OK IN REAL LIFE!
Antis treat people, especially minors, as if they were stupid.
They treat fiction as if it was a case of “monkey see, monkey do” when that is hardly the case.
People who were socialized correctly WILL NOT EVER THINK THAT THAT IS OK IN REAL LIFE!
Antis treat people as if it was sinful and heinous to like heavy or more problematic stuff/ships.
PSYCHOLOGISTS ALL OVER THE GLOBE HAD ALREADY PROVEN THAT IT IS PART OF THE HUMAN NATURE TO BE ATTRACTED TO EDGE THEMES!
Meaning that it is ok to like reading/seeing about those kind of things. IT IS NORMAL! (also, before someone asks: yes, it is also ok not to like it. Both are part of the human nature, and one is not more right or wrong than the other. They are just part of humanity. They just are. Period).
IF ALL THE PROFESSIONALS SAYS THAT IT IS OK, WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR SORRY ASS KNOW MORE ABOUT THE SUBJECT THAN THEY DO?
YOU ARE NOT GOD, MOTHERFUCKER!
Of course, that there is a huge “but” on that.
It is ok to like those kind of stuff, BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO TAG THAT CORRECTLY. PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT ALL THE WARNINGS SO PEOPLE CAN EITHER EXPLORE THEIR HEAVY SUBJECT OF INTEREST OR THEY CAN AVOID/BLACKLIST IT.
As I said, I’m in fandom since I was 11/12.
I’ve seen/read a lot of shit during those 14/13 years that I’m in this internet life.
A lot of shit.
A LOT OF SHIT.
A LOT OF SHIT!
And every single fucking time I seen/read some shit, I WAS THE ONE WHO ACTIVELLY CLICKED ON IT.I CHOOSE TO DO THAT.
I’ll never forget about the time when I was starting on the hetalia fandom and I used to read UsUk stuff (yeah, a long time ago, in a galaxy far away…) that I read some heavy fanfics from the same author, about rape, torture and brainwashing (until this day, I’ll never forget that author’s name and I’ll pronounce it just like Timmy Turner’s dad (from Fairy Godparents) pronounce “Dinkleberg”).
That stuff REALLY messed up with my head for a few weeks.
The author PUT ALL THE WARNINGS.
I had ALREADY read some of their stuff (and I was grossed out about it)
AND I STILL CHOSE TO CLICK ON IT!
You see, that is how the internet works: ONE CHOOSES TO SEE OR NOT!
SO THERE IS NO REASON TO TRY TO POLICE PEOPLE WHO DOES THAT! IT IS NOT WRONG AND PEOPLE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT!!! (with proper tags and proper warnings, of course)
One last fallacy that the antis LOVE to say is that “adults can use pedo/abuse/incest shipt to groom young children and abuse them uwu”
DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT CSA STARTED TO HAPPEN ONLY AFTER THE TELEVISION AND THE INTERNET WAS INVENTED?
DON’T BE STUPID, STUPID!
Predators had existed since the beginning of humanity. In Rome, for example, there were parties where the guests were offered little children (5 to 12 yo) FOR THEM TO RAPE.
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY GOING TO BLAME THAT ON THE INTERNET?
Again: if antis parents failed to show them that incest/pedophilia/abuse/rape is wrong, it is hardly my or anyone in the internet job to teach that to antis.
Normal minors, children that already know (because their mamas raised no fools) that incest/pedophilia/abuse/rape is wrong, will see problematic content and either avoid it (and learn how to manage their own internet experience) or will explore it (again: there is nothing wrong in liking heavy content, and people start developing their sexuality and their interests during puberty, between 11 to 19 yo. And NO, SEEING/READING ABOUT PEDOPHILIC SHIPS WON’T MAKE PEOPLE PEDOPHILES. THIS IS NOT “MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO”!!!! THAT JUST MEANS THAT THOSE PEOPLE WILL LIKE THAT KIND OF CONTENT)
Normal people (most of the people except antis) don’t need antis to tell them what is right and what is wrong.
Normal minors WON’T BE GROOMED WITH PEDO/ABUSE/INCEST CONTENT!!!!
You know with what kind of media the predators groom children?
With SFW work!!!!
With PG works!!!!!
WITH STUFF THAT ARE CUTESY AND SWEET AND NOT PROBLEMATIC AT ALL!
For fucks sake: Predators WANT CHILDREN/MINORS TO THINK THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS! THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SHOW THEM PEDO/ABUSE/INCEST STUFF!!!!
Of course, to all rule there is a counter example.
Yes, I’ve already read about cases of people who were in fact groomed and that their abuser used pedo/abuse/incest ships to try to justify it.
Yes, I’ve already read about “the lolita effect” in Japan about predators using that kind of ships to justify their actions.
1) That is not the rule (Japan has a little more problems with this part, but it is not my place, as a westerner, to lecture them without more information on the topic and on their culture)
2) That is bad usage of media and it could happen with ANY MEDIA.
Again, another anedoct of my life: I’ve met a girl a few years ago (I was 18 and she was 19) who had been groomed when she was 12 with pokemon.
ARE ANTIS GOING TO BLAME POKEMON FOR SHE BEING GROOMED? ARE THEY?
I don’t think so.
(She was all right, by the way. She told her mom who called the cops. I think they arrested the guy. Yikes. At least she got more careful on the internet after that).
ANY MEDIA CAN BE USED TO GROOM CHILDREN/MINORS IN ANY WAY!!!! PROBLEMATIC SHIPS BEING USED FOR THIS IS THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE!
Do I like pedo ships? Hell No!
Do I like incest ships? Hell No!
DO I like rape ship? …well, I had to be guilty of something, I guess…
Do I like abuse ships? Hell No!
BUT THAT DOESN’T MAKE ME HAVE THE RIGHT TO CENSOR OTHER PEOPLE FOR FUCK’S SAKE!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *screaming to the void with anger*
If the fandom is so worried about predators and all, what can we effectively do?
I’m glad you asked!
We have to talk about our inner problems (like some fetization of mlm ships that fandons in general still have) AND we have to discuss these subjects between ourselve.
Again, anedocte of my life: I was 15 and I still shipped that 15/30 yo ship (the same ship). I met online other people who shipped it, including a new shipper, younger than us (ages between 16 to 12, the 12 was the new shipper). We talked with the new shipper about how we loved our ship, of course, but how that would be gross in real life. The new shipper was a little dazzled with the fantasie of an older man liking them (just like I had been when I was 12/13) like it happened on the ship. So we the older shippers talked with them about how that doens’t happen in real life like that and how if an older man showed interests on her that would be really messed up. She got a little annoyed with us in the beginning (since she already knew that), but in the end she knew a little bit more about how to spot a predator (since we were talking about what we knew on the subject).
That is just one example of my life, but I think many other people out in the internet have other nice examples.
That is, in my opinion, the most powerful weapon against abuse and predators: information and support. Instead of censoring a “bad ship” and cocooning the new shipper in a bubble of ignorance, we talked about it with her and she learn something important for her life. That is what anyone can do.
2) REPORT REAL RAPIST/PEDOPHILES
If you can, do it.
If you can call the cops, even better.
That is how we can help.
That is what antis don’t do.
Recently on the Voltron fandom, someone showed screenshots of an anti discord chat where it was posted a link to a rapist blog on tumblr with the caption “PLEASE REPORT THIS FUCKER”.
The antis mocked that.
They did nothing.
Then, when the conversation leaked, they acused the person that sent the link of exposing them to troubling content (as if the person had sent the link just to rile them up and not to get help reporting the motherfucker).
aNTIS aRE uSELESS. i rEST mY cASE
3) DONATE TO INSTITUTIONS THAT HELP CSA VICTIMS/SURVIVORS
If you have the money, of course.
Since I am broke 99% of the time, I can only reblog stuff and pray for the best, but if you have some money and you want to help that is a good oportunity.
There are also other ways to the fandom to help too!
A good example on the Voltron fandom was the Sheith Zine, that donated all the profits to one of those institutions (I can’t remember which now)
TL,DR: FICTION DOESN’T AFFECT REALITY IN A “MONKEY SEE, MONKEY DO” WAY, PEOPLE WHO WERE SOCIALIZED CORRECTLY WILL NEVER THINK THAT THOSE KIND OF SHIPS ARE OK IN REAL LIFE, THERE IS NO REASON TO POLICE WHAT PEOPLE SHIP BECAUSE IT IS ALL FINE (IF THEY USE THE PROPER TAGS AND WARNINGS, OF COURSE), ANY MEDIA (ESPECIALLY NON-PROBLEMATIC) CAN BE USED TO GROOM CHILDREN/MINORS (PEDO SHIPS BEING USED TO THAT IS THE EXCEPTION), ANTIS ARE A DISGRACE WHO DO NOTHING EFFECTIVE TO HELP PEOPLE AND THERE ARE WAYS TO HELP PEOPLE AGAINST ABUSE THAT ARE __NOT__ CENSORING SHIPS
AND NO, DEBORAH, I’M NOT GOING TO PUT THIS ALL UNDER A “READ MORE” THIS TIME AND I’M NOT GOING TO STOP SCREAMING
Last note: if you want to talk about it, I’m really more civil than this in one-one conversations. As long as you keep the respect (and sarcasm is still considered a disrespect in this blog), I’ll keep the respect and won’t scream (maybe put stuff in bold for emphasis, but that is it)